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Obama on tour to prove he is a man of the world



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Published Date: 23 July 2008
BARACK Obama arrives in Europe later this week, carrying the hopes of the continent on his shoulders.
The crowds expected to turn out to meet him in Germany, France and the UK are unprecedented for an American presidential candidate, and one who is by no means certain to triumph in November.

Beginning tomorrow at a rally at Berlin's Tempelhof airport, he moves on to Paris the next day before arriving in London on Saturday, to meet Gordon Brown and David Cameron for the final date of his eight-nation tour.

The order of his European visit is important, as is the list of countries he is missing out – a left-wing Spanish government and the morally dubious Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, are seen as undesirable photo opportunities.

The highlight will be his speech at Tempelhof, chosen after Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, said it would be unseemly for a man who is still just a candidate to stand before the Berlin Wall, where former US presidents John F Kennedy and Ronald Reagan made famous speeches.

But the airport has its own significance, as the site of the Berlin airlift when western Europe, led by the United States, kept open a supply corridor to the city after the Soviet Union closed the border.

By appearing here, Mr Obama hopes to convey to Europeans that he stands for a new, listening US to replace the go-it-alone policy of the current Bush administration.

"Americans don't feel proud, they are worried about America's standing in the world," says Marc Ambinder, a columnist with the monthly magazine Atlantic.

"Obama's trying to say, 'I'm the president who is going to make you proud of being American'."

It is a message that Europeans want to hear. In popularity polls across the continent he beats not just his rival, John McCain, but most of Europe's own politicians.

The reasons are not hard to find; with powers such as China and Russia viewed by many Europeans as potential enemies, the return of a benign Uncle Sam to offer protection is gratefully accepted.

Given Europe's troubled history with its own minorities, Obamamania may be an expedient way for some Europeans to convince themselves they are racially tolerant while brushing aside ethnic tensions at home.

"It's a vicarious thrill," said Reginald Dale, a senior fellow at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies' Europe programme. "After they've switched off their TV screens they're not going to find a black candidate to put forward to lead their own country."

Mr Obama has been careful to hit all the right notes with his European fans: In place of the Bush administration's sabre- rattling rhetoric on Iran's nuclear programme, he promises talks "without preconditions".

And his campaign has been a strong backer of climate-change legislation, offering the hope that the US will support agreements that limit greenhouse gases.

Mr Obama's campaign staff hope that they can take advantage of the "two Americas" that exist in the minds of Europeans. One is the bullying self-confident champion of big business, identified by many with George Bush, and the other a country priding itself on the rule of law, on its generosity and its dynamism.

But the real purpose of the trip remains that of impressing audiences back home. Polls in the US show his gap with Mr McCain narrowing to anything between zero and four points.

And Mr McCain gets higher scores among independent voters when asked who they trust on foreign policy.

"He wants to burnish his image as knowing something about foreign affairs," said Bill McPherson, a Washington journalist. "He's supposed to be weak about foreign affairs.

"It will contrast dramatically with Bush's reception."

Yet Mr Obama may be raising expectations to unrealistic levels. His message of "change" offers the hope of combining the left and right of politics, compassion with the "personal responsibility". The danger is that instead of spanning the left-right divide, he will fall through the gap.

Back home, the recession and ballooning national debt mean that the spending promises he and Mr McCain are now tossing out will be hard to realise.

But abroad, multi-lateralism is an easier promise to follow-through on.

As to who among the Europeans stands to gain the most were Mr Obama to get to the White House, opinion is divided. The fact that his major speech takes place in Germany leads many to think that an Obama White House will be looking to the Franco-German axis as its chief ally in Europe. But others think that Britain, despite following Mr Bush into a war that Mr Obama opposed, will be an early recipient of the US's desire to reach out to the world.

"Berlin has the attention, but it will be much more important to restore the primacy of the Anglo-American relationship," said Mr Ambinder. "Obama will go out of his way to cement the Anglo-American relationship."

BACKGROUND

ON 26 JUNE, 1963, President John F Kennedy gave a speech in West Berlin in which he declared "Ich bin ein Berliner" – "I am a Berliner", in a powerful demonstration of American support for the country following the erection of the Berlin Wall as a barrier to prevent movement between East and West.

There are commemorative sites to Kennedy in Berlin, such as the John F Kennedy German-American School and the John F Kennedy Institute for North American Studies at the Free University of Berlin. Also, the public square in front of the Rathaus Schöneberg – where Kennedy made the famous speech – has been named John-F-Kennedy-Platz and there is a small plaque dedicated to Kennedy near the entrance of the building.

