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Published Date: 04 July 2008
By LISA GRAY
VETERAN defenders Christian Dailly and David Weir have both signed new deals with Rangers.
The Scottish pair have each committed to staying at Ibrox for another year, after impressing last season.

Dailly, 34, quickly adapted to life at Rangers after joining on a short-term deal from West Ham United in January, while Weir, 38, was brough
t to Glasgow by manager Walter Smith shortly after his own return to the club 18 months ago.

Weir insists he was always going to extend his stay after discovering that a new offer was on the table. He explained: “I’m delighted. I’ve enjoyed every minute since I’ve been up here.

“Football-wise there wasn’t any decision to make. As soon as the manager said he wanted me to stay for another year, I was delighted.

“I didn’t think I’d be here for two-and-a-half years. In football you can’t afford to look that far ahead, especially at my age. So initially it was just a short-term deal, but I’m delighted now that it has stretched and stretched.”

Weir’s partnership with Carlos Cuellar in the heart of the defence was crucial to Rangers’ success last season, as they won the Scottish Cup and CIS Insurance Cup and narrowly missed out on the Uefa Cup and Clydesdale Bank Premier League trophies.

The former Everton man played a total of 68 games for both club and country in what proved to be an epic campaign for the veteran centre-half. Weir is now hoping to have a significant part to play when Rangers’ new season gets under way with a Champions League qualifier against FC Santa Coloma or FBK Kaunas later this month.

He told www.rangers.co.uk: “You want to play every game. As a player you want to be in the team week-in, week-out. I obviously want to be involved and that will be my aim. But it’s up to me to try to do that.”

Weir and Dailly were among a number of big-name players returning to Rangers to prepare for their Champions League qualifiers and the new SPL campaign. Ibrox captain Barry Ferguson was also at Murray Park after being given extra time off following last season’s exertions.



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  • Last Updated: 03 July 2008 10:35 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
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1

jerrymanders,

04/07/2008 00:13:04
Ah, the summer just gets better, and better.....
2

Barnacle Bill,

04/07/2008 00:15:36
1
Jezza

The weather wasn't that great here today, I take it was nice with you.
3

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04/07/2008 00:18:28
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jerrymanders,

04/07/2008 00:18:54
#2

The sun always shines on the righteous!
5

Barnacle Bill,

04/07/2008 00:20:05
4
Jezza

That'll be what's wrong then!
6

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04/07/2008 00:25:09
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arthurscross,

04/07/2008 00:31:05
7# Bring them on - Didn't do you much good last year. Lol You can look forward to CP 4 in a row.
8

jerrymanders,

04/07/2008 00:32:22
#7

That would be the "rock solid" defence that conceded 6 more goals than The Champions in the SPL?
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04/07/2008 00:34:28
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04/07/2008 00:43:24
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04/07/2008 00:51:31
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Fayneant,

NZ 04/07/2008 00:59:58
Great news, top signings - steady as she goes for the start of the new season.

Here the weather is nice, but looking to get stormy over the weekend.

Eedaay luvs Rangers
13

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04/07/2008 01:00:50
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Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

04/07/2008 01:06:48
KOO- EEE !

Sir Minty! Where art thou ?

Sir Minty is deep within his lair, wondering how the hell he's going to get out of this mess.
His team are now synonamous with thuggery throughout Europe and indeed the world and Sir Minty wants someone to shell out £100m just so that he can get his money back.

In our multi-cultural age, who wants to invest that kind of money in a football club that spells hatred, racism, sectarianism, violence, robbery and vandalism ?

Let's have a show of hands.......Sir Minty, you will wear that stone around your neck until you die...upon your death bed, the words "for every fiver they spend we'll spend a tenner" will reverberate around your delirious mind, hanging on to consciousness in those last moments will intensify the regret, shame and horror about what you were part off, what you bought into, what you could never rid yourself off.
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04/07/2008 01:08:16
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jerrymanders,

04/07/2008 01:08:45
#27

SAGA'S new pin up boy.
17

Fayneant,

NZ 04/07/2008 01:10:08
I can see the way this thread is going to go - earlier than usual too.
I'm off to the thread on the story on Celtic's new signing - oh wait, there isn't one!
18

jerrymanders,

04/07/2008 01:14:31
#30

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssssssssssssse
19

Barnacle Bill,

04/07/2008 01:14:42
I see the timer has been set. Degeneration will commence quickly.

31
Jezza

We're actually providing tartan travel rugs on the bench now! Still there's many a good tune played on an old fiddle.
20

Mercutio,

FALKIRK 04/07/2008 01:17:20
Celtic Rangers, rangers Celtic, projectile vomit.
21

Barnacle Bill,

04/07/2008 01:19:00
35

Did they both projectile vomit at the same time? Or am I misunderstanding you?
22

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04/07/2008 01:19:24
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Orange Supreme,

04/07/2008 01:19:48
In fairness, it's a Rangers stories. The Cectarian interlopers were trying to provoke and antagonise.

They're just getting a bit of their own medicine laced with solid truth.
24

Barnacle Bill,

04/07/2008 01:21:26
37
MJ, IF, NN

Your talent at reading between the lines is hitting new heights. You now appear to be able to read between the words. It must be very small typing.
25

jerrymanders,

04/07/2008 01:23:14
#34

BB

Next you'll be handing out sweeties as well. Don't tell me Orange Cremes! The ones with the bitter bit in the middle. They ceratainly aren't supreme.
26

Raskolnikov,

04/07/2008 01:23:29
I burst out laughing when I read this first thing this morning. While Celtic are getting rid of their deadwood, Rangers are offering theirs new contracts.

With Celtic very close to announcing a big new signing, it just gets better and better.

4 in a row coming up.
27

Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

04/07/2008 01:29:58
I hear that Balde was offered the same wage package at Hull but wants to stay at Celtic.

Either he's mad to think that he can break into the first team OR he loves sitting on his ass.

Whichever...that he has decided to stay at Celtic for another year is undoubtedly a pain in the ass....Bobo ! GTF!
28

Barnacle Bill,

04/07/2008 01:31:18
40
Jezza

I think at that age they prefer pan drops, they don't get under your plate!

41
Rask

The one difference is the players you are claiming are our 'deadwood' played for us last season and actually did a job. As I said on an earlier thread I think their experience will be valuable, especially for bringing on their replacements. What did your deadwood contribute? What do you think they'll contribute next season? Your main drains don't appear to be doing much moving, unless it's to a different seat in the stand.
29

Orange Supreme,

04/07/2008 01:31:30
I had great laughter today on hearing how Balde and Gravesen are insisting on staying for the full term of their 30 and 40k salaries because of the £1m "loyalty bonus" when they finish their contracts and leave on Bosmans.

L1ewell's digging out the old biscuit tin again.

Har! Har! Harrrrrrr!
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Orange Supreme,

04/07/2008 01:32:49
#43 It's the £1m loyalty bonus they've both got in their contracts. HA! HA! HA!

Bicsuit tin FC!
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chazbud,

04/07/2008 01:33:16
dailly's a diddy

balde is some banana, let him stay where is earning millions every year..brilliant.

deadwood? i think we both have a fair amount of that
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Orange Supreme,

04/07/2008 01:36:41
Poor wee jerrymanders has had to hide from the truth. :)
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chazbud,

04/07/2008 01:37:17
jellyman taking a beating here too? lol
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Orange Supreme,

Balde and Gravesen's multi-million pound retiremne 04/07/2008 01:40:42
Come back jellyman. Show some spine and let us toy with your tiny little mind again.

LOL
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chazbud,

04/07/2008 01:40:50
50 aye only for davis, they are not interested in cousin, hes going to end up at cardiff or hull maybe even wolves...nothing better

and we will pay £4m for davis, although i dont think he is worth it
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chazbud,

04/07/2008 01:41:36
51 jellyman is so narrow minded...its sad
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Orange Supreme,

04/07/2008 01:44:11
Oh dear. motley jizt has lowered the tone by reverting to type and indulging in r@c15m.

Tut! Tut!

He'll be throwing his ban@nas at people of different colour again!
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chazbud,

04/07/2008 01:47:07
54 thats what they do
40

Scotmans Top Pundit!,

04/07/2008 02:13:20
#27 BTO

i still dont understand

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Scotsmans Top Pundit,

04/07/2008 02:19:16
#56 isnt me its spelled wrong lol
42

Daillyman,

04/07/2008 02:21:47
Another rumoured tic target, Kewell(excuse spelling) off to Turkey on a 3 year deal.
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Scotsmans Top Pundit!,

04/07/2008 02:33:55
#56 wrong spelling
#57 no exclaimation mark

unlucky
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Fayneant,

NZ 04/07/2008 02:40:58
41 - Hey Rasky. I see you avoided defending your statement that the disapproval directed towards Kenny Miller was 'sectarian'. Guess you know when you've been found out, eh?

Also - you pinched my 'bong' crack which was initially aimed at you. Imitation in the sincerest form of flattery, don't you think?
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Fayneant,

NZ 04/07/2008 03:25:29
61 - Celtic's 7 major signings? Would that be;-

O'Dec
O'Ronaldine
O'Fadden
O'Torres
O'Henry
O'Podolski
O'Rooney

Robbing the Irish Bog Bashers Premier League of the cream of their young talent?
46

Fayneant,

NZ 04/07/2008 03:50:12
60 - he's played right back for Scotland too...
47

Colin P,

04/07/2008 04:07:05
You have to laugh at all the Celtc supporters on a Rangers thread.

