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Uganda coach is latest name to join Romanov's Hearts list



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Published Date: 04 July 2008
THE former Ferencvaros manager, Csaba Laszlo, has emerged as one of the remaining three candidates to take over the vacant position at Hearts.
Laszlo, currently in charge of the Ugandan national team, is understood to have held talks with Vladimir Romanov, the Hearts owner, within the last week. Jurgen Rober, the former Borussia Dortmund coach, did likewise although his chances of being app
ointed appear slim after apparently high wage demands and conflict over where new players should be sourced from.

Dutchman Anton Joore also remains in the frame for the Tynecastle job.

Laszlo should be somewhat easier to deal with. Aged 44, he played for various club teams in Romania – the country of his birth – and Hungary before retiring, aged 27, because of a knee injury. A youth coaching role at Borussia Monchengladbach beckoned, with Laszlo embarking on season 2004/5 in charge of Ferencvaros, a job he combined with assisting Lothar Matthaus' Hungarian national team.

The manager will be most remembered in Scotland from that spell for a post-match altercation with John Robertson, then Hearts manager, after Ferencvaros travelled to Murrayfield for a European tie. A 1-0 victory for the Hungarian outfit – as both they and Hearts tumbled out of the Uefa Cup after the first group phase – was followed by accusations from Laszlo that Robertson had kicked him. The Ferencvaros manager had earlier been banished to the stand for complaining about the hosts' unsportsmanlike behaviour.

"He (Robertson] must learn to lose as well as win," said Laszlo at the time of the Hearts legend, who retorted: "He called my team cheats, then stood on my foot. I never kicked him; I just pulled my foot away. If I had kicked him he wouldn't have been standing."

Laszlo spent a subsequent and brief spell in charge of another Hungarian team, FC Sopron, but has achieved cult status for his efforts in Uganda.

Dubbed a "Miracle Man" by sections of the African country's media, Laszlo is credited with raising the profile of Ugandan football to the scale of being attractive to sponsors and television stations for the first time.

Only goal difference ensured Uganda missed out on a place in this year's African Cup of Nations, while the team has risen to 97th in Fifa's world rankings from 167th when the manager took over. They are currently involved in a qualification campaign for the 2010 World Cup, last drawing 0-0 with Angola on 23 June.

Laszlo lacks experience of British football but speaks fluent English, alongside German.

After being rebuffed in attempts to lure Mark McGhee and Vladimir Weiss to Tynecastle, it remains to be seen whether or not Romanov can or wishes to secure Laszlo with Stephen Frail on gardening leave and the Bulgarian Angel Chervenkov in temporary charge of first-team training.



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  • Last Updated: 03 July 2008 10:35 PM
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1

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

04/07/2008 00:06:23
"Dubbed a "Miracle Man"... " That's good enough for me - get him in.
2

Der Kaiser,

04/07/2008 00:12:44
We do need a "miracle man". And he'd fit in well with that Wizard we had with his golden rods declaring who was fit to play.
But then again, weren't we promised a British manager?
3

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04/07/2008 00:15:51
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4

bring them on,

04/07/2008 00:28:33
Not many more countries left to trawl...
5

1874ever,

reality 04/07/2008 00:32:45
tomorrows headline:
Uganda coach declines Hearts job because Romanov is a freaking megalomaniac nutcase.
6

jambtastic,

04/07/2008 00:40:27
We need more than a miracle , who cares anymore next week it will be somebody else
7

r1niceboy,

yankeeland 04/07/2008 00:44:28
Sounds like a winner to me.

