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Published Date: 03 July 2009
FOREIGN Secretary David Miliband said yesterday that proposed changes – granting Ireland opt-outs on abortion, tax and military neutrality – to the disputed Lisbon Treaty on greater European Union integration would not mean Britain must ratify it again.
He denied that the concessions to Ireland were a "stitch-up" by other EU member states desperate to encourage the Irish people to drop their opposition to the treaty when they vote in a second referendum in October.

The British people were not gi
ven a chance to vote directly on the Lisbon Treaty, which creates the posts of "President of Europe" and EU foreign minister, when Labour failed to honour a manifesto pledge to hold a referendum on the issue.

Instead, the UK government secured parliamentary approval for the treaty. The Tories have promised to hold a referendum if the treaty has not been ratified by all 27 nations before they come to power – which would almost certainly result in a "no" vote in Britain.

Last month, EU leaders agreed a protocol should be drawn up to prevent treaty affecting Irish constitutional provisions on the right to life, education, tax and military neutrality.

Mr Miliband, told MPs on the European scrutiny committee: "This decision on this protocol in no way changes one jot of the Lisbon Treaty as it affects Britain and as it was passed by this parliament."

He said the leaders of all member states agreed that re-ratification was not necessary.





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  • Last Updated: 02 July 2009 9:27 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: European Union
 
1

Am Fògarrach,

03/07/2009 02:09:36
"He [Miliband] denied that the concessions to Ireland were a "stitch-up" by other EU member states desperate to encourage the Irish people to drop their opposition to the treaty when they vote in a second referendum in October.

Does anyone believe that?

"He [Miliband again] said the leaders of all member states agreed that re-ratification was not necessary."

Well, they would say that, wouldn't they?
2

Fletty73,

Stirling 03/07/2009 02:48:02
The United States of Europe is coming.
3

Leonard,

Grays, England 03/07/2009 06:22:19
British Parliament, traitors the lot of them.
4

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03/07/2009 08:26:55
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Toast,

03/07/2009 09:45:35
The people of Britain have never ratified this piece of political oppertunism,the first of labours great deceptions,no referendom
6

Geordie Lad,

03/07/2009 09:46:27
Spagan
Could you please explain how gaining independence from the UK just to hand it over to the EU makes any sense?
7

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03/07/2009 09:59:29
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frank mcbride,

lusitania 03/07/2009 10:38:47
The Lisbon Treaty seems very similar to the Treaty of Union.

Both seem to be able to be broken/circumvented, at will, by the Major party.

Although I see a number of benefits in a Confederal EU, I see none in a Federal system.

It will be encumbent on an Independent Scottish Government to put the Lisbon Treaty to the people for approval and ratification.
9

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 03/07/2009 11:49:06
I see they've changed the treaty just for Ireland, so that when they vote, they get it "right" this time.

#6 & #8
I agree with you. I don't want to stop having Scotland treated as a back-water region of England just to have it be treated as a back-water region of Europe.
10

Matt M,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 11:49:48
Clearly Ross Lydall isn't allowing facts to get in the way of his story. I didn't agree with the policy but the UK Labour Government promised a referendum on the European Constitution which subseqently collapsed, not the Lisbon Treaty which is a pale shadow and still leaves the EU as a confusing tangle of treaties. Ireland was the only EU Member state to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty as it is required under its own constition.

As for Ireland securing "opt-outs" on issues like abortion and military neutrality, the original Lisbon treaty had absolutely no impact on these issues whatsoever. As someone who was there at the time, that was a misinformation campaign promoted by Sinn Féin - the only party in the Dáil Éireann to oppose ratification of the treaty. Meanwhile the British Conservatives are characteristically hypocritical in calling for a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty while they refused one on both the Maastricht Treaty and Single European Act - both of which were far more significant in terms of European integration.
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For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 03/07/2009 12:04:02
The EU needs to get back to it's basics premise, that of being a Trade Block, and not a political union.

In a confederation of states, each state needs to have the same number of votes, namely ONE, otherwise the larger states dominate. How much does each member contribute? Simple: It would be in direct proportion to the total amount of "exports" of each member state to the other members. The more you export to other members of the union, the more you pay. "Imports" are not considered.
12

Dún Aenghus,

03/07/2009 13:42:13
In relation to Ireland,its once again the Irish people standing up to be counted, against the European bullies. Well done to the Irish.The Scots could learn something from them.
13

Rameses,

NE England 17/07/2009 17:55:26
Hopefully the Irish will reject the Treaty anyway.

Strange ..they get two votes and we get none.

What about the French and Dutch, why are their votes ignored ?

 

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