How sad are you lot?

LOL!!
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Colin P,

04/07/2008 04:08:07
Even funnier is the Scotsman's editing. Some of the post refer to posts after theirs. I can only assume this is because a lot have been removed.

Pretty sad effort, Scotsman.
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Colin P,

04/07/2008 04:10:59
I have noticed certain Celtc supporters have gone on and on about Rangers bidding low for players.

Surprisingly(not) today Celtc offers a ridiculously low bid for a player and were told to get real.

You really couldn't make this up!
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Colin P,

04/07/2008 04:18:26
I think the wee ginger minger is at a loss this year as Walter has kept his thoughts to himself.
Last year, with Celtic being the richer club, WGS has outbid WS for players (who have all been flops btw).

This year Walter (or "Walter" for the fixated one) has kept quiet and left the finding of players for Celtc to WGS.

What has he come up with so far? Some wee lad from the Irish league who is the next George Best, or Aiden McGeady, or...Paddy the tea boy...or something.
51

Daillyman,

04/07/2008 04:22:57
Colin

Bent, Pulyachenko, Leko, Kewell, Deco, Polish midfield player were rumoured tic targets, and the African left back from Hamburg.

More to come.

Well on these threads anyway.
52

Daillyman,

04/07/2008 04:26:55
59 OF/STP

WS should not waste money on a centre half. Weir can play some matches there, Webster when fit can play and Papac is a centre half who played left back because of Smiths injury last season. We need some creativity in midfield that's where the money should be spent.
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Colin P,

04/07/2008 04:27:46
Daillyman,

Yes, Isn't it interesting how Celtc fans told us that Celtc didn't operate that way. They would keep things close to their chest and only bid what was appropriate for the players they really wanted?

So far, they have a top notch Irish lad who is the next C. Ronaldo (last I heard).

I think what all this tells us is that it`s actually Celtc who are skint.

hehehehe gotta love it!
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Colin P,

04/07/2008 04:29:19
67 Brian

Davis` signing is a must!
Besides him, who would you want in midfield?
55

Colin P,

04/07/2008 04:31:35
BTW, this mot juste clown..I think he must have a good collection of red noses, in aid of comic relief!
56

Fayneant,

NZ 04/07/2008 04:45:02
41 - Prince Rasky! Where are youoooo???
57

Daillyman,

04/07/2008 04:45:27
69 Colin

Steve Sidwell from Chelsea 25 year old, if the price is to high look to a loan deal. Bullard of Fulham 29 and a workhorse in midfield with some skill, and hits a great dead ball. Playing in Europe might appeal to players who have never done it.
58

Daillyman,

04/07/2008 04:48:36
35 Rasky

Speaking of deadwood remember Graveson 40k a week, Balde 28k a week, Donniti 20k a week.

Now thats what I call deadwood.
59

Daillyman,

04/07/2008 04:50:28
73 bto colin

Indee is okay, he brightens up the day. He should write for comedy on TV, wasting his talent on here.
60

Raskolnikov,

04/07/2008 06:11:27
#71 - COOOEEEY, I'm here.
61

Raskolnikov,

04/07/2008 06:12:24
What's upset Colin P today? Looks like he's blown a gasket.
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Fayneant,

NZ 04/07/2008 06:21:08
76 - Rasky baby! About time you showed your face again


I see you avoided defending your statement that the disapproval directed towards Kenny Miller was 'sectarian'. Guess you know when you've been found out, eh?

Also - you pinched my 'bong' crack which was initially aimed at you. Imitation in the sincerest form of flattery, don't you think?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 06:38:15
Morning lads from bright,sunny D...On the above topic,I'm glad that, as a Hoops fan,both players have re-signed (and resigned to 4 in a row ;@) )the question that must be asked is this..Why has Wattie neglected to reinforce a creaky defence? Both players are honest pros, but lets face it,neither are spring chickens and in a league where pace is the most valuable currency,will be found wanting...Any thoughts?
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Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 04/07/2008 06:57:46
Morning Swordsman, glad you're up and about - the standard of debate has been lower than normal so far, while the usual suspects are, I fear, already suffering from close-season melt down.

You raise a couple of good points - perhaps he's hoping to go with Cuellar and Webster or Cuellar and Papac (assuming Smith starts the season at left back), in which case Dailly and Weir will provide solid occasional cover.

Broadfoot is better left-sided rather than right, going on St Mirren form.

What he does need, if Euro 2008 is any guide to the way football is going, is more dynamism in midfield; oh forgot - Captain Fantastic must play, while negates that.

Could be an interesting start to the campaign.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 07:09:00
Star..Yup the close season brings out the worst in us all.I'm afraid...It's either the taunts of last seasons triumphs/failures or the wild predictions for the season yet to come...
As to the story above,Sounds reasonable that both players will be used spairingly.The problem then is,IF Wattie is going to change that hated 4-5-1 formation to accomodate the plethora of strikers he has bought,surely a tried and tested CH partnership is crucial?As for Broadfoot..nae harm to the boy but he makes ME nervous and I' a Hoops fan!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 07:10:40
BTO...Tip for hot weather...If you are wearing Sandals,take aff the socks...
67

Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 07:12:27
Apropos nothing..Just thinking that the transfer market is unusually quiet,even amongst the big boys..playing canny?
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Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 04/07/2008 07:20:46
Swordsman - With you on the advantages of a solid central defensive pairing. As for Broadfoot, he's just a big daft Drongan boy - I like him. He's the kind of honest Scottish player I feel both halves of the Old Firm sould be encouraging, rather than signing these badge-kissing, fly-by-night foreign imports.

If you look at last season overall - Celtic won the title, Rangers did better in the cups, so there was very litle between the two sides.

Celtic scored marginally more goals overall so deserved the title, WS appears ready to go for more goals this coming season, so it will be interesting.

I feel last season we finally saw the merits of the top-six/bottom-six split in that, in the run-in, with the other European spot in doubt, both teams were pushed by the other Scottish clubs.

A fresher Celtic coped better than a tiring Rangers and this also helped tilt the title their way. But, unless Smith uses his squad better than he did last season, you still have to fancy Celtic to stay in front.

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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 07:44:31
Star..Agreed on the badge kissers...Never ceases to amaze me that those who do that cant understand that we,on the terraces,KNOW they are playing to the gallery and that the only allegiances they have is to their pay check!
A resurgent Motherwell and Dundee Utd will hopefully mix things up,Hibs might put on a show and Hearts..well,least said,soonest mended lol
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04/07/2008 07:55:41
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 07:57:15
88 - i think most supporters of a certain age have matured beyond giving grace to the badge kissers.

It mostly appeals to the younger fans and the new phenomonon of the lady fan

the younger people are the life blood of the game and will grow out of it. However there is no excuse for the female fan.

To erradicate this problem, Riot Survivor would take these immediate steps:

1) refuse Lady supporters access to the toilets until the last man had been
2) refuse Lady supporters access to the pie stalls until the last man had been served
3) refuse Lady supporters season books until the last man had purchased
4) refuse any Lady fan with a season book entry to the stadium until all men were in their seats.

Its the way forward
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 08:08:31
Survivor...Glad to see that the unreconstructed Scottish male is alive and well!
I once took a girl to a game..(St Mirren V Brechin Scottish cup tie...Rivetting!) and she embarrassed me by asking when the tea break was...
Tina Turner...wake up to yourself...OOps! you probably do that every morning wi that patter!
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04/07/2008 08:08:51
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 08:12:02
91 - thats unfair, I am very much a man of the 21st Century. My plans do not exclude lady fans, just lays down some guidelines.

I would have them all seated together so that you could try and "fire in" at 1/2 time.

Wouldn't let any female ReaRangers fans in though. Being fare to the stewards, its nigh in impossible to tell the difference...so a full ban on ReaRangers fans is required.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 08:17:57
93..we could re-introduce those wee light blue cars at each end of the pitch and put them all in there...think of it as "care in the comunity"
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 08:19:21
95 - those cars are still seen as luxury items amongst the affluent people of Larkhall
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04/07/2008 08:24:19
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 08:26:07
Survivor..Surely you meant EFFLUENT?
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 08:26:27
97 - thank goodness our society has great pillars of virtue such as yourself. Clearly, the gene pool is the beneficiary of you and your boy.

I'd bring back hanging in this instance
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 08:30:18
97 - the fact that your boy got caught shows he is as good in the chase as your team....

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Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 04/07/2008 08:41:08
Chucky #92:

Some good points there; cannot toally agree on your view of playing v training though. Having to play so many games in such a short period leads to mental rather than physical tiredness.

One of my cousins was a pro, played goalkeeper for a middle-of-the-road English team who got lucky one season and got into the old First Division (now Premiership). He needed treatment at the end of the season for nervous exhaustion, because he knew - if he made one mistake in the game and lost a goal, they were unlikely to come back; that pressure eventually got to him.

Once the head goes, the rest follows.