/bangs head on desk
8

respectcostsnowt,

decency 04/07/2008 02:14:16

the last king of tynie !!!!!
9

Jon Bon Jovi,

zaire 04/07/2008 02:41:12

so glad the hearts 'search for a manager' panto is back again this summer....

its almost like a reality show but at the end there is no winner!

sure does make these barren football weeks go quicker!!
10

1874ever,

04/07/2008 02:53:07
and useless owner of the year goes to vlad for his complete and utter betrayal of the team
11

Obecalp,

04/07/2008 03:06:41
Dubbed the Miracle worker. Sounds like Mr Romanov is getting his act together. Where's all the Hobo's now? Won't hear a peep now that we're back in place as the big team.
12

respectcostsnowt,

04/07/2008 03:31:20
pythonesque does not begin to describe it, AMIN c'mon
13

Colin P,

04/07/2008 03:58:05
Okay, okay, I'm willing to come out of retirement, but I definitely won't take suggestions as to who I play.
Vlad would also need to bring my levels up to date.
I'd like to put my name in the pool.

He needs to understand the difference between chairman and manager or coach.

Nowhere in the description of chairman does it mention naming players in the squad for the next match.
14

windywillunga,

Adelaide 04/07/2008 04:20:16
How about south america next,then after exhausting all possibitlites, give vlad the job full time.
Then at last a bit of stability.
15

ozdon,

04/07/2008 04:23:56
Dear oh Dear oh Dear, where are Hearts going to look next, imagine the uproar that will be caused if Hearts do not have a manager in place by the start of the new season, and i'm not suggesting unrest by the fans or anything, i'm suggesting the uproar throughout the country, because everybody will be having such a giggle at Hearts no work will be done anywhere and the doctors will be booked out caring for all the people with sore sides from laughter!!!!!
16

Daillyman,

04/07/2008 04:39:24
An uproar/ giggle if HMFC don't have a manager by the start of the season!!! The laughter has been heard all over Scotland since Burley left.

Great job Herr Romanov.

# 8 post

A cracker. lol
17

ozdon,

04/07/2008 05:33:07
Daillyman,

Your right, Hearts have become a total and complete basket case, sad thing is they are dragging Scottish Football down with them,
18

GOA-JAMBO,

Back Hame 04/07/2008 06:46:24
#18
Scottish Football has been dragged down by the old firm my friend, given that Heart of Midlothian were the last team out side the old firm to win a trophy your statement is as hollow as your head.
We will wait as we have been now for a long time and see if Vlad thinks this man is right for the job. Hopefully he is !!!

C'mon the Gorgie !!!
19

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 04/07/2008 07:25:28
Once upon a time Hearts fans were stunned when the club appointed Willie Ormond to manage the team.
Now there's no limit to the madness.
HELP!
20

BRUHibs,

04/07/2008 07:29:55
Phil is leaving Eastenders again - possible?
21

Vincent Vega,

04/07/2008 07:32:49
#19

Erm, that was Hibs, even though it was a diddy cup.
22

BRUHibs,

04/07/2008 07:40:29
Doesn't the (supposed) diddy cup not follow the same format as the Scottish cup?
23

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 04/07/2008 07:45:43
I posted earlier (#20) but had to go for a lie down, on the sofa.
All I want to say is...HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEE!
24

doris karloff,

04/07/2008 07:55:29
Is he the favourite from this weeks round of candidates, last weeks or the week before that, I'm losing count!!!
25

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04/07/2008 07:58:24
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26

Dood,

04/07/2008 08:03:39
What happens when these three turn down the job?

What's Harri Kampman doing these days?
27

Stotty,

04/07/2008 08:04:27
Calm please Jambos!

Hearts WILL NOT be relegated, or even close under Romanov.

Yes, the appointment of a manager has been a farce. But do not get hysterical here. Asset stripper? What, asset strip a company that was 20m in debt and making a loss when he took over? Do me a favour! Offering 400k to McGhee to take the job - the move of an asset stripper?

Do not let the press brainwash you. We will have a new manager in place before the season starts. Let's get behind the Jambo's and ignore everyone else.

Do not forget where we were pre-Vlad. Be careful what you wish for!

