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Report favours tram link to airport over direct rail line



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Published Date:
25 September 2007
MINISTERS are to be advised to scrap a direct rail line to Edinburgh Airport in favour of a tram link from nearby stations, The Scotsman has learned.
The plan would see passengers alighting at a new station at Gogar and transferring to the already approved tram line to the airport terminal. The recommendation by the Scottish Government's Transport Scotland agency comes after ministers ordered a re
view of a £650 million scheme for the airport to be served by terminal station and through line.

The SNP-led government attacked the cost and risk of the scheme, and an Audit Scotland investigation found serious problems with the way it was being run.

Stewart Stevenson, the transport minister, is due to announce the fate of the scheme to MSPs on Thursday.

However, opposition parties said they have yet to give up the fight for the original scheme, which was backed by the last Labour-Liberal Democrat administration and won approval at Holyrood in March.

But Mr Stevenson will be advised by the transport agency that the tram option would be much cheaper and would avoid having to dig a tunnel under the runway.

Instead, trains from the west and north would stop at a new station on the Edinburgh-Fife line near the Gogar roundabout, south-east of the airport. Trains from Glasgow and Dunblane could also be diverted via the station by using a link line between Winchburgh and Dalmeny, near South Queensferry.

It is understood that the plan would involve a tram stop beside the new Gogar station, which would also be close to the planned tram depot. Rail passengers, including those from Bathgate, could also switch to the airport-Newhaven tram line at an already planned interchange at Edinburgh Park station to the south.

Most passengers currently travel to the airport by car, taxi or a bus link from Edinburgh city centre, which operates every ten minutes and is among the most frequent in Europe.

Opposition parties insisted yesterday that the original scheme was not dead, pointing to the defeat they inflicted on the Scottish Government in saving the Edinburgh tram project in June. One MSP said: "It would be premature for us to give up the ghost on the airport rail link - things could change. No-one at Holyrood will accept the ministerial statement on Thursday will be the last word on the project."

Tavish Scott, the Lib Dem transport minister until the election in May, said scrapping the airport rail link would be a "huge error". He said: "Scotland's economy would benefit best from the project. Any other kind of proposal being dreamed up is more about getting the SNP out of a spending hole than in the strategic interests of Scotland."

Charlie Gordon, Labour's transport spokesman, said he would be "questioning the minister closely on Thursday".

The Audit Scotland review, ordered by John Swinney, the finance secretary, found in June that the rail-link project lacked co-ordination and a decision on how the scheme would be completed. He said the report raised "a number of serious concerns about governance and development issues, which we would have expected to be in better shape."



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1

Conan,

Craighouse 24/09/2007 23:49:30

Why not plain old buses?

2

Maisie from Morningside,

Edinburgh 24/09/2007 23:50:48

The stupidity of this scheme boggles the mind.

Direct links are always more efficient ,more popular and more used.

3

scotsdoc,

Nanaimo BC CANADA 25/09/2007 00:06:46

Trams instead of a train? Sounds crazy to me!
Take Gatwick for example the train service is the epitomy of efficiency and comfort into central London.

I just cannot immagine a tram service from Turnhouse to the GPO being as comfortable or as efficient as a good train service!

(Mind you I'm biased a Great great uncle, Daniel Stewart, ran the Haymarket end of the original Edinburgh and Glasgow railway)

4

truthsleuth,

South of the Border 25/09/2007 00:21:09

What is the point of providing a rail link to an airport air is the main competitor to rail over inland routes.
Let them go by car or bus on congested roads.
Rail links to airports should not be subsidised. In Brisbane (Australia) the airtrain is nor subsidised and users have to pay quite a big premium.
The £300million would be better spent on electrifying and improving existing rail routes.

5

Colin B,

Bearsden 25/09/2007 01:00:45

Quite right , the overly complex rail line under the runway proposal's only guarantee was that the public sector and contractors would make a complete hash of it. Put two platforms at the Fife railway line near the old RAF Turnhouse with walkway and spend the money saved on trams.

6

Navvy,

25/09/2007 01:44:15

So the people from Bathgate have to go past teh Airport and return.

The airport is in the wron place why does central Scotland need 2 half baked international airports when we could join everything up and have one good one with proper transport links rather than what is clearly going to be a fudge.

7

I'm no really here,

25/09/2007 05:25:36

Good thing EARL what closed down. The last thing we need just now is another Labour albatross round our necks.

8

SouthernSkye,

25/09/2007 06:03:02

#1 Conan.
They've got those already. Damned good the # 100 is too !
(Cannae waste money on something they already have see? It's a budget thing ;-)

9

Iain's,

Spain 25/09/2007 06:17:44

I always thought that the sole point of the trams was to take the civil servants from Leith docks to the airport.

