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Planning system 'will thwart green power hopes for Scotland'



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Published Date: 23 February 2008
SCOTLAND will fail in its bid to become the green energy centre of Europe because of a lack of dynamism and a bureaucratic planning system, one of the country's leading businessmen warned yesterday.
Ian Marchant, chief executive of Scottish & Southern Energy, told MSPs and business leaders that the goal – set by enterprise minister Jim Mather – was the equivalent of "St Johnstone winning the Champions League".

His claim follows widespread cri
ticism of the country's planning system.

First Minster Alex Salmond's council of economic advisers has prioritised the issue and earlier this month said it wanted incentives for local authorities.

Mr Marchant – who is also chairman of the Climate Change Business Delivery Group – said his company's plans for a wind farm had been going through the planning process for five years.

Addressing the Business in the Parliament conference at Holyrood, he said if companies worked to such long time frames, ventures would never get off the ground.

SSE recently acquired a company which has worked on wind farms around the world, he said, and in its experience, the UK planning system was the worst to deal with.

He said: "We have one wind- farm development that's been in the planning for five years. If business took five years to make a decision, it would not be a business.

"So, Jim, your claim that there's no doubt the country can be the green energy capital of Europe is the equivalent of me standing here with an office in Perth saying there's no doubt in the next 12 years St Johnstone will win the Champions League."

He said the country had the right leadership for success but decision-making needed to be improved.

John Swinney, the finance minister, admitted that the planning system was "utterly absurd" because it gave the same attention to "doors and windows" as it did to major developments.

Earlier, First Minister Alex Salmond said the government's flagship policy of matching the UK growth rate of about 2.5-3 per cent could still be achieved despite the economic climate.

In the longer term, the government wants to increase growth levels to those of the smaller of independent nations around Scotland such as the Irish Republic and Norway.

Mr Salmond also reiterated his calls for a shake-up of the planning system.

ENERGY IS GREEN GOLD

A EUROPEAN Green Energy Centre is to be established in Aberdeen, Alex Salmond, Scotland's First Minister, announced yesterday.

The centre will promote and develop a range of renewable energy technologies.

Speaking at the European Movement Energy Conference in Aberdeen, Mr Salmond said technical expertise in the country meant Scotland had something to offer Europe.

He said: "Not long ago, Scotland's climate was seen as something of a drawback. Well no longer. Now our powerful waters and our high winds – onshore and offshore – are the envy of Europe, and key to our future prosperity."

He said the centre would draw upon the network of European research and industry-wide partnerships in place to develop new projects.

"We want Scottish based industry and research to be at the forefront of European," he added.

It will be created under the new Energy Technologies Partnership – a joint venture between Aberdeen and Robert Gordon universities.

The announcement was welcomed by Jason Ormiston, chief executive of Scottish Renewables.





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1

James,

"It's often safer to be in chains than to be free. 23/02/2008 03:50:22
Council planning depts. - a jobsworths paradise - overcomplex, overstaffed and overbearing.
2

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/02/2008 05:21:15
The Scottish planning system is a joke. There needs to be a complete overhaul. They should look at whether leaving this in the hands of local councils is the best option or whether a regional or national planning authority is better. You could still leave local councils authority to zone specific areas as industrial, commercial, multi use, residential or green belt and also the ability to set density limits but giving them final approval over projects has been an utter disaster. Approvals seem more based on who is doing the work and who owns the property than on the merits of the development. Scotland deserves better.
3

nabodican,

Rural Scotland 23/02/2008 06:27:35
The planning system may be a joke but thank goodness it is there, otherwise the likes of Ian Marchant and the rest of the wind industry who are in it only for the money would have Scotland looking like one huge pin cushion with their "Windmills of Mass Destruction"
4

James,

23/02/2008 06:38:23
Planners plus Nimby's = Scotland, the backwater.
5

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/02/2008 06:53:06
Thankfully nabodican speaks for a small but shrill minority that would see everyone crouched in their boothey warming there hands over a peat fire. They would see Scotland lose the opportunity to create the worlds first carbon neutral economy to protect the scenery that no one ever sees. Save for a few sheep.
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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 23/02/2008 07:03:42
#5 Sweden is already well set to be the world's first carbon neutral economy.

