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Published Date: 27 May 2008
DUNDEE United last night cranked up their battle with the Scottish Football Association by insisting that manager Craig Levein has no chance of being given a fair hearing when he's called in front of their General Purposes panel.
Chairman Eddie Thompson was incensed to see SFA President George Peat publicly slate his manager for criticising referee Mike McCurry in the wake of United's 3-1 defeat at Ibrox earlier this month and has threatened the Hampden office-bearer with leg
al action after describing Levein's outburst as 'criminal'.

The United manager rounded on McCurry for refusing to award his side a blatant penalty, chalking off a legitimate goal and then deciding against red carding Daniel Cousin for a headbutt on Lee Wilkie.

He accused the official of showing bias and of being unable to handle the size of the occasion, as three points for Rangers were, at that stage, crucial to their hopes of landing the championship.

United have already made an official complaint to the SFA about McCurry's performance but were infuriated to see Peat preempt the committee's meeting by criticising Levein. In a statement, the club said: "The use of the word 'criminal' by the SFA President has meant, unfortunately, that we will now have to seek legal advice on this matter.

"The question is, should the SFA President prejudge what is going to happen at a General Purposes Committee and go public before any action has been taken?

"We would strongly suggest that this would breach all the rules and would be prejudicial to a fair hearing.

"Dundee United wish to record our deep concern that the SFA President has spoken out before the General Purposes Committee has decided if there is a case to answer. In our opinion, his comments will undoubtedly influence the General Purposes Committee's view on this matter and are highly prejudicial in the extreme.

"Dundee United see this as a massive breach of procedure on the part of the SFA."

United lodged their complaint about McCurry to the SFA last week but have so far heard no response from the authorities.

A statement from the SFA read: "The Scottish FA will be replying to Dundee United's letter in due course. There is no suggestion that the Scottish FA president is seeking to influence the work of the General Purposes Committee."



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  • Last Updated: 26 May 2008 10:56 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Dundee United FC
 
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Backofthenet,

27/05/2008 00:20:53
"The use of the word 'criminal' by the SFA President has meant, unfortunately, that we will now have to seek legal advice on this matter."

I strongly suspect the legal advice will be for Dundee United not to waste their time. No person or organisation was called "criminal", only a comment - and even then it did not (of course) mean literally criminal.
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James,

Dundee 27/05/2008 01:05:11
1. Freedom of speech for refs and managers.
2. Elite panel of pro Referees.
3. refs to declare wich team they support so it's all transparent.
4. 4th Ref to be referred to in the event of ref/assistant being scared of making 'genuine' mistakes.

#1 Thats what the SFA and certain 'interested parties' uld like, but this one will run for a while.
Nobody likes change, especially who derive either direct or unintended benefit from things as they stand.
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Brother Walfrid,

27/05/2008 02:29:19
It was a crass remark by Peat and the sfa are again shown to be incmpetent.

There is no way that they can adjudicate on this matter now. Peat has prejudged the whole matter, and Levein is entitled to a hearing before a fair and IMPARTIAL tribunal ...it's a human right ffs.

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27/05/2008 07:01:11
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GraemeH,

Edinburgh 27/05/2008 08:10:19
#4 - No.
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Deadpan,

London 27/05/2008 09:07:58
The SFA statement continued:

"There is no suggestion that the Scottish FA president is seeking to influence the work of the general purposes committee.

His remarks to the press were preceded by him saying just that."

Well that's okay then, as long as you precede any comment, no matter how prejudicial or slanderous, with a caveat then it doesn't count. Interesting. Not sure that would stand up in a court of law but I suppose that's irrelevant as the SFA is the judge, jury and executioner - how very middle ages.

The game of football in this country needs Dundee United to succeed in this venture. I sincerely hope it is sorted out within the game because I see a Bosman moment looming with respect to both European and Scots law.
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G,

dundy 27/05/2008 10:13:32
I urge all United fans to get ready to unleash an avalanche of emails, letters and faxes on the SFA when they finally censure Levein for speaking what he thought and what everyone agreed (even the referee) happened.
We can depend on the SFA to either do nothing or make an emnarassment of themselves.
Let's not let this one slide....
It is typical that the SFA say that their president can express his own opinions on this matter but Levein (and anyone else in Scottish football)cannot!
And #7 Rangers got plenty of dodgy decisions in other games I can think of three other against United outside the game in question and the CIS cup final - it is not about you!
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27/05/2008 10:22:22
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Celtic Forever,

No-one likes them, they don't care 27/05/2008 10:53:27
Losers FC...still crying over the fact that their ability to cheat has been seriously curtailed. Craig Levein has done on one outburst what others have failed to do in a hundred years...shame the football authorities in Scotland into fair play for all, not just the stinkgers.

Craig you're a hero. nineinro, you're a t@sser.
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27/05/2008 10:57:50
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 27/05/2008 11:32:00
#11 again the answer is no..celtic did not get more favourable decisions than rangers this season...they did get some...and hey you forgot the scandal of the soft corner against motherwell !!!!
as mentioned..rangers away form cost them the league..9 wins in 19 in the spl 15 wins out of 35 in all competitions...pretty poor stuff..
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 27/05/2008 11:47:41
#13..oops apologies you did mention the corner !!!!!
just for the record your list of "favourable decisions" isnt necessarily one i would agree with...nakamura was fouled against st mirren ..and really going on about corners is stupid..mcdonalds penalty was in the box..his first goal was marginally offside as was his goal against falkirk..and we got out of jail with big zanders goal ..although the referee had blown for a foul before it got to him..
but by my calculation rangers got more favourable decisions in one game against dundee utd,,!!! add in the "handling" of the rangers hearts semi final and i think that already puts you in the lead xxx
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Kiwiarab,

Christchurch, New Zealand 27/05/2008 11:48:22
"I'm not trying to inflence the committee but...." Is not exactly a legal disclaimer!.

