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Published Date:
30 October 2007
CHRIS Hunter is autistic. He is not a criminal, yet he is regularly stopped by police.
Speaking to strangers is difficult, even traumatic for Mr Hunter, but his evasiveness often brings him to the attention of officers who suspect him of criminal intent.

He is not alone in this experience - now so commonplace a special identification card has been launched by Strathclyde Police, enabling autistic people easily to explain their behaviour when stopped.

It is just another hurdle, exposed in a series of articles by The Scotsman, faced by the growing numbers of people diagnosed with the condition.

Mr Hunter, 21, from Govan in Glasgow, said: "The police stop me and ask me if I am on drugs or if I have been drinking, because they think I walk past people funny.

"I just tell them I've been playing on my computer for too long and needed to get some fresh air. It's very frustrating."

His mother, Ann, said: "He spends a lot of time on his computer so he likes to go out about 10pm for a walk around the block. They ask him where he's going and what he's got in his pockets.

"He comes in raging that he's the only person in the street who gets stopped."

Mr Hunter believes the identification card issued by Strathclyde Police would help him explain to officers, who are trained to make eye contact, that many people with autism dislike direct gaze and can feel stressed or threatened by strangers.

People with more severe autism may be unable to respond verbally and can become noisy or agitated if asked to deviate from their regular routine.

To counteract the problem Mr Hunter has been improving his communication skills through a social group organised by the National Autistic Society Scotland (NAS).

The group has become his lifeline to the world after a major setback when he was forced to drop out of college because lecturers suspected he might be autistic.

He said: "I loved doing economics and I felt angry and frustrated because they could have discovered my autism at high school or primary school, not in the middle of a course."

The blow saw him retreat into himself, shunning social situations and rarely leaving home.

He said: "I liked the computer and watching DVDs and that was it. But in the group I have friends I can talk to. They are the same as me and they understand what I am going through.

"Other people say they know but they just don't understand - I find that very frustrating.

"Now, I can actually talk to other people, although it is still quite hard."

The group of under-30s meet monthly for activities such as pool, speed-boat trips, visits to a climbing wall or meals out.

Mr Hunter said: "I enjoy it. I think it is important because I have got more confidence and I can talk to a lot more people."

He has a groundskeeping job at a hotel in Renfrew but would like to return to study.

He said: "Eventually, yes, but the social group is very important because I can go out and have a life instead of being stuck in the house twiddling my thumbs."

Sandra Buckley , social programmes manager for the National Autistic Society Scotland, said: "I cannot believe how different this boy is.

"When I met him 18 months ago he wouldn't make eye contact, and he certainly wouldn't chat with you. It has given him confidence."

His mother added: "He's gone from being a wee quiet boy to going out and talking to people. I just wish the group was more often than once a month."

The social programme has been running for two years and has groups in Glasgow, Dundee, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Inverness.

Ms Buckley said: "Social groups are for people over the age of 16 who have high- functioning autism or Asperger syndrome, or those currently seeking a diagnosis. Membership is free but they are responsible for making their own travel arrangements.

"It can be a lifeline for many people as it can be their only social interaction each month.

"The social group can be their first step to gaining independence - it gives them confidence, helps them develop independent travel skills, and creates chances to get out and socialise.

"It also gives parents a chance to relax."

She supports the identification card and hopes other forces will follow Strathclyde's lead.

She said: "I would be happy to talk to any police force.

"People with autism are seven times more likely to come into contact with the criminal justice system as a witness or a suspect because they are seen to be acting differently.

"I encourage all my members to have these identification cards so if they cannot explain how they feel, they can show the cards."

The NAS launched a campaign this week urging people to "think differently" about autism and to raise £7 million in five years to enable them to continue to support people with autism.

Just £39 could pay for someone like Mr Hunter to be part of a social group for a year, which may be their only social interaction from month to month.

All the money raised by Scotsman readers will help fund NAS Scotland services and programmes such as this one.

Log on to www.justgiving .com/scotsmanthinkdifferently and make a donation, to help make a positive difference to even more people living with autism.

Study pinpoints police problem


RESEARCH in the United States found that people on the autistic spectrum were seven times more likely to become involved in the criminal justice system.

The report created by the US Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services discovered lack of awareness often caused police officers to mistake as impudence autistic traits such as echolalia - the need to repeat a question to understand it.

Similar extensive research has yet to be conducted in the UK but police and autism charities believe suffers often become victims of crime because of their lack of social awareness.

They can also become innocent suspects because their unusual behaviour, such as an inability to understand indirect questions and unwillingness to make eye-contact, which can be misconstrued as suspicious.

To tackle the problem, police in Strathclyde created training materials for all officers, and worked with the National Autistic Society Scotland (NAS) offering identification cards people can show to explain their behaviour if they are stopped .

