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"Ming left frustrated and irritated"
I know how feels. I had a surgery with Jo Swinson as wellam
The Ming Dynasty is over. Must be the shortest on record!!
Ming left frustrated and irritated------------------------------------
Hye Dudes
Ming is standing in what seems a very old fashion room, using inneficient incandescent light bulbs and a coal burning fire.
Velly smart enviroment dude Ming !!!
GC
Take it from me (and I'm old) all men lose their ability to think 'outside the box' and embrace new ideas, from about the age of twenty!!
Youth should be given far more power than they have!!
The youth of today are FRUSTRATED by the system. It treats them as imbecile infants.
Teenagers brains function at adout twice the speed of adult brains.... The only things teenagers lack are experience and knowledge yet society denies them the ability to learn.
Mustn't do that you might hurt yourself!!Fast cars? Too dangerous! Sex(when your hormones are raging?) Too dangerous and she might get pregnant!Drugs? Bad for you!! (Yet look at DAD on V1agr@ or the Gov of California or any professional athlete)
LET YOUTH GET AT THE HELM IF YOU WANT PROGRESS and INNOVATION(sure and there'll be some risk - that's why 104 boys are born to every 100 girls)
Terrible stuff from the Lib Dems. They've capitulated since the days of Kennedy when, despite his unceremonious ousting, the party was making gains and Kennedy was over the worst of his affliction. I won't make the mistake of voting for this rabble of opportunists and freaks again.
That's because they are imbeciles. Thinking only with thier c*cks and f*annies. Stuff that, imagine letting the youth in charge, Jesus, what a mess we'd be in.
I feel sorry for him.
A very respectable man - who was genuinely honest and concerned for his constituents and the country.
He represented his country in both sport and politics and while eveyone else was obsessed with spin and glamour he went for being himself.
More than you can say for most other politicians.
Sad that that was punished.
I very much doubt changing the leade rof the Lib dems will make any difference - their policies will still only appeal to middle class greeny lefties and so they'll never be anything more an ineffective third party.
#5years ago the age of being classed an adult was 25, later reduced to 21.There was good reason for this. The brain does not settle down until the early to mid twenties (girls usually eariler than boys) The young brain does work fast but has little experience to go with that speed. Just as young drivers cause more accidents and deaths so would teenage politicians cause untold problems.
Great! Now, go home and prepare for government [if you are inside reading this, stop. Put on your coat, go outside, then, come back in]
Leader of the Liberal Democrats is the best job in British politics: you can adopt whatever policies you like knowing full well that you will never be in power to have to implement them.
#5 scotsdoc..what a ridiculous contribution to a plausable discussion. I have been to Nanaimo on Vancouver Island, the capital of Canada's strip malls. My friends refer to the place as a point to pass through on their way to someplace else. If the residents bearthe same mentality as your post indicates you to hold then I can understand their descriptive theory.
You seem to have a fair number of b*st*rds in your party, Ming. But when you resigned did you not say that you would be making no further statements to the press? And above that there is no point in discussing hypothetical situations about the cabinet post you might like - but quite fancy foreign affairs or defence!
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I tend to agree with what you say. However they will presumably fare better in certain English seats as the third party,than they will in Scotland or Wales where the SNP and Plaid Cymru already occupy at least that role if not government.
Ming was neither a particularly good leader ,or a particularly bad leader.
He just belonged to a party which tries to be all things to all men,and succeeded in being none to any.They are at best a major party in certain seats and an also ran in the majority.I think they are a party which will disappear eventually in Scotland as did the Tories.The fight in Scotland is now polarised into SNP v Unionist (and Labour are the only one left in any significant numbers) .You can argue against facts (and many do of course) but you cannot defeat them. Most Liberals know its going nowhere in Scotland.
