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Hi-tech car park faces a bumpy ride over who owns land



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Published Date: 07 May 2008
LONG-AWAITED plans to create a hidden underground car park outside one of Scotland's leading visitor attractions are in disarray amid confusion over who owns the land on which the scheme will be sited.
Council leaders have admitted the project – work on which was due to begin later this year – faces lengthy delays because the local authority may not be the owners.

The car park outside the Royal Museum in Edinburgh was to be the first of its kin
d of Scotland and based on a system commonplace in Italian cities such as Rome and Milan.

Motorists entering such car parks pay for a space through a computer panel. Once out of the car, a computer-controlled lift takes the vehicle underground, where it is parked automatically.

When the owner returns, the car is automatically brought back up to an exit bay. It takes an average of just 50 seconds to either park or retrieve a car. The car parks are monitored from a central control room via CCTV.

Lawyers are being drafted in to check records dating back hundreds of years. It is thought part of the land could be "common good" and the council may face a legal challenge if it tries to use it for what would be a commercial development.

Edinburgh City Council has come under fire for mismanaging millions of pounds worth of common-good assets, donated to the city by philanthropists or formerly owned by royal burghs for more than 100 years.

The council has only recently put the contract to run the Chambers Street car park out to tender. The existing 89 parking bays would be replaced by 100 underground spaces built on either side of the statue of William Chambers.

It was intended as a pilot which, if successful, was to pave the way for future schemes on George Street and Melville Crescent.

One council insider admitted the issues over land ownership on Chambers Street had only recently been discovered, but were threatening to derail the entire car park scheme in the area.

He said: "It's a massive headache.

"It's not entirely clear who owns the land below Chambers Street and it will be a fairly Byzantine process to get to the bottom of it."

Gordon Rintoul, director of National Museums Scotland, said: "We're aware of the car park proposal. But we're not in a position to assess the likely impact upon both the National Museum of Scotland and the plans for redevelopment of the Royal Museum building."

Councillor Tom Buchanan, economic development leader at the council, explained: "Land ownership in the city centre is complex due to numerous owners over a considerable length of time."



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  • Last Updated: 07 May 2008 12:51 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Bill the Baboon,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 07:08:02
It's a pity that your article doesn't say how much the Council intends to spend on creating the 11 additional parking spaces.
2

paulr,

edinburgh 07/05/2008 08:18:49
Very good question Bill....
3

Mike Hunt,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 08:56:55
And after creating the 100 underground spaces, will they replace the existing 89 surface spaces?
4

BBH,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 09:10:41
Not the first of its kind in Scotland. There's one in Morrison Street - don't know if it still works, but I do remember waiting for an hour and a half to retrieve my car one day. Not used it since.
5

Seb,

07/05/2008 09:29:25
I might be wrong but this may cost the Council nil. I think it's created at the developers cost and then they takes the parking fees for 5 years. So the cost would be the loss of the 89 parking spaces revenue.
6

Danny Mather,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 09:50:27
Seb, I've some magic beans that I can sell you.

7

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 10:17:03
Of course the whole idea is to remove the on-street car parking and provide more open space a la Castle Street - not to provide more parking.

http://www.trevipark.co.uk/
8

roadstohell,

07/05/2008 12:01:33
Oi !!!!!
What about all the motorcycle parking ????
I bet that is just taken away & not replaced elsewhere, it scunners me !!!!! why are we so "car centric" in this City ?????
GGrrrrr
9

Curious Yellow,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 13:07:20
Hang on - "the council may face a legal challenge if it tries to use it for what would be a commercial development"? And the 89 surface parking spaces aren't?
10

Jams,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 13:30:49
Surely the first thing the council should have done is establish whether they owned the land they were going to develop. That's what the rest of the world has to do.

But forgive me, they are "The Cooncil" and all of Edinburgh is theirs to do what they like with. Incompetence follows incompetence follows incontinence and they end up pissing our money down the drain again.
11

dido-bendigo,

Scotland 07/05/2008 21:16:08
The 'Developers' should arrange to have a clandestine meeting with Alex at a posh hotel. He will sort it, never fear, he is in charge!
12

mad moo,

edinburgh 08/05/2008 11:58:29
If the 89 spaces are on Common Good land anyway the revenue from them should have been going into common good accounts.
Like most commercial uses or revenue to land or buildings on common good land it seems to have been going to general council accounts which then get spent on Trams, leases for new council HQ, council staff wages and other things which are not what common good funds are for.
this just highlights the complete lack of accountability and asset management which has gone on since local government reforms.....more info about missing millions in the report by Common Good expert Andy Wightman...see his website
http://www.scottishcommons.org/

13

Thomas J,

Dunfermline 08/05/2008 13:26:13
Andy Wightman on his website highlights the case of the Waverley Market that was transferred out of the common good account (by mistake say the council) and then leased to a developer for 206 years at the rate of ONE PENNY A YEAR. This mistake that cost the Edinburgh Common good fund some £20 million or more.

After this scandal was brought to light in the Scottish Parliament the Council investigated this matter afresh and concluded that the Waverley Market was not after all a common good asset but the common good status had been transferred when the market was re-located.

So that made everything fine and dandy did it. If it was not the citizens who lost £20 million it was the council tax payers!

Time Lothian and Borders finest were investigating some of the stewards of the public purse at City Hall.

 

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