Councillor Paul Rooney, Convener of the Strathclyde Joint Police Board, said: "It is a sad fact that people with autism deal with the police more often than the rest of the public.

"But through the availability of the alert card and greater awareness among police officers we help can minimise any upset and difficulty they may experience."

Inspector Roddy Newbigging works in the criminal justice unit at Strathclyde Police.

He served on an autism working group created with NAS Scotland in Glasgow to tackle the growing problem. He said that with an estimated one in 100 people in Scotland being autistic, he expects they will increasingly come more to the attention of officers.

He said: "If people exhibit unusual behaviour it is likely that someone with autistic spectrum disorder would attract attention to themselves or become a victim," Insp Newbigging said.

HOW YOU CAN HELP


YOU can help the National Autistic Society with its bid to raise £7 million in five years.

Why not challenge yourself to raise £1,000? You can raise it however you wish, perhaps with sponsored events, jumble sales or car boot sales, and there's no time limit. Sign up as an individual or with a group of friends and help NAS Scotland to support even more people living with autism.

The charity is appealing specifically to The Scotsman readers for their help.

As well as raising money yourself, you can sign up to a petition calling on the government to act.

Just £1,000 could allow NAS Scotland to train a volunteer with the Advocacy for Education Service, on education law, rights and entitlements.

That person could offer four hours of support to parents each week, helping to empower them to obtain the best education for their child.

All the money raised by readers of The Scotsman will help fund such NAS Scotland services and programmes.

If you make a donation, you know that your help will make a positive difference to even more people living with autism.

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  • Last Updated: 30 October 2007 12:41 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Autism , Autism campaign
 
1

Boy Wonder,

30/10/2007 07:46:35

Unfortunately, when the cops stop you in the street for any reason, their attitude is always that you are a criminal in their eyes and therefore not worthy of being treated with any form of respect! You've been huckled and they let you know it, regardless of your possible innocence! I cannot blame Mr Hunter for the rage they cops instill in him.

While some form of card (like diabetics on insulin carry) might be of some help to this young man, a better idea would be a sea-change in the behaviour of the cops in dealing with the public.

There is a myth in this country that your are presumed innocent until proven guilty. That's not how the cops behave. To them your presumed guilty until YOU can prove your innocent. I've heard that story too often to dismiss it lightly. And I've unfortunately had that experience with them myself ... twice. And cops don't say sorry when they're proven wrong. It's not in their training manual!

I completely understand Mr Hunter's frustrations!

2

Stephen101,

Go for the easy touch 30/10/2007 08:13:49

Typical police. They will go for the easy touch. Young bloke who is on his own, vulnerable. PC plods will be on him like a shot showing how tough they are.

Ask them to deal with a group of neds, or a punch up in a pub. They will slow their arrival until things are finished and then they stroll in.

This applies to all parts of our police forces. You just have to look at chasing fraud. They nab the wee guys and the big boys stroll the streets. Or is that cos there's maybe a bung in it?

3

Robb,

30/10/2007 08:40:58

It's all very well to issue cards, but it probably wouldn't be too long before criminals get their hands on them to try to avoid being arrested. The same kind of people (you know, the lazy b******s who take parking spaces from genuine disabled people) who abuse the disability parking permits would use these cards, and soon it would be difficult to tell who has a genuine condition and who is just the scum who have aquired them to pretend that they have autism.

4

Dr. James Wilkie,

30/10/2007 08:47:25

I suppose I must look permanently suspicious because, being congenitally three quarters deaf, I have from earliest childhood looked people in the mouth instead of the eyes, in order to lip read. I went through the entire school and higher education system without this being discovered. No doubt it would not happen now, but it still underlines the necessity of every primary school pupil being screened for autism, deafness and other problems.

5

Equal Rights for Autism,

Ayrshire 30/10/2007 08:52:27

Whilst the idea of a card, in the form of a medical alert card, to help people with Autistic Spectrum Disorders identify their `invisible` disability to others may seem, on the surface, to be a good one, I would like to know if this card is as described in the following article from the Welsh media, where it is linked to a computerised database and obviously contains an RFID chip:-

http://www.newswales.co.uk/?section=Health&F=1&id...