C'mon you Hearts!
28

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 04/07/2008 08:09:01
#26. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz

Pathetic!
29

the west end general,

the Arms 04/07/2008 08:09:18
#26 priceless ! best made up story of the week ... you should write for the Evening News
30

Bigwull,

edinburgh 04/07/2008 08:09:50
26 Here come the lawyers, run away
31

Lion-O "Lord Of The ThunderCats,

04/07/2008 08:12:56
"One of the remaining 3 candidates" - here was me thinking that the shortlist published in this paper was factual as well.

Seems the truth is that no Scottish journo has a clue who is on the shortlist, how many names it contains or even if a shortlist exists.
32

Glorious Hearts,

04/07/2008 08:15:32
#28 well said- everyone, please stop buying into the press hype!

They're not out to inform us or help us, they're there to make as big a deal as possible about everything and sell papers.

We are the Hearts
33

Stotty,

04/07/2008 08:19:22
#33 - The press have had it in for VR since day one, even more so now he doesn't tell them anything.

Asset stripper who has refused to do business with Wolves for Berra and Burnley for Driver. I don't think so!

Let's get a new manager in and we can start to look forward to the new season!
34

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 08:20:03
The bit that concerns me is the statement about Juergen Roeber's chances being slim because of "conflict over where new players should be sourced from" this does not sound like Romanov is taking a hands off approach and letting the Manager Manage does it??
35

Stotty,

04/07/2008 08:23:01
#35 - I'm under no illusions, Romanov will interfere, I have no doubt about that. That doesn't necessarily mean Hearts re "on the road to ruin" though.
36

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 08:24:38
#19 I would be very careful about your statements like Hearts were the last team outside the OF to win a trophy, did Hibs not win one since then.

I know it was "ONLY" the League cup under John Collins but, only to stop you looking foolish because the hobo's will jump on that.
37

Voice of the mysterons,

Mars 04/07/2008 08:24:41
This is actually really boring now. In his attempts to look as though he's pulled a rabbit out of a hat, the candidates - who may all be decent managers - get less famous by the minute. what are the odds on Hearts appointing a manager who hasn't yet had an entry on wikipedia?
Anyway the plan is no longe Ziggy, I will reveal 10 mins beofre the start of the season last year's assistant coach Shaggy Frail will be revealed as the manager and all the Jambo's will heave a sigh of collective releif. Season ticket sales will be boosted and all will be well in the world - except SF will play Elliott all season and give the jambos something else to moan about.
38

Dublin 7 Hibby,

Myles away from Dublin 04/07/2008 08:27:09
My sympathies go out to you my Western friends, but in reading these posts you don't seem to realise the amazement that the rest of humanity feels about Hearts plight. The one thing you have going is that with debts now well above assets - is it £39m debts with the asset value of Tynie falling daily - then Vlad the Mad cannot liquidate the club without suffering a big loss. Granted, that's not much of a blessing!
39

viator,

holding david weir's zimmer 04/07/2008 08:32:43
Matthaus and Csaba dream team, with Robbo putting the cones out......Tom Ritchie in charge of sartorial matters and Old Boozy Foulkes selling 1874 lottery tickets.My season ticket consigned to history whilst i contemplate a season ticket at Bayview.
40

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 08:33:57
#36 I know what you mean but did he not make a bold statement that a. he would recruit a manager with extensive "British" experience and b. That the man chosen would have "total autonomy" in player and team selection and as I understand this statement was made back in January.

In addition "the road to ruin", well on that, only time will tell but I think if the accounts later this month show the debt reducing as I expect from statements coming out of HMFC, then I will believe that he is doing a business "Job" and reducing the debt, stabilising the finances, then focus on the "onfield" matters.
41

Stotty,

04/07/2008 08:38:53
#41 - Agree with you to be honest. I am miffed about the whole manager situation. That said, things would have been so different if McGhee had accepted. We'd all be creaming ourselves about the new season ahead.

