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Beer cheaper than water drives surge in supermarket drink sales



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Published Date: 12 February 2008
SUPERMARKETS and corner shops now account for almost a third of all alcohol sold in Scotland, compared with only a fifth 25 years ago, according to the beer industry. Forty-one per cent of Britain's beer is now bought in shops and supermarkets, compared to 33 per cent in 2000 and 30 per cent in 1986.
The shift away from bars has been driven by loss-leading supermarket prices – which have left beer cheaper than water – and the smoking ban, which has led to more consumers drinking at home.

Asda recently slashed the price of its own value-brand
beer to just 22p for a 440ml can following similar moves from Tesco and Sainsbury's. It puts the price of beer at 50p a litre (around 28p a pint). Own-brand water costs between 56p and 92p a litre, depending on the store, while own-brand cola costs between 56p to 65p a litre.

The difference between "on-trade" pub and "off-trade" shop-shelf prices is now so wide that it would be cheaper for many pub owners to buy their alcohol in supermarkets than from their own suppliers.

TNS World Panel, a market research firm, said Scots spent £138.8 million on alcohol from supermarkets and off-licences in the run-up to Christmas and New Year last year.

Supermarkets often sell beer and wine cheaply in order to attract lucrative grocery shoppers, but village shops and convenience stores rely on the income from alcohol sales for their survival. According to the Association of Convenience Stores, beer, wine and spirits account for 14 per cent of smaller shops' profits and 18 per cent of their sales.

In 2005, off-sales licences in Scotland accounted for more than a third of the 17,059 liquor licences in Scotland. Of those, smaller shops accounted for 44 per cent, supermarkets 9 per cent and garages 2 per cent. In 2004, off-licence alcohol sales were broken down as 28 per cent beer, 44 per cent wine (including fortified wine), 22 per cent spirits, 3 per cent cider, and 3 per cent alcopops. Lager dominates the UK beer off-sales market, with Stella Artois, Carling and Foster's the top three brands.

The trend worries alcohol campaigners because more than half of under-age drinkers get their alcohol from shops and supermarkets. Half of all vodka drinkers in Britain are aged under 35, and Scottish off-trade sales of vodka are rising at a rate of about 6 per cent a year.

Lager dominates the take-home market, with a 74 per cent share (up 1 per cent) of all beer and cider sold in 2005.





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  • Last Updated: 11 February 2008 9:52 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Alcohol & binge drinking
 
1

Sanny,

Portugal 12/02/2008 01:42:57
Booze in Iberia is but a fraction of the price it is in the UK. The locals drink brandy and wine on most days. Go on any building site and there will be several beer bottles around. Children are allowed to drink wine with meals. So, why is it that you rarely see any local get fall down drunk?

Yet go to the tourist areas and see the British holidaymakers! They drink themselves unconscious on a nightly basis. Their behaviour is disgusting and outrageous making me ashamed to admit my own nationality.

This has nothing to do with the cost of booze it is a cultural thing. It is the culture we have to change. My Portuguese friends would die of embarrassment if they got themselves into the state where they were unable to control themselves.

Our youngsters seem to think there is something macho or adult about getting smashed. We have to ask ourselves why this is so and change they way our young society thinks. This is where the answers lie not in ever increasing taxes.
2

Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 12/02/2008 04:06:14
Just goes to show how ridiculously over priced the water is.....
3

Royster,

12/02/2008 05:08:48
#1. I think it's a northern European thing. The Brits are high up in the league of alcohol abuse but the Russians, Finns and Poles top the league. The Russians are probably the worst. I visited Norway a while ago and things are pretty bad there inspite of the fact that alcohol is taxed to death.
4

donald,

glasgow 12/02/2008 07:24:30
"Yet go to the tourist areas and see the British holidaymakers! They drink themselves unconscious on a nightly basis. Their behaviour is disgusting and outrageous making me ashamed to admit my own nationality."

Yes. I am ashamed to be classified as British too.
5

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 12/02/2008 07:56:30
No. 4 Donald:- Whether you classify yourself as British, or as you would prefer Scottish doesn't really matter. This is a problem that is affecting Scotland just as much as the rest of Britain. Making nationalistic comments is not going to help.
6

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12/02/2008 08:00:34
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7

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 12/02/2008 11:25:03
This is just sensationalism. The only beer that is cheaper than bottled water is the weak, tasteless economy stuff. REAL beer is a lot more expensive than bottled water.