Simple fact is the two most senior office bearers in the SFA have come out and branded Levein as guilty before a date for any hearing has been made. If Peat did not wish to influence the committee then he should not have made the remark.

Incidentally I would like to invite Mr Peat to enlighten me as to exactly what 'criminal' behaviour Craig Levein has indulged in? Or do the words defamation of character mean nothing to him?

Would also be interesting to hear anyone from the SFA defend Mike McCurry's integrity given recent revelations.
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Ian.M,

North Ayrshire 27/05/2008 12:16:17
The one thing we really need to move away from in Scotland is the notion that it is IMPOSSIBLE for one of our Referees to cheat. If they are 'only human' as so often described then the notion that every error is down to an 'honest mistake' is compromised by the fact that bias is as much of a human trait as it is to make an error.

For a country where the media readily accepts cheating within local and national government, unions, education, the health service, even the churches, it is a mystery why they will not accept that even one single decision made by a Scottish Referee could be made out of bias. What are they so scared of by even posing the possibility, and what makes a Scottish Referee such an honest person simply by taking up that role?
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27/05/2008 12:17:29
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 27/05/2008 12:40:47
#17 oh well in fairness if i remember right you didnt think it was a penalty or a goal for dundee utd in THAT game..so its hard to argue with someone who is so blinkered...xxx
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27/05/2008 12:58:07
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the tim reaper,

27/05/2008 13:02:06
#17

Still hurting I see.

Maybe time yor you to stop sucking on that bitter lemon and empty those sour grapes from your fruit bowl.

Catch a grip of yourself man.
In failing to award a penalty and send off the Rearangers player and then disallow a legitimate goal in the same game showed more bias than any other refereeing display this season. Even counting the similar bias in the CIS cup final.
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Noods,

27/05/2008 13:10:39
nineinro

I'd love to hear your take on that thug McGregor's assualt on Elliot that went completely unpunished. He should have been off for that but the ref bottled it. Granted you were getting spanked 4-2 by one of the worst "home form" SPL teams this season but still...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVpJOtfX0jA

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27/05/2008 13:23:17
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27/05/2008 13:37:52
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frisnit,

Dundee 27/05/2008 14:16:31
It's obviously an appointment in the Kangaroo Court for Mr Levein...
Even if Peat wasn't directly calling anyone criminal, he should be intelligent enough to not use words like that.
Legally is that any different to Levein saying United were "cheated" out of the CIS Cup? At least Levein's ambiguous turn of phrase was true :)
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gothenburg1983,

27/05/2008 14:18:20
the league is finished. Get over it! You lost fair and square. Each team had their fair share of dodgy decisions but ultimately only taking one point from Pittodrie over the course of the league has cost ya!
Utd were robbed in the CIS final.

Congrats to Rangers for a great double though!!

bbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha
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James,

Dundee 27/05/2008 15:19:01
Of course cheating in Football is confined to OTHER countries, such as Italy.

There is something inherently 'British sense of fair play' about the SFA that refuses blinkeredly to accept that 'mistakes' can only ever be genuine.

If they refuse to be part of the solution then they by definition are part of the problem, and require reform, root and branch.

It will take a club outwith the Old Firm to challenge the whole rotten system, and United are certainly not run by fearties.

If Celtic and their fanbase are GENUINE about their concerns, as they do enough complaining, then they should fall in line with the 'WEE' teams and seek reform.

However unless they do, they will be seen as the flip side of a double-headed coin - the Old Firm stick together on these matters - which is certainly the perception of non-Old Firm fans as myself.

If they did the SFA would then fold like a cheap suit and give into reform.

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Still Plays Football,

27/05/2008 15:20:21
Nice to see a very serious issue clouded by the usual idiots. Can't Celtic and Rangers see past their own noses enough to understand that this issue is not about them, it's a much bigger issue that needs to be addressed.
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Teary Ennui,

27/05/2008 16:45:26
Dundee United's legal advisors should tell them that legally you can't prejudice a tribunal that hasn't been convened yet (and may never be). Yes they got some bad decisions against them in that game but they are getting just a tad hysterical about it. I can't help thinking back to earlier in the season where Levein claimed a referee decided to "help" Kilmarnock by sending off United's Kalvenes (admittedly a dreadful decision).
28

The Equaliser,

27/05/2008 18:25:26
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A great many more that resulted in them claiming the title in what has become universally accepted as a hollow title victory.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 27/05/2008 19:33:25
#29..damn these hollow victories feel great xxx
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jerrymanders,

Where there are no riots. 27/05/2008 22:22:33
Nineinarow (3 IN A ROW AND COUNTING!)

Dundee Utd should have won their last three matches against Rags Fc. You know, and the rest of Scottish football knows it. It all came to a head and Levein just had to say what we were all feeling. Gordon Smith and Peat have now dug a hole for themselves that not even their lawyers can get them out of....without some help. Time is running out for that aging institution that is the SFA.

 

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