They don't care what it costs as long as it makes their jobs easier.

Fortunately Enric Miralles is dead and can't design the multi-million pound tram station!

10

Jay Kay,

Burntisland 25/09/2007 07:01:27

Its only a matter of time before one of these trams kills someone, how the hell can they be safer than the train and faster, it doesnt add up at all.

Who the hell is pulling these strings and why the hell cant the people of Scotland stop this madness.

Who ever thought that digging up the roads to make way for trams would happen in this day and age.

Is this some kind of parallel universe where the exact opposite of logic happens???????

Will someone please explain the benefits trams will have over Buses or a direct link, or for that matter simply building a station on the line that runs right by the end of the runway at Edinburgh????????

How can building one station be more expensive than £600 million quids worth of something that will take the neds one day to vandalise?

Who the hell has control of this project and did he play with toy trams as a kid.

ITs f*cking total bonkers.

11

paulr,

25/09/2007 07:53:23

And as usual they never consider asking the people of edinburgh what they want.

12

Danny Mather,

25/09/2007 08:00:31

the idea of a station at Gogar to serve the airport is a good one - much better than the tunnel idea - as it will be able to serve all rolling stock.

13

gus1940,

Edinburgh 25/09/2007 08:47:56

Can anybody remember what reasons were given in the 1950's for scrapping the old tram system.

14

Hambo,

25/09/2007 09:13:12

I'm so pleased to read this about a Gogar train/tram interchange as I thought of it myself as an obvious low cost option.

15

Hambo,

25/09/2007 09:20:45

#10 and others
The CURRENT cost of the EARL scheme is £650 million and this is before they actually start construction. A station at Gogar would cost about £10 depending on how its done. This would also give the trams extra business. The rail line may skirt the airport but not the terminal building itself.

16

Märiö äntoinette,

25/09/2007 09:30:53

This is cheapskate and shows a lack of regard for future planning. How can central scotland be taken seriously with a half a*sed approach to infrastructure like this ? I can only presume we are skint.

How the hell does BELGIUM manage to have direct trains from all major cities to Brussels Airport , with the station under the terminal and we cannot ? I can only presume we are skint.

If there has to be a compromise , a station at former RAF turnhouse would seem logical, There is a line there already.

I thought the whole idea was to improve services to and from the airport and reduce car traffic. We currently have a situation where you can change at Haymarket or some godforsaken station in Fife and get a bus.

This is no good for business.

17

ChrisEH26,

Pennycook 25/09/2007 10:13:49

I am always amused on the trains to Fife when the announcement says "change at Haymarket / Inverkeithing for the bus to Edinburgh Airport". Who would get a train from Waverley when the 100 bus starts there. All very silly when the train passes the airport - but I suppose we should expect this kind of idiocy in Scotland today!

18

Märiö äntoinette,

25/09/2007 10:16:52

"change at Inverkeithing for the Spacehopper Link to Edinburgh Airport"

19

dyon gollins's back,

in a queue at Gogar 25/09/2007 10:43:33

This is just plain nonsense and MA #16 has it right! What's more is that the Belgians are about to do the unthinkable and build a railway tunnel under Zaventem airport to connect it with the North of the country - no-one in Belgium is arguing that this is unrealistic or too risky, by the way! It has already been done at Schiphol of course - where the ground conditions are far from easy - and it works very well there.
A tram line is total nonsense not only because it does nothing for access to and from the rest of the country but for journeys to and from Edinburgh it would be dependent on there being fast/express/non-stop services which will be impossible unless there are passing places all along the track which is unlikely and would be just as expensive as putting in a rail link.
Scotland needs to compete internationally with the likes of Belgium and the Netherlands but if this kind of creeping parsimony and lack of vision is the future which the SNP are offering then we can expect no initiative, no creativity, no competitiveness and no innovation in their future world of an independent Scotland!

20

Coinneach,

Dublin 25/09/2007 11:01:47

13. Gus1940. As far as I recall, it was car ownership that drove trams off the road. There were cobblestones too - which was part of the tram package. It was certainly cleaner. But now this is a must-have for cities (like all cities must have a waterfront building shaped like an armadillo) so I am a little doubtful about it. For those of us who remember having lots of trams, this fuss seems a bit pathetic. Dangerous? Well every so often in European cities, tourists get knocked down because they didn't pay attention. Trams are big, loud, slow and they have clangy bells.

21

EG,

25/09/2007 11:11:00

looks like driving will still be the best way there if you are coming from the north. The planners and dim wit politicians seem to assume only residents of Edinburgh use Edinburgh airport.