Agree, Rangers' problems are mostly from the back to just behind the main striker - where the problem is what's (not) inside Boyd's head, the savvy to realise he has to improve his game or he'll be playing for Glenafton Athletic or Auchinleck Talbot before he's 30.

The Old Firm are caught in something of a trap - they cannot compete for the really good players who could play in that unique environment, the SPL and also in Europe, so they're having to buy Grade II and Grade III foreigners or take a risk on Scottish players who may or may not be able to adjust.

They could grow their own better, but, again, it's a mental thing - when you're on first team money with the Old Firm, do you have the incentive/desire to improve and do you want to swap being a king in Glasgow for a squad role elsewhere.

I remember, back in the early sixties, Inter Milan were after Jim Baxter.

Helenio Herrera, the Inter coach, said: "I will make Baxter a Prince in Milan".

Bater replied: "No thanks, I'm already a king in Glasgow".

Current OF players, not fit to lace Baxter's (or Jimmy Johnstone's) drinks - now have that attitude.

So why bother to work at your game, take the money and sh@g whatever comes up.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 09:15:54
#92 Chucky

I reckon Lafferty's versatility being able to play on the left wing is one of the reasons we signed him.

Dont be surprised to see him play more there than upfront next season. Give him a chance to settle into life at Ibrox with less pressure than playing up front.

Havnt seen much of him for Burnley but against Spain he absolutley battered them, gave the defence a torrid time and he scored a fantastic goal v Sweden showing great feet to cut inside before curling one into the top bin. Looked promising.



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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 09:31:16
103 Star

Excellent post and superb assesment of of why many of our young players dont make it or maximise their true potential.

I mean look at the shape of Boyd and young Andy Reid for Ireland who was at Spurs but now struggles to get a game for Sunderland due to his weight.
Tell me that its ot a disgrace these guys cant get their finger out and get into shape eh?
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 09:34:04
#106 Bosco

Charlie Adam is the worst culprit at Rangers. He is actually a fairly talented player with a great left foot but this is negated by the fact that he couldnt run the length of himself.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 09:36:29
JJ 107

Agree about Adam, bit like Reid, lovely close control and a very sweet peg but as you say fecking useless over 3-5 yards and the more dynmaic in yer face midfielders know this and as a result are always all over them like a rash.
88

Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 09:39:22
Bosco...Whilst I agree with your comments...I dont know what I would do if I was 20,on 10 Grand a week and every other bird wanted to sh@g me (well I had the last problem,but then,I WAS gorgeous!)...Too many players read the papers and the assessment of some old hack who,trying to fill a copy page writes the most flowery report on a performance and the dolt falls for it...Remember the new Baggio,Stevie Fulton?
Peter Marinello?,Ad Infinatum...
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Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 04/07/2008 09:46:32
Chucky, BB, JJ - I think we're starting to see a Celt ic thing here (that's with a hard K - Keltic btw); a failure to make the most of talent.

Couple of years ago I was at the Scotland v Turkey Under-21 game at Kilmarnock, Adam got stupidly sent off near the end and I saw him outside afterwards.

Shamed? Repentant? No, first time I'd seen him up close, three chins, beer gut, swagger - I wrote him off then.

That's maybe why Dailly and Weir are still doing it at their ages. Weir went through the American college system, where you perform or you're out.

He and Dailly have both got Highers, they're smarter than your average footballer - so they've looked after themselves, worked and got their rewards.

Barry Robson was released by Rangers as a kid I saw him captain their Under-14 team in the Milk Cup in Northern Ireland in 1993 - he went away with an; "I'll show them" attitude, turned his career around and, while it's taken him a long time, he's now getting his due rewards in terms of money, profile and international recognition.

Just a thought. Why is it the only "world-class" talent to come out of Scottish football in the past 25-years is Gordon Ramsey?

What does that say about our young plaeyrs and our clubs' abilities to nurture and develop talent?
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04/07/2008 09:46:36
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04/07/2008 09:55:13
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Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 04/07/2008 09:57:14
Since we've got a bit of agreement going this morning gentlemen - let's pick the Great Scottish Wasters XI.

4-4-2 formation, for starters:

Barry Holland (Kilmarnock, Scotland U-19)
Iain Nicolson (Rangers most-capped Scottish Schoolboy), ?, George Connelly, Jim Beattie (Celtic, St Mirren); Peter Marinello, Stevie Fulton, Andy Ritchie, Mark Burchill, Steven McConalogue.

Cannot think of a second centre half and have left out one or two who did get into double figures in interntional caps but should have had a lot more.
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04/07/2008 09:59:17
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 09:59:32
Relax guys...No rush to add to the three times in a row champs..Patience is a virtue.If you are unsure of the word "Virtue" look it up on wiki...
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 10:00:55
Star..Brian Reid in there ?
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Better still the U16 WC centre forward ...Kevin McGoldrick...Talent to burn but couldnae burn the calories...
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 10:08:04
NB...havent seen a "Sectarian" version of the flag that has green and orange on it..please illuminate me..

Nine...I have a Zen approach to Football and most other things..All good things come to those who wait...or hing aroon the bus stop..
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Dublin 04/07/2008 10:09:23
NB..an old Merchant Navy guy told me that you are ok until you go for a pi$$ and pull the cistern off the wall...SAvlon might help...
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 10:13:20
NB never heard Ibrox referred to in that way,but I applaud your candour,if not your morals....
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Dublin 04/07/2008 10:15:17
and two picked eggs and some beetroot...
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Bosco Bhoy,

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Dont ye see we're having a bit of craic here with genuine footie chat and then you come in with some rubbish about 'sectarian flags' and all.

FFS give us all a break.

121 ninny

See you disappeared after your Sunday evening meltdown last weekend. Was it tail between the legs for a few days?
Hopefully youve come back a reformed character.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 10:24:26
The big Cup that really matters

Celtic 1
Rangers 0 - Zero - Nil - Nothing - Never
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 10:28:58
Rangers fans, well some at least, are very poor at hiding their pain and general frustration at their current dilema of being in the shadow of the mighty Celtic Football Club.

I do remember as a teenager the RFC 9IAR era and how fecking hard it was to stomach. the only saving grace was i was a young buck who more often or not was more focused in my next sexual encounter than who hoisted the league flag in August.

Must be painful now to be an adult supporting bear with no distractions.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 10:33:10
IFFHS Ranking ( WTF? )

Rangers fans cluthing at straws eh?

How sad and tragic is this from the former club of the establishment?

ninny
you never have and never will see anything sectarian from me but mores the pity we cant ssay the same about your last Sunday evening posts eh?
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 10:33:21
Never cease to be amazed how so many of the sellick mindit know all about the transfer negotiations and contracts at Ibrox, the must be good mates with Wullie McKay!
As for Weir and Dailly, player/coach roles in developing younger players for the respective positions, we dont need to buy midfielders, what we should do is bring through the lads from the under 19's who have just completed the u19 double again! and nurture the talent, Furman, Shinnie, Kinsborough even? Fleck from an attacking midfield slot? would be the way forward perhaps?
NB, sounds like a STI, sure your not a dhim in disguise?
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 10:34:44
Rangers fans obsessed by the Irish tricolour and the 'shades' of the colours on it.

You canny make it up.

Only in Scotland.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 10:35:55
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I would say after Manchester, very, very, very 'famous' indeed!
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 10:37:10
150 Nervous

Yer ma not tell you she preferred the back of my Cortina.
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Summerston 04/07/2008 10:37:42
Dont worry NB, we all had it once before. See the GP, he'll administer a cream. Give it 2-3 days, sorted!
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 10:43:24
A wee gem from ninny last week revealing his sinister side.

"The sectarian idiots of the minority immigrant support of the wee team are all asleep"
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Pattie O'Dores,

In The Conservatory 04/07/2008 10:44:17
I can see what Sir Minty is up to here. His plans to build a casino at Ibrox didn't materialise so he had to come up with an alternative revenue earning scheme to prop up his ailing club so he's opted for an old folks home. In weir and Dailly he has his first two customers.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 10:48:34
nervous

What sectarian flag?

Why is it sectarian?

ninny

"Bosco thinks that Celtic posters can do and say what they like"

Wrong, a bigot is a bigot wether Green or blue.

"anything related tae Rangers is sectarian and should be banned as it is a disgrace"

Wrong, some things related to RFC needs changing just like it did at CFC when Fergus took over and Murray has made great strides at Ibrox were their are many fans who unlike you are not bigots.

"What does that tell you about him. "

More importantly what does it say about you that you lie and try and distort my opinions and generally misrepresnt.

Your not only a bigot but also a sad loser.
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 10:49:03
Bhosco,
yesterday you were saying that Orange was originally a catholic colour when the whole flag debacle kicked off, so please get a grip!
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Dublin 04/07/2008 10:49:33
And it was going so well.....A wee bit of banter,reasonable (for this forum,at least)footie related issues ..Now back to the "My dad is bigger than your dad" pi$h...makes me want to go to the pub...erm,now there is an idea!
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 10:52:01
163 ninny

Is it just remarkable you cant prove that false lie?

You and i both know i have never used the word h-un and many RFC genuine fans will testify to this.

Your so insecure that you feel the need to tar me with the disease that affects you so profoundly.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 10:52:55
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I'll accept your apology once you get back from confirming that was a different Celtic poster.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 10:53:53
A wee gem from ninny last week revealing his sinister side.