The danger of such a scheme is illustrated by this article from the Sunday Herald, which reveals that Westminster wants to use entitlement cards for disabled and elderly people to concessionary travel - bus passes, in other words - as full ID cards. These cards are ready equipped to carry a whole host of information about an individual:-

http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.1...
- Plan to ‘hijack’ bus passes as ID cards
A CROSS-BORDER spat erupted last night over new Home Office plans for compulsory ID cards in Scotland.
The Sunday Herald can reveal that the UK government is considering fast-tracking the project by using the micro-chipped bus passes held by more than a million Scots. Whitehall officials have set up a working group which will look at how to piggyback the National Identity Register (NIR) on to the Executive's entitlement card scheme.
Last night the Scottish government claimed it had been excluded from crucial discussions and warned that any data-grab attempt would be illegal.
Around one in four Scots already own one of the smartcards, currently used only for concessionary fares and access to leisure services. But Home Office interest was sparked by a report which suggested the passes could "deliver the government's goa

6

Equal Rights for Autism,

Ayrshire 30/10/2007 09:01:11

I was not able to fit into the post above that I am grateful to Guy Herbert of NO2ID for passing on to me the news article from the Welsh press.

You can, of course, go to NO2ID's website for further information on the Westminster government's plans for identity registers, databases and ID cards:-

http://www.no2id.net/

It's an excellent resource, as is the Autism Rights Briefing Paper:-

http://www.autismrights.org.uk/BriefingPaperIndex.html

- particularly the weblinked references on the identity register /database:-

http://www.autismrights.org.uk/IdentityRegister.html

7

Stephen101,

Get an education 30/10/2007 09:20:50

Wini

Nice to know you can read the Wikipedia entry, but please do not assume it makes you an expert.

I would suggest you go and try to get an education, I think it would help you.

Regarding uneducated but opinionated people like yourself I would use your words "It is not us that need to change our attitude towards them, it is they that need to change their attitude towards us, and those that seek to protect them are not helping them at all."

So wake up Wini, open your mind and we will all help you get there. It will be better than where you are at present.

8

AG,

Scotland 30/10/2007 09:28:31

#7. You miss the point. Reading a definition of the condition is virtually meaningless until you have lived with it or with family with it. These articles are trying to help build awareness which is helpful. They are not excusing anti-social behaviour. The comments in your last paragraph manifest the heart of the problem for both sides. Both sides need awareness and both sides need to work on it.

9

McMicrogal,

30/10/2007 09:59:48

#7 your comments suggest that in your opinion such people actually have a choice in their behaviour.

WRONG WRONG WRONG

You chose to say what you did and have been thoroughly offensive - well done )c:

10

Fay fae Scotland,

Dunfermline 30/10/2007 10:10:14

I think there is a difficult balance to reach here.

If the police didn't stop someone walking about at night looking "shifty" and it did turn out to be a criminal then they'd be criticised for that. But they stop someone who turns out to be autistic and they are uncompassionate. They can't win.

I think some sort of card might be helpful to autistic people, and it seems this is already available. But it could easilly be open to abuse, like Robb (#4) says.

It certainly should not be a "get out of jail free" card. Just because someone's autistic doesn't mean they are incapable of commiting a crime. The police do have a duty to protect and if that means stopping people in the street to ask what they're up to, I think that is what they must do.

Like I said, difficult to get the right balance, but it is good to see this issue brought to the attention of people and hopefully will create a bit more understanding in our society.

11

Meths Rides Again™,

30/10/2007 11:32:04

I have so much I'd like to say on this interesting article, but don't really know how to structure it. The main thrust is that I hope Mr Hunter and others who have similar conditions are treated better by society. Sad to say, I'd probably cross the street if I saw someone behaving unusually, but that is my own learned response.

Perhaps the best we can hope for is better training and 'customer service' from the Police, as they will inevitably stop this chap again and again. The only consolation is they may eventually get to know him, and perhaps even look out for him, for his own safety.

12

Paula,

30/10/2007 12:12:02

Hmmm, introducing ID cards by aiming at the most vunerable in society. Shows the lack of compassion in the police as someone already said, go after one person by themselves because they are too scared to go after the gangs of neds.

Which other regime was it who picked on the disabled first?

13

Iain's,

30/10/2007 12:39:06

The Metropolitan police are notorious for stopping people they refer to as´'nutters' and pushing them around. This results in their victim raising a hand to protect himself or herself, arrest, trial and a criminal conviction for 'affray'.
Why do they do it? It increases their arrest rates and so they get bigger Christmas bonuses. It also isless risky than dealing with real criminals.

I congratulate Strathclyde police on their mature and sensible action. I hope other forces follow the lead.

14

Anna,

somewhere 30/10/2007 12:46:32

I read this article with great interest, as between the ages of 15 and 17 I was (for want of a better word) "stalked" by a school classmate with an autistic spectrum disorder, which his parents seemed unwilling to acknowledge or do anything about.

It was a pretty horrific time for me as the boy would literally follow me everywhere and was repeatedly found in my garden in the middle of the night by my dad, who he was not little one bit scared of! He once ran away from home and was found the next morning in the woods that I walked through to get to school, waiting for me. I eventually had to go to the police when the boy eventually got the courage to aggressively confront me as to why "I was trying to hurt him", and also had a go at my boyfriend.