I agree that Scotland could be a close runner-up, but it's up to the government to encourage/force the rest of us to go green; and to stimulate industry to innovate and build green machines. The technology is basically known, but there's insufficient incentive to shift from old bad habits.
7

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/02/2008 07:23:19
#Yes but Sweden is doing that on Hydro and Nuclear primarily which still does not solve the problem of using Hydrocarbon based fuels for Transport.
One of the drawbacks to wind energy is that it is intermitant. Utillities spend large sums on contigent power for when the wind fails. In the US this figure is $38 per kilo watt hour. An American professor has proposed that the utilities could make free power available to Electric Vehicles and Hybrid that would be stored in the vehicles battery and then discharged as the utillity needs it. This would save the utillity considerable sums and as current hybrids like the Prius have 93 kilo watt hours of storage this is enough to power 4 average homes for a day when the wind does not blow. You could encourage consumers to by these vehicles with something as simple as the promise of free power and a refund of the VAT on the purchase.
8

danielrober,

23/02/2008 07:48:07
I always feel uncomfortable defending the civil service and lawyers. Its like a mouse standing up to fight for a lion and a tiger. But some times mice do need to roar.

Our planning system 'works' and is designed, in great part, to prevent another demolition round. In the time period of 1950 - 1980 we pulled down, Georgian housing (now been rebuilt), railways (now been rebuilt), coalmines (which we wish we could rebuild) and crushed small watermills (that could of generated elctricity).

We also built motorways though the center of towns, industrial facilities on green fields and planned nature reserves in industrial parks.

The planning system may be crazy but it is intended to protect all our heritage from short term fashions. Afterall the wind will still be blowing tommorow
9

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/02/2008 08:15:17
danielrober,So to prevent any bad planning decisions, you would continue with at system that is sclerotic. These wind farms are not not going to lead to any Georgian Houses being pulled down or any Water Mills being crushed. Do you think that planning decisions are best left in the hands of the Martin Fords of this world or in the hands of a professional body that makes planning decisions on their merit and following a defined set of rules governing enviromental and community impact studies as well as public hearings.
10

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 23/02/2008 08:25:38
There's confusion above. Wind farms are a mere distraction from the main issues. For example much tougher building controls to make all homes air tight and heat leak proof are easily legislated for and implemented. All Swedish homes follow this line and save a gigantic amount of energy. Much smaller and slower cars are easily legislated for, as are rules that where land links exist air links should not. It is in these sort of areas that bureaucracy can get an act together, but the failure to do so is not the fault of lowly jobswoths, but us the voters who support useless political parties.
11

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/02/2008 08:27:14
"Afterall the wind will still be blowing tommorow"
Yes, but the jobs that these new technologies are creating will be in countries like Germany, Denmark, Spain, America and Canada that developed them. We will produce the energy while they get the jobs.
12

danielrober,

23/02/2008 09:02:09
# KampungHighlander,Jakarta


"These wind farms are not not going to lead to any Georgian Houses being pulled down or any Water Mills being crushed."

That's because they have already been pulled down.

Consider this statement - Look people and companies invest in the UK inspite of our planning rules.

Well they do and the planning routes are painfull, but they are also stable. If you build a power station, it will probably continue to run for a half century. That makes it a great investment for pension funds. Planning rules are slow, but they are also stable.

As for wind turbine jobs. There are no wind turbine comapnies in the UK producing the type of large scale MW capacity, as demanded by current 'fashions'. These jobs are already found in these other countries and i am sure they don't mind waiting for planning permission.

After all we are securing their pensions.
13

AJM,

23/02/2008 09:08:22
#11 KampungHighlander
That is the nub of the issue that is where Scottish engineering skills lay in the past and that is where we should be gong. AS saying he wants to be carbon neutral but he wants to build new coal fires power stations as if they are clean, calling them does not make them clean. Then to say they are going to get rid of quangos and then create one in the European green energy centre.