As such, Mr Obama's choice of Templehof Airport for a visit and also his intention to give a major speech in Berlin itself are loaded with historical significance.

It is already rumoured that his campaign team intends to use footage of the Berlin speech in election adverts.

If it's the morning … it must be Iraq

YESTERDAY morning was Iraq, Jordan the afternoon and Israel last night. France, Germany and Britain lie ahead. Barrack Obama's brief international tour is nothing if not hectic.

He even found time to speak to soldiers of 4th Battalion, the Royal Regiment of Scotland, deployed to Basra.

But for someone who is not even president, by and large those receiving him all hold rank more in keeping with a visit from the US Commander-in-Chief. From King Abdullah of Jordan to the Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, and the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, important figures in the Middle East peace process were more than pleased to receive him.

Now it's the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, the French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, Britain's Gordon Brown and even David Cameron – all keen for some of that Obama star power to rub off.

The stately nature of the trip has made Mr Obama's own people a little defensive. Asked about the nature of the speech he will give in Germany, a senior foreign-policy adviser said: "He is going to talk about the issues as an individual… not a candidate."

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1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 23/07/2008 00:09:44

Better he watch, he don't become a "man of the grave"
2

indune1,

Canada 23/07/2008 00:29:42

No Charles. Better you watch.

The man is about to morph into a carefully choreographed puppet now that he is the presumptive Democrative nominee.

However, the only Democratic nominees who had less int'l affairs experience than he has and were considered a fair bet to win the presidency, were JFK and Jimmy (I don't want to set the world on fire. I just want to keep my nuts warm!) Carter.
3

mike - across the pond,

really fascinating..... 23/07/2008 01:13:10
""Americans don't feel proud, they are worried about America's standing in the world," says Marc Ambinder..."

really??? hmmm the last time I was not "proud" to be an american was when SlickWillie got in front of the camera with his "that woman" denial....
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"Given Europe's troubled history with its own minorities, Obamamania may be an expedient way for some Europeans to convince themselves they are racially tolerant while brushing aside ethnic tensions at home."

really??? I can understand that... why dont you elect him for your own... he'll be looking for a job in mid-November....
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"And his campaign has been a strong backer of climate-change legislation, offering the hope that the US will support agreements that limit greenhouse gases."

a strong backer of garbage science? of the environmental, economic, AND geo-political varieties... JUST what we want in charge...
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"But the real purpose of the trip remains that of impressing audiences back home. Polls in the US show his gap with Mr McCain narrowing to anything between zero and four points."

and this doesnt take into account the 7-10 point overstatement of the polls vs actual ballot box results...
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reminds me of a joke told 4 years ago...
the crocuses are in bloom, an old man walks up to a Marine on sentry duty at the Whitehouse and asks if he can see President Obama....

the Marine states "Sir, Mr Obama lost the election last fall, the President is John McCain"

every day for a week, the old man approaches the Marine and they go through the same ritual...

finally the Marine asks the old man if he remembers yesterdays answer...

"Yes I do, very well sir," the old man replies "it just brightens my day to hear you say 'the President is John McCain'"
4

Scullion,

Canada 23/07/2008 02:12:42
#3 continued...and that old man was John McCain.
He's too old, too dim, too bad tempered, too one dimensional (gasp) and a host of other "toos" to make him a credible candidate.
America, try the side of youth and change. It will do you all good.





































5

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/07/2008 02:19:32
If the media hasn't pushed Obama in our faces for the lst g-d knows how long, then we would see has said NOTHING.
They are still doing this rock star tour, and he hasn't changed his mind on anything. He has yet to admit the surge worked, and he was wrong. It was not a catastrophe, and the violence has come way down. Who does he give cred to? Of course the troops, the Sunnis and the militias..nothing to Petraeus, nothing to McCain. The coverage he gets is much more than McCain, and come October, folks are going to wake up and say Whoa, what does this man stand for? And then people will have to make a choice.
6

mike - across the pond,

scullion 23/07/2008 02:30:59
even the Scotsman says BO's lead is ZERO to 4 points IN THE POLLS....

you glibly ignored the FACT that historically BO runs SEVEN TO TEN points ahead in the polls from his actual returns at the ballot box....

if your "man of the youth"... is so great, WHY does he RUN from debating McCain?

does the phrase CHICKEN EXCREMENT adequately discribe your BOy?

McCain challenged him to TEN debates... BO countered with ONE, take it or leave it... and that one was of the mind numbing hour and a half long speach variety... NO rebuttal, and McCain had to go first...