As I said already though, let's not get hysterical. We're still in the SPL, we're still at Tynecastle, and I very much doubt we'd be able to say that if Vlad hadn't came in.
42

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 08:39:04
#39 Why is the asset value of tynie dropping daily, VR Has put the young players on long term contracts which actually increases their value to the club as has been shown in the recent interest in Berra and Driver, the stadium itself has a good value and we have merchandise, so I would think the assests right now are more than the debt.

I know he plans to build a new stand and I think this will be financed thro' sponsorship and corporate sales as is done elsewhere in Europe.

I really do think that VR (team interference and communications apart) is trying to do the right things, but has really underestimated the task.
43

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 08:42:07
#42 stotty - yes I agree with you on most of what you say, however I am not so sure still being at Tynie is the be all and end all, Heart of Midlothian fotball club is the important thing and if we had sold Tynie and moved, as many clubs do, then we may well be in better shape than we are now.

I would guess that any potential buyer of the club would consider selling the club and look for a sponsor for a stadium elsewhere in the city or outside the city all in the best interests of the future of Hearts.
44

Stotty,

04/07/2008 08:47:15
#44 Johnny Jambo - Tynie moved, perhaps. But that wasn't the option mate. The option was selling Tynie and renting Murrayfield, still in debt, thousands less ST holders and no funds to build a new stadium.
45

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 08:50:35
#45 stotty - yes I agree with the past scenario, I was talking about the future and any future purchaser of the club and perhaps get sponsorhip for a "New Tynecastle" called for example "The ASDA Arena" or whoever would do the sponsorship as they do in Europe.
46

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 04/07/2008 08:54:07
#42. You are 'miffed' about the manager situation? That's the way, show the aggresion and passion of the 9,000 that bought season tickets.

47

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 09:01:07
#47 GrahamH - why have a pop at stotty, make a suggestion on a direction we can take as fans. I tried almost 18 months ago to do something and was working with a number of "fans" to find a buyer or buyers for the club to take it away from VR but because of who he was I found a lot of "fear" in the people we spoke to and in the end we just could not raise the necessary funding.
I would welcome suggestions although I am kind of coming round to the fact, as I have stated a number of times that maybe he is trying to do the right thing now and stabilise the financial side of the cluib before concentrating on the playing side, but has grossly underestimated the task. I would still like to see him out though, unless he communicates his plans to the shareholders and the fans.
48

paulmac,

surrey 04/07/2008 09:02:27
Any truth that Robert Mugabe has put his name forward?
49

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 09:04:29
#48 - the club has more assets than just the ground, thats all I was saying. We cannot just cherrypick in business.
We have debt and we have assets as long as assets are more than debt we are "OK" I am of course only guessing at this time, things should become more clear when we see the accounts later this month.
50

Edinburgh's Big Team,

EH11 04/07/2008 09:07:58
#43 What the ill-informed Hobbo is referring to is falling property prices but has not obviously heard that Edinburgh property prices are still bucking UK trends and holding their own. He also believes Hearts debt is at £39m which it never was. It was at £36 before the transfer fees were accounted for and Hearts announced it was below £30m. So reading between the lines we have a debt in the late twenty millions and a ground still worth circa £23-£25m. I think he believes the playing squad and all other assets dont amount to £3-5m........but thats Hobonomics, its not meant to make sense!

On the managerial front, lets not get carried away by the press who obviously have no clue about the situation. That said we are being cheated by Romanov if the appointment is not made within a week and we were still promised someone with British experience. We cant necessarily believe the supposed candidates but if the final appointment is does have British experience then we will have been failed.
51

Gorgie's Finest,

04/07/2008 09:15:32
Mornin guys, According to talk107 he has been offered the Job and has accepted in principle.

"talk107 can reveal that former Ferencvaros coach Laszlo Csaba has been interviewed for the managerial vacancy at Hearts.

The 44 year-old is currently in charge of the Ugandan national team.

He's no stranger to the Jambos, having been involved in a confrontation with John Robertson at the end of a UEFA Cup tie at Murrayfield in 2004.

