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Published Date: 26 November 2008
THE Scotsman was last night praised for helping to save educational trips for Scottish schoolchildren to Auschwitz after SNP ministers caved in to pressure over funding.
Fiona Hyslop, the education secretary, had refused to provide the £214,000 a year needed to send around 400 teenagers on trips organised by the Holocaust Education Trust to the infamous death camp

But last night, it emerged Ms Hyslop had perfor
med a U-turn. Today, she will formally announce the government will help subsidise the trips, aimed at teaching Higher students about the dangers of prejudice by drawing from the lessons of the Holocaust.

The issue came to a head because direct funding from the Treasury ran out. The Scottish Government has sole control over the education budget and was not willing to provide direct funding. The trips were to continue for students from England and Wales

The SNP left councils to decide how education money was spent, saying they would "encourage" councils to support the trips, but would not ring-fence educational funding.

Ministers were lobbied again by the Holocaust Education Trust at the SNP's party conference.

Further pressure had been applied in Holyrood's education committee during budget discussions.

Ken Macintosh, Labour's school spokesman, managed to persuade all members of the committee to sign a letter calling on the Scottish Government to find the funding.

"Obviously, this development is very welcome," he said. "I am glad that reason has prevailed.

"This is in no small part down to the youngsters who went on the trips and lobbied so hard for them to continue.

"But I have to praise The Scotsman too, which has so effectively led this campaign. Without that support, ministers would have probably not changed their minds."

Karen Pollock, director of the Holocaust Education Trust, said: "It would have been a great shame if schoolchildren in Scotland had not been able to benefit from these trips whilst teenagers from the rest of the UK were going on them. We are now looking forward to working with the Scottish Government and involving more Scottish teenagers with our work."



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26/11/2008 00:26:54
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subrosa,

26/11/2008 00:42:03
The trips shouldn't be funded by the taxpayer. I agree with # 1 and anyone wishing to visit should do so in their own time and at their own expense.

Just because children from English schools go on them, doesn't mean to say Scotland has to follow suit.


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Scunnert,

26/11/2008 00:45:44
" ... aimed at teaching Higher students about the dangers of prejudice by drawing from the lessons of the Holocaust.'

The dangers of prejudice? Prejudice results in blacks at the back of the bus. Genocide results from racial hatred.

Just teach the kids about the Highland Clearances. Save the money.
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Dr. James Wilkie,

Vienna 26/11/2008 00:52:42
#1. I know Auschwitz and I agree with your opinion. Auschwitz I, the former Polish barracks at Oswiecim, is still more or less intact, but the place where the real holocaust happened, Auschwitz II and III, at Birkenau, was largely demolished by the Nazis and has had to be partially reconstructed. Survivors have told me that there is no way you can obtain a sense of the happenings of that time from the present remains. One or two of the exhibitions in Auschwitz I are very graphic and horrifying, however that is not the place where the main mass extermination took place.

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26/11/2008 01:55:45
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Scunnert,

26/11/2008 02:13:41
5 Joe-kerr, 26/11/2008 01:55:45

SNP Tax Bombshell

SNP Caves In

Aye - it all gets a bit tedious does it no?
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james 1st,

hamilton nz 26/11/2008 04:24:00
the snp is in error. there should be no taxpayer funded trips to auschwitz.perhaps israel if it thinks such trips are important should pay for them. send the kids to the democratic republc of congo then they can see first hand and draw their own conclusions.

its way past time that the holocaust was consigned to history
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Dougie Douglas,

Brisbane 26/11/2008 05:37:43
Thats right CU Pal - shame on them. Having independent policies and then changing their minds when a concensus emerges the other way.

Thats no way to govern (flexility, listening to opinion, and reflecting the wider communities feelings).

Shame on them for ko-towing to these nasty nazis, shame on them for making an informed policy change.

SHAME
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26/11/2008 06:38:37
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Angleland Isover,

26/11/2008 06:55:07
Well said Vince.
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Donnie Murdo,

Western Isles 26/11/2008 07:45:25
So, once again the suggestion is that every child in Scotland is a potential mass murdering, anti-Semite, Jew hating neo Nazi?

And with that thought, they should be taken to this place to be brained wash so they don't give into thier urge to become that Jew hating mass murdering neo Nazi?

Is that right?

Or has this whole silly campaign been an anti-SNP dig instead the the actual program is just an excuse to bully the SNP government?

I will ensure my kids never go on this visit simply because they are good kids with no Nazi urges that I can see. I'd rather they witnessed the more current atrocities in this World such as the illeagal war in Iraq and what it has done to the tribes folks there and perhaps Darfur or DR Congo.

