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Published Date: 03 June 2009
PLANS by the Scottish Government to introduce minimum pricing for alcohol products have come under fire in a major research report today.
It finds that the likely impact on heavy and hazardous drinkers has been over-estimated and that the benefits of increased alcohol prices, such as reductions in health, crime and workplace accidents and damage are over-estimated.

The report, fro
m the Centre for Economics and Business Research, is a direct challenge to the arguments presented by the Scottish Government for higher prices in its drive against alcohol abuse, particularly among young people.

The report estimates that if minimum pricing at 40p per unit was introduced in Scotland:

• Harmful drinkers (that is, men who consume more than 50 units a week and women who consume more than 35 units) to whom the pricing legislation is targeted would reduce consumption by just 2.3 per cent or between one and two units a week on average.

• The value to individuals of improved health and job prospects would be less than £30 million a year.

• The savings to wider society including the National Health Service and policing costs and costs to victims of crime would be around £6 million a year, or 0.06 per cent of the total NHS Scotland annual budget.

The report says the economic case for minimum pricing is weak and goes on: "Moderate drinkers would have to pay towards a policy that will have a marginal impact."

Ben Read, one of the report's authors and managing economist at CEBR, said: "The figures do not present a compelling case once you take into account the substantial additional costs to consumers and the fact that heavier drinkers are least responsive to price increases.

"Our findings raise serious questions about the robustness of the Scottish Government's evidence base for minimum pricing. We would suggest further research is done before a policy of this kind is considered."

The Scottish government has put forward a series of measures to crack down on alcohol abuse, estimated to cost the country some £2.25 billion a year.

Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill has argued that minimum pricing for alcohol would most affect harmful and hazardous drinkers. He said: "We need to change the culture of looking up to the heavy-drinking hard man."

In April the British Medical Association highlighted statistics on alcohol abuse in Scotland, including a 400 per cent increase since 1996 in the numbers of those with liver disease. It also called for the minimum pricing of products, based on alcohol content.

The CEBR argues that overall, consumption of alcohol products appears to be price inelastic – this means that a 10 per cent change in price will typically lead to a less than 10 per cent reduction in consumption.

The University of Sheffield study estimated that hazardous and harmful drinkers have a price inelasticity of minus 0.21 across all alcohol products – this implies a 10 per cent increase in the price would only lead to a 2.1 per cent reduction in consumption amongst heavier drinkers.

"This means that pricing legislation is unlikely to have a significant impact on overall consumption levels of those drinkers that it is intended to target, unless price increases are set at very high levels, which would place an unfair burden on moderate drinkers," the CEBR said

Minimum pricing, the report notes, would also substantially increase firms' profits at the expense of consumers.





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1

Vivas,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 00:17:11
"Major challenge" ? From the CEBR ?? Eh ? A London based business-oriented research company sees only badness in an alcohol pricing strategy in Scotland. Well I never !

In reality, not a major challenge at all. Or as Meths pointed out earlier on another thread, Northbritman headlines always need to be put through the unionist reverse-logic decoder in order to make any kind of sense of them...

2

Black Sabbath,

03/06/2009 01:23:25
#1 The SNP's proposals on alcohol are of such stupidity, they are worthy of New Labour.

Dump them, along with Kenny MacAskill.
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 02:51:41


The Point is that, "minimum drink prices" is of grotesque stupidity, beyond believe!
Those that 'Choose to Abuse', will always find the ways and the means to do-so!


4

fife runner,

03/06/2009 06:49:18
drink in real terms is far cheaper than when i was a teenager in the 60's. although people rubbish the proposals what else do you have in mind as all else has failed and we now have soaring alchohol induced illness and violence as well as teenage pregnancy rates mostly caused through being drunk.
5

fife runner,

03/06/2009 06:49:51
all other ideas on the back of a postage stamp please.
6

Euan,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 07:21:08
#2

Totally agree.

The sooner that idiot MacAskill is given the boot, the better off this country will be.
7

an interested party,

03/06/2009 07:37:08
yes yes we must do something
erm i mean we must be seen to do something
even if its pointless and ineffectual

what do i suggest?
has it come to that has it?
asking layman on the street.

firstly commission an independent study on the matter
(that is to say -not by the BMA or the alcohol industry or the SNP)
trial some of the studies suggestions
in different areas
observe the results
form opinion then

or

jerk that knee for instant ridicule and ineffectual results
8

yockel,

03/06/2009 07:52:55
Lets make booze illegal, it works for drugs.
9

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03/06/2009 08:12:45
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10

Aesop,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 08:14:01
The alcohol industry fights back. Lost profits obviously matter more to them than health.
11

Mike S,

03/06/2009 09:06:13
If they want to curb binge drinking what about the subsidised bars in the House of Commons or the freebies that councillors get at their functions? I remember a case where a certain Mr Foulkes, as he was then, was found inebriate in the streets. If they want to curb binge drinking let politicians lead by example.
12

The Ayrshire Bard,

03/06/2009 09:06:31
#4 Charles is correct in saying that those who choose to abuse will always find a way.
When the pubs in Edinburgh closed at 10.00pm there was never a shortage of drunks staggering home, nor was there a shortage of winos knocking back their meths and boot polish cocktails.
13

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03/06/2009 09:23:31
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14

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 09:47:47
"It finds that the likely impact on heavy and hazardous drinkers has been over-estimated and that the benefits of increased alcohol prices, such as reductions in health, crime and workplace accidents and damage are over-estimated."