Anyway, you must be a right idiot to buy bottled water. Scotland has perfectly good tap water.

Now the nazis have won the smoking war, they are now setting about drinking. Well done all of you who didn't stand up for your rights the first time round.
8

David MacVicar,

web 12/02/2008 12:30:53
Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

"Scotland has perfectly good tap water."

Dont worry, Scottish Water and SEPA are doing their best to change that + plenty of raw sewage into our waters for free!!
9

lachlan,

12/02/2008 13:27:30
#1 i agree.it is our strange attitude to alchol that is the problem.
10

Eve,

Scotland 12/02/2008 14:58:34
"The shift away from bars has been driven by loss-leading supermarket prices – which have left beer cheaper than water – and the smoking ban, which has led to more consumers drinking at home."

The price difference YES, That is most certainly the most variable factor which turn people in to their house away from the pubs.

Also the cleanliness and the atmosphere of the pub are another important factor. I've been in some pubs which are pure manky and ones that look like ***** holes. These are possible the ones that have closed down.

Before the smoking ban it was OK for pub to be dirty because of all the passive smoking. Socalising shouldn't just be for the smokers and with the ban this has been achieved.

The smoking ban NO
Common you only have to near a pub after a Cretan time to see that there are folk out side smoking, most seem quite happy. AND besides the majority of Scots don't smoke!!!
11

Eve,

Scotland and Scottish by Nationality 12/02/2008 15:01:50
#4 donald: Aye me to!

It's NOT just this subject area, it's in them all!!!
12

Eve,

Scotland 12/02/2008 15:12:59
#5 Nell: Scottish Drunks act diffrently to English drunks in my experences. Am I the only one who has noticed. I'm NOT just saying that!!! I've notice diffrences between many nationailty and background in many diffrent areas of life. Alcohol consumption is just one of them and how the people act when intoxicated or drunk.

P.S. Are you sure these people you're talking about NO on something a wee bit harder than alcohol so to speak!!!

I've been drunk with English folk and they do a lot of weird thing that I wouldn't even dream of doing no matter how drunk I got. I prefer sobber Engish people to their drunken counter parts.

It just NOT in my personailty despite the fact my temproment is reasonbly similair to the Glaswegein.
13

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 12/02/2008 15:15:52
When drinking beer I prefer Guinness but could anyone tell me what that metal or plastic thing in the can is for?

Trying to figure out its function has driven me to drink.
14

grafiger,

12/02/2008 15:16:18
I agree with most of the above, except Eve, whom I choose to ignore for obvious reasons.
However, I have absolutely no doubt that the surge in beer/alcohol sales is primarily due to the ridiculous and unnecessary smoking ban which has neither improved health nor decreased the sale of tobacco.
15

Eve,

Scotland 12/02/2008 15:19:32
#7 Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head: And how many time do you leave the house with a tap which conceted to water mains in your bag!!!

Thouse of us who are sencible and try to follow a healthy life style. Buy a botel of water ever so often drink the water in it (NOT much point NOT) and then fill the bottel up again, so we have water with us when we are out and about.

The bottel is then chucked out (put in a plasitic recycle bin) after a few weeks of use and the process can be repeated.
16

Eve,

Scotland 12/02/2008 15:34:31
#14 grafiger:

Whats wrong with comment 10. I'm right MOST SCOTS DON'T SMOKE, it's a fact!!!!

It is unfair to single me out on my own as being wroung. I have a good mind to report you for being so close minded to, single out one person in that manner!!!!

I KNOW THE DANGEROUS OF SMOKING A FEW OF MY LOVED ONES HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF THAT OFAL HABIT!!!!!

P.S. Open yer eyes and mind!!!! Smoking ban has NOT lead to closers of pubs or Bingo halls. Cheap supermarket drinks and the enviroment (hygeine, cleanlyness) are the factors that have lead pubs to lose buissness or closers). In bingo halls it's the online (there is at least 5 of them advertised on the telly)

IT's TECHNOLOGY AND SUPERMARKETS THAT ARE TO BLAME!!!!