I knew that this behaviour was due to his autism, but that didn't make it any easier for me at the time. If this had happened now, I wouldn't like to think that the police would be unable to deal with a problem like this, just because the boy had had an ID card.

I realise what happened to me is an isolated incident, which I blame largely on the boy's parents for their lack of intervention, but some autistic people are obviously still capable of intimidating others and should definitely not be entirely immune.

15

charlotte,

edinburgh 30/10/2007 13:02:23

anna ... you say you read this article in great interest , do you think you could also look at the national autistic society website with the same flipping interest ? how old are you 12 ?
autistic people have trouble expressing themselves and life is hard for them , i think he merely just liked you , and was trying to be your friend , also this story is not about your experience with an DISABLED person , this is about the SOCIETY assuming this man is drunk or hugh , autism and aspergers are incurable and our "world" is very confusing to someone on the autistic spectrum .
i have a autistic child and i would gladly accept a id card stating he had autism that way when mindless people stare they would feel as bad as he does when they stare at him.

16

fluffmeister,

Livingston 30/10/2007 13:08:45

#7 Wini

You are quite simply an idiot with a lack of empathy that exceeds that of most people of the spectrum.

17

Anna,

somewhere 30/10/2007 13:21:13

Charlotte,

Please do not patronise me. I did a great deal of reading about autism at the time when this was happening to me, and understood that this boy's behaviour was not his fault. I know life is hard for them, and I would recommend any measures to raise awareness of autism. However, if you are seriously suggesting that a 15 year old girl should not be disturbed by someone following them around all the time (and I mean ALL THE TIME) then I am afraid you are wrong.

All I was suggesting is that just because someone is autistic does not mean they are one hundred percent incapable of committing a crime. If anyone misunderstood me and thought I was showing a lack of sympathy and understanding, I apologise.

18

Paul R,

30/10/2007 13:44:42

#23 "just because someone is autistic does not mean they are one hundred percent incapable of committing a crime"

That is a very fair point.

19

Helen,

30/10/2007 14:13:28

I don't think this is about people committing crimes. As the young man featured in the article explained, he is stopped because the police think he 'walks past people funny'. He has difficulty with eye contact as many autistic people do, and may possibly react in a way the police would construe as inappropriate simply because they are - as he sees it - staring at him.
Sometimes people with learning disabilities may commit crimes, but more often than not, they find themselves in problems because of their communication difficulties. The police could definitely be a bit more sensitive towards people with learning disabilities, and recognise that their own behaviour may be seen as strange or threatening.
Autism and associated disorders can lead to loneliness, so hopefully this card can allow people to lead something resembling 'ordinary' lives and get out doing things they enjoy doing.

20

LeaUSA,

North Carolina, USA 30/10/2007 18:07:39

We are experiencing some of the same types of confrontations here in the US. We are seeing more and more cases of autism and more and more misunderstandings about this condition. Most people are uninformed to what this condition is and how to deal with people who have ASD.

I am a parent of a daughter (9 years old), who has Autistic Syndrome Disorder (ASD). Fortunately she is verbal and high-functioning. One thing that I have noticed is that people with ASD (I interact with people in the spectrum of many ages), is that they are very coachable and susceptible to harmful exterior situations.

I think that the card would be somewhat helpful, but I also wonder at the same time, could it make them possible targets for criminals and predators. Most of the children/adults that I know with autism don’t necessarily appear to have any difficulty in situations that we as “ordinary” people take for granted and if put in a vulnerable position our citizens with autism may fall prey to cons and swindles…just a thought.

I also know that law enforcement officers in the US can be a bit aggressive without provocation. Are they that way in Scotland? Many people here are profiled and targeted because of ethnicity and other factors.

Sometimes I think about a young man in Virginia (USA), in the 1980’s who had a seizure (he was epileptic) in a fast food restaurant. He was black and acting strangely (a seizure will do that) but not hurting anyone, he had fallen to the floor and was kicking and gagging…the officers assumed that he was on drugs and when he didn’t respond to their numerous commands…they shot him in the leg. It was hideous and sad. These are the things that parents and friends and families of people with ASD (and many other non-traditional disorders) worry about.

The misinformation and the high volume of people being diagnosed with autism are alarming. Our society has to understand how this affects all people directly or indirectly. There was a

21

Hugo, Ayrshire,

30/10/2007 20:50:09

Most posters seem to be missing the point.

If someone is behaving 'oddly' then it is reasonable for the police to stop them for questioning.

It is at this point that the problem, and possible solutions, begin.


 

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