I seriously doubt that even YOU could sit through an hour and a half of BO's kool-aid....

I mean WTF?
7

indune1,

Canada 23/07/2008 02:44:25
6 - Mike well said.

Scully - as usual you fail to declare your left-wing liberal ties.

Please try to dig beneath the veneer of Obama. It might do you some good.
8

billengland,

23/07/2008 07:40:50
MacCain, Obama, does it really matter?

They are both marionettes with the hijackers of the USA pulling the strings, and the Middle East occupation will continue.

Mission accomplished in Palestine,Iraq and Afghanistan, next phase coming soon.
9

Boy Wonder,

23/07/2008 07:42:13
I do not want another Republican in the White House. Please let McCain be the one to cash in his chips!

You may not like Barack Obama ... but rather him than a Bush-clone.

Hillary's probably planning his assassination right now anyway!
10

bluehead,

edinburgh 23/07/2008 08:35:09
man of what world?he looks like a loser to me,
to see what has been put up as candidates is amazing,
I wouldn't give an old penny for the lot of them,
they'll need to dig up George Washington if the want any improvement there.
11

Porry,

The Continent 23/07/2008 10:17:27
"The reasons are not hard to find; with powers such as China and Russia viewed by many Europeans as potential enemies, the return of a benign Uncle Sam to offer protection is gratefully accepted."

This seems to be wishful thinking. Uncle Sam has not returned "to offer protection", but by approaching the Poles and the Czechs presently tries to interfere with European security interests. Does this reflect the same kind of egoism and naivety that makes Senator Obama think it is quite natural for a candidate in the American presidential race to speak in front of the Brandenburg Gate and next to the German Parliament in Berlin? How would Uncle Sam react if David Cameron were tactless enough to try and rally in front of the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C.?



12

Harry "Dingy" Reid,

Las Vegas 23/07/2008 10:53:19
Just wait until October/November when the love sick media will be forced to talk about the gay choir director that Barack Obama was having an affair with that was killed under mysterious circumstances prior to Obama announcing he was running for President.
13

Neil,

Glasgow 23/07/2008 11:11:59
Since the Scotsman isn't allowing comments on the Karadzic show trial lets just agree that the evidence against almost all US politicians (with the possible exception of Obama) is infinitely stronger than that which judges bought & paid for by NATO will use to convict Karadzic.

Personally I believe in the death penalty for war criminals but it should only apply to the guilty.
14

Number 6,

Germany 23/07/2008 11:34:35
I see Americans still wittering on about "No foreign policy experience". 2 words, George Bush. This a man who had hardly set foot out of Texas, who thought Wales was in America, Kosovars were called Kosovians and Greeks called Grecians. Who led you immediatley into 2 wars, wars that have brought America to it's knees Did you learn from this mistake ? hell no, YOU VOTED HIM IN AGAIN.

Can't you see how pathetic you look to the rest of the world ?. You can ignore reality but the rest of us don't. No, you just can't face the thought of being led by someone who is not totally white. Hence the reason you all hang on to this pathetic "No foreign policy experience". What about McCain's admission that he is "Not an economics kind of guy" ?.How extrordinary that such a dreadful figure, with such an appalling record in everything, should now be in the running (Though not at his age),
for position of "Commander in Chief".
15

Silence of the Yams,

23/07/2008 12:55:59
Obama, community organiser, McCainn twenty year POW, lol some choice! Obama isn't even a natural born US citizen and should be thrown off the DNC ticket.
16

Number 6,

Germany 23/07/2008 13:11:02
#15 try spelling the names right . 20 year pow ??????
this is the level of ignorance that Obama has to contend with. I take it your one of the 12% of red-necks who insist the man is a muslim?
Crass stupidity and racism on a mass scale.
17

Berlin winner,

berlin 23/07/2008 13:17:45
SENATOR BARACK OBAMA WILL HAVE A SPEECH AT THE SIEGESAULE MONUMENT IN BERLIN FACING THE BRANDENBURGER TOR MONUMENT AT 19 hOURS BERLIN LOCAL TIME
18

Number 6,

Germany 23/07/2008 13:47:17
Excellent ! I would love to have seen him giving a speech in the Olympic stadium in Berlin. This was were
Hitler had to sit and watch Jessie owens fly like the wind.

Great to see the New york times rejecting McCain's latest op-ed. They are clearly sick and humiliated at the way the US media is ridiculed throughout the world for the garbage it lets into print.