22

gwpmason,

Edinburgh 25/09/2007 11:36:21

As I recall, the trams were taken off in Edinburgh 1956 (and later in Glasgow) because of the capital cost of track renewal. It was cheaper to scrap them and put buses on instead, and buses can change route much more easily. I was sad at the time, as I was just about to start school in 1956 and wanted to get the tram, but I do recognise their limitations.
The new tram scheme is daft, the biggest trams in Europe on streets with sharp corners, and one line to the airport - I'd rather see Turnhouse and Ratho stations reopened with bus links, they would serve the local communities as well, although a new station at Gogar roundabout with an airport bus would replace Turnhouse neatly. They don't need a link line from the west, Edinburgh Park or Ratho station on the existing main line would do just as well. They just want to build something new to claim credit for it!

23

Jay Kay,

Burntisland 25/09/2007 12:12:39

#15 And how much would it cost to run a shuttle bus service from the new station to the terminal building?

24

Jay Kay,

Burntisland 25/09/2007 12:15:23

The next time Im headin to Edinburgh Airport think Im gona just pull on the emergency brake handle and get of, walk the half mile over to the terminal, job done.

25

Kieron,

Stirling (from Edinburgh) 25/09/2007 13:15:05

Its Tim Tam Tammer and Tim Tam Tammer ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

26

Murdoch,

Fort William 25/09/2007 17:03:47

No.16 and No. 19

Absolutely! Typical penny-pinching second (or third) best option. Stop-start, on-again-off-again changes - who's going to bother. If this is the only option - don't bother with it at all and wait till we get an Executive with a bit of foresight and ambition.

27

Miss Jean Brodie,

25/09/2007 17:41:07

Move Edinburgh Airport into Edinburgh City Centre - we’re sick o it oot here in the Former West Lothian, noo named Edinburgh West - the current centre of all activity and development in the whole of Scotland - that’ll do away wi the need for trams n trains n buses n taxis n all the rest of it - and should get rid o a few thousand jobs to boot and we could re-instate some countryside - that thing thaty the Lib Dems and Labour Party seem to be hell bent on destroyin in the name of opposition to the SNP!

Develop new work practices and there would be a helluv a lot less requirement for all this travellin aboot like wee rats busy on their wee rat runs - vermin that’s the human race!

28

livilion,

livingston 25/09/2007 19:52:34

What we really need is a Monorail!!

Ogdenville, North Haverbrook, and Brockway have one, why don't we?

We're just as smart as any of them.

29

Friar Tuck,

25/09/2007 20:46:28

Put in a station on the Fife line and another ststion on the Glasgow line.

Run an automated shuttle train between them with a stop at the airport.

30

CB,

Somewhere in the EU 25/09/2007 21:26:15

Good grief! An outbreak of common sense in the Scottish Government! Hurrah!

I think this makes absolute sense. You have a direct tram link from Edinburgh, and if folk from Fife, Dundee or Aberdeen want to fly from Edinburgh, just one change of station.

Even the weegies and Westies can't complain as one service say every hour could be diverted via Gogar.

Excellent news.

31

CB,

Somewhere in the EU 25/09/2007 21:31:18

Mario No. 16:

Try living and working in Belgium as an employee, and you'll find out why they can afford it: income tax is well over 50%!

Our lower levels of tax are never going to supply good transport infrastructure. But never mind, you can all afford to buy over-priced houses and 4x4s instead.

Sigh.

32

Douglas,

Runway 3 25/09/2007 21:49:44

#27 Miss Jean Brodie: First class idea! Finally a use for Princes Street. Tourists could disembark, buy reasonably priced sports attire, essential Scottish themed tat, take photos of the castle then grab a burger. They'd never need to know the hell that is the Maybury or interrupt the restful day of a city cabbie. It would also do away with the need to cancel the authentic hogmanay experience at the drop of a hat, letting visitors avoid that 'just been shafted' feeling.

33

David Thomson,

Livingston 26/09/2007 10:36:39

#19 Don't even try comparing Edinburgh Airport to either Zaventem or Schipol. Edinburgh is a small regional airport, where mainly small-medium aircraft flying short haul domestic and euro routes are based. Try fitting some wide bodied beasts in there and it comes stuck...Agreed Scotland should have had the single International airport years ago, but doesn't and won't have now. Belgium and Holland far outstrip Scotland with population and have only one major airport each. Therefore Hub Status and good railway links. Scotland has already got an Airport capable of handling all traffic. It's called Glasgow International [it also has a rail link approved and being built] We need no other and in their Wisdom. The SNP recognise this.


 

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