That way, they might learn not to vote in a war mongering political party in years to come......
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Mcsnagpile,

26/11/2008 07:46:28
The lesson to be learned form Auschwitz is, if the Communists in Germany, Spain and Italy not to mention the rest of Europe; did not have the Fascists to fight, many of us would be under a stone in a similar Siberian Stalinist concentration camp. Perhaps the Russians could subsidise trips to their old camps.
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Donnie Murdo,

Western Isles 26/11/2008 08:07:26
20 gus1940

How about going to an Old Firm game instead?
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Liberal for life,

Dunblane 26/11/2008 08:25:20
Well I suppose the SNP is the last party that would want to dissuade people away from exhibiting prejudices as they are full of members with a real "chip on their shoulder" about our English cousins, for example.

I do think however at a time of financial constriction that this kind of monies could be put to better use in schools eg investment in better equipment to help teach our kids about MODERN scientific techniques etc.
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Lianachan,

Highlands 26/11/2008 08:25:27
#7 The hootsmon is rapidly heading to the bottom of the barrel

I've considered it barrel liner for ages now. I don't know why they don't just print "Union and Brown = good, independence and Salmond = evil" repeatedly down every page. Actually, that is more or less what it does do.
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Donnie Murdo,

Western Isles 26/11/2008 08:30:27
Liberal for life,Dunblane

Prove your assertion in your first scentence.
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AbandonAllHope,

26/11/2008 08:38:57
Oh happy days



They could do a tour of death ! Rwanda, Cambodia, Poland



Where did you go on your summer trip ?

Oh we went canoeing

And you ?

We went to a death camp !

right
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subrosa,

26/11/2008 09:19:30
These trips cause problems in some schools. I'm on the FP committee at my old school and the Rector was saying that the boy and girl chosen to go on the trip refused to go in the end. Like # 17 the parents of one said 'no' they would prefer their child to see modern atrocities and the other one said he'd done some research on google and had decided he'd forego the trip. He felt the time out of school would affect his studies for his highers but there were more unspoken reasons.

Two others were chosen and one, it appears, has been very badly affected by the whole experience.

Some youngsters aren't yet emotional equipped to cope with this type of experience and the whole thing is set up to shock.

I visited the 3 Auschwitz camps, with German friends, back in the 70s before they were made 'visitor friendly'. I also visited two of them about 5 years ago.

The first experience in the 70s was by far more emotional and thought provoking. The second visit was as if the Deutsche National Trust had got their hands on it - far too graphic and the atmosphere of despair, devastation and death had vanished when they were made 'visitor attractions'.
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Alastair the First,

26/11/2008 09:26:49
A complete waste of public money.
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Queen D,

Glasgow 26/11/2008 09:40:42
Apply your considerable skills folks to find out the result of the Greenlanders referendum on independence.
90% of you out there have got to be better computer users and sleuths than me!

Modern crimes against humanity should be taught in schools , there is no need to confine education to just one, there are too many to choose from.
The Scotsman should not pat itself on the back over this , indeed it should consider the constraints now put on the tax payer by Westminster and the funding of questionable trips.
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Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 26/11/2008 09:48:46
This is the birth of a new industry called "guilt tourism" and the main purpose is to provide a nice fat income for the Holocaust Education Trust - see here:
http://www.het.org.uk/content.php
This is a very, very slick operation run by one Karen Pollock - and it's a guaranteed shed load of cash from every guilt-ridden government department and PC employee.

what we should be teaching our children is how Britain stood alone against the armed might of Germany after the blitzkrieg had smashed France, Germany, Czekoslovakia and Poland in just weeks - and fought unsupported for more than 2 years against fascism before America came on board. Britain also welcomed tens of thousands of Jewish refugees in the years from 1933-39 and allowed tens of thousands more to settle in Britain after the war. This country has no need of any guilt in respect of any of this - we sacrificed alost a million lives to defeat fascism and were left bankrupt in 1946. Ironically - it took 6 years of global war and Adolf Hitler to bankrupt Britain in 1946 - Gordon Brown and Alastair Darling have managed it after less than 18 months in office.
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Anne,

Eaglesham 26/11/2008 09:57:51
Our children would be better off visiting Culloden and Bannockburn.

Most of them don't even have a sense of their own history.
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Stan Butler,

26/11/2008 10:03:32


The fact that cybergnat posters wish to equate Auschwitz with the Highland Clearances, Bannockburn and Culloden shows exactly why these trips should go ahead.


 
  

 
 


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