"The sectarian idiots of the minority immigrant support of the wee team are all asleep"
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 10:54:48
Lads ..NO ONE has dibs on a colour,flag,idea or word...Check out Lenny Bruce monologue re empowering a word..Bottom line is if you EMPOWER a word you give it an inordinant amount of influence..Too much,if you are a reasonable ,well balanced human being...RELAX!
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 10:56:31
#171
perhaps it's a clone?
just checked the posts from yesterday, your there saying it, I'm also on when I was otherwise engaged, punctuation added and bile spewed.
On the balance of probability I will apologise but the claim was made, perhaps not from yourself in hindsight.
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 10:57:18
Its going downhill rapidly again....
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 10:58:20
172..Congrats mate,in the 18 months I have been posting here,that is the most RIDUCULOUS post I have ever seen...have a lie down in dark room..please..I IMPLORE you!
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 11:02:16
#176
Who cares?
Tricolour - represents the Irish history of sellick, who claim to be scottish but then Irish at the same time, dual nationality perhaps.
Union Colours - Representative of the United Kingdom, Saltire very evident within it, designed by a scotsman as a celebration of the parts played in the Union.
From a personal point of view, lion rampants and saltires all the way, much prefer them and on balance, where do you see more?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 11:02:31
Pedant that I am..That should have read RIDICULOUS..
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 11:05:23
Bringing it back to the point, Weir and Dailly, 2 very experienced players who have performed rather well considering their 'so old' have renewed contracts providing a guiding hand for younger players coming through. All in all not a bad deal, lets face it, when they had played the same amount of games as the 'spry' sellick defence they had a far better record, playing another half season seemed to be a factor....
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:05:52
A wee gem from ninny last week revealing his sinister side.

"The sectarian idiots of the minority immigrant support of the wee team are all asleep"
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 11:06:17
#181
yeah but 'RIDUCULOUS' has got a kinda camp bond villan ring to it....
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Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 04/07/2008 11:07:33
Swordsman - Sorry, been working for the past hour or so so we've kinda lost the thread, which in any case has somewhat been taken over by the tit-for-tat brigade.

Brian Reid wasn't on my list because his problems were largely due to him having a bad case of Ibrox Knee. He had a good career, though, but not the great one he might have had and I think he'll do well as Ayr United boss.

Kevin McGoldrick, good shout. There was also a Dundee United kid in that squad who fell away once he became Duncan Ferguson's gofer at Tannadice.

Chucky - take your point on George Connelly's mental problems.

#172, I'm with Swordy, ridiculous post.

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Pattie O'Dores,

04/07/2008 11:08:03
'Dailly and Weir happy to continue Ibrox careers'

Of course they are. At 34 and 38 respectively they must be delighted (and surprsed) that any club would offer them a contract. I wonder what West Ham and Southampton fans (with regards to Dailly) and Everton fans (with regards to Weir) think of this as neither players were good enough to get into their first XIs. West Ham's, Southampton's and Everton's dross are Rangers' stars. Says it all really!
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 11:08:24
is there not a religion forum for this shi'te?
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Dublin 04/07/2008 11:08:24
Perhaps a song moment here...Check it on Youtube...Either Cara Dillon or Sean Tyrell singing "The 12th of July(Lament for the Children)" kinda sums up the way I feel about the whole shebang...
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:10:00
We went from having the craic about fat gits who could not hack for their respective teams to sectarian signing policies and how they were not really that sectarian.


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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 11:10:17
#189
or should we be a bit more hopeful and have Ebony&Ivory?
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 11:10:35
although it was terrible!
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04/07/2008 11:11:15
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Just a wee prob with RC's methinks.
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04/07/2008 11:11:40
End of the day its all a pile of shi'te
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Dublin 04/07/2008 11:12:17
Star..."Working?" on a Friday?..Didnt know about Reid's knee Thought he'd go far but with hindsight,maybe a step too far...Interesting that both players were at Morton..Too many nights in Tokyo Joes/Vicky Carriage,I fear..
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:12:40
A wee gem from ninny last week revealing his sinister side.

"The sectarian idiots of the minority immigrant support of the wee team are all asleep
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191..Better than "I just called to say I love you"...Marginally lol
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Christ! He's now an extra on "Holby City"..Is there no BEGINNING to this man's talents?
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04/07/2008 11:21:15
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After contributing post 172 you have no way back so waffle away all ye want but your card is clearly marked my son.
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 11:23:29
what an idiot.

IT'S ARGUMENT BY THE WAY.

Poor schooling. The figures suggest that kids in Catholic schools are far better educated.

Would you like an ARGUEMENT about it Nervous?
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Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

04/07/2008 11:25:40
It is around 8 weeks until Celtic play SS at CP.

At this time in the transfer window, prices and wage demands are at their highest...it's once the window is drawing to a close that the bargaining power flips over to the buyer.

It's like selling your house when you've already bought a new house. If the first payment on the new mortgage isn't due for 5 months, you will hold out for the best price possible, but when you're down to the last 2-3 months, and there is still no sign of a firm bid, you have to think about lowering your expectations.

Celtic are playing this absolutely right. Why pay £3m for a player wanting £25K a week when that could fall to £2m and £20K a week ?
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:30:39
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"The sectarian idiots of the minority immigrant support of the wee team are all asleep"


Are you saying that you didnt make the above post last Sunday?
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 11:31:27
Feel happiness and rejoice that we are all Mulatto's.

Elsewise we would be members of the royal family and have 12 toes....on the one hand!!

heres to the deepening of the gene pool!
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Bilbo Baggins,

Underhill 04/07/2008 11:31:37
Nervous - yet again coming on with untrue statements. Here are three to begin with -

European Cups:
Celtic 1
Rangers 0

European Final Riots:
Reangers 2
Celtic 0

3 in a row and counting. We welcome the chase...
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Dublin 04/07/2008 11:31:45
Hi Minty..As Sean Connery (used to be a Hoops fan,but as a fervernt Scots Nat decided to support that "Quintessential" British club,Rangers)would say.."you are a sh*te for shore eyes..."
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:32:20
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What shortcomingS

Still no proof of me using the hu-n word but thats no surprise is it as i have never used it?

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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:33:08
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"The sectarian idiots of the minority immigrant support of the wee team are all asleep"


Are you saying that you didnt make the above post last Sunday?
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Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

04/07/2008 11:34:21
Take Samaras. Man City want £3m and he wants £25K a week.

It looks as though Celtic are interested, but not at these prices.

Samaras has been back from euro 08 for a few weeks, but there are no reports of any other bids.
If there are no firm bids in the next 3-4 weeks, both Man City and Samaras will have to reconsider their positions....in fact, I's say they they're at that stage now, but I guess they'll hold out for another few weeks yet.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:34:24
ninny


Are you floundering wee man?

Please do tell me you have something more in the locker?
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04/07/2008 11:34:59
Riot Survivor - the ladies choice for reproduction instincts....keeping the gene pool deep and wide
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 11:36:06
noneinarow is always on here attacking cyber bullies for trying to enlighten him.

Amoeba.
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 11:37:18
I hate ReaRangers...is this the support group??

I've came to the right place then.

Hello...I am the Riot Survivor and I hate ReaRangers

Join me!!
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:37:49
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After post 172 you have lost all credibility not just with fair CFC posters but even the neutrals out there.

"it wisnae really a sectarian signing policy, you got o rang it wi those bloody fen-ians that made us do it"

Comedy genius.
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Dublin 04/07/2008 11:38:28
NB.."Deflector shields?" are you a trekkie as well...God help you,boy! Set Phasers to stun!!!!!!!!!!
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:39:05
218 ninny

Still not answering those tough questions are ye?

Here we go again.

"The sectarian idiots of the minority immigrant support of the wee team are all asleep"


Are you saying that you didnt make the above post last Sunday?
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:40:56
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"You are also driven by your hatred of Rangers and Prods as post 193 would suggest"

Please do tell how " Just a wee prob with RC's methinks" demonstrates a hatred for RFC and Prods?
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:41:27
218 ninny

Still not answering those tough questions are ye?

Here we go again.

"The sectarian idiots of the minority immigrant support of the wee team are all asleep"


Are you saying that you didnt make the above post last Sunday?
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:43:17
ninny

Is this online meltdown 2.

Are we in the space of a week witnessing another tragic implosion of a young man?
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:45:12
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Never bullied and never know any prods as a child but certainly at uni most of my mates were good Ulster prods who knew a thing or 2 about religion and tolerance. Things you clearly dont.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:46:36
ninny

Why cant you answer the simple question: did you make that post last Sunday?

Are you ashamed by it now, do you regret it now?
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:48:02
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3 posters have already tagged that post as utter tosh so go away and work out how to regain some credibility.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:49:32
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Scared to admit what you believe in, stand for, i suppose on a public forum such as this its rather intimidating to come out and openly admit your true deep feelings.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:50:07
ninny

Why cant you answer the simple question: did you make that post last Sunday?

Are you ashamed by it now, do you regret it now?
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 11:50:31
Ninny Narrow of Ra Peepul...let me commence your therapy.

