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Published Date: 28 November 2006
TWO hundred and fifty engineers are currently working on the Edinburgh tram projects, which will have cost the public purse £62 million by Christmas.
The bulk of this £62m is an advance on the capital grant of £375m awarded by the Scottish Executive to construct Edinburgh Tram Lines One and Two.

This spending has occurred despite the stipulation of the then-minister for transport, Iain Gray, t
hat the grant was "subject to a robust business case". Only now is the business case coming forward - as a draft. It will be presented to full council for approval on December 22.

Tomorrow evening, the Edinburgh Traffic Forum is hosting a public meeting on trams. This is a welcome opportunity to put questions to the new convener of transport, Councillor Ricky Henderson, before our elected representatives vote to reintroduce trams (or not) in December.

It has been a lengthy and costly process as the Edinburgh Tram Bills journeyed through the Scottish Parliament. Managed by the council's arm's length company Transport Initiatives Edinburgh (TIE), this process required broad-brush information from experts as well as a legal team, including Queen's Counsel. Much of the important design detail, such as noise and vibration mitigation, was missing. Once the Edinburgh Tram Bills had parliamentary approval, new engineering and design consultants were appointed.

Frustratingly for those who have followed the tram project closely, legitimate design and funding questions remain unanswered.

The public still can't see exactly how the system will operate, or what it will look like, or how the overhead line equipment will be fixed to listed buildings, or whether traffic will be diverted away from the tram route into residential streets. How will major city junctions such as Haymarket Terrace and Leith Walk work when trams are added into the traffic management equation?

The funding short-fall is well-documented, but where will the missing millions be found if the project is to be afforded? Exactly how many bus services will be re-routed? Can the new council arm's length company, Transport Edinburgh Ltd, which is charged with integrating trams and buses, ensure that passengers do not have slower, more complicated journeys, changing from bus to tram to bus? Will buses be removed from Princes Street? Can double-decker buses get under the overhead wires?

For non-professionals, it is hard to understand the logic of how big transport infrastructure projects are pursued by governments all over the world. First comes the "big idea"; then comes a rough estimate of cost (which is often deliberately underestimated by consultants in order to hook politicians in). A large amount of money is then spent on more experts and on promotional spin, as projects and their benefits are talked up. Politicians rubber-stamp projects at various points. The final business case comes very late in the process, by which time politicians are too far in, and too much public money has been spent, to lose face by pulling the plug.

On December 22, we will be at precisely this point when our city's councillors vote on the draft business case for the tram projects. If the green light is given, construction tenders will be sought. To date, every councillor has voted in support of the tram schemes. It is unlikely that there will be renegades, although the SNP's Steve Cardownie (who voted for the trams when he was still a Labour councillor) may break ranks.

The timing of this vote is extremely worrying. How can the business case be robust if the design detail will not be available until January 2007 at the earliest?

In effect, our councillors will be voting blindfolded. Supposing some of the engineering solutions are publicly unacceptable? What happens if they are prohibitively expensive? Will a curtailed route be proposed? Can the project represent value for money if traffic management solutions cause journey delays or impact on businesses?

The most important unasked - and unanswered - question which has been missing throughout the tram debate is: do Edinburgh residents want this tram scheme? Have the vigorous publicity campaigns been enough to persuade people that they support the project? There is considerable public scepticism about the tram projects, because there is no obvious purpose to the chosen alignments. They do not address Edinburgh's key public transport needs - to access the new Royal Infirmary at Little France and to alleviate commuter traffic.

Whilst Edinburgh residents will have the chance to put their questions to Cllr Henderson tomorrow evening, they will ultimately be able to have their say at the ballot box during the council elections in May 2007. By then, the detailed design should be available and we will have a clearer picture of the tram scheme. Trams are likely to be a hot election topic.

Kristina Woolnough is chairwoman of the Edinburgh Traffic Forum, which is hosting a tram special public meeting with convener of transport Cllr Ricky Henderson tomorrow at 7.30pm at Davidson's Mains Parish Church. All are welcome.



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  • Last Updated: 28 November 2006 2:20 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh transport plans
 
1

Road Raga,

28/11/2006 13:24:58

Oh, and the other thing is I don't want a tram at the bottom of my garden.

2

Sarah B,

Edinburgh 28/11/2006 13:39:33

(1) - Aren't you convinced by TIE's argument that the value of your property will increase substantially as a result of the trams?

3

Colin G,

Edinburgh 28/11/2006 13:47:48

250 engineers working on something which hopefully won't ever despoil Edinburgh? £62m already down the drain?

An utter scandal.

4

Concerned of Stockbridge,

28/11/2006 17:06:13

What about the environmental Impact - I asked TIE if this had been taken into account and was stunned to learn that it had not.