McCains rambilings about having "Won " in Iraq were just too much this time. A great moment for America.
19

Silence of the Yams,

23/07/2008 13:47:41
16. So the majority of whites that suport McCain are 'red necks' are they? I assume you are from the former East Germany and are still pining for Stalinist rule? Red peasant that you are!
20

celtic4,

USA 23/07/2008 13:51:21
#14, America is NOT on its knees! And BO is a loser. It isn't because he's not 100% white, it is because he is all just veneer and has no substance. What foreign government would not welcome a puppet? A mealy mouthed know-it-all who promises the whole world but can actually deliver nothing? He is a joke and I hope he does NOT win. I cannot stand two faced people and he is one. Big time.
21

Number 6,

Germany 23/07/2008 13:59:20
# 19 No the majority of whites that "support" McCain are not rednecks. Just the majority of the 12% who think he is a Muslim. Not from the former East at all . Doubt anyone EVER pined for Stalinist rule.

Bit early in the day to be drunk don't you think.
22

Number 6,

Germany 23/07/2008 14:02:28
#20 your country is on it's knees no matter how you look at it, and going down further I might add. You can barely control your hate for the man.

So what do you think of McCain ?.
Were you even aware his latest op-ed has been rejected ?
How humiliating is that ?. I would rather have a know it all in charge than a know nothing.
23

Laurette,

23/07/2008 14:47:55
Lynne: Thank the Lord we will have a choice. At least Obama doesn't need Lieberman or Graham whispering in his ear when he gets confused over Sunnis and Shites, the borders between Iraq and Pakistan and Countries that he still thinks exist. He is an old tired man whose senility shows everytime he opens his mouth. On the other hand, Bob Barr seems to be gaining as an option - he might just do your boy in. I'll have to see what his views on privatizing Social Security are since your boy is slavering at the thought of Wall Street (Ala Phil Gramm) getting control of it. That's the Phil Gramm that your boy distanced himself from on Friday only to flip flop on Monday and welcome him back into the fold.
24

Laurette,

Carlsbad, California 23/07/2008 14:55:03
#12 I see you're still at it with your pathetic attempt to smear BO. Don't you know that you're supposed to wait until a few days before the election so that the candidate doesn't have a chance to rebut the charge? You're a bit early. You should really be putting the tabloids on to this - might make yourelf a bit of money.
25

Number 6,

Germany 23/07/2008 14:59:49
#23 Wow a voice of clarity.Isin't it incredible that someone like Gramm is hiding in McCain's shadow. This is a major leauge criminal were talking about,then again McCain knows all about the criminal world.

This is the "man" who as a US senator, send the head of a Mafia Crime family a telegram on his birthday,
apologising for not being able to attend. This according to the Arizona Press.

And that was frightning to listen to his complete ignorance of Eastern Europe AND the middle East.
And this is Mr "Foreign Policy Experience". Quite sad really. Is he really the best the republicans could come up with?
or did he fit the Bush template so well they couldn't help themselves ?
26

Laurette,

23/07/2008 15:05:27
#3 The last time I was less proud was seeing the statistics from the Iraqi "War".4000 Troops dead,thousands injured for life - thousands of Innocent Iraqis dead and displaced from their Country and you pick on Slick Willies sex life.
27

Sandi,

San Diego 23/07/2008 15:15:33
Let's not forget, that Obama is NOT the Democratic Party nominee yet. If the polling keeps going the way it is, into the toilet for Obama, then even the bullied and threatened superdelegates might wise up and vote for the candidate who can do the job best.

He does not represent the US, he doesn't even represent half of the Democratic party.

When has an American political candidate ever given a political speech (hope the teleprompter works!) in a foreign country? This guy is clueless. He doesn't have an original idea, he can't reply coherently to unscripted questions and so his campaign emails him a list of possible questions and the "correct" answers every morning. And yet, even with his 300 foreign policy advisors, he still screws up. Israel supports Israel? Apparently he can't think and speak at the same time.

Who can imagine what he's promisisng all these leaders now, even though he's in no position to promise a single thing.
28

Number 6,

Germany 23/07/2008 15:35:11
#27 What an amazing outlook you have. The reason soon to be president Obama is giving speeches abroad is because he also wants to capture the American overseas vote. Over 25% of them live in Israel alone. Germany and the UK also have many Americans, hence his visits.

He is also helping to reassure the World that America is not lost to the international community forever and that you can emerge from the Cheney/Rove/Gates nightmare that you are currently living in.