I understand he's been verbally offered the job, and accepted in principle, however it's suggested Csaba wants a clause in his contract giving him the right to three year's financial compensation if he loses his job.

Hearts, it's claimed, have only offered him one year's money.

Csaba this afternoon refused to deny that he's held talks with Vladimir Romanov, but he did tell talk 107 the Hearts owner is well known to him..."

I also heard Rober was looking for 1million Euros a year (780,000) as a wage. What a very Ironic name for the guy.
52

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

04/07/2008 09:16:15
Last season we had one of our poorest coaching staffs, but we only finished 4 points below the so called flair team. We have had other bad spells under weak management, Jordan , McLean, Seith and Moncur. If we get a good appointment we'll easily get above the Hobos.
#47 season ticket sales are now 11,500 and rising
53

petegeneva,

geneva 04/07/2008 09:16:33
#52 can players really be classed as assets? Reason I ask is that their value is actually zero since at contract end they can walk away. Surely any other valuation would be completely subjective and speculative? I'm prepared to be wrong (no expert, me), I can see buildings being considered assets whereas players might not be.
54

Who?,

04/07/2008 09:17:05
#45 & 46 - staying at tynecastle only mattered to the small minority with a vested interest.

The whole staying at tynecastle thing was really a catalyst to remove the pie man, a guy who year on year was racking up record losses and paying himself somewhere around £150k for doing so.

If someone other than vlad had bought the club, sold tynecastle and rented murryfield for say 5 years while the land was sought for a new ground and the stadium was built it would have been no big deal. Hearts would have a 30 year mortgage on a brand new, modern stadium that would last 100 years.

I also think that it is daft to claim that moving to murryfield would decemate the ST holder numbers and kill the club. If hearts had been at murryfield 2006/7 they would probably have got 35- 40000 per week which would have offset the running costs of the team.
55

Who?,

04/07/2008 09:18:54
#54- where did you get the number of ST's as 11500 from?
56

petegeneva,

geneva 04/07/2008 09:23:44
#56. put. the. drugs. away.
35 to 40,000. And they say we hobos have no grasp on reality?

57

Voice of the mysterons,

Mars 04/07/2008 09:24:33
#52 Hobonomics or Jambonomics. house prices are holding their own as are land prices, the companies that buy them - builders- can't raise any capital which will force the price down. Why pay well above the odds when its a buyers market?

Interesting on your view of the debt, I'd wait until I saw the accounts before claiming it was roughly equivemlant with the value of the stadium. In the last 6 months you have been told, the money from transfers is going to reduce the debt(next years accounts), you have been told that there is a search for a coach with experience in British Football who will be given autonomy over team selection. you have been told Stevie Frail has a future with the club. You have been told the new stand is going in - all is well at Hearts, nothing to see here move along.
58

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 09:26:38
#55 - yes of course players can be classed as assets, I know they can leave for free at end of contract, however VR has been very quick to get players on long trerm contracts which means that we can make money on them if they go before the contract expires and so far he has been doing just that getting money for them andin many cases good money.
59

Voice of the mysterons,

Mars 04/07/2008 09:27:37
#54 Ronaldo, was it not last close season you were predicting daily Hibs would be relegated because of the fire sale we had on our already poor squad. Finishing 4 points behind the flair team must really have stung then.

BTW missing the coments regarding the clapped out dairy and furniture store. They did cheer me up.
60

Stotty,

04/07/2008 09:29:51
#56 - 35-40k a week? Hahaha. Come on, get real.
61

petegeneva,

geneva 04/07/2008 09:31:33
#60 thanks for that. So what asset value would HoMFC show on the books for say Berra, Stewart, Kingson?
62

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 09:32:11
#56 - Yes I agree with you, thats what I have been saying, Tynecastle is not the critical thing in all this its the survival of HMFC.