It'll take tens of thousands of tons of steel and concrete to build this throwback to the 1930's delivered by diesel vans and lorries holding up hundreds of thousands of journeys where extra fuel will be burned.

All in all, this initial environmental impact will take decades if not a century for any eco-savings (marginal as they will be) to claw back.

5

Sarah B,

Edinburgh 28/11/2006 19:01:33

Wow - I am impressed by this lady who has clearly done her homework and then some! I suspect she has even read some of the studies done by Professor Flyvbjerg, imminent government (including UK) advisor on the subjects of why major construction projects consistently go over budget and fail to deliver anticipated benefits. Ms Woolnough seems to have a better grasp of the issues than our politicians - good for her.

I shall now make a point of going to the Edinburgh Traffic Forum meeting tomorrow which sounds as if it may be quite lively after all.

6

Percy Stent-Cuikie,

lurking on a hard drive in the city 28/11/2006 19:21:09

I read this article in the print edition today.

Kristina Woolnough is asking questions that should be coming from professional journalists as they report this developing project.

Sadly, all I have read in the Scotsman and Evening News is spin from Councillors and the pro-lobby.

There is no evidence of an integrated transport policy in this city. A single tram route is ridiculous if it doesn't integrate with other transport services.

Until more detailed information is forthcoming it will be hard to believe that the tram proposal is not just another ego booster for our politicos.

If they want a train set for Christmas they should ask Santa and not squander the taxes of hard-working citizens on a pipedream.

7

John B,

Edinburgh 28/11/2006 20:57:27

Kristina Woolnough is right to highlight the unresolved issues in the tram case. Of course it should be our councillors doing this on our behalf. The scheme was always half-baked. And if they say 'We must vote for it - we've spent all this money' then they are holding their own city up for ransom.
The SNP are the only ones with sense - they won't throw good money after bad. They are not electioneering Councillor Aitken -they are protecting our city.

8

Elaine, Edinburgh,

28/11/2006 21:23:08

It has been a long haul and here we are again with councillors sitting at the probably last session before Christmas , making major decisions about a project that has been ill thought through, will cost losts of money and is not in the best interest of the Edinburgh population. How much money again. I forgot, Oh we do not know !

9

Tramsport,

Edinburgh 29/11/2006 07:15:22

Once again, here is the Evening News in its usual tram-bashing mode. Never mind that we are choking the city with car fumes every day, added to by bus exhaust, we don't want trams because they are new and modern, it seems. A short while ago, I was in Lyon, France. Their transport system, combining trams, trolleybuses, metro, buses and funicular railway is flawlessly integrated, and a model of sense and ease of use. It is the result of vision, which the Evening News (and the SNP) seem to be sadly lacking.
We could have the makings of a great transport infrastructure here, but the lack of vision is awesome.
Everywhere where trams are being introduced (Manchester, South London, Nottingham, Birmingham) they have proved the worth in their investment. Trams are modern, sexy transport, and attract riders away from cars.
Come on Edinburgh, think future, have vision - Edinburgh needs the return of the tram!

10

Sarah B,

Edinburgh 29/11/2006 09:23:22

(9) Actually, trams in the UK have not "proven their worth" as the National Audit Office clearly pointed out and, despite TIE's assertion that they have "learned lessons" from the other UK schemes, I see absolutely nothing to demonstrate that they have.

Trams in Lyon are hugely subsidised by both government and local businesses, as are many European schemes. If we are to subsidise the Edinburgh scheme, then let's have some transparency about it. How much will the government, local taxpayer and businesses require to pay per year for this one tramline?

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Aileen,

Greece 29/11/2006 13:24:33

Again I say, put it to the vote of the people of Edinburgh and just see how many people want trams back with all this expense. Great article by the way, I hope some of the people who are going to the meeting might ask some of the same questions.

13

Jo,

Edinburgh 29/11/2006 13:28:41

The Evening News' relentless campaigns against anything which would make it easier to get around Edinburgh without having to resort to a car (and therefore adding to congestion) make me despair.

I live just off the route of Tramline 1, and like many people, I can't wait for trams to return. The ? 22 Ocean Terminal - Gyle Centre bus service is at absolute bursting point at peak hours, if not for most of the day. If that's not a demonstration of barely-met transport demand, I don't know what is? Building roads for all these passengers to drive on instead, as some would fantasise, is simply not a viable option, not to mention being a less effective use of space for moving people around in any case.

Trams, which can carry the same number of people as three buses, will provide much greater capacity on this popular route, and will also greatly speed up journeys to the important destinations of Edinburgh Park and the Airport, by being able to travel much faster than buses on off-street sections of route.