Trying to tar him with the failings of McCain no longer works, except with people like you. Pathetic to attack his oratory skills or ability to speak. Again an old tried and tested method, inspired by Cheney. It calls for attacking the opponent at his strong points.
You can be read like a book, and, apparently, led like a donkey. Example :

Obama Muslim or Christian ?

Sad to see the level of ignorance among republicans here.
29

Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi,

San Francisco 23/07/2008 15:37:26
27 Sandi

The media picked Obama so complainers like you would be labeled racists.

Why are you trying to keep the black man down?

See how it works?

The siple fact is that Obama is not qualified to be dog catcher but if anyone says that they re automatically labeled a racist.
30

Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi,

San Francisco 23/07/2008 15:40:40
28 Number 6

"Obama Muslim or Christian ?

Sad to see the level of ignorance among republicans here."

You are iggnorant if you believe that! THe Dems do that themselves to make it look like Republicans are doing it to pump up the base.
31

Number 6,

Germany 23/07/2008 15:52:18
29# Why do you say he is not experienced enough ?. You clearly have not checked out his public service record.

Are you seriously suggesting, the Democrats are behind the Muslim rumors?. That's remarkable.

What was George Bush's foreign policy experience again ?

Have you ever bothered to look into McCains previous life . Academically , very poor, dreadful pilot (4 lost aircraft). Would never have been allowed to fly had he not been the son of an Admiral.

His record in public office is one of the most dreadful
of all. Would you like me to spell out all the appalling legislation he has had passed?

Check out Vietnam veterans against john McCain for the full appalling story. See what your country's REAL heros think of him.

As I said, the level of ignorance (True context) here
among Republicans, is quite sad.
32

Laurette,

Carlsbad, California 23/07/2008 15:59:01
Most of the Anbar progress occurred between June 2006 and February 2007, months before the first surge troops even arrived.

Lynne: The surge came AFTER the Anbar Awakening.Why don't you check the timelines?

The Anbar Awakening is argued by many to be one of the most crucial turning points in the war. For McCain to falsely claim that The Surge was responsible for it is rank dishonesty and a blatant attempt to re-write history.

33

Regina,

NH, USA 23/07/2008 16:22:56
31 Number 6 (Hater)

"What was George Bush's foreign policy experience again ?"

It was leaps and bounds above the inexperienced BO you like. Bush was a multi term Governor in one of our largest States which gave him executive experience amd he dealt with the President of Mexico several times. Bush also failed and succeeded in the bussiness world prior to running for office.

You can't compare the two, Barack is a racist with no experience, and Bush is a good decent man who was ready to step ito the job day one.
34

Sonora,

North America 23/07/2008 16:57:00
#6 Germany: Thanks for your comments. Yours is one of the sane voices in this generally absurd debate. The level of ignorance and stereotyping represented here is astonishing. GWBush and his coterie have caused so much damage it will take years for the U.S, the world, and the earth to recover from his obsession for destruction and power. Obama, on the other hand, has a balance that U.S. leadership has not seen since A. Lincoln. Further, his knowledge of American history is sound, tested in the constitutional law courses he has taught at Chicago, and, more recently, in the U.S. Senate. A. Lincoln remains one of his heroes, and that in itself gives us a sense of his values.
35

American,

23/07/2008 18:20:07
Obama is pretty confident that he's going to be president for "52 U.S. states" over the next "10 years"!!!
36

Silence of the Yams,

23/07/2008 18:21:43
34. Yeah, when Obama hounded Alice Palmer off the state ballot did he show "a balance that U.S. leadership has not seen since A. Lincoln"?? Err, I think not! Truth is Obamorons like you are blinded by race and hatred for Bush. McCain is the best candidate by a mile.
37

mike - across the pond,

ah number 6 23/07/2008 18:34:17
your two words

George Bush? first.... WHICH ONE ARE YOU SPEAKING OF?

GHWB... CIA director for 8 years
embassador to china...
then VP for 8 years

GWB... chief executive of the largest state in the union whose has one of the largest import/export businesses is with.... MEXICO... and btw, GWB speaks FLUENT spanish...