In addition as I have been saying, I think the trend in Europe is that Clubs build new stadia which are financed through sponsorship so there may not be a mojor cost to the club itslef and in addition they get Corporate Hositality funding which will all add to the coffers and I see no reason why anyone owning Hearts could not do this and have a very low morgage for the lifetime of the stadium.

63

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 09:35:22
Guys finishing 4 points behind Hibs is not important, how many points were we off the top of the league, that is the important statistic, we must have better ambitions than being better than Hibs surely.

I am not sure Hobo's would be happy if their clubs ambition was just to be ahead of Hearts.
64

ValdasTheMan,

Edinburgh 04/07/2008 09:36:05
Every week the Scotsman reports that there are 3 candidates?


65

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 09:39:10
#63, I think for Berra we can see that we have turned down offers in the region of 1.5-2M so therefore somewhere in excess of that must be what the club value him at, the others I have no idea but we also turned down an offer in the region of £750K for for Driver so again his Valuation must be in the region of £1M.

Tell me how other clubs do their valuation of assets, I note that a couple of years ago Rangers put a valuation of £100M on their Stadium and I am sure that in reality it would not fetch that or anywhere near it in the market place.
66

petegeneva,

geneva 04/07/2008 09:40:31
#64 actually in many countries the stadium is owned by the council or municipality and the club just pays a rent. However if that model was going to work in Edinburgh then clearly the stadium would have to be available to both clubs. I'm not going to open that can of worms again though.
It makes huge financial sense, why own something that earns you revenue on about 30 days of the year?
67

petegeneva,

geneva 04/07/2008 09:42:27
#67 we're not discussing valuation of property, there must be accountancy riles for that. Let's stick to the player as asset dialogue. 10M for the whole squad maybe?
68

fog 1875,

glasgow 04/07/2008 09:46:41
Surely the winner of eurovision should be in with a chance of getting a phone call from mad vlad?
69

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 09:51:29
#68 - I think you will find that the majority of clubs in Europe have stadia which is owned by the club and as I said financed thro sponsorship and in addition it makes money more than 30days a year, they have hotels attached, they have conference suites both useable on a daily basis for the full year. In addition they have corporate facilities which businesses can use for functions at any time.
70

Roscoe P Coltrane,

04/07/2008 09:59:28
Hmm. Mr Murray's report bears ABSOLUTELY no resemblance to the Wikipedia entry. None whatsoever, no. He's a proper journalist, honest.
71

Rolland,

04/07/2008 10:00:38
Do we pay him in Ugandan Dollars ?

72

Ironing Maiden,

04/07/2008 10:05:03
Although Im highly sceptical of this guy taking the job in the first place, an international manager would be the best suited for the farcical organisation of the club. The fact he is used to working with players he obviously can not sign and develop them to a decent standard means he can work with the players Romanov sends through from Kaunas.

73

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

04/07/2008 10:05:30

72. Wikipedia is hardly gospel.
74

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 10:09:14
#69 - I would have thought more than that but even if that was the case, and as I said before we cannot just cherrypick what we want to discuss in the valuation of the club. Players must be considered in that valuation. So with the stadium worth 25-30M and the players worth 10M and merchandise on top of that we are in positive numbers I would have thought.
75

I.J,

The Diggers 04/07/2008 10:11:35
#72 - Roscoe, I know Ewan and he is one of the biggest Jambos you could ever meet. He's not one of the Bandersons or Bonthrones of this world........cut the dude some slack. ;0)
76

Roscoe P Coltrane,

04/07/2008 10:12:41
Some of the quotes from Talk 107 are pretty much lifted word-for-word from here yesterday!

I should get a job in journalism, it sounds like you just sit on your backside reading Hearts threads on the Scotsman all day. Which I'm already pretty experienced at!

If this is genuine (and Wikipedia is correct etc etc and so forth) he sounds like a decent punt, better than some of the others we've looked at anyway (which wouldn't be that hard). Gotta be better than Angel anyway.....
77

Who?,

04/07/2008 10:13:27
58 & 62- For season 2006/7 i think hearts could have quite easily have got an average of 35- 40000 per week.

