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Electricity grid almost full, say green power bosses



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Published Date: 10 September 2008
SCOTLAND'S renewable targets will not be met unless the "woeful" electricity grid system is urgently improved, energy company bosses warned yesterday.
The grid network which transports electricity across Scotland is almost full, and must be expanded to enable the renewables industry to grow, according to directors at Scottish and Southern Energy (SSE) and ScottishPower Renewables.

The controvers
ial plans to expand the Beauly to Denny transmission line will be key, they argue.

Dr Keith Maclean, head of sustainable development at SSE, told The Scotsman that without this expansion, the targets of 20 per cent of energy from renewables by 2020 will not be met.

"It's as simple as that," he said. "Without enough capacity in the transmission network, we won't be able to connect enough renewable projects.

"Beauly-Denny is the key to unleashing sufficient capacity to meet the 2020 targets."

Currently, 115 Scottish renewable schemes, totalling nine gigawatts, are waiting in a queue to plug into the grid before they can transmit electricity.

Some already have planning permission but have to wait many years to connect.

The 21-turbine Drummuir wind farm by energy company RES was granted permission in 2005 but cannot connect until 2016 due to the backlog.

The warnings came on the day of a major energy conference in Edinburgh, hosted by the Scottish Council for Development and Industry.

Jim Mather, the energy minister, announced at the Scotland's Energy Future Conference that 5.5 gigawatts of renewable schemes are now operating or have planning permission in Scotland – more than enough to meet the Scottish Government's targets of 31 per cent of electricity from renewable sources by 2011.

However, Keith Anderson, director of ScottishPower Renewables, told the conference: "It's all very well consenting renewable projects... but we need to be able to connect them to a grid system. The current grid system is woeful for what we need in the future. It needs huge levels of investment and it needs to happen very, very quickly."

A decision is expected on the Beauly-Denny line next year, and one renewable industry insider said the wait was "ridiculous".

Jason Ormiston, chief executive of Scottish Renewables said the Beauly to Denny powerline was the "keystone" and described it as "a real test of political support for renewables".

The plans to replace the Beauly to Denny transmission line have attracted more than 18,000 objections, many on environmental grounds.

Last night, a Scottish Government spokesman agreed the grid system "places significant barriers towards meeting our renewable energy ambitions."





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1

Resolutions,

10/09/2008 00:27:42
So #1 you are going to blame the 'brain-washed' scum for power cuts, when the next power cut comes? Because the grid cannot cope, due to a lack of forward thinking and investment over a long period of time, long before greens were really known about.

And there are other ways of putting in capacity, other than by massive pylons.
2

Resolutions,

10/09/2008 00:38:31
Silence my comment does not apply to you - it was in response to one that has vanished into the mists
3

Padraig,

10/09/2008 02:16:45
Hmmm - sounds as though these power companies want this new line to be built to take "their" generation, despite the curent thinking being to generate powr nearest where it is needed, not at the other side of Beauly!

Wrong place, wrong time, it seems!
4

Heed thi baw,

10/09/2008 07:13:36
Build sub-sea cables under the East and West Coast's of Scotland. All areas of the country can tap into it. And offshore wind, wave and tidal schemes can connect straight into the sub sea network, which is the main reason most offshore renewable schemes have not come to fruition. Also far less environmental/visual impact to the Scottish countryside.
5

nabodican,

Rural Scotland 10/09/2008 07:15:53
Wwhat they are talking about is windfarms, they use the term "renewable energy" as part of their spin.
The present grid has ample capacity to meet Scotlands needs and does not need any more.
Scrap the subsidies in the form of ROCS and then lets see how many windfarms they want.
In these days of fuel poverty, the last thing we need is more windfarms that are guaranteed to push up prices.
6

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 10/09/2008 08:06:41
No question but that electricity pylons are ugly, but far worse is no electricty. No gain without pain. Unless the objectors have more feasible plans then they must be ignored.
7

danielrober,

10/09/2008 08:11:21
With complaints such as this i imagine that a 'Green Scotland Grid' will bethe first utility to be nationalised after separation. Then the chosen few power generators will go ahead with whatever plans they all ready have.

Just such a shame, as it need not happen this way. But i guess in a power stuggle for influence after separation will be brutal. Those with the ability to 'give jobs' to mates and allies, over rides engineering considerations will havea degee of power. A nationalised energy grid, no doudt to be called renationalsied, will be just be a waste of government money and importantly effort.

Shame as political skils are really needed in so many other aeas of Scotlands activties.
8

theburnschap,

The Broch 10/09/2008 09:01:22
So if the grid is at capacity, why not scale down the ungreen generators and unplug them from the network, freeing up the capacity for the green generators and managing to increase the percentage of green energy more rapidly.......

