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Published Date: 25 March 2009
CITY council leaders in Edinburgh are set to lead efforts to attract a new developer for the Caltongate scheme in the Old Town if business leaders behind the venture fail to get it into action.
Officials are to hold talks with administrators handling the assets of developer Mountgrange Capital to ensure the £300 million project goes ahead.

A major campaign to promote the site as one of the city's best development opportunities is exp
ected to be mounted – despite calls for the council to order a rethink over the site.

Heritage bodies and MSPs are urging the council to use the demise of Mountgrange, the developer that spent four years pursuing the scheme, to trigger a debate over the future of the gap site.

One of Scotland's leading conservation architects is demanding a review of the Caltongate site, in order to have several "terrible" planning decisions overturned.

James Simpson, vice-president of Icomos UK, an official advisory body to Unesco's world heritage committee, said the downturn gave the council the chance to "swallow its pride and take stock" over the site.

But insiders at the council say there is "no question" of reviewing the site's future, insisting it would do all it could to ensure Caltongate went ahead.

The Scotsman reported yesterday that the scheme – which would have seen the creation of a five-star hotel and conference centre, 200 homes, a commercial quarter and new public square – was brought to a halt after Bank of Scotland pulled the plug on Mountgrange.

Its directors, Martin Myers and Manish Chande, insist they are trying to raise cash to buy the assets of Caltongate back from the administrators. However, the council said it would welcome another company stepping into the breach if the directors did not revive the development and pointed out that any new operator would not need to submit new plans.

The council could become a joint partner with a developer because of its heavy involvement with the site, next to its Waverley Court HQ. The sale of plots of land key to the scheme was never completed, meaning the council will still decide the fate of the project.

One source said: "There is no doubt we're encouraging the full development of the scheme. If Mountgrange's directors cannot buy the assets back it's open to another company to take the project forward."

A spokeswoman for the council said: "Our position is that we very much want this development to happen because of its importance to the regeneration of this part of the city."

SNP MSP Shirley-Anne Somerville said: "No-one takes any pleasure out of the site remaining a black hole. I just hope there can be a rethink of what is needed for the community and the historic heart of the city."





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1

Hmm ...,

25/03/2009 00:17:32
,,, deluded, just deluded! Now who said that Councillors and their officials don't live in the real world? This must be positive evidence!
2

Mallory,

Edinburgh 25/03/2009 02:46:25
Why is this council and its officials so desperate to proceed with this scheme? Are we going to see more council-tax being spent to subsidise Chande, Myers and Fraser?

The failure of Mountgrange offers a decent chance for a proper review of this botched design and an opportunity for a creative and sympathetic alternative to emerge.

3

harvey05,

eh 25/03/2009 06:51:27
I'd prefer a lovely green park with a pond and fishes.
4

Buttress,

25/03/2009 07:07:40
'Insiders at the council'... aye right.

Listen to James Simpson - spot on. Throw it all out and start again. It's a crass and ugly commercial scheme which is popular with very few. Don't repeat the mistakes made in building the really vile council offices. There must be a better way ahaed.

Has the council not actually realised that there is a 'credit crunch', that if Mountgrange couldn't raise the cash others may have similar problems? That the development is not needed - a conference centre? A five star hotel? A whole load of tacky flats? A far from public square?

Do these 'council insiders' really have so little sense? Name and shame then we can have them removed.

According to this newspaper it is expected that the forthcoming UNESCO report will slam the entire process of how the council handled Caltongate. Have they no shame at all?

Also, the council still owns some of the land and buildings, including listed ones, which were to be demolished (without any genuine justification) as part of this scheme; the legality of selling to one bidder without offering on the open market is in serious doubt.

background: www.eh8.org.uk
5

Grumpy,

25/03/2009 07:25:16
It was councillors behind the tram fiasco. It was councillors behind giving the green light to the awful St James Centre years ago. It was councillors who allowed the rape of Princes St with ugly out-of-place buildings and shops filled with second hand books and tartan tat. It was councillors who spent millions on creating a guided busway at Stenhouse which was useless and is now out of use. It was councillors who approved all the buidling of humoungously ugly flasts at Ocean terminal which now can't be sold.

So would you trust the councillors to do something beneficial to the city about Caltongate? I sure wouldn't.
6

Buttress,

25/03/2009 07:39:01
Here's one I have no faith in:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7960694.stm
7

Buttress,

25/03/2009 07:48:38
Magnus Linklater the Times:

"...Mountgrange, has gone into administration, and the site is left empty - looking more bereft than if it had never been cleared in the first place.

There are those who will heave a sigh of relief. Its critics always had doubts about the scheme, its architecural merit, the scale of the development and whether it struck the right balance between function and aesthetic. In Edinburgh these things matter and matter deeply. The collapse of Caltongate may give time for second thoughts, and perhaps a decision that what should take its place is more modest, more amenable to its surroundings..."