Lib Dems fortunes locally will not improve until they also stab Nichol Stephen and Jenny Dawe in the back
This is disgraceful: why is there no place in modern politics of an old school type of leader in the Douglas-Home/MacMillan mode who's maybe not as media friendly as someone like the appropriately named Clegg but is an intellectual capable of formulating policy without resort to spin and subterfuge. The demise of Ming is a sad commentary on the current level of debate in British politics!
Ming was a fool to want the job.At his age he should have wanted to put his feet up not go on working.He took the job with a five year possibility of an election in the first place.Retire now Ming,you might just like it.I retired at 60 and have never looked back.
15, Linda.
I tend to both agree and disagree with you! I think the fibdems fortunes will not improve until they stop lying to the people.
They lied about the abolition of student fees (I still have £13,000 worth of debt after my degree) despite them 'abolishing' student loans.
They are the master of the wee white lie, taking credit for everything Labour did well in administration (like free personal care for the elderly) whilst washing their hands of anything they considered to be unpopular.
Finally, they sh*t all over Charlie boy - one of their most talented by a country mile. He was elected leader when they all knew he had a drink problem(who didn't?) but as soon as the going got tough, the lib dems got going - which, actually is exactly what Ming has just done too!
Show me a party leader who isn't attacked 'personally' - WEE jack, FAT eck etc. etc.Ming couldn't hack it. Simple as....as the young folks are fond of saying!
15I agree with you in that I see both of them as being as much of a liability as an asset to the Liberal Cause.Where we would possibly disagree is that the Liberals are capable of going anywhere in Scotland.The central belt is where most Scots live,and that is now a straight SNP v Labour fight,with no point in voting for anybody else really. Okay a single Tory seat and a handful of Lib Dems in Scotland is possible,but is there any point ?We are a country with only 59 or so seats now in a parliament containing somewhere around 529 English members.Our relevance is even lower now than it was in the past,and most of our MPs are only interested in securing their own preservation to our cost if necessary.I'm afraid that like it or loathe it,Scotland's future lies in uniting under a banner of independence.We can ignore this as we have done,but we will never escape the inevitability of it.
Ming we loved you all the way through but over 65 like everyone else we were put out to grass.Dont kill yourselve at your age trying to please a lot of backstabbers,take your money and run and spend it having a long and happy retirement and do the things that you always wanted to do,GOD BLESS,You will go down in HISTORY.
They would have done better to offer some support to Kennedy with his drink problem. He is still head and shoulders above anyone else the Lib Dems have to offer. Instead, Campbell instigated Kennedy's political assassination for his own belated ambitions. Not surprisingly it has ended in disaster for the Lib Dems.
Maybe Ming's troubles started when he threw a wee house party for his parliamentary colleagues and they noted the nature of his home decor?
I am only speculating, but perhaps some of them clocked his cloth-morris-dancer styled light shade pictured above and decided he was not a new man of the 21st century?
Ayrhire Scot
...that's all very well, but could you or the genius tell me what to do with firefox? Every time I refresh or go to another Scotsman story I get pop ups.
Ad block is duff. Pop up blocker is duff. I use firefox because it's twice as fast as IR7.
HELP!
Ming must know how Caesar felt on the steps of the Senate when the traitors knifed him! I've no love for Libdems, but #13 is right is saying there must be a fair number of b*****ds in that party!
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I am referring your IT request to an expert (my big bro) in the absence of the resident Scotsman IT expert (AM2) will get back to you on this later on..... Now, stop going off topic :-)
22I think you make a very pertinent point here.Charles Kennedy was extremely popular,and I doubt that anybody really cared that he liked a wee dram!He still made more sense than the rest of the party.Im almost tempted to ask"Would we trust a highlander who did not drink"?We almost expect it north of Perth as far as I can see!The Lowlanders are hardly tee total either!Half of the Commons has a drink problem probably!Charlie dealt with his,and we have all been known to swim in Campbeltown Loch !
They should have supported him.Hes the only one they have who is/was electable as far as I can see.