Of course, I forgot, that would hit the massive profits of SSE and ScoPow.
9

Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 10/09/2008 09:16:00
These developers want the taxpayer to provide the cash to build their windfarms (through stealth taxes on electricity bills) - then they want the taxpayer to pay to build a new transmission grid (through stealth taxes on electricity bills and from government grants); then - when we have paid to build the windfarms and build the pylons - THEY collect the vast profits.
But poor people will still be unable to afford the electricity produced and the profits will accrue to private companies.
10

Scotish Exile,

10/09/2008 09:43:02
Tell them to pay for it themselves, the consumers already pay far too much.
11

SlyFifer,

Somewhere south of Fife 10/09/2008 09:49:59
To describe lack of forward planning on grid capacity as 'woeful', perhaps the addition of 'incompetent' could well be used. As far as I am aware the population of Scotland has rarely changed in decades and unless we are opening new factories every day which have substantial electricity needs, then where does all this extra 'capacity' need to be provided for ?.
12

Margaret L,

Edinburgh 10/09/2008 11:38:29
#12 The Sunday Times recently had a map forecasting where UK energy was to come from in 2020 and it had earmarked 11gws from the North of Scotland. That's 11,000 wind turbines.
13

Captain Flint,

Edinburgh 10/09/2008 12:21:25
Margaret #13,

It's likely that some of this 11 GWs will indeed be from wind turbines. But I would imagine that a much larger proportion will come from marine renewables such as wave and tidal power.

As I see it, there are two issues here. The first (that I have alluded to above) is that a large part of Scotland's renewable resource is location specific. The Pentland Firth has an enormous tidal power potential, while the Firth of Forth (much nearer to where people and their kettles are located) does not. So we need to move this big chunk of electricity a couple of hundred miles to where it's needed. This means upgrading the Scottish grid, which equals bigger pylons between Beauly and Denny.

The second point is slightly more complicated. But in a nutshell, we need to make much more use of localised generation wherever possible. Tidal power is fixed to where the tides run fastest, but we can generate thermal power virtually anywhere. At the moment, we're reliant on woefully inefficient fossil fuelled and nuclear power stations that waste most of their fuel inputs. If we could move from the current system of large, inefficient power stations to a larger number of small, efficient ones using combined heat and power technology, we'd generate power much closer to where it's needed. Then there'd be more spare capacity in the grid to move the output from location specific renewables to where we need it.

That's my twopennorth. Take it or leave it.
14

Nomada,

10/09/2008 12:30:01
#12 SlyFifer - it goes somewhere south of Scotland to feed the obligation on suppliers in England to use renewables.

#9 in the Broch - you have identified the flaw in the wind. You can't take out fossil generation by addressing just the supply side, because of the inherent unreliability of wind, but if we were really serious about it a determined reduction in demand (and it is 'demand' not 'need') would do it.
15

Abel Magwitch,

10/09/2008 12:55:43
In most of Africa and the Caribbean area, the lights do not always come on when they are switched on. That is one reason for migrants choosing Scotland or England. If conditions here get bad enough, there may be a net emigration.
16

Nomada,

10/09/2008 13:35:40
Those of us, #17, who are more in touch with reality than you appear to be.
17

Rabbies Wee Bruthir,

10/09/2008 14:07:35
12 SlyFifer,Somewhere south of Fife 10/09/2008 09:49:59

40 years ago the 'average household' would have had a BW TV, a Radiogram, a small fridge, perhaps an electric cooker and perhaps a twin tub washing machine, along with an electric fire, total units used per day would have been very small.

Compared to usage today, with the 'average household' have a Color TV in every room, two or three computers, huge 'American style' Fridge freezers, Electric Cooker,Automatic Washing machine, Tumble Dryer, Microwave oven,Electric Dish-washing machine, DVD player, DVD recorders, Set top boxes, Midi hi fi in every room, Mobile Phones with chargers, lights burning incessantly, gas central heating 'powered by electric pumps', electric lawn cutters, electric hedge trimmers, electric drills.... get the picture, although 'heavy industry' is all but dead, domestic demand has quintupled at the very least, thereby taking up any 'slack' in the system.

This plus the export of electricity to Ireland, France, England etc, through the NG system adds to demand. To take the strain off the grid demand needs to be evened out, which is an impossible task, as all the numpties out there seem to want a 'cup of tea' just after Corrie or Eastie has finished, it would surprise you how big a strain that simple thing alone puts on the NG, if just one Power Station fails at that time you are looking at 'power cuts'!!!.

The real answer is to have reactive Power supplies, such as Hydro, which can be 'switched on and off' quite easily.
18

Resolutions,

10/09/2008 17:23:03
There is also the point that we can and should export our surplus generation of power to 'deficient' areas. This grid does not need to be massive pylons. What about undersea cables? There already are some of those and Europe was talking about a 'Eurogrid'. What they going to do? Sling big cables across the channel?

Looking back, it would appear that our dear companies, have failed to look to the future AGAIN and anticipate need and how we distribute the energy.ie they should've been upgrading the NG all along and not grouching now.

 

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