It is all trying to create an impression of furthering Scotland, but this sort of initiative really needs money into research first, ah yes the universities.
14

Isonomia,

Lenzie 23/02/2008 09:29:54
Hasn't anyone hurd global temperatures are cooling and this January was the coldest month globally in 14 years.

See: http://www.lenzie.org.uk/scam.php
15

Ananurhing,

23/02/2008 09:34:21
Entering the planning system is like stepping through the looking glass into a parallel universe. A planner once told me " Your trouble is that you come here, trying to engage with us while talking common sense. It really isn't applicable here." Wise words indeed, and he was right!

The Town and Country Planning Act (Scotland) needs to be torn up, rewritten, and the process streamlined. It really isn't fit for purpose. It can be like trying to run a marathon through chewing gum.

I've had to unnecessarily delay one business start up by nearly 2 years, abandon others because the planning process made them economically unviable, and even had to threaten a council with court action, just to get them to stick to the rules! And you can abandon all hope if Hysteric Scotland become involved. Other than lunch, their purpose seems to be to extort erroneous details from you, just because they can!

I plan to never have to go there again. I'm sure I'll live longer for making that decision.

16

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/02/2008 09:42:08
#12 You are right about the Turbines, none are produced in Scotland. But there are a whole layer of ancilliary technologies be developed to take advantage of wind turbine produced power. Companies in Canada are developing technologies to store that energy in the form of hydrogen gas. Companies in Japan are developing next generation battery technologies. Companies in California are using Nano Technologies to develope more efficient solar cells. There are thousands of other opportunities in energy technology.
That you can argue that 5 years waiting for planning permission is somehow acceptable shows your utter ignorance of who business decisions are made. When companies make decisions about allocating capital they base those decisions on where that capital will generate the greatest return. Expending large sums planning projects where a 5 year planning time span is the norm is a waste. Better to put that wind farm in Spain or in Ireland or any where else but Scotland because they are incapable of reaching a decision.
17

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/02/2008 09:56:59
#15 And I wonder how many Billions of Pounds in FDI Scotland misses out on annually because of a poorly designed planning process. You will never know, because Scotland was never even considered because its disfuctional planning system is so well known.
18

The Strategist,

23/02/2008 09:57:32
#16 KampungHighlander

Yes - there are lots of other technologies to be developed and commercialised and turned into global companies.

Unfortunately that requires investment. Scotland doesn't do investment.
19

Gothic Rose,

23/02/2008 10:01:37
16# Read the Jonathan Sach Feature."What will fuel future global development"
20

Gothic Rose,

23/02/2008 10:07:00
Apologies. Should be Jeffery Sachs.Not as quoted at#19
21

danielrober,

23/02/2008 10:09:18
# 16 KampungHighlander,Jakarta

Tut, tu, temper. I'm guessing that you are one of the guys who's time is running out on some contract or other. Build it now or we will replace you. Okay thats your business.

1, 'Companies in Canada are developing technologies to store that energy in the form of hydrogen gas.' Everyone is developing this technology, its fun and competitive.

2,'Companies in Japan are developing next generation battery technologies.' yes they are but to support nuclear power, based on a project outside of Oxford, UK.

3,'Companies in California are using Nano Technologies to develope more efficient solar cells.' No actually its the Russians who ae leading in this business.

Look have fun in Spain, Ireland or whatever, paty while your there. But planning needs to be considered carefully, so as not to destroy, AGAIN, our national heritage.
22

Mcsnagpile,

23/02/2008 10:09:53
All right, we did not win the World cup !BUT! we are the Green Capital of Europe. We have bought more German Wind Turbines than any one else, Goody, Goody. Maybe we should all get a free crate of Bavarian Beer for being such good customers.
We ripped up Lothian Rd and installed a non Scottish rumbling Tram, maybe we should install some wind turbines while we are at it. We will have even more windy bridges over the Forth, maybe we should install a few wind turbines at the same time. Come to the three bridges, turbine capital. London naw Edinburgh Bridge is fallin doon.

The Planning department is far too quick in making decisions. The criteria should be extended.

If Scotland had its own (not politically correct) design, manufacture and build wind power generation, perhaps I would have a wee bit of pride, even if they were expensive, inefficient, ugly monsters.