Put it this way- Every hearts home game was sold out as soon as the tickets went onsale, if you didn't have a ST or know sombody who had tickets were pretty impossible to come by. Yes the gates would have been far higher for the derbies and games against the OF than games against livingston etc but that's why i was meaning a season average.

Hearts took 25000 to the scottish cup semi final when the pink brazil only took 12500, hearts took over 35000 to the cup final. If both games had been played at murryfiled hearts would have taken thousands more fans.
78

Roscoe P Coltrane,

04/07/2008 10:14:10
#75. That was kind of my point. It's called sarcasm.
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Stotty,

04/07/2008 10:16:33
#79 - You are missing the point. The reason we had such crowds in 2006/7 was Burley, investment in the team etc....none of which would have occured under the Pieman.
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

04/07/2008 10:17:03
81 - I guess the ten minutes you spent as a normal person yesterday must have really hurt or something, as back comes the old, dribbling, bitter, delusional, insulting, condescending ar$ehole - Riley MkI

Nice while it lasted I suppose.
83

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 10:17:14
#79 who - I doubt whether we could sell 30-40000 tickets for a Hearts game, maybe for Europe as we did at MF before or for Celtic Rangers and to a lesser extent Hibs, but to reach that number regularly is pie in the sky.
There is a difference between selling out 17000 tickets and more than double that, if we got full sales for games other than those I have mentioned we would be doing well, and even to do that we would need to be challenging the top two places in the league.
84

G,

dundy 04/07/2008 10:18:52
Lets face it, only a loser or a waster would take on this job....
Being the puppet and fall guy for Romanov's attempts to manage...!!
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Radge Roberto,

barnton 04/07/2008 10:20:10
maybe the jams could get in Idi Amin as Director of Football !
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Rolland,

04/07/2008 10:21:29
Aye G - only losers or wasters earn that sort of cash.

Ugandan Dollar man looks like a good bet.
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Radge Roberto,

barnton 04/07/2008 10:24:48
maybe they could also get Robert Mugabe and Zanu in charge of season ticket sales - he'd easily get you back to 40,000 average gates !
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Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

04/07/2008 10:25:41
#61 my preditions went a little bit wrong simply because I failed to take account of how bad we and the rest of the SPL were. Still think Hibs will struggle espacially as they have resorted to a mixture of kicking anything that moves and hoofball. On the positive side it was good to see Fletcher turning down Real Madrid to stay at ER!
Re hibs training ground -Its amazing how many Hibbies come on here bragging about a training facility that clearly few (if any) of them have seen. If you really want to see what it looks like without going there, just watch Boys of the Black stuff. There are plenty of Yosser Hughes types in Tranent and Ormiston.
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Rolland,

04/07/2008 10:27:23
90 - Hibs training ground is a converted cow shed, apt really plenty of dung on show.
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Nod,

04/07/2008 10:28:47
#69 ronaldo on man u's books is only listed as worth 2m. clubs tend not to put to much of a value on players since bosman, and due to fact they could leave for nowt and be injured and out of game for months its not really an asset. the only asset you'se have is property.
so to say 10mil for your squad! dream on
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Who?,

04/07/2008 10:30:26
#82- i never suggested that we would have got an average of 35- 40000 under the pie man. He alienated far too many fans, former players, sponsors etc for that to happen. I do agree that 2006/7 attendances and interest was down to Burley and the major investment in the playing squad.

Thats is why #85 is correct to say at the moment we would have no chance of getting 35- 40000 at the moment.