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Buttress,

25/03/2009 07:55:01
And has no-one told the council that Tiger's Haymarket Tower has been called in for public inquiry?

http://news.stv.tv/scotland/84197-caltongate-development-under-threat-after-financial-problems/

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Mallory,

Edinburgh 25/03/2009 08:28:30
And the Buredi thing collapsed at Edinburgh Quay..
Springside scaled back and office building halted..
etc
etc
10

Buttress,

25/03/2009 08:33:12
Watch and weep though - all is well as Henderson is still forging ahead with St James' Centre and Tiger's Haymarket is going ahead?

St James' Centre could well fall by the wayside too, and Haymarket has yet to be given planning permission!

So it's worse in London? How big is London, how big Edinburgh?

Let's face it, CEC hasn't a clue.
11

Snails dont like curry and chips,

Edinburgh 25/03/2009 10:01:54
City Leaders to step in to revive Caltongate - someone is having a laugh - they can't even conduct council meetings without traffic lights -don't let these bungling fools anywhere need this or we will have another great investment of public monies - like the Ratho climbing centre for instance? These people are sunday school teachers and librarians - they have no experience of the real commercial world.
12

Rap,

25/03/2009 10:51:50
D2 the development is nowhere near the tram line so I'm pretty sure there are no tram contributions. Not everything in Edinburgh is tram related you know.
13

noswod,

Honestas 25/03/2009 11:11:28
Its time to start again. Get a decent architect, consideration of site & location, imagination in design and hey Jimmy you have a world class building on a world class site.
14

Maryann,

25/03/2009 11:12:10
Let's hope that the proposed monstrosity of a seventeen storey hotel at Haymarket also gets the boot
15

Rap,

25/03/2009 11:38:22
#15 The public inquiry starts on May 25th, so not long now to find out.
16

Buttress,

25/03/2009 11:43:01
Yes I believe it is in the boundary of a tram contribution... and the City Car Club too!

17

Rap,

25/03/2009 11:47:49
Really? My word, their boundaries stretch far. I assumed it was only "frontagers" who had to stump up. How much were they due to pay? Haymarket is £4m.

18

Buttress,

25/03/2009 11:58:10
I don't know if the sum was ever finalised, but it's in the masterplan.

This is wonderful hokum too...

http://heritage.scotsman.com/caltongatedevelopment/Caltongate-39The-loss-of-a.5105933.jp#3878638
19

Alasdair mac Alasdair Mór Mac an Righ,,

25/03/2009 12:37:39
I wonder if the councillors will have to return the brown envelopes?
20

Fraz 0810,

Dunfermline 25/03/2009 13:09:14
I'm not a regular follower of all events "Caltongate" and as such, I'm not quite up to speed with where the planning decision was. However, it strikes me that if planning has already been granted, then any implementation or even discussion of alternative proposals are moot within the 5 year period - regardless of Mountgrange's position.
21

Buttress,

25/03/2009 13:14:36
No, nothing to stop any other proposals being passed.
22

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 25/03/2009 13:15:22
Don't this council know that in the eyes of the world, the Old Town and Princes Street and view of the castle, are what Edinburgh is reknowned for.

The tram money could have been used to sort 3rd world state of some of our city centre walkways, that have been cheaply repaired for drain and cable laying with mismatched pavements etc.

Any subsidies re Clatongate, would be better deployed in Princes St. We as residents have been used to it's gradual decline and accept the state of huge areas of Princes St shops, to visitors it must on FIRST impression look like a run down main street in a near bankrupt town.
23

Buttress,

25/03/2009 13:20:05
Treat all this with the largest pinch of salt... the results are carefully manipulated twaddle... but if all this was in place by Jan 2006, why the delays?

http://www.caltongate.com/CaltonGate-a-step-closer-after-public-show-their-support.aspx

Naturally, Allan Murray did his usual back of the fag packet sketch of amasterplan in the pub one evening,in Jan 2006, his mates who did the 'architecture' took a day or two to design it all, then the plans were whopped in and left on a shelf in the CEC planning offices for years, with nothing happening...

24

Brodric,

25/03/2009 13:37:32
Build some nice houses with small courtyards. There isn't enough courtyard/garden housing in the centre.
25

Old Town Resident,

edinburgh 25/03/2009 14:51:34
They must be having kittens up at the chambers
26

Callum MacPherson,

Edinburgh 25/03/2009 19:02:21

I'm with the heritage groups and every sensible person out there. This is the perfect opportunity to review the plans for this UNIQUE site; plans that are currently not only inappropriate but simply not good enough.

For a city that has ambitions to be not only European but world class, only the best will do.

The current plans by Mountgrange pay only lip service to the architecture and history of the area. Reviewed plans should be wholly sympathetic. Once the buildings go up it will be a long time before any mistakes are remedied. Just look at the St James centre.


 

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