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Published Date: 15 January 2008
ATTACKS on gay and disabled people are to become "aggravated" crimes likely to attract tougher punishments under a move to be announced today.
Kenny MacAskill, the justice secretary, is expected to reveal that the Scottish Government will support a private member's bill that aims to put offences against people based on their disability or sexual orientation on the same legal footing as race
and religious hate-crimes.

Patrick Harvie, a Green MSP, launched his Sentencing of Offences Aggravated by Prejudice (Scotland) Bill in November. It is based on recommendations made five years ago by a working party that included police and prosecutors, but which were rejected by the previous Labour-led administration.

More than 40 MSPs, including ten from Labour, have signed up to the proposals – which were contained in both the SNP and Lib Dem manifestos.

Under the move, if police and prosecutors determine that a crime was motivated by ill-will towards the victim based on disability or sexual orientation, it will be marked as an aggravated offence and presented to the courts as such.

The bill also proposes "to require the aggravation of an offence by prejudice on grounds of disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity to be taken into account in sentencing".

Police figures show some forces are recording more homophobic than hate-crime offences. In 2006, Lothian and Borders Police recorded 75 homophobic incidents compared with 36 faith-based incidents.

The same year, The Scotsman revealed that attacks on gays and lesbians had increased by as much as 100 per cent in the preceding year.

Meanwhile, a new report has found a "worrying picture" of hate crime against disabled people. The Highland Wellbeing Alliance found a quarter of respondents said they had experienced bullying because of their disability.

It also found only half of those who have been attacked had reported the incident to Northern Constabulary – mirroring the findings of a recent survey of victims of homophobic hate-crime.

Calum Irving, director of the gay-rights group Stonewall Scotland, said: "If the Scottish Government do announce support for Patrick Harvie's bill then a great many lesbian and gay Scots will breathe a sigh of relief.

"This overdue legislation has great potential to finally get the message out that Scotland will not tolerate homophobic attacks any more."

Mike Holmes, director of campaigns at the charity Enable Scotland, said: "We have fought for years to see crime against disabled people recognised for what it is: hate crime. Over a third of people with learning disabilities suffer ongoing verbal and physical abuse.

"Invoking the category of hate crime does more than impose heavier sentences – it sends out a message to the wider public that attacking this particularly vulnerable group is unacceptable."



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  • Last Updated: 14 January 2008 10:04 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Gay and Lesbian issues
 
1

Exocet,

In Nazi Occupied Britain 15/01/2008 02:01:53
And what about the Government sponsored hate crime against smokers.
2

John Blackley,

Austin, TX 15/01/2008 02:15:38
Question: If I'm a politician, how can I curry favour with special interest groups? Well, there's the tried-and-true 'bung' tactic - also known as cash for honours in some circles. There's lobbying and its associated fees. But, if I'm a politician who doesn't have access to that kind of power then sponsoring a hate-crime bill is one way. It's saying, "Look. I care. Vote for me."

However, the law of unintended consequences means that, once special interest group #1 gets its special law, every other special interest group feels left out until they, too, can find a sympathetic politician to sponsor their special law. In the end, only the poor, bloody Mr. & Mrs. Average are left without equal protection under the law - seething and resentful against the special interest groups who get more consideration under the law.

Murder is murder, assault is assault - no matter what the reason. The government has no business trying to determine the thinking that led to a crime. Its business - through the law-enforcement agencies - is to detect and prosecute criminals and give its citizens equal protection under the law.
3

Guga II,

Rockall 15/01/2008 03:16:52
#3 There is no way that the current totalitarian, control freak government intends to give its citizens equal protection, or treatment, under the law.

Let's face it, the Mouth of the South has, by her own admission, broken the law, but will she be prosecuted? Only after the pigs have formed an airline. Will Hain be prosecuted? (We can't comment on that story as the Hootsmon, for whatever political reason, has declined to allow us to do so). Think pigs and airlines again.

This is just assorted pollies trying to curry favour with certain sections of society; no doubt encouraged by the fact that so many of them are homosexuals themselves. This is in addition to them being up to their armpits in sleaze and corruption.
4

Duncan in Edinburgh,

15/01/2008 09:00:08
#1 They aren't. But the law currently provides for statutory aggravations on the grounds of race and religion. Either statutory aggravations should be added for disability and sexual orientation, or no statutory aggravations should be in place at all. I would be sympathetic with either solution.

#2 Idiot.

#3 I understand your concerns. You should be aware that this is a crime prevention measure. If you believe that it is better to prevent crime than have to respond to it, then you should be in favour of anything that will do that.

The argument can be made that this legislation introduces a type of "thought crime", but in fact its motivation is solid and sensible. Homophobic assaults, and assaults on the disabled, can be prevented in a way that economic crimes cannot - by changing public perception and educating people about discrimination. One of the main ways in which governments can affect society is to create the absolute certainty that such attitudes are unacceptable by introducing laws which punish such behaviour.

We can prevent hundreds of people from being assaulted by introducing laws like this. I think on balance it is worth it.

#4 Your argument is fatuous. I notice that you pick on the easy target of gay people and claim that many politicians are gay and that is why they want this law - what about the disabled aspect? Would you say the same if a number of MSPs were themselves disabled and wanted to introduce such a law? No, because your natural bullying homophobic stance is not so easy to transfer across to disability. And we have the churches and mosques to thank for that, because their pious pronouncements are what helps to keep homophobia an acceptable part of