Does it really take a professional survey to come to that conclusion? I worked that one out in 30 seconds as soon as I heard of these ridiculous proposals.

"Moderate drinkers would have to pay towards a policy that will have a marginal impact."

Likewise.

Goodbye Kenny! You've had your little play with the big boys. Now go back to your little fantasy house and shut the door.
15

Curious Yellow,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 09:52:24
#5 - how about just enforcing the laws that we have at the moment? Typical knee-jerk reactionary politicking.

If the police would use the powers they currently have instead of going for the soft target motorists alll the time, we would see a difference. Of course, that would mean that King Kenny's famous community based sentences would fly out the window!
16

Mèths,

03/06/2009 09:53:30
This is all very well but:-

"Proposals to set a minimum price for alcohol have been drawn up by England's chief medical officer Sir Liam Donaldson."

15 March 2009

The UK is copying these mad proposals. Unionists came on here months ago saying it was a crazy policy.

The "drink all you can for a fiver", "3 for 2 deals", "bogof" etc are all being considered darn sath.
17

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 09:54:53
To all those who advocate this ridiculous increase in the price of drink, take a look at Norway for a moment. They have stupidly high drink prices, which has led to an explosion in home brewing, wine making and even distilling.

18

Mèths,

03/06/2009 09:56:03
Go Norway! You rock!
19

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 10:03:58
#5:

The cause of most of that is not the price of drink, but cultural reasons.

There is no requirement to be able to handle your drink nowadays. It is seen as big and clever to act like a moron after a few beers and is perfectly acceptable (and even funny) to be sick all over the place etc.

When MacAskill says "We need to change the culture of looking up to the heavy-drinking hard man." it is slightly ironic, because the kind of "hard man" he is talking about is likely to be someone who CAN handle their drink, knows their limits and has respect for others. Surely we should be encouraging people to aspire to that?

The over-zealous enforcement of rules and the treating of everyone like idiots has done a lot of damage to the fabric of this society. More of the same is not going to change anything.
20

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 10:07:20
#19:

Yes. Norway does rock...

However, I dread to think of the concoctions your average schemie would produce with a home-made still. I trust the Norwegians slightly more to produce drinkable hooch.

The point is that home-brewing and distilling will take control away from government and what will happen then?
21

Neal! Whit? Haud yer Whisht!!,

03/06/2009 10:22:42
Of course, what should be done with Alcohol AND Tobacco is to subject them to the same criteria/scrutiny that they apply to Smack, Speed, Hash, MDMA etc etc.

Instant illegality!!!
22

It's Leith for me!,

03/06/2009 11:04:22
#9 spot on yockel!
23

Linda,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 11:40:05
Again Johnston Press economical with the truth. This reearch was wholly funded by the drinks industry.
24

The Ayrshire Bard,

03/06/2009 12:08:45
#14 Spagan. You're correct about it being a different era, particularly re anti-social behaviour.
In the 50's I regularly walked from Joppa to Leith when I missed the last bus. Through Portobello and Seafield Road, round by Leith Links, Duke Street and Leith Walk without ever a feeling of trepidation.
I doubt if I'd like to make that journey nowadays with drunks spilling out of pubs at all hours of the night.
25

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03/06/2009 13:55:32
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26

Shave,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 14:53:32
#24 Linda - "This research was wholly funded by the drinks industry."

Really? Got a reference for that?
27

Shave,

Edinburgh 03/06/2009 14:56:45
#24 Linda

Ah, found it. Yup, funded by SAB Millar, brewers.
28

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 03/06/2009 15:09:56
Bill, do they not have a vested interest??
29

Kenny A,

03/06/2009 23:19:07
20 Not often I agree with you but spot on this time.

I used to be a heavy drinker and associated with those who were, the Army, the fishing, the sea. All were hard but no trouble, as discipline was always there along with a regard for others.

The minimum pricing smacks of a return to proabition which never worked. A friend of mine who is still in Scotland told me Tesco has introduced a policy of ID for under 25 year olds. I assume this is a joke can anyone let me know.

While I accept drink is a massive issue, I feel drugs are much more insidious and should be looked at more closly.

The nanny state the UK and Scotland in particular is turning into what just makes me glad I got out of it when I did. Dont get me wrong I want to return but it is not the same.

I have friends from various countries who have visited in recent years, all decent people and what they all say is the same, they are sh%t scared of even going out in case the Feds land on them. What happened to common sense, if this continues no one will want to go to Scotland. People do need a little freedom as long as no one is hurt, a beer or two perhaps and horror upon horrors perhaps a get to gether in their own houses without a spy satilite stationed over the roof and a battalion of imported Spetnaz ready to jump down the chimney at the first sign of somebody enjoying themselves.

 

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