BO... his "merci bouquo" line aside... dispite being only 150 miles from the canadian border, had only been out of the country a half dozen times in his adult life and this trip is only his SECOND forray abroad in an official capacity...

what vast "foreign policy" decisions has HE been a part of? Z E R O!!!

what executive decisions has BO made... Z E R O!!! hes NEVER been Chief Executive of ANYTHING....

what is the depth of the track record we have of BO... 2 years in the Illinois state senate.. 2 years in the US Senate... thats it... and he's skipped voting on 1/3 of the issues he was elected to vote on... thats not a track record that embues confidence...

bottom line BO IS NOT READY!!!!
38

American,

23/07/2008 18:35:01
#34-sonora-"his knowledge of American history is sound"-LOL!!
My bad @ #35, he thinks he's going to be president for "10 years" for "57" states!!
Your American history must be as "sound" as obamas.
39

Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi,

San Francisco 23/07/2008 18:54:32
#34 Sonora,North OF America

Where do you get your information? Keith Olbermann, Rosie O'Donnell and other dim wits like them?
40

Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi,

San Francisco 23/07/2008 19:00:36
#38 American

Now, Now, don't say anything negative about the incompetent moron Obama. The idiots on the left will label you a racist. I’m sure there is a perfectly good reason Obama thinks there are 57 States, it was probably because the white man was trying to keep him down.
41

Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi,

San Francisco 23/07/2008 19:03:22
#8 billengland

I have to give it to you and number 6, your hate speech is consistent. What's life like being a bitter old man?
42

Sandi,

San Diego 23/07/2008 20:09:32
#28,

Sorry to disappoint, but I am a Democrat.

I'd bet money that American ex-pats were not even a tiny concern when he was planning this trip. This is all about ego and arrogance, something Obama has in an endless supply. He is a total narcissist. The only thing he's concerned about is Obama.

Obama's "oratory skills" only exist when he's reading a speech. On any other occasion, he is useless. He umms and ahhhs and then has to call a news conference to tell you why what he said wasn't really wnat he meant. That'll go down well if he becomes president.

If Obama is ever president, he can try to reassure the World then.

I don't care about McCain at all.
43

billengland,

23/07/2008 20:18:38
41
Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi,

"I have to give it to you and number 6, your hate speech is consistent. What's life like being a bitter old man?"

No hatred, no bitterness, no old.

MacCain, Obama, does it really matter? They are both marionettes with the hijackers of the USA pulling the strings, and the Middle East occupation will continue. Mission accomplished in Palestine,Iraq and Afghanistan, next phase coming soon.

What's wrong with that? Just a statement of fact.
44

Media 1,

cape town 23/07/2008 20:20:43
Obama is a shining example of what Amercian politics has been missing for years.
He is a man of honour, he is a man of integrity, he is a man of peace and he wants to make a positive change in this world.
His opposite number, Mr boom boom bomb bomb McCain is a war mongering "play play god lover" whose friends include the Bush clan and the rest of the neo con groupies.
Cmon Obama, do it for all of us san!
45

Carolyn 1,

23/07/2008 21:21:40
It is amazing what too many Europeans so easily believe just because the media says it's so, .. and because they 'want' to believe.
You would think Europeans are smarter than that.
Evidently not.


46

Carolyn 1,

23/07/2008 21:28:49
Number Six, it is you who is pathetic, and I mean truly pathetic.
You have as to be expected uttered more dribble from sources that lack accuracy as well as integrity- I will remind you that Americans consider Michael Moore to be entertainment, not a news source. And The New York Times - they had an 80% loss in earnings. It's stock is valued at half what it was a year ago. Do I need to post an editorial explaining why their popularity has dropped quicker than a rock?

47

Carolyn 1,

23/07/2008 21:37:06
"When Barack Obama arrives, he won't lie to us, but he will not tell the truth either.” Yair Lapid, an Israeli columnist warned on the eve of the visit.

“In the coming days we will be exposed to Obama’s rhetorical abilities — few are able to deliver speeches like he does, and nobody does it better. Just like any great speaker, he will not be lying."
48

American,

23/07/2008 21:51:06
#41-nancy-I guess he's looking into the future. Maybe when he's president for "10 years", he'll have added 7 more states.
49

57Nomad,

california 23/07/2008 22:00:09
"BARACK Obama arrives in Europe later this week, carrying the hopes of the continent on his shoulders."

Once again Chris Stephens betrays every legitimate reporter. Barak Obama is carrrying the hopes of the continent on his shoulders? This is reporting? It would seem to me that Europeans have more important things to worry about. And what about those Europeans who don't feel orgasmic about Obama? Their dreams don't count?