P.S. I was in a pub yeasterday for about a couple of drinks and the place was near to full than empty and that was on a Monday night.

The smoking ban was one of the best things that ever happen!!!!

17

Eve,

Scotland 12/02/2008 15:45:53
#13 TimW1234,: I belive it is there to give the effect of draft Guinness (i.e. the head size) when you pour the cans contents in to a glass.

NOT that I drink the stuff myself BUT I've worked behind a bar before and beers tend to come out the pipes diffrently from cans/ bottels.

If this makes no sence you could google them, they'll have a web site.
18

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 12/02/2008 16:00:02
Wow Eve!

You must be bored or something...

For a start, Scotland does not have a drink problem. Anyone who thinks it does needs to wake up and look around them rather than relying on propaganda for their information.

Secondly, the demise of the pub trade IS down to the smoking ban and to NO OTHER FACTOR. Supermarkets were selling drink cheaply (as they should) prior to the nazi state kicking in. Clearly I need to elaborate so the reason why this is so is because smokers would rather not stand out in the cold---particularly in winter---so they buy drink from supermarkets and take it hope to drink, where they are beyond the reach of the brain-dead smoking ban.

It is not only the smokers. They invite many of their non-smoking mates to their houses as well. Believe it or not, the vast majority of non-smokers really couldn't care less about whether anyone else smokes. Not everyone is blinkered and moans about everything as you do.

The smoking ban most certainly NOT the best thing that ever happened. It was a monumentally stupid idea that was carried forward on a tide of mis-information and downright lies. The majority DO NOT want it. It only serves to set people against each other. If pubs and bars were destined to become non-smoking places then it would have happened gradually and would have been driven by market forces. The fact that the majority of bars permitted smoking in one way or another before the mind-numbingly stupid rules took over is testament in itself that the ban was NOT wanted.
19

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 12/02/2008 16:03:59
Tim and Eve,

Do you not know a widget when you see one?

The plastic thing is full of CO2 (and probably other chemicals too) under pressure with respect to that inside the can when it is closed. The widget has weak points which will hold against the pressure differential when the can is closed.

When the can is opened, the pressure inside it drops. This causes the weak points in the widget to rupture and release the contents into the beer---thereby giving it it's head/sparkle or whatever.
20

Paul R,

12/02/2008 16:51:29
Beer is not cheaper than water - water is "free" from the tap! Bottled water is a con.
21

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 12/02/2008 16:57:40
19 Alternative Fuel Head

How in the heck am I supposed to see this so-called "widget" when it is encased in the can?

Perhaps you Scots have more time than do I to pry open these cans.

I am involved in solving world crises and learning to macrame. So there!

22

Eve,

Scotland 12/02/2008 17:11:40
#18 Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head: Your putting words on my mouth I never said that no one had a drink problem in Scotland.

IT'S NOT DOWN TO THE SMOKING BAN!!! The smoking ban is a good thing, it mean that you can walk in to clean pub have a few drinks and NOT inhale other peoples poisonous smoke (which have said before, makes me want to puke)and leave with hair that doesn't smell of stale smoke. Many of us non-smoker are very apersent of this.

IT'S DOWN TO TECHNOLOGY AND SUPERMARKETS!!!!
supermarkets under cut as the do with everything else they sell, rip of the supplier and give us cheap drinks.

Common what are you doing Right now bet you've been on this computer most of the day and you do this sort of things just about every day!!!

Thanks to the Internet people don't always feel the need to go out cause you can socialise through the Internet. I must admit going out still appals too me more. Though I must point out to you that there was a story a few years ago that mention that a lot of people where creating their own varchal world where they went to socialize instead of going out. Apparently it's very big in Japan BUT it's moving quickly to other countries. We are no exception.

People are naturally moving away from talking to people face to face, it's sad some thing needs to be done to help with the break down within society. This was suspected before the smoking ban to place.

23

Eve,

Scotland 12/02/2008 17:23:55
#19 Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head: I don't drink beer let alone from the can!!!

You really are miss reading my comments!!!