26 Kirsty Wark quoted a Lid Dem MP on newsnight who said "Ming has been shafted by a shower of sh--s" - nasty way to go. At least Caesar was stabbed, not bludgeoned with Lid Dem poo.However, as Ming did the same to Charles K he can't be too bitter. They would have been better if they had stood by Charles K while he got treated - would have been honourable, consistent with their stated employment policies, and left them with a popular and more effective leader?
did you try Zone Alarm (checkpoint) I don't get any pop ups (except the odd futile attack from the Maltese Codger/AM2 under assumed noms de loon)
I noticed that in your article about Sir Ming quiting the Lib Dems because of all the "anti age stuff", your reporter wrote "Sir Menzies, 66". Nice one Scotsman!
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Can I suggest that you backdate first (or if that makes no difference possibly uninstall and reinstall whatever is causing grief before making a final decision. The pop up blocker may be switched off!(This ensures that you have a complete version of whatever it is),I presume Windows Updates are up to date of course.If it still behaves erratically the only answer is change it.
Firefox has been updated a few times since the original version Im sure. Check that your Firefox is the most recent version.
If this is a recent phenomenon a backdate of your registry and settings (maybe a few days only)often solves many problems and you dont even need to know what the problem was !I would backdate just to see what happens before tampering with anything,Possibly settings have been changed by an unknown programme or trojan etc. Whatvever it is a backdate is a reasonable move,and /or a reinstall of the software which is malfunctional if that is not successful.I am not an IT litterate person unfortunately but I hope this helps . I doubt that it will however.
Ayrshire Scot (29) - loved that first part of your comment! Also agree with your second. They've no credibility now - getting rid of Kennedy and the breaking of the Mark Oaten's rent boy story has put them on a par with the sleazy tories of the 90s.
Seems to me you are all missing the main point. This is a bad time for any Scotsman to have ambitions in any of the South of England based parties. Labour and Tories are as bad as the Liberals in this respect. Why do you think the media have turned on Brown?
34 Jennifer
was only a wee joke, sweetie, as I think you knew. If you didn't, I can only assume that you have the same lamp shade and were personally stung? Chuck out the chintz!
Alex Salmond will face the same after next week
He's resigned a position of powerlessness to get one of (relative) power - by joining Broon's government.Typical politician - no sympathy.
Thanks all for firefox help. Didnae work. Back to IE7.
Ming didn't make an impressive showing as leader and he's right to go. But let's not forget that Winston Churchill didn't become Prime Minister until he was 65, and he didn't do too badly, did he?
He'll be more gutted at all the freebies he'll miss oot on!!! At least Armed Services don't have to hurl him aboot in expensive hardware, like tanks and jets, that should save the country a few bob!
#37 Even though you are that little bridge lurker who pretends to be Duncan - your statement is probably correct - while probably not in the time scale mentioned.
It is the nature of the game - no doubt the time will come when the knives come out for AS.
In politics no one has friends just enemies you don't yet recognise as such.
Meths - have you tried STOPzilla? It gets a good write-up.
I tried to download this and got the message "An error occurred etc...." Computers are evil. Begone computers!
I hope Chris Huhne gets an absolute kicking in the leadership race - he doesn't deserve to poll one vote. I intensely dislike back stabbing, even if I don't like the one being stabbed. It shows a very poor moral compass.
the real problem with a man getting older is the necessity to properly and correctly think with the correct head. experience and maturity seem to be forgotten in this fast paced age and yet look what we get in return - especially from our politicians on both sides of the ocean.
Ming and in fact the entire lib dems are fools they will never get in power as they are more politically correct than the other two parties put together with their wishy washy PC policies.
How difficult can it be to make policies that the electorate actually want, I'll even give them a few pointers.
Renounce human rights act and create a UK bill of rights that protects the natives rights and not illegal immigrants as they should have no right to access state benefits of any kind whatsoever this includes legal aid.