Whats with this 'recession' Stephens is talking about. A recession is an economic term of art and Stephens knows it. A recession is a contraction in the economy for two consecutive quarters. Since the economy grew in the first quarter of 2008 it is impossible for the American economy to be in recession.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and Mr. Stephens is no exception. However, people are not entitled to their own facts. That includes Mr. Stephens. This is a propaganda piece, not legitimate reporting. And if this is representative of European reporting in general then it is no wonder why the Europeans think the way they do about the US. A reporter for a high school newsletter would get an "F" for turning in a piece a piece like this, engendered by the Leni Riefenstahl School of Journalism. Sheesh!
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57Nomad,

california 23/07/2008 22:03:15
One more thing for those who care. Barak Obama should be at least 15 points ahead of McCain. He's not, they are tied. Barak Obama will be routed in the general election and will be lucky to carry five states.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/07/2008 22:12:03
#23 Laurette...Why does Obama think we have 57 states? Why does he think Arkansas is in the middle of the country? Why does he think Arabic translators are needed in Afghanistan, when they Afghans don't speak Arabic?
Has Obama started showing signs of senility?

Have you heard him speaking in Israel? Why has he flip flopped there?
And there was the time he said he would be willing to speak with any head of state without preconditions..seems he flip flopped there now too.
Or has he forotten what he said?
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57Nomad,

23/07/2008 22:15:53
#14 Number 6

#6 said:

"Who led you immediatley into 2 wars, wars that have brought America to it's knees"

Brought to our knees? Look, oaf, Americans are on their knees every Sunday to give thanks for our innumerable blessings, but that's the only we will ever be on our knees. The Olympics are coming up. Keep your eyes on the opening parade of athletes. They will march through the stadium and when they pass the box that the Chinese head of state occupies, the flag bearers for every country will dip their flags. Every country except one, the USA. At the first Olympics the American flag bearer was told about the flag dipping protocol, informed the Olympic official, "this flag dips for no earthly king." Knees, indeed!
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/07/2008 03:51:42
Laurette, McCain piushed for that surge over a year...and for you to claim different makes you dishonest. The Democrats will even admit that.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/07/2008 03:59:34
Number6...what is his public service record? As a community organizer?
In his memoir, Obama says being a community organizer taught him how to motivate the powerless and work the government to help them. His chief example is an effort to remove asbestos from Altgeld Gardens, an all-black public housing project on Chicago’s South Side.
But those who were involved in the effort say Obama played a minor role in working the problem and never accomplished his goal. A pre-existing group at Altgeld Gardens and a local newspaper, the Chicago Reporter, were working on the problem before Obama came on the scene, yet Obama does not mention them in his book, “Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”
“Just because someone writes it, doesn't make it true,” says Altgeld resident Hazel Johnson, who had been pushing for a cleanup of the cancer-producing substance years before Obama showed up.
Rep. Bobby L. Rush, D-Ill., says it was Johnson's work, along with asbestos testing by the Chicago Reporter, that got Chicago officials interested in the issue. Rush, who launched an inquiry into the situation when he was a member of the Chicago City Council, says he is “offended” that Obama did not mention Johnson in his account.
“Was [Obama] involved in stuff? Absolutely,” says Robert Ginsburg, an activist who worked with Johnson and Obama on the problem. “But there was stuff happening before him, and after him.”
After three years working as an organizer, Obama could say he helped obtain grants for a jobs program and got asbestos removed from some pipes in the project. But as the Los Angeles Times has noted, the “large-scale change that was needed at the 1,998-unit project was beyond his reach.” To this day, most of the asbestos remains in the apartments.



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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/07/2008 04:03:20
continued..
Fruitless though his efforts were, Obama devoted more than 100 pages to his experiences at Altgeld Gardens and surrounding areas. Michelle Obama has said his work as a community organizer helped him decide “how he would impact the world,” assisting people to improve their lives. Yet, in a revealing passage in his book, Obama wrote, “When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn’t answer them directly.”
Instead, he said, “I’d pronounce on the need for change. Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won’t come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots.”
Thus, Obama admitted that he accomplished little but that he was able to cover that up with fancy talk about change.

After going to Harvard Law School, Obama returned to Chicago, where he briefly headed a voter registration drive and then became a lawyer. While Obama’s campaign has touted him as a civil rights lawyer, “Over the nine years that Obama’s law license was active in Illinois, he never handled a trial and mostly worked in teams of lawyers who drew up briefs and contracts in a variety of cases,” according to David Mendell’s “Obama: From Promise To Power.”
A review of the cases Obama worked on during his brief legal career “shows he played the strong, silent type in court, introducing himself and his client, then stepping aside to let other lawyers do the talking,” the Chicago Sun-Times has reported.

“A search of all the cases in Cook County Circuit Court in which Obama made an appearance since he graduated from Harvard in 1991 shows: zero,” the article said.
Instead, his practice was “confined mainly to federal court in Chicago, where he made formal appearances in only five district court cases and another five in cases before the 7th U.S. C
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/07/2008 04:05:13
continued..