From Scotland, to Scotland, by (buy) Scotland……
23

Neil,

Glasgow 23/02/2008 10:31:04
I agree that the "planning" system is a tremendous millstone round our necks but I think the way it prevents building homes for people is a far greater problem than the way it, sometimes, prevents covering our countryside with useless, subsidised, 300ft windmills.

"Mr Marchant – who is also chairman of the Climate Change Business Delivery Group ..... "We have one wind- farm development that's been in the planning for five years"

Not exactly impartial then. Would the Scotsman ever provide coverage for somebody who saying they would like to cover Scotland's countryside with thousands of 300 ft blocks of flats? Even an independent economist not personally profting from it but just saying that it would, unlike windmills, massively improve the economy.
24

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/02/2008 10:41:38
danielrober, you may be better placed than me to know since I live on the otherside of the world. Are there any companies in Scotland developing new energy technologies?
25

Saoghal Beag,

23/02/2008 10:47:02
As regards wind farms the planning process is a bit of a distraction since wihtout the Beauly Denny upgrade there is no more capacity.

Rules, speaking sense. We need an overhaul of the scottish building standards. They should be brought up to a Scandic/Passiv Haus standard and not the ridiculous code for sustainable homes or ecohomes.
26

Jeeemy,

St Andrews 23/02/2008 10:47:26
“Ian Marchant, chief executive of Scottish and Southern Energy, speaking at a business conference in Holyrood yesterday, ridiculed the Scottish Government's aim of making Scotland the world's renewable energy capital.”
Ridicule is the hiding place of scoundrels, Ian Marchmant would like you and me to lay back and allow him and his like to drive roughshod across our countryside planting whatever he desires in the way of power generation plants.
The fact that planning has Laws is abhorrent to him; he is a business man who is responsible to his shareholders and himself, and just like the Politicians of this land “Use” and “Abuse” this country and its people for their own ends.
“Ian Marchant, who chairs the Climate Change Business Delivery Group, said his company reckons Scotland produces about 4% of its energy from renewable sources, and said Spain last year installed, in four months, the same wind power capacity that Scotland has put in place over 40 years”.
The above statement looks great on first sighing, but look at his own company’s web site to find the truth about his rants and the 4% he talks about; his way with figures reminds me of Wendy Alexander at FM questions her figures don’t add up either.
27

The Strategist,

23/02/2008 10:50:18
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/working_lunch/7259529.stm
28

danielrober,

23/02/2008 11:00:08
# 24 KampungHighlander,Jakarta

We are working on new technologies, hence the massive interest in investing in UK power generation at the moment. But this all takes money. Investing in an industry, with limited long term commercialoptions is simply not worth the effort. Oil, Gas, Nuclear and others offer a good future, along with renewables.

Planning needs to be changed, not bypassed. The 1970's and 1980's where hellish because we made too many rapid desicions in the 1950's and 1960's. No one likes the guy that says carm down, but thats what these guys do. Its a tough job and important.

Have a good time, on whatever job you are on.
29

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/02/2008 11:18:47
#28 Yes it does take money. That money is not going to come from the public sector. It will be capital deployed by unsentimental B@stards like myself who use dirty words like "Profit" in their decision making process. I understand your point about the hellish development in the past. Just look at Cumbernauld. Or even my Old Home Town of Greenock. Unfortunately most of these travesties where built with public funds. Maybe when it comes to Idiot Politicians development ideas a five year wait till the next election is good. But the private sector wont wait. Scotland needs a system that is rule based with reasonable time horizons for plans either to be approved or disapproved.
30

Derick fae Yell,

The Hoose built before Planning very nice but woul 23/02/2008 11:37:43
The Planning System was specifically set up to reserve the countryside for the better off. After the First World War, council housing began to appear on the outskirts of towns - ooooh nooo, Homes for Heroes (scruff). Result - The Council for the Protection of Rural England was set up to lobby for 'Green Belts' (ie to keep the scruff locked up in the towns). The Second World War experience of central planning, gve them their chance - et voila. The Town and Country Planning Act 1947.