Stop the open door immigration and even EU immigration and only allow 25000 people a year to emigrate to the UK and then only of they can live here without state housing or benefits. They should be assessed as to what skills they are bringing to the country and it should be clear these skills are needed.
Deport ALL foreign criminals regardless of where they have come from, they must realise we have a right to return them to their point of departure on route to the UK.
Allow no-one to claim asylum in the UK if they have travel through other countries to get here, if they have it proves they are economic migrants. Again no state benefits in any form.
Kill the PC culture and all associated policies and quangos and sack those jobsworths dogooders with no pensions or extra pay.
All government pensions must only pay the same level of income as privately run ones and must be relative to your annual income.
Scrap all government IT projects, sack all army procurement officers, sack all NHS managers and consultants who dont treat patients.
Make all government ministers accountable for their mistakes and if they act incompetently or irresponsibly they should be sacked immediately.
Put T Blair in prison for lying to an entire nation about going to war on false evidence.
Abolish MP expenses and create a special police body to scrutinise and investigate all MPs and councils full time. This includes
I am having a smoke (nice smoking excemption eh) standing at the heavily subsidised house of commons bar with some alarm that drinking between seven and seventeen large glasses of wine a week puts me in the “hazardous” range, but I am able to console myself with the thought that only a small increase in my consumption will lift me out of it.
Taken from the times - David Terry
Poor Ming. I'm no supporter of the lib dumbs but I will offer him my comiserations. He didn't want to be leader in the first place as he himself described himself as "too old" for the job.
He was a talented athlete, represented the UK and Scotland in the Commonwealth games. He shall be remember for that at least.
Good luck Ming on whatever endevour you take on from this day forth.
Good job that Churchill didn't consider himself "too old for the job" in 1940.
55 Or too pished
The countrys all around the world are all screwed anyway, so what diffrence is it how old they are nothing good has come with the people already running the countrys.
#5Your a moron.#7Spot on.
There goes a man with dignity,courtesy and good old honesty. Politics will be poorer without him at the helm.
The Liberals as 'the nasty party'-who'd have thunk it!
They said Ming was too old. Perhaps he was too much of a Gentleman for to-days politics. He did not deride his opponents with insults, and snide comments across the floor, or go in for ridicule when he disagreed with his opponents, but used quiet diplomacy. This is something more of our politicians should ascribe to, after all they are elected to represent us! Not to reduce the Chambers, (whether Scottish or English) to the usual rabble of bad mannered loud mouthed bumkins, who's prime object appears to be poor comedy, and point scoreing! Ming, Enjoy retirement, and on a wet winters afternoon, for entertainment, may I suggest listening to to-day in Parliment. Its a real comedy. (If it was not showing just how low Politics have become)
I think it was Montgomery that said 'war is dirty politics is filthy'. Certainly the case in this sick old world. The ageism in this place Oz is shocking but somehow it doesn't apply to our little Johnny one note. Economy stupid. I wonder how money tastes when there is no food to buy due to the inability of the poor earth to produce it after the pillaging we have done especially down under which is becoming more of an open cut mine every day.
I too am frustrated and irritated,but not about Ming,just this paper publishing loads of tosh and speculation about the unimportant Liberals.There is a major problem in the farming industry which is being ignored.Shout it long and hard,Westminster is playing silly buggers.This is far more serious than any poxy leadership contest for the past their sell by date party.Get the farmers plight on the front page and let people see who is doing,or not doing,what for Scotland.
Legal stabbing in the back is an integral element of the lying, corrupt political system off the UK. We have been fooled for centuries into believing, the Establishments control off our lives "is democracy" and freedom.We even send our young military at the risk off ending their young lives to other peoples countries too force them, to accept and adop our shameful type of sham democracy.And, strangely enough, they deny our Scottish nation the same right for its people decide what may be good or bad for them.
Nice description Tom.Society has been fed utter brain destroying rubbish via TV for far too long,and that includes the BBC news.