American MD and genius Deepak Chopra has researched that the average human has 60k thoughts per day. 99.9% of them are the same day after day. These are the thoughts which determine our existance, our outlook on the world and ultimately our realities.

By tuning into the silence which circulates us all, it is believed that we can pick up the frequencies which will give us new thoughts and change our perceptions.

It is even believed that focusing these new thoughts and with the power of intent, we can actually change reality at a quantum level.

So - if you continue with the thoughts you have day on day, you will continue to be what you are day to day.

A complete dHUNderheid.

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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:51:20
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Come out of that corner and answer the question now boy!
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234.."Why would any whiter than white non sectarian poster ..." HUH?Racist too,now?
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04/07/2008 11:53:30
ninny

Still reluctant to admit what you believe in, it must be difficult on a public forum such as this to come 'out' as its rather intimidating to come out and openly admit your true deep feelings about those '"immigrants"
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Nah..Just joking ,man..Relax and enjoy the day,Its Friday FFS...;@)
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 11:57:11
NB - why not??? theres HUNners of fantastic sectarian bile from the usual fHUNsters all pledging allegiance to ReaRangers.

Why is the humour lost when the Riot Survivor weighs in?

dHUNderheid!!

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224..It wisnae "Simply the best's" boay...? wis it?
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 11:57:46
Its nearly lunch time and i have a front lawn to cut and the fence to paint and all i have to show for this morning efforts is a feelgood buzz ( limited i might add) of putting some manners on ONE of the forum bigots in ninny.

Must go now as he seems to have recoiled sufficiently back into his hole that enables me to go about my business with a smile on my face.

Hail Hail
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 12:00:46
ninny

Here we go again.

"The sectarian idiots of the minority immigrant support of the wee team are all asleep"


Why cant you answer the simple question: did you make that post last Sunday?

Are you ashamed by it now, do you regret it now?
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Plonker,

04/07/2008 12:01:19
231 - Royalty

I think the irony of your last statement may have passed you by, bearing in mind you've signed Kenny the Badge Kisser and the other guy from Transylvania.

Perhaps the following definition may help you understand the error of your ways:

"The term "blue chip" is commonly used to describe athletes who are being targeted to be drafted by professional sports teams. "Blue chip" players have proven themselves to be amongst the best at their respective positions in their sports and are more sought after by professional teams than other players. They are typically perceived as "can't miss" prospects who are desired by every team regardless of the team's situation. Blue chip athletes are likely to have an immediate impact on teams that acquire them and have proven skills rather than speculative or untapped potential."

No one in this footballing backwater's can sign such star quality. No one. Not even Sir Hugh Jeego.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 12:02:08
250 Nervous

Community sevice is fine,still get out every weekend for a wee ride in my Cortina.
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 12:04:01
NB - its OK, I forgive you...its the pain of wanting to feel superior whilst witnessing everything you thought made you superior is diminishing.

Lets just have a laugh and a joke whilst we watch the good ship ReaRangers and Raging Ranger Syndrom Sufferers onboard sink without a trace.

is it 1 - nope, is it 2 - nope, is it 3 - CORRECTOMUNDO!!

4 coming right up!
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 12:05:30
No backbone Ninny

Here we go again.

"The sectarian idiots of the minority immigrant support of the wee team are all asleep"


Why cant you answer the simple question: did you make that post last Sunday?

Are you ashamed by it now, do you regret it now?
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 12:07:23
256 ninny

"Never knew any prods as a child is the indicator that tells us why you are such a poor excuse for a human"

What would it mean if you grew up in Damascus or Agentina and didnt know any prods?

What a tube!
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Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

04/07/2008 12:07:34
I was quite surprised by Virgo's outburst. He obviously feels quite bitter about the fact that his career stalled at Celtic.
He was put out on loan, and obviously failed to impress at that club too.

No other clubs were beating a path to Celtic's door.

It doesn't reflect very well on his maturity when he refuses to accept any personal responsibility for his career hitting the buffers. It is a character trait which instantly draws my contempt.


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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 12:11:12
No backbone Ninny

Here we go again.

"The sectarian idiots of the minority immigrant support of the wee team are all asleep"


Why cant you answer the simple question: did you make that post last Sunday?

Are you ashamed by it now, do you regret it now?
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Teary Ennui,

04/07/2008 12:11:55
"Obviously Rearrangers fans voted Greig as THEIR Greatest Ever Player" (#262)

No, Greig was voted "the Greatest-Ever Ranger", for his service to the club in various capacities.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 12:15:33
Yep the grass is a calling. Waste of time trying to get ninny to be a man and take responsibility for his actions and words.

Seems his only strategy is to to attempt to tar me with the same vile condition he suffers from without i mght add any evidence but that is his way.

Anyway to the decent bears and Celts out there i say keep it clean and the morons will move on.

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Teary Ennui,

04/07/2008 12:19:06
#265,

Don't be so touchy James. Even you can get something wrong. :0)
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 12:20:40
Re Virgo - there were some decent posts earlier about players conditioning and some professionals lack of dedication.

I remember not long after a game in which Celtic lost, the bold adam was pictured boarding the players bus with a can of coke and a packet of crisps in hand.

if he was one of those natural athletes (such as the Riot Survivor) he would get away with that...he wasn't. There in lied his problem.

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04/07/2008 12:22:40
at times the actions of some parts of the gers support make me ashamed to be a rangers fan

reading threads like these every day are worse. they make me ashamed to be scottish.

and its plainly obvious who, from both sides of the OF divide, are just intollerant saddos. more to be pitied than scorned i guess. you do sometimes wonder how many generations its going to take however, till all this guff is firmly behind us
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Dublin 04/07/2008 12:25:44
NB I find it amazing that you are SO upset about the unveiling of a statue at CP honouring the founder of our club.If there was a blessing (so WHAT!),surely the veneration of a Marist Priest,who,in addition to his role with the inception of Celtic, helped the poor in the East end of Glasgow should be lauded...Rather that, than the Rallying point(AND faux church service) for the Orange Order that is Ibrox..Discuss?
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 12:27:53
where did you get your vast life experience nineinro?
Masonic lodge?
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Galway 04/07/2008 12:31:15
Yeah # 270

Great point and although I am not Scottish I get your comment. I would like so see more individuals be more tolerant. Here in Ireland we have long realised the importance of trying to listen to the other side.

Maybe Scotland could learn something from us. Look at McGuiness and Paisley.

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Dublin 04/07/2008 12:33:14
#279..All well and good until you play the Tribe...lol
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04/07/2008 12:34:26
279 - you're 100% right. But remember, you are on a forum here where even your name will cos several of the symptom sufferers to incite another riot
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Swordsman,

Dublin 04/07/2008 12:36:29
James...Fancy a wee walk in Edinburgh next June....? Bring a helmet and a stab vest...
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Galway 04/07/2008 12:36:50
#280

Boring and so much nonsense.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 12:38:56
#270 YEAHYEAHYEAH

I agree mate. Not only that its boring. Im gonny try and change the direction of the thread.

Best World Eleven:

Buffon
Lahm Cannavaro Puyol Alves
C Ronaldo Iniesta Sneider Giggs
Messi Torres
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 12:39:52
Thread starts with a bit of football banter, then the education system, over to flag colours, fence painting and grass cutting, sectarian claims, rioting, statues, then Nem of William with the Masonic angle.

Just another day on the Scotsman threads.
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 12:41:11
walking round Govan doesn't equate to travelling the world.

Can't remember Bosco from school. Though i'm sure it would have been a pleasure.

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James Connolly,

04/07/2008 12:41:12
Swordsman

Am i right but you are Scottish living in Dublin?

Please tell me why so many of your fellow Scots are interested in my nations history, flag etc etc

Any why the obsession with the Catholic Church?

Most Catholics dont go near mass and many Catholic countries are only in name so why is it that a significant minority of Scots run around like its the bloody 16th centuary?
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04/07/2008 12:42:55
What do you expect Daillyman? This is an old firm discussion. Over 100 years of mindless bigotry that people need to keep alive.
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James Connolly,

Galway 04/07/2008 12:45:22
#286 nineinro

You never did answer Bosco question did you?
Travelled the world but you have problems with immigrants?
Strange.

And bad manners to call someone names behind thier back.
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Dublin 04/07/2008 12:45:37
Dman..Dont mock the afflicted..There, but for the grace of god (TIM/PROD version.tick as applicable)go I.....
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Pat the Hat,

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From my lofty vantage point, I see some some heartening signs that more and more Bears are turning on this board's resident bigots and liars, Nervous Barear'se and nininro braincells.

This thread was a fun and informative discussion on football until this pair turned up with their petty hatreds and bile. As per…

Anyway, it will be interesting to see if Grandpa Weir can emulate his very successful first full season. Depends a lot on whether the Thread Bears can keep hold of Cuellar, I think.
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Dublin 04/07/2008 12:55:15
James...True that I'm Scots, but of Irish extraction (My grandfather was a Dentist,BOOM-BOOM!) A large proportion of West,Central Scotland are of Irish extraction.This caused much consternation amongst the local population who resented the influx (Concerns about jobs etc)...Strangely,they never saw any problem with the colonisation of Ireland (Go figure!)Since the late 1800's there has been a fairly low key (Thankfully)uneasy truce between both sides of the community...A potted history,But there we have it...Me personally? Couldn't give a flying F*ck...Hoops fan and PROUD of it..Have many 'gers fans as friends too...To quote Rabbie Burns.."We are all Jock Tamson's Bairns"...
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Dublin 04/07/2008 12:59:55
Ohh Ninenro..If that was a retraction,it was VERY poor...Read you own post VERY slowly,mate...and think.
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Galway 04/07/2008 13:01:30
I have a cousin who married a young Hamilton fella a few years back and just recently they returned home to live in the Irish speaking part of Galway near Clifden.