At the moment, the 'Planning' system routinely delays affordable housing projects by 2-5 years, even where these projects are partnerships between councils and housing associations. It is impossible to describe the innumerable obstacles which the Planning, Roads Consent, Flood 'Risk' assessement processes place in the way of housing projects.

Without a MAJOR streamlining of the 'planning' (and associated) processes, there is NO POSSIBILTY that the increased rate of affordable housing completions suggested in 'Firm Foundations' will be achieved:

Not that Planning really matters as the change to site valuation methodology for affordable housing sites, imposed by Communities Scotland in November 2007, and the changes to the Housing Association Grant calculation methodology, to be imposed from April 2008, will stop the housing association affordable housing development programmed dead in its tracks.
Because of the lead in time, this means HA new build completions will fall to almost nothing, just before the next Holyrood election. It's doubtful if local authorities could restart their programmes in time to make up the gap, and many of them have too much debt to build at all.

QUESTION: Has Sir Humphrey set a housing trap for Stephen Maxwell?

re Planning

See "When We Build Again, Lets Have Housing That Works' by Colin Ward

and

"People and Planning by Norman Dennis"
review at
http://usj.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/7/3/316

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The Strategist,

23/02/2008 11:49:41
#28

There is actually very limited tech devt going on in Scotland. A few companies operating on a shoestring trying to develop tidal power systems and a couple - one of which is now German - working on wave tech. The latter got most of its investment from overseas and is now more active in Portugal than here.

In fuel cell tech there are two very small companies. There's one possibly two companies building domestic wind turbines but nobody working on solar.

There's now a small group working at Dundee Uni on new fuels, some work was going at St Andrews on hydrogen but that ran out of cash.



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Robbierunciman,

Romney Marsh 23/02/2008 12:08:52
I agree with comments about the planning system being sclerotic and also with the view that it is so because of the mistakes between 1950 and 1980. part of the problem in these times was a lack of democracy and the paternalistic attitude many in power had - would that be so now?
One innovation could be to stop lawyers getting involved?
33

Martyk,

23/02/2008 13:36:47
The company reffered to in the article as recently purchased by SSE was an Irish company called Airtricity. Including the US assets sold of seperately this company was sold for over £ 2 Billion. The guys who founded it have already founded another company based in Ireland in the same business with some major league backers. I actually did a little research into a Scots-Irish comparison in this area. Depressing. Why are they so energetic in wind , tidal and the rest? They have companies and research centres dedicated purely to wave power. A huge biodiesel plant going through planning hearings , oh , loads of things. All Scotland gets is targets and save the seagulls.
34

The Strategist,

23/02/2008 13:48:23
#33 Martyk

Because we don't have the major league backers. We have companies that could be major league backers but don't want to be.
35

MoragfraeEdinburgh,

Edinburgh 23/02/2008 14:55:05
Now Mr Marchant - exactly how do you expect the planning system to speed up, when companies are submitting absoluely crap planning applications, just like yours has done for the Pairc Estate, Isle of Lewis.

You kid on that you (and I mean SSE PLC) have green aspirations and associate yourselves with RSPB to up your environmental credentials (not!), and then.....

You go and apply to build a windfarm including 57 of the biggest onshore turbines in the UK in one of the countries top White-tailed Sea Eagle breeding areas. The catastrophic impact of windfarms on the Smola Sea Eagles is surely something you are aware of - if not I'm sure a quick google search will get you up to speed.

Not only this, but you don't even bother to do a proper bird survey. Further, even based on the incompetent rubbish that your company has submitted, your application admits that the Pairc windfarm will be the biggest Golden Eagle killer in the UK.

You also propose to run roads through valley mires, which are a priority protected habitat in Europe, and otherwise churn up rather a lot of blanket bog.

You didn't even bother to do a noise survey to establish what impact there would be on local residents, and some of the turbines were so close to homes as to be almost certainly in breach of the noise limits indicated in the planning guidelines.

In fact so bad was your application that even the windfarm adoring Western Isles Council, who have sold their souls to the industry, felt compelled to recommend that over 50% of your turbines should be removed because of the unacceptable impact on local residents. If they cared for the environment as much, the remainder whould have gone as well, but that is another matter.

