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1

Stockbridge,

26/11/2007 01:00:03

Without a blockade they would have been a more egalitarian state than the US by now.

2

Al Sharpton Jr,

NY 26/11/2007 04:37:57

Canada, South American, Europe, the rest of the world trades with Cuba. I guess you are one of those idiots that blames everything on the USA because you won't get out of your chair and do anything for yourself.

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Al Sharpton Jr,

NY 26/11/2007 04:38:38

Stockbride :)

4

The Universal Curmudgeon,

Vancouver, BC, Canada 26/11/2007 05:22:44

"Canada, South American, Europe, the rest of the world trades with Cuba. I guess you are one of those idiots that blames everything on the USA because you won't get out of your chair and do anything for yourself."

Al, in case you haven't noticed it, the government of the United States of America prosecutes anyone from Canada, South America, Europe, or the rest of the world that they catch trading with Cuba because those persons are in breach of the laws of the United States of America - regardless of whether that trade is 100% legal in the countries that are conducting it.

Oh yes, and (if you have enough money to rent yourself a Representative or Senator) you can trade with Cuba if you are an American - even if what you are trading is subsidized by the government of the United States of America. (Oh, that's right, I forgot, the government of the United States of America doesn't "subsidize" anything - it only provides "price support payments".

5

Guga II,

Rockall 26/11/2007 08:10:25

#4 Well said.

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mike - across the pond,

stockbridge... the "egalitarian" 26/11/2007 16:35:22

do you even know what the words you use MEAN?

did your keyboard catch on fire when you typed that word?

please site me a single socialist state on the planet that is ANYTHING resembling an "egalitarian" state? North Korea?... China??....

one will do.... just one...

heck even Cuba's much ballyhooed (by michael moore anyway) health care system is not "egalitarian"...

there is a "party" hospital for the members of the party (or distinguished foreign guests).... which are comparable to anything we see in the west... then there are the hospitals for the rest of the population... which struggle to provide health care comparable to what you might find at the poorest of 3rd world clinics...

which by definition runs contrary to the term "egalitarian".... doesnt it?

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mike - across the pond,

stockbridge... the "diplomat" 26/11/2007 17:45:47

oh and by the way....

its not a "blockade".... its an economic embargo...

and... like all purely "diplomatic" solutions to these kinds of problems... it hasnt worked... has it?

so your point is?

8

Conan,

Moffat 26/11/2007 21:32:17

Give it up Mike - some of these posting here have a hatred of the US and Americans that defies all logic.

9

Sponge,

26/11/2007 22:06:40

7. mike - across the pond

"please site me"

OK - where would you like to be sited?

Do you even know the meaning of "site"?

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Stockbridge,

26/11/2007 23:40:09

mike - across the pond

From North Korea, China, and the US: whose nationals can travel by plane or ship to Cuba, and then travel home again in the same craft?

Again from these nations: whose legislation is so dictatorial, other nations need to counterlegislate?

Here's a wee clue...

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1996/Uksi_19963171_en_1.htm

What happens when ruled, Libya's inclusion therein was underpinned by a miscarriage, prompted by payments from one of the aforementioned nations.

Which nation made the payments?

11

57Nomad,

california 27/11/2007 11:49:46

#1 Stockbridge / 1:00am 26 Nov 2007

"Without a blockade they would have been a more egalitarian state than the US by now."

Really? This is something you know? At one time Cuba was the most prosperous of the Caribbean countries. Not anymore and the reason has nothing to do with the American economic boycott. No communist nation will ever flourish. The Cuban people are our brothers and sisters. They are enslaved by a heartless and soulless system and by the brutes who run it.

How many people do you see setting sail from Miami in iffy watercraft to try to sneak into Cuba? Zero, that's how many. Castro is Batista with a better secret police. One more big mouth Latin American dictator. Cuba's problems stem from one source, F. Castro.

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mike - across the pond,

sponge.... 27/11/2007 15:57:55

do you know what the word sophomoric means?

let me use it in a sentence for you....

it is a sophomoric tactic to intentionally miss the point of a request due to a percieved spelling error...

and yes...
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/site

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mike - across the pond,

stockbridge... the "egalitarian" 27/11/2007 16:12:26

ok here you go....

from the US, Cuba, North Korea (and to a lesser extent) China whose citizens WOULD travel back and forth on the same ship if they could swing it...

examples

US to Cuba (north Korea, china, mexico, you name it)... the average person would go... look around get back on the same ship... and go back to "the real world"...

Cuba (or any of your "egalitarian utopias") to US... the average person would go... look around... look around some more... count the cars in the garages look at the hospitals available to he "average person".... quickly try to find a job... miss the boat... and hope to god the INS lets you stay....

point made?

the problem IS... the "average" person in the UK... US or whereever rarely if ever has a reason to venture more than a few hundred miles from their safe secure homes.... they just MISTAKENLY assume that the rest of the world has it as good as they do... and assume that there is some vast right-wing conspiracy at work to depose rightful benevolent dictators like Saddam Hussein... Kim Jong-Il.... Fidel Castro.... Pol Pot....


 

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