However if the level of investment from 2006/7 had been maintained and a guy of the caliber of burley was there to manage that investment which means hearts would be challenging at the top of the league crowds would increase. More bums on seats mean that the playing budget will be competitive allowing the team to be successful which means more bums on seats.
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SouthSideHibs,

04/07/2008 10:33:52
#63 petegeneva - I'm not sure that clubs now show players as an asset on their balance sheet. Their value can be wiped out by injury at any time - unless they're adequately and therefore very expensively insured.
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hibbyspurs,

04/07/2008 10:37:26
#82

Your comment about burley & investment is true...

Where has this "investment" got you to today though?
Bottom 6 & the most farcial managerial situation that has ever been seen in professional football on the entire planet?

Where do you go from here? I have no illusions that you will again struggle next season as your already behind the other clubs in the SPL as your pre season can't help but be fragmented with no man in "overall" control.

This is why I really dont geat Vlad decision to put Frail on deckchair leave as at least with him there during the pre-season there would have been someone that the squad and staff would have known and accepted was in charge of training and given some structure to Hearts build up to the new season. As it is as every day passes Hearts ability to challenge at the top end of the table next season will diminish as the other clubs at the top end of the SPL will be in proper training regimes and possible closing in on new player targets as singled out by their managers.....

Dont think youse'll get relegated or anything like that sadly but I do think 8th place beckons again unless youse sort yourselves out within days (not weeks or heaven forbid 7 months)......
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Lenny,

04/07/2008 10:38:48
Rolland,

You were made to look rather foolish in the past when you tried to put down Hibs training ground (which you clearly have never seen). Do you really want to go into this again?
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hibbyspurs,

04/07/2008 10:42:09
91 -

as Lenny says at #96.... Wheeshet silly boy at least our training ground is OUR taining ground and not on a 25 year lease from Heriot Watt....
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busbyfh,

04/07/2008 10:43:42
# 79

Hearts had just a shade over 40,000 at that final (applications for over 53,000)
27,000 at the semi that was live on tv
58,000 at the Barca friendly
33,000 at the AEK Athens game that was live on BBC
The potential is there - That's why Vlad is nuts not to utelise it.
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Pazuzu,

04/07/2008 10:45:44
Get Robbo back in, although he was the slayer of my Hibs it will stop all the bleating about the manager.


Rolland:
Kn0b.

GGTTH
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I.J,

The Diggers 04/07/2008 11:00:34
Right, enough of evading the REAL issue. I'm sick of this pussyfooting around.

Who was the REAL talent - bernie winters or Schnorbitz?
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The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

04/07/2008 11:07:35
Who was the guy who used to ride about on an Ostrich on Crackerjack ? Don someone.

Him. Get him.
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

04/07/2008 11:08:11
Sorry Riley, unfortunately I may actually have to do some work today so can't engage in as much witty badinage.

I know you'll be sorely disappointed, but do try to cope somehow!
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petegeneva,

geneva 04/07/2008 11:08:57
#94 my point exactly. It would be unwise to give a player a "book" value since the following day he could break a leg and never play again. I was trying to lead my esteemed colleague to see the logic of that.
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The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

04/07/2008 11:18:18
This Guy.. Bernie Clifton

http://www.notbbc.co.uk/images/giggle_library/dir_0/notbbc_39_19.jpg
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Rolland,

04/07/2008 11:28:54
Lenny et all, I was just stating facts, Hibs converted an old cow shed as part of the training gound, should make for lush green grass all that dung. You guys reply with at least we own our training ground...hmmmm away and polish your training ground then along with your balance sheet.

It is after all only a training ground and not acedmey which is what the big teams have.

Nothing wrong with our lease either, why build when we have a ready made one at our disposal ? I seem to recall our week of semi final preperations whilst you guys went from pillar to post having a major impact on or readiness for humping you boys 4 nil in a certain semi final. Although you may have not seen it.
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Rolland,

04/07/2008 11:35:46
Come on now Dub we will be here, we are to big to cease to be as in a Gretna sort of way and you lot know it. I think that is what upsets you the most to be honest.

Hearts will always be around in some form or another, maybe at Tynie maybe not but we will be sticking around.