And exactly how long has your Pairc application been occupying government and other agencies ? Isn't it now over 5 years ?

So please Mr Marchant, exactly what is it you are suggesting - that windfarm planning becomes a complete free for all and to hell with the pe
36

Neil,

Glasgow 23/02/2008 14:57:36
Good post Derick. The dichotomy between the "environmentalists" desire to keep human beings out of the country & fill the place up with 300 ft windmills is clear & shows they don't care a stuff for the environment, just for keeping the emergent peoples of Drumchapel poor.
37

Saoghal Beag,

23/02/2008 16:41:15
Neil the dichotomy that you percieve is due to your blinkered approach to what constiutes an environmentalists. You have and assumption that all environmentalists are sandle wearing, lentil eating conservations who paraphrase the RSPB philosophy of brids before all. It's a view of someone who does not understand his opposition.

It is widely accepted within the environmental professions that humans are as much part of the environment as any other organism. Something cleary described by Gro Brundtland. There is a realisation that environmental degradation and social degradation are intimately linked and often go hand in hand.

What Derick supports is the provision of affordable homes, that is reasonably priced and affordable to heat is as much part of solving environmental solutions as the more high profile campaigns. That the planning process is obstructing these and this is exacerbated by the new funding regime is as much an environmental failing of government as pandering to unsuitable developments in unsuitable locations.

It is about balance and reason and that is something that often falls out of the equation in the planning process.
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23/02/2008 19:05:09
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danielrober,

23/02/2008 19:47:17
# The Strategist

Very correct sir, but many of us in the technology development area grew up in the 1980's. As such we are use to been, shall we say ignored. So we wait and wait and wait.

The tide will turn, partculary when you consider how much these guys are spending on their projects. We just have to wait for all the flash harry's to become interested in some thing else. Hi guys ;->

There is a great deal of technology been developed accross Scotland, the UK and the EU. We are just quite, well i'm not, but others are.
40

The Strategist,

23/02/2008 20:26:11
#39 Danielrober

I love your optimism. However, I can assure you it won't happen. At least not without a major change out the people running our glorious financial services sector.
41

Martyk,

23/02/2008 21:09:15
35; See what I mean? Save the bloody seagulls.
42

Inside Story,

Glasgow 25/02/2008 13:14:48
#31

Not sure where you get your info from but Scotland is currently leading the world in the development of wave and tidal power. The European Marine Energy Centre on Orkney is the only wave and tidal test site in the world.
The leading wave power companies in the world are based in Edinburgh, Pelamis Wave Power(www.pelamiswave.com), and Inverness, Wavegen.
Along with AWS Ocean Energy, Aquamarine Power (SSE), Lunar Energy (Rotech in Aberdeen)and Scotrenewables they form the core of our Marine Energy companies.
Not to mention that other UK and overseas companies are coming to Scotland to test, and in most cases build, their marine energy devices - OpenHydro, Tidal Generation, SMD Hydrovision, Ocean Power Technologies and Tidal Delay to name just a few.

Scotland is a world leader in deepwater offshore wind with the only two 5MW offshore wind turbines deployed anywhere in the world at the Beatice field 12 miles off the East Coast.
Who built it? SSE and Talisman Energy from Aberdeen. Our oil and gas experinece is second to none and is assisting the development of offshore renewables.

No investment from majors? What about Scottish & Southern themselves and their investment not only in Airtricity (£1.2Bn) but in wave and tidal power? Iberdrola (ScottishPower)deploying the largest wave farm in the world next year in Orkney? E.On's £70m biomass power station in Lockerbie?
INEOS' planned £68m biodiesel plant at Grangemouth.

Our ambition is hampered by lack of grid infrastructure at the outer edges where the renewable resource is to be found. If we do not accelerate the building of this infrastructure then we will miss the boat and countries like Portugal and Spain will develop the wave market as they already have the coastal grid network. Even England and Wales will pull ahead due to the offshore grid connections that will be developed for offshore wind over the next 5 years. We do not have the time to have such projects take 3-4 years to pass through the p

 

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