Besides widget are a programme thingy used in some web page to set up fancy things!!!

If you know so much about these widget if thats what they are really called why cant you name the other chemicals!!!

SO4 by any chance commonly used as a food perservitive, safe in small dozes!!!!

I'm geussing it doesn't contain Hg or Pb.
24

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 12/02/2008 17:36:39
Eve,

Widgets (and gadgets for that matter) can be found in the context of X windows programming toolkits they are primative components compiled within a library (which is normally a shared object library) and their prototypes and/or headers may be found in the accompanying header C/C++ header files which accompany the library. They are not programs in their own right. they are not used within web pages (at least not in the strict sense). They are used for building X-windows interfaces of the kind which run on a Unix workstation.

Widgets are also small plastic balls whose function is to add a head to the contents of a can of beer. I've since looked up a reference to this and have discovered that my description was not strictly correct (mind you it was from quite an old source).

The widget has a small hole in it. when the beer is canned, a quantity of liquid nitrogen is injected into it just before the top is sealed. This then changes to a gas and pressurises the can, forcing beer into the widget through the small hole.

When the can is opened, a jet of beer is forced out of the widget at high speed, thereby agitating it and giving it its head. The chemicals to which I refer are already in the beer and generally cause it to taste a bit like Jeyes Fluid.

Now that I;ve cleared that one up can you please deal with your mis-conception of "passive smoking" yourself. It has been PROVEN to be false.
25

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 12/02/2008 17:41:28
Also Eve,

If you have worked in a bar you must surely know the above information.

Do you know the difference between keg beer and real ale?
Would you know how to rack, tap and spile a beer barrel?
Do you know the main difference between a conventional keg and a Guinness keg?
How would you make a "Dry Martini"?

Come on! This is supposed to be your trade!
26

Eve,

Scotland 12/02/2008 18:20:58
#25 Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head: Thats NOT my trade!!!!!


Oh and this was made up by a couple of smokers. I know passive smoking harms health. When I quite my bar job before the smoking ban, I had a smokers coff for about a 1 1/2year, if passive smoking is NOT harmfuly to health then I wouldn't of had a coff at all never mind for the duration of 1& 1/2 years.

"Now that I;ve cleared that one up can you please deal with your mis-conception of "passive smoking" yourself. It has been PROVEN to be false."
ACTULY IT'S BEEN PROVEN TRUE
27

joppa jock,

Huntingdon 12/02/2008 19:42:47
As long as the posers amongst us insist on walking about with a bottle of fancy labelled water in one hand and their mobile phone in the other, the price of bottled water will continue to be at stupid levels. As far as the price of beer is concerned, you get what you pay for!
28

Gdgy,

dndy 12/02/2008 20:55:25
Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head

Having read your ravings on this post, now I am certain that you have been imbibing too much petrol...
The smoking ban is here to say - it is very popular..
perhaps the only decent thing the SLumpties ever did - no party, not even the tories, would reverse it...

As for passive smoking you can find "evidence" either way BUT bar workers and entertainers tell me that it was a real pain - now it is gone.....

Hooray! the tyranny of smokers has been broken!!!!!!!!!
29

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 12/02/2008 22:37:43
Eve,

I quite simply do not believe you had a "smoker's cough" through being in a bar. Judging by your previous exaggerations and twisted logic (ie traffic fumes don't bother you unless you are standing right next to a road etc) I frankly do not believe a word you say on the subject.

G,

You have always appeared to be led by propaganda and are one of the minority of moaners. Most people do not care either way about tobacco smoke.

If the pair of you really believe all your rantings then maybe you could get together and spend the rest of your lives moaning about how others are enjoying themselves by doing things you don't agree with.

Why don't the pair of you wake up, grow up and stop living in cloud cuckoo land? One of these days they will curtail or regulate something you like, by which time, no-one will be left to help you stand up for yourselves. If you wish to be like little lambs and follow whichever woolly-headed idea comes out of the mouth of some daft politician then be my guest---only keep it to yourselves and don't inflict your nonsense on anyone else, especially those who prefer to think for themselves.
30

48thfloor,

13/02/2008 14:16:05
Wooo Hooo... cheap beer!
31

Dunnyveg,

13/02/2008 18:33:46
"If the pair of you really believe all your rantings then maybe you could get together and spend the rest of your lives moaning about how others are enjoying themselves by doing things you don't agree with."