This young man who is Rangers daft since childhood is equally in love with Irish culture particularly the language and literature. I asked him at a family gathering last month why is it so many of his fellow Rangers fans despise Ireland and he says this is really only a recent trend a bit like the rabid anti English sentiment and can be detected fromt the 1980's onwards.
In his own opinion he believes Celtic fans who embrace the whole Irish thing help encourage this but still he regrets for many Rangers fans its as simple as Irish = Catholic.
He drinks in pubs when home around Ibrox on matchday and laughs at the idea of taking his wife into one of them for a drink.
How true is this?
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 13:06:11
#302 Pat

I dont think Weir will play as many games next season. He will be there as cover and to lend an experienced hand to the other centre backs be it Webster (if EVER fit),Papac, or someone new. I would like to see Papac given a go as i thought he, while never an LB, did well for us last season. He deserves a shot at his natural position.

The difficulty is though because of the CL qualification a new partnership is taking a great risk. I could see Weir start those games and a different CB being blooded over the first part of the season.
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James Connolly,

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303 nineinro

So you did say that and Bosco isnt a liar then?

Happy you cleared that up.

The only issue now is how bad is it what you said.

I have read the quote and its pretty poor and to justify as just a wind up says more about you than anything else could.

Looks like Bosco had you pefectly summed up.

No backbone he said.
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James Connolly,

04/07/2008 13:13:06
304 Swordsman

Would you feel fine about raising your kids in Scotland?

Would they be treated as second class citizens on any level or is this a thing of the past?

Listening to the Hamilton lad many still within the majority population hold deep feelings about the 'Paddys'
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 13:15:50
#308 James

There are pubs in certain parts where it would not be wise to announce you are Celtic minded. Equally there are pubs down the Gallowgate where it would be folly to announce you are a Rangers fan.
I would imagine every city in the world with a football rivalry would have this.
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James Connolly,

04/07/2008 13:18:57
#314

Very true.
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Teary Ennui,

04/07/2008 13:19:20
As it happens, a study done on sectarianism for Glasgow City Council found that there is a higher proportion of Catholics in the Rangers support than there is of Protestants in the Celtic support. It also found that the proportion of Protestants in the Rangers support is a good bit lower than the proportion of Catholics in the Celtic support.
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James Connolly,

04/07/2008 13:22:33
#315 Nineinro

"It`s not a retraction ... just a confession"

No backbone, he was right.

So going by your logic if you call someone a nig8er or whatever its fine as long as you claim it was only part of a wind up.

Sorry you have lost that moral arguement.

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Dublin 04/07/2008 13:24:17
315...Cant you just treat people as such,rather than compartmentalise them into Us,Them and the Other...
James..Scotland is FABULOUS,but there are aspects of the culture,mainly in the west central belt that makes it a bit iffy...Most people are fine,but as ever,the idiots take centre stage..
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04/07/2008 13:24:32
320 nineinro

"preferential treatment"

Can you please explain?
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Ninenro...Do you read the Daily Mail?
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James Connolly,

04/07/2008 13:27:41
#322 Swordsman

But would you feel 100% sure your kids in growing up in Scotland would get a fair crack of the whip and never be disadvantaged for coming from a, how does nineinro put it, immigrant and minority group background?
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04/07/2008 13:29:39
Worlds Greatest Eleven
4-3-3

Cassias (another great tourney and it will be Artur)

Alves (defo at right back)
Puyol
Canavarro
Evra (struggling at LB, could've gone Boswinga- sounds painful)

Gerrard
Essien
Xavi

Messi
Van Nilstilroy
Ronaldo

Go get em Pistol Pete



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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 13:30:32
Seriously, do you lot not get bored with this sh*t?

By all means make your point and defend your club and beliefs but surely if someone doesnt get your point of view after all this time the chances are they never will. This applies equally to BOTH sides.

I suppose agreeing to disagree and gettin back to fitba are out of the equation?
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James Connolly,

04/07/2008 13:31:09
#326 Nineinro

What i and many others will find offensive is your term
"minority immigrant support" that is heavily influenced by bigotted and racist sentiment.

You know what you are so lets stop pretending.
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James Connolly,

04/07/2008 13:33:21
#331

Yes you are right.

What would you like to see your manager do or buy before the start of the new season?
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 13:33:47
#328 SOR

Good team mate. LB and LM was where i was struggling too. Probably would have went wi Evra if i had thought of him.

So, examples of other great LM's?
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 13:35:41
337 aye - aidenho!!

DUCK!!!
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 13:35:53
#333 NB

See post 309 re the central defence.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 13:36:54
#339 SOR

lol! I walked right intae that one!
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 13:37:14
338 - Ninny, do yourself a favour and bail out.

you're going through the Glasgow Council Housing Policy to BBC newsreaders.

It was funny earlier, but its getting exhausted now
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#327 James,my kids would certainly get a fair crack of the whip if they went to my school..OOOPS!Tim abuse ahoy!
NB love the fact you are bereft of ideas re the "Sectarian Bo!!ox" so you getback to the topic at the top of this very large page...Kool
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 13:39:43
#335 James

I reckon we need some more strikers. ;)

Seriously though, i feel a right back and pacy, creative midfielder are most in need.

I reckon Whittaker can do a job at RB for us but needs competition. If we dont buy a left back i will presume Smith is making good progress.
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Swordsman,

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Doncha just love the "All inclusive" 'gers support? Its all in the xenophobic script of their fave ditty.."No one likes us,we dont care" and by extension "we dont like anyone,so f*ck off"
Song moment..."Whats so funny 'bout peace,love and understanding?"
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NB..Billy raised the Original Big Ears aloft in 67..Champions of Europe...LOLOLOLOL
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James Connolly,

04/07/2008 13:50:01
#346 Nineinro

One can only imagine you frothing at the mouth when you see those dark skinned boys reading the 6 o'clock news. God help the TV if the guy is black and called Declan.

#344
Swordsman

So your saying no more 'institutional' bariers to overcome for Irish Catholics in Scotland. Level playing field all the way in 2008.

Great i was just wondering especially when i listen to the Hamilton lad how fair his representations of Scotland are.
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 13:50:15
313 N B.

Who gives a care what kind of statue and who it is dedicated to at Parkhead.

Its their club they can do what they want, as Gers supporter I don't care who the tic support erect monuments to, its their choice.

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04/07/2008 13:51:35
350 - Riot Survivor is the truth!

348 - a fundamental difference to your point is that what Brother Walfrid done for a community at a time when they were unwelcome settlers in this country, was to give them Celtic....for that alone he has been correctly remembered.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 13:53:57
#354 Dailly

Iv tried to get it back to fitba mate but they are not having it.
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James Connolly,

04/07/2008 13:54:42
350 Nineinro

Immigrants, minority groups, red necks anybody left for you to point the finger at?

Oh and yes your not a bigot.

LOL
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JealousyJealousy

There were times last season, when Caldwell and McManus were struggling for a defensive understanding, that I silently cursed that we had not thought to bring in an experienced campaigner like Weir.

He had a great season. I'm interested that you think he will only be back-up? I thought that was what he was bought for in the first place. Once again, he might have something to say about that.

Either way, I think he will struggle to be as effective as will, I also think, Rangers. Having bought three forwards, Wattie must play a more expansive game and that will put more pressure on an already make-shift defence.

Or am I whistling past the graveyard? lol!
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James Connolly,

04/07/2008 13:56:33
I thought Torres was pretty poor in the Euros and he often stumbled over the ball but everybody had him down as star player.

Didn't see it myself.
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Dman..Here! here!..I personally love the two legged horse,El Fideldo, on Woodlands road ...No agenda ,something funny...BTW when I'm home,the sight of Wellington outside the Stirling library/GOMA with a traffic cone on his napper cracks me up.....
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 13:57:25
359 - JC, don't keep Ninny going. He'll be preparing a post on paedophilia and the Catholic church.

Probably a cut and paste job from the one the other day.

It really lowers the tone and ruins the thread for everyone.
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 14:04:49
363 S o R

"It really lowers the tone and ruins the thread for everyone"

Why is that never said to Ballywho/Pax/or the man of many names as he has been called.

Sad isn't it.
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 14:06:34
365 - cos he's funny and obviously (or hopefully) a parody.

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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 14:07:01
as opposed to a PaRODY
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 14:07:39
that was a joke..as much to make myself laugh as anything else..
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04/07/2008 14:09:31
#364 NB

Jock Stein: Protestant and Celtic legend.
Danny McGrain: Protestant and Celtic legend.
Kenny Dagliesh:Protestant and Celtic legend

and so many more.


"defined and limited" indeed.