Of course we can't build an entire tram network overnight, and it will be necessary for some people to have to change from tram to bus, but how does that differ from the same journey made today, changing from bus to bus? In a show of integration all too rare in the UK, the Council has guaranteed that tram and bus tickets will be interavailable, making these connections as easy as today.

Once the first route has been a success, as I am absolutely certain it will be, more will indeed follow, gradually building us a proper network, as has happened in Manchester, Sheffield, and Nottingham, and making it easier to travel around more and more of the city in a non-polluting way.

The trams will be a success, they will make it easier to travel around the city for work, shopping and leisure, and if we do nothing the streets will only get more and more congested and polluted. Let's just get on with it!

14

MAB,

Edinburgh 29/11/2006 14:28:14

#13 Jo

Are you a Labour councillor or shareholer in TIE?

The trams will not work, the majority of the city of Edinburgh do not want them or their hard earned tax monies spent on a ridiculous scheme.

More waste by a Labour run administration, supported by a minority.

They way forward is to look to bettering the existing transport system, providing Eco buses to stop pollution. The new Hydrogen buses are more eco friendly than the proposed Tram system and the WHOLE of the city will benefit not just a small part!!

JUST BECAUSE THE TRAM LINE RUNS OUTSIDE YOUR FRONT DOOR, YOUR FOR IT!!!

15

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 29/11/2006 15:52:59

Excellent article Tina - well researched and presented. As with others on this post, I suspect the presence of Council (TIE - same difference) Spin Doctors among her critics -9 & 13, maybe?

16

John B,

edinburgh 29/11/2006 17:24:17

Nice one Thomas - I was just thinking the same thing.
OK I admit that I live near the Roseburn track but that doesn't make me a nimby - I would simply move if the thing came along (closer to a tram stop but too close!) and then watch with glee as all predictions of disaster come true.
If I lived in e.g. Balerno, Oxgangs, Liberton or Porty I would be just as concerned - what's in it for them?
So nimbys on one side and on the other TIEs being paid a fortune (BY US!) to spin the propaganda. ALL OTHER SCHEMES ARE A SUCCESS - who says? Their operators? Well they would wouldn't they.
Let all the people of Edinburgh who are not directly involved decide in a referendum.

17

Leithal Wit,

Edinburgh 29/11/2006 23:06:48

The trams will be fantastic for Edinburgh. Anyone forced to use the overcrowded 22 would agree. Remarkable that any positive opinions expressed about trams here are derided as propaganda. I know lots of people who support the introduction of trams, despite the short term pain.

A modern integrated transport system is what Edinburgh is crying out for. It is possible and within our reach. I only hope that the depressing naysayers who populate this corner of the web don't manage to derail this project.

The route chosen will go a long way to alleviate commuter traffic as anyone with a brain can see. Linking the most densely populated parts of town with the Scottish Executive offices and the Gyle. It will also link a Park and Ride scheme in the West (where most commuters arrive) with the city centre. Could it be Tina is so against this project because she lives a stones throw away from one of the proposed tram routes? I think this NIMBY should come clean.

18

Michael Laing,

Edinburgh 29/11/2006 23:55:06

Trams have at least two major advantages over buses: 1) it takes much less energy to move steel-wheeled vehicles along steel rails than rubber-tyred ones along tarmacadam roads, and 2) trams do not belch filthy diesel fumes straight into the lungs of pedestrians. Where they run on reserved tracks, i.e. separate from road traffic, they will also be greatly safer than buses. And they will certainly be faster and more comfortable than buses, which really are a third-rate mode of transport.

Edinburgh once had a comprehensive system of electric tramways, and their scrapping was an act of scandalous short-sightedness and stupidity. Those responsible are largely responsible for all the filth, noise, wasted time and danger we now have to put up with as a result of our city streets being clogged with cars, buses and lorries. If trams were good enough for Edinburgh in the 1920s, '30s and '40s, why are they not good enough now, when the demand for travel is so much greater? It amazes me that so many people are prepared to oppose the one mode of transport that is likely to have an impact on traffic-congestion.

Incidentally, I see no reason why the overhead catenary would need to be suspended from buildings, listed or otherwise. In the old days, the overhead lines were suspended from posts which doubled as lamp standards. I would suggest that todays streetscape is hardly been improved by the plethora of ugly traffic-signs that now clutters every street.

19

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 30/11/2006 13:11:16

How hypocritical of Ms Woolnough to complain it doesn't serve the RIE when she campaigned against congestion charging, which would have provided funding for such a route. Having stuck a knife into the arm of the council's transport plans she (and the Evening News) now wants to finish the job and put another in their back. Whereas she says it is all about asking legitimate questions she is simply using minor issues as a trojan horse to finish off the trams scheme and with it, any hope of a comprehensive network. There is nothing new in what she says - the exact same questions have been brought up time and time again in other cities so let's ignore this diversion and get on with it.


 

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