This observation is spot on. It reminds me of H.L. Mencken's quip that a Puritan is one who is deathly afraid that somebody, somewhere, might be enjoying themselves.

Since most of those who want to control other's lives are anti-religious liberals, it strikes me as ironic that they emulate themselves what they most detest in religious people.
32

Eve,

Scotland 13/02/2008 20:54:56
#29 Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head: ..... AND you think I should believe everything you say!!!!

I'm sorry I can't!!!! (I can see the probability of the use of liquid N in the things in cans, though this is just one exception, frankly)

People smoking around me does make me feel ill. I did was vomit because people where smoking near me.
And I did have a smoker coff from passive smoking for about 1 & 1/2 after I quit working in a smoky pub.

Traffic NO, because Traffic doesn't walk on the pavement and come and stand next to me when I'm waiting on a bus. or stand in the door ways of some premises. You think may be I have an algey to nicotine.

After reading your comments on this page, I don't think I'll ever read another one of your post ever again, cause your just talking plain noicence with made up fact!!!!

Good Bye and wish you luck in broading your horizons, which I strongly suggest you do.

I can apersate that smoking is an addiction.

BUT I know for a fact that smoking brings about horrible slow death, no matter what age you live too, it something you don't want to experience or witness anyone experience unless your sick in the head, of course.


P.S. I suspect you have another user name, be very careful or I'll type my suspicions.
33

Eve,

Scotland 13/02/2008 21:07:51
#31 Dunnyveg: And you think I'm old enough to know what your going on about!!!!

Think you your look at this in the wrong way. I gave my opinion on something and someone, decided to be nasty towards me because it wasn't the same as there's.

If people want to smoke they can do it:
a) Outside
b) In there own homes
c) Or in designated smoking areas, which don't let the smoke travel to the other areas.

--------------------------------------------------------------

What is this gang up on the non-smoker cause they don't like being exposed to your unhealthy filthy habit?

Please:
I value my health, whats wrong with that!!!
34

Dunnyveg,

13/02/2008 21:13:50
Eve, I don't smoke, nor do I care to be around smoke. But that doesn't give me the right to a smoke-free world. And I don't think you have the right to expect the same either. If you look hard enough I think you'll find you have some trait or habit that others don't like. Why don't you show smokers the same toleration you'd want for yourself?

I'm afraid I just don't understand rank intolerance.
35

azp,

14/02/2008 10:02:26
Yet another story saying supermarkets are cheaper than pubs - well of course they are - food is also cheaper in a supermarket is it not - you cannot compare the to -you do not stay in a supermarket to drink or eat - the nonsense they try to force down your throats !!
36

DottyW,

France 14/02/2008 13:02:30
How much tolerance are you supposed to show smokers and will they show non-smokers the same? Sure, they have a right to smoke, but non-smokers also have a right not to breathe in smoke. Therefore something's got to give; hence smoking bans. No-one is saying smokers can never smoke again - they can still exercise their right, just not in certain places. And non-smokers are now actually starting to be able to exercise their right. As for myself, I am allergic to smoke: it blocks and irritates my nose, not to mention the stink of it on clothes and hair that is hard to get rid of. In addition, I spoke to a waitress here in France who has been working in smokiing environments for over 20 years. She's ecstatic about the ban and is happy to now be able to go home without reeking of tobacco. And how many of you smokers/pro-smokers think it's OK to smoke around children? Or when you're pregnant? No? Well, what's the difference with adults? Why don't you all grow up, get some perspective and stop whinging. If you can't spend some time out of your day not smoking then you have a real problem. Have a nice smoke!
37

jonny_j,

racing capital of the world 14/02/2008 14:27:05
I think its ridiculous that everyone here choses to point fingers as to acts worse when their drug..and they say we're bad on holdiay ha!
38

Barry Leotard,

14/02/2008 18:51:58
If only you could get beer through your taps. If it's cheaper than water surely it would be ideal for cleaning or cooking with.

 

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