Yes if only your club was so fortunate to have that type of roll call from the past.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 14:10:37
#360 Pat

I see your point. Personaly i would be happy with this in the name of progrss. To me thats what football is all about. Last season was a means to an end that only just fell short but i for one would not accept another season playing that style of football

What about you? Are you of the opinion that Caldwell's couple of months of decent form have erased the memories of his entire career and that is now good enough to make up half your CB partnership? If you want to stand still fair enough but do think thats progress or do you reckon youl buy another CB?
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JealousyJealousy

There were times last season, when Caldwell and McManus were struggling for a defensive understanding, that I silently cursed that we had not thought to bring in an experienced campaigner like Weir.

He had a great season. I'm interested that you think he will only be back-up? I thought that was what he was bought for in the first place. Once again, he might have something to say about that.

Either way, I think he will struggle to be as effective as will, I also think, Rangers. Having bought three forwards, Wattie must play a more expansive game and that will put more pressure on an already make-shift defence.

Or am I whistling past the graveyard? lol!
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 14:19:20
#372 Pat

Did you post exactly the same post as the one i answered on purpose?
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 14:20:02
News Just In:

Walter Smith recently went to a Glasgow Pub and asked for 20 straight whiskeys.

The barman lined up 20 glasses and started to pour one after the other.

Walter began drinking each whiskey immediately as it was poured.

"Whhhoooaaa calm down there" stated the barman

"you'd drink like this if you had what I have" replied Walter.

"What huv ye got? 2 Auld decrepid defenders? Strikers who don't score goals? Is that why you drink so much"

"mibbes - but naw"

"what huv ye got then"

"50p GIRFUY" and bolted out the door.
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Alliz,

04/07/2008 14:28:37
Jock Stein: Pools agent, not "celtic minded" enough to be a director

Danny McGrain, Kenny Dagliesh ever read about their treatment in the dressing rooms due to them not being "celtic minded". Only Billy McNeil had enough christian spirit in him to treat them well (may be he was only half "celtic minded"
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 14:33:57
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No place for Larsson?? How I wished he played in blue.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 14:33:57
#377 NB

With Kenny Miller as sub.
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Pat the Hat,

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374 JJ

Sorry, mate. I thought I'd moved the discussion along a bit. I'm doing a shift today so perhaps I'm not paying enough attention.

I'll try to do better.
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 14:38:56
Lionel Letizi
Jonas Thern
Bert Konterman
Paolo Vanoli
Emerson
Nuno Capucho
Basile Boli
Stephane Guivarch
Peter Van Vossen
Filip Sebo
Flo
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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 14:40:03
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No answer to #370 mate?
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 14:45:54
Barry Fergufson as well. He has to be the most overrated player in Scotland. Ever.
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04/07/2008 14:47:33
The Might Celts to hammer the ReaRangers:

Artur Boruc
Danny McGrain (if you can include 6 months of 1/2 decent mutton, this is a cert at the end of his career)
Marc Rieper - dominant and classy
Alan Stubbs - 60 yard passes on a half pence
Tom Boyd - exceptional going forward and in defence

Paul McStay - the maestro 'nuff said
Paul Lambert - maybe Scotlands only genuine world class payer of the last 10 years.
Petrov - outstanding box to box

Paulo Di Canio - nutter, but most gifted player to play in Scottish League in last 20 years
Henrick Larsson - Legend
Chris Sutton - complete centre forward.

Riot SUrvivors prediction against previously posted ReaRangers team.

Mighty Celtic 6 ReaRangers 2

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Jealousy,jealousy,

04/07/2008 14:48:33
#387

Nah, that honour without a shadow of a doubt go's to Paul Mc-Stay in ma comfort zone.
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 14:53:02
Fergufson had to run back to Ibrox with his tail between his legs. Couldn't cope with playing against decent opposition ever week and couldn't get Irn Bru in Blackburn apparently.

He was made captain only to appease the chairman who questioned the manager about spending so much money on a dud.
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 14:59:43
Who mentioned 5'2 as too small for the modern era? Did you watch Spain? Pure technique.

How tall is Messi?

You've been watching Rangers toooooo long. You don't need to punt it forward to some 6ft plus oaf (mcculloch) and then hopefully win a throw in midway inside the opposotion half.
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04/07/2008 15:01:41
Barry Ferguson argument has been done to death. Basically, if you insist that he's a dud, you call into question the judgement of Walter Smith, Dick Advocaat, Craig Brown, Mark Hughes, Berti Vogts, Alex McLeish, Graeme Souness, and , I'm sure, George Burley, who have all not only made him a virtual automatic choice, but also made him Captain.

Or maybe someone on here is more knowledgeable?
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 15:01:49
Defunnct ECC? Which planet you on? Have a close look at the trophy Man Utd picked up in MOscow. Celtic's name is on it.

Honestly, what drivel.
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 15:03:49
I would certainly question Souness's judgement. He can't buy a job these days.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

04/07/2008 15:06:30
Of course, NoW, any one of those coaches on the list can be called into question, and every one of them has made mistakes, but the point is that when such a long list of prominent managers sing from the same hymn sheet regarding a player, you can pretty much take it as read that he must be quite a player.

Indeed, in the season just gone, Thierry Henry described BF as "world-class".
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 15:07:55
NB - you have bad Raging Ranger Syndrome.

wipe the froth from your mouth and dial 0111 888 1967. Professor Brendan O'Malley is your contact.

He could help!
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 15:09:09
i can only presume there is bum banditry involved.
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 15:10:19
i think he said turd ass. not world class
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Alliz,

04/07/2008 15:18:24
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celtic narrow their fan base by advertising themselves as celtic Irish and catholic if you are none of these, why would you support celtic?
If you are a non catholic and go to a catholic school the whole ethos in the school is catholic, Irish and celtic.
This is not the case in non denominational schools that are more open minded and accepting of all.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

04/07/2008 15:23:00
I think that when the annual accounts come out, we'll find out just how much "bigger" Celtic are when compared to Rangers.

The "global fan base" is of limited use, unless it yields tangible financial rewards. The interim figures released in January strongly suggested that the two clubs are of a similar size, certainly in terms of turnover.
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 15:26:05
410 - i think you'll find that your talking lillian gish.

When the figures do come out, i think you'll find Cetics overall turnover some 15-20m higher than the ReaRangers.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

04/07/2008 15:31:46
#411

And I think that you'll find that I'm right.

Turnover figures in January (from memory as I can't be bothered looking them up) were around £42 million for Celtic and £33 million for Rangers.

However, CFCs figure included all retail sales, while RFC don't include any, as the operation has been leased to JJB. SDM has gone on record as saying that Rangers retail sales have been running at about £20 million per year, so with retail included, RFCs January figure would have been around £43 million, very similar to Celtic's.

As I say, let's wait and see.
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Pat the Hat,

Cloud Nine 04/07/2008 15:34:16
384 JJ

My apologises – I had not read your post at 370 and was answering your previous post. As I said, I am bolstering my early retirement pension fund today and I can come to this thread only so often.

To answer your question: Caldwell came on a bundle in the latter part of the season but no, I don't think our centreback pairing is good enough for Europe. I expect it to prove good enough for the SPL, however, and, while I would love to see another experienced cemtral defender signed, I think WGS will make do with a leftback – if he can get one.

In my view, Caldwell would be a lot better if he didn't think he was so good, if you know what I mean; and Mick is a big, honest trier who may train on. What I would give for a young Mark Reiper or Paul Elliott!

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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 15:47:52
Those figures must be correct. Rangers are ranked higher than Arsenal. Anyone watching football last season will know this is thoroughly deserved.
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Survivor Of Riots,

04/07/2008 15:50:50
413 - you cannae sell off your retail outlet to service debts and then state "oh but if we he a retail outlet our turnover would be the same"

Doesn;t work that way.

Lets wait and see! 15m more for the celts!
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 15:51:33
and Barca. Every Rangers player could walk into that team!
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 15:53:50
keep believing,nervous bear. keep believing.
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 15:58:01
What matters more to you Nervous Bear? Coming 4th in some fantasy list or winning the league title?
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NemesisofWilliam,

04/07/2008 16:14:51
care to answer 424? come on care bear.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 16:32:46
We're bigger than you, no we're much bigger but we have won the big one, aye but weve won 50 odd titles.

Its all so childish.

Here is the most relevant question as we head towards CL qualifiers in July.

Who is the current champions of the SPL?

Hail Hail to the mighty Celtic.
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Bosco Bhoy,

04/07/2008 16:37:02
410 Bemused

Happy to see implicit in your comment is the acknowledgement our global fan base is a reality in comparison to RFC limited fanbase of Scotland and the wee North.

To what degree this helps CFC we can debate all day, its just good to see an honest bear accept that Celtic are a bigger club in that context.
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Teary Ennui,

04/07/2008 16:39:05
"you cannae sell off your retail outlet to service debts" (#419)

Especially not when the outlet was leased. Nothing was sold.
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Plonker,

04/07/2008 16:52:59
330 Royalty

I, personally can't see how my post proved your point, which I think was that Celtic are panicking. However, having read (yes read) some of your other posts, I can kind of understand the twisted logic that led you to your conclusion.