Instead, his practice was “confined mainly to federal court in Chicago, where he made formal appearances in only five district court cases and another five in cases before the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals — a total of 10 cases in his legal career,” the paper said.
If Obama had virtually no impact as either a community organizer or as a lawyer, he was even more invisible in the state Senate and later in the U.S. Senate.
In both bodies, Obama had a reputation for voting “present,” thus avoiding controversial decisions that could be used against him later. In the U.S. Senate, he has missed more than one in five votes.
Only one of the measures Obama has sponsored as a U.S. senator was enacted: a bill to “promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.”
Contrary to Obama’s portrayal of himself as a unifier, on every bipartisan effort in the Senate to forge compromises on tough issues, Obama has been missing in action.
In sum, it would be difficult to imagine a more mediocre record. Most candidates for dog catcher have contributed more to society. Yet with the help of adoring reporters, Obama has managed to parlay extraordinary speaking and political skills into a presidential campaign built on sand.
The idea that America might entrust its security and future to someone who has never demonstrated an ability to get anything of significance done is scary.

Number6..is this the experience you were talking about?
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/07/2008 04:20:11
He says he is going to cover 47 million uninsured, but not illegal aliens. Well, Mr. Obama, if you don't know, I will tell you, that 47 million INCLUDES illegal aliens.. and I don't think the citizens of the US want to pay for health insurance for ILLEGAL aliens.
You cannot have it both ways.

He is losing the Independents, and the Progressives.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/07/2008 04:31:38
Carolyn1..you jusdge a man by where he's been..Obama says, and his deeds..Well, he told another lie. This time in Israel.

Obama said Israelis could be certain of his commitment to Israel's security by looking at "my deeds."
"Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my committee, a bill to call for divestment from Iran, as a way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon," he said.
However, Obama does not serve on the banking committee, and McCain's campaign seized on the mistake.

Not only is it not his committee, but he's not even on the committee, he didn't vote on the bill, and he had nothing to do with its passage," McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said in a statement issued Wednesday.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/07/2008 04:35:36
Ok...he gets off a plane carrying his jacket and his own luggage...so what!!

He is followed by the media because he's the new guy..so what!!

He still has said he would not support the surge, even though it worked..That's what...
And all of the above.

He does not support the Generals on the ground telling him different. That's what.

By the time the election comes.. the undecided, the Independents, the rest will all see..He is a bag of hot air, who speaks well, with a teleprompter. That's why he won't be the next President.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/07/2008 04:37:22
Carolyn1...sorry for the typos..it's late!!
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The Daleks,

Longmen 24/07/2008 06:55:38
#44 Media 1.

If he is a man of honour, then how do you explain his connection to organized crime, and his extremely hefty personal bank account?

As for change, I think not.

He's still toadying to the Israeli's, he's still toadying to the faceless capitalist manipulators, and he still wants to continue fighting foreign wars.

And McCain isn't any better.

America needs real change, but it won't come from either the Democrats or the Republicans.
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 10:41:26
If some of you rednecks are so sure Barack Obama won't be the next U.S. President, why do you spend so much time on the boards of a newspaper in Scotland, trying to convince us, that this will be the case. I suspect you aren't as sure as you claim, and that come November you will be in for a real disappointment.
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The Daleks,

Longmen 24/07/2008 10:52:05
#62

Oh right, so anyone who speaks out against Obama is a redneck.

How typical of the "right-on" PC Brigade to try to voice people into silence by negative labelling.
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 11:59:15
63# I don't think you fit the redneck description but the rednecks on here are the experts at "negative labelling". I still wonder why so many of them are on here on a daily basis being negative about Barack Obama. Don't they have U.S. newspaper boards in the "Land of the free" to promote their internet lies ,distortions, and rumours?
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The Daleks,

Longmen 24/07/2008 12:51:14
#64

Oh well, so long as you're not including me then, that's okay!!
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mike - across the pond,

ROFL 24/07/2008 16:21:09
so BO is a self proclaimed member of the Senate Banking comittee...

dost thou think he probably should let them know hes on that committee?

http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Information.Membership

or do we sweep all this under the rug....

and you think mr obama is worthy of trust?

or did BO miss his nappy time?
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/07/2008 19:13:35
A Clamper gave himself away..he is just another troll, with just another name...right!! Redneck..I once told you, you don't know the meaning of the word. I will help you, there is a book by Jeff Foxworthy.."You're a Redneck If"... get it. You are beginning to get boring.

 

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