And it's going to p*ss down in Glasgow tomorrow and for the rest of July apparently. (Can't say p i s s on here)
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Swordsman,

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BTW ..IFFHS....FFS get a life ASAP...Drowning man clinging to a lifebelt comes to mind...Please be
upstanding FOR THE CHAMPIONS...I thank you!
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 17:57:50
437 mot juste

"one of whom is hated"

FYI, it was the KM ability that was being questioned by Rangers supporters, as for him being hated, they are the words of a tic supporter, I don't think I have seen any bluenoses using you're term on these threads in regards to KM.

If WS believes he can do a job for the Gers then the manager must be trusted by the support.

I am sure when WGS signed McCourt, Donnuti, Graveson, Killen, Riorden and left Balde to rot, the tic support gave him their backing.

That's all football supporters can do.
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Richardinho,

04/07/2008 19:20:40
If Rangers are 4th best team in the world, I take it that Celtic and Zenit St Petersburg are both somewhere in the top 3?
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Kirrie Tim,

04/07/2008 19:38:11
For those who seemed to have missed the communique.

The final period that the IFFHS rankings were recognised as valid was 03/04 when the standings were as follows:

(1st August 2003 - 30th July 2004)

1. (1.) Glasgow Celtic FC Scotland/3 281,5
2. (2.) São Paulo FC Brasil/4 276,0
3. (3.) Valencia CF España/4 266,0
4. (4.) Milan AC Italia/4 258,0
5. (5.) Real Madrid CF España/4 257,0
6. (6.) FC do Porto Portugal/3 254,5
7. (8.) Manchester United FC England/4 253,0
8. (9.) Chelsea FC London England/4 250,0
9. (10.) Arsenal FC London England/4 248,0
10. (12.) Santos FC Brasil/4 244,0

[..............]

60. (60.) Glasgow Rangers FC Scotland/3 138,0
61. (56.) SK Slavia Praha Ceská Republika/3 136,5
62. (63.) Real Club Deportivo Mallorca España/4 135,0
63. (52.) Liga Deportiva Universitario de Quito Ecuador/2 134,0

The highwater mark for Scottish clubs has already been reached.
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Kirrie Tim,

04/07/2008 19:41:44
But what's that I hear?

That's not the data for the present?

In that case, have some 3IAR right up ye!
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04/07/2008 19:53:33
#443
If Celtic and Zeta aren't in the top 3 it will prove how worthless this list is.
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Kirrie Tim,

04/07/2008 20:00:04
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You'll have meant Celtic and Zenit.

Better ne correctin ya than some tube scrabbling for a foothold...
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 20:03:00
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Then why worry about the list. It has as much credibility as the FIFA rankings.
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Richardinho,

04/07/2008 20:20:03
Do I look like I'm worrying?
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 20:25:03
bto

One signing so far the young NI. lad.

I am sure a few more to come.
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 20:27:42
451 OF/STP

Keep the list, I just want the Gers to finish higher than the tic in the SPL this coming season
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Richardinho,

04/07/2008 20:27:44
#451 Celtic finished 1st in the SPL, the only list that counts.
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Richardinho,

04/07/2008 20:29:19
'Have Celtic managed to make two signings yet.'

yes, Paddy McCourt, and Scott McDonald on a new five year contract.
I'm most happy about the latter, but most intrigued by the first.
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Kirrie Tim,

04/07/2008 20:32:01
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You said "celtic and rangers". [Celtic first]

Which of course is the correct order of pronounciation but rarely, if ever said that way by Rangers fans.

Welcome to the light side brother.

Hail! Hail!
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Richardinho,

04/07/2008 20:33:51
#457 If that's how many players rangers have signed then, yes.
Sorry, is this some kind of contest that I wasn't aware of?
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 20:34:13
McCourt reminds me of Nedved of Juventus,,,,,,,,,,,,,

IN LOOKS ONLY.
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Kirrie Tim,

04/07/2008 20:38:34
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Is that the first thing you see in a player Brian?
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 20:44:54
Tim

It was just an observation, the paying public will have to see the lad perform on the pitch for a few matches before any judgement on his ability is done.

Must say he looked okay on the youtube clips against poor opposition, decent control at close quarters, good with both feet, decent vision, and a bit of pace.

But again on youtube.
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Kirrie Tim,

04/07/2008 20:50:03
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I know, I was just bantering you.

I quite like cheap unknown quantities, the disappointment factor is less if it doesnt turn out unlike say a Graveson for example.
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 20:55:13
465 STP

There was a player in the mid 60's called Tony Book who was signed to his first major football deal by Manchester City at 32 year old, I think he went on to play for Man City until around 1975. He ended up being a very steady fullback for City, and a good pro.
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Kirrie Tim,

04/07/2008 20:57:01
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Scotsman's Top Pundit?

I was going to ask, are you up on Sanskrit, philosophy etc or does your punditry only extend to BFDJ, 'done deal' type havers?
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 20:59:11
466 Tim

The lad coming from NI. at least should have a heart, not something you can say about Graveson later in his career.
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04/07/2008 21:03:35
helloooooo....lol
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04/07/2008 21:16:57
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And who is being the little plank?
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04/07/2008 21:17:56
bto

I suppose the children will play.
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 21:20:39
try it then STP to we see if he is at it
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Richardinho,

04/07/2008 21:25:57
'i read an interesting article in the paper from maurice malpas, he said mccourt is not old firm standard and would struggle to get a start in any of the top 6 teams of last season'

And just who is Maurice Malpas that I should respect his opinion? I only remember him being a really shoite Motherwell manager.
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 21:29:21
How can he have your name?
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 21:30:00
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I remember him as being a very good left back for a very good United side, I remember him playing many times for Scotland at left back and appearing in the WC.

What was you're playing pedigree?

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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 21:33:37
again.how can he have your name?
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Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 21:37:07
hmm so you are as bad as him. Just to see if I could do it? Sure.
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 21:39:39
488 STP

I believe you are being led up the garden path. lol
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Scotsman's Top Pundit,

04/07/2008 21:41:48
Well, I made 2 posts but that's all
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Scotsman's Top Pundit,

04/07/2008 21:42:15
Or was it 3? 2 or 3 at most
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Scotsman's Top Pundit,

04/07/2008 21:42:41
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04/07/2008 21:44:30
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Agree regarding Malpas.
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04/07/2008 21:48:56
Tim is it not time to get back to the football banter, I am sure there must be something negative that you can say about the Gers. Or are you just waiting for Ballywho to turn up.
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04/07/2008 23:13:14
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Slaine, Bosco, Swordsman, TDD are individual posters none of them were pulling the STP rubbish earlier. They would not lower themselves to wee boy games on a football thread.
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Daillyman,

04/07/2008 23:15:27
bto

Have a good weekend. Weather here blue sky's all weekend temp around 28c

Might catch you later tonight.
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04/07/2008 23:20:28
#485 I take it you ask horses for racing tips?
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04/07/2008 23:32:05
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Are you Filip Sebo?
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Kirrie Tim,

05/07/2008 00:04:36
Ermmmm, there's some pretty baseless accusations going on here.

Any proof, evidence?

Naw, just shout out anything.

ps nice work Mr unseen feniaI\I hand!
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STopPit!

"thats how im not fooled by this guy who i believe is kirrie tim"

Well your statement proves you have been fooled AGAIN.

Get used to it half wit.


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Daillyman,

05/07/2008 00:17:48
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We were talking about M. Malpas, if you want to talk about horses then that's fine.

"and who is M.Malpas that I should respect his opinion"

Many times capped Scotland international left back, played for his country in the WC, played for a good United side. Is that not worth a wee bit of respect.

I would say his opinion regarding football might be slightly more accepted than yours..

Now if you are talking horses a=se you would win by a furlong.
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Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

05/07/2008 00:43:39
What is Sir Minty's primary objective at the moment?

Is it getting his £50m + £30m original investment back or is it the best interests of the club, i.e. winning the title.

You have to look at the sale of Hutton. The only replacement SS had was Broadfeet, and big broaders is a journeyman and that's putting it very politely.

Hutton did not want to go and initially refused to have any discussions about it.

There is then some back-room shenanigans, after which Hutton is pushed out the door.

Was the decision to sell Hutton mid-season , when the title was tight, when the replacement player was immeasurably poorer , in SS's best interests or was Sir Minty working to another agenda?

I think the answer is clear and that Sir Minty now has a conflict of interest : the interest in getting his money back and the interests of SS.
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Daillyman,

05/07/2008 00:58:26
Patrick

Thanks for you're concern.
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Daillyman,

05/07/2008 01:02:03
SMM CR

The title was in sight until the last day of the season the tic won by 3 points remember.

Its funny the Gers played with one established full back for half a season (Hutton) yet it is hardly mentioned. Oh well the best team always wins the league.
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Daillyman,

05/07/2008 03:41:33
I just noticed that BallyPax posts were removed from this thread.

Sad isn't it.

They should be left on,,freedom of speech and all that.
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_Ballywhoriskey_,

05/07/2008 08:50:57
Dailly 526: I didnt post at all yesterday - so none of my posts could be removed!
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Daillyman,

05/07/2008 13:00:31
Well I think you have a cyber clone.
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_Ballywhoriskey_,

05/07/2008 18:15:29
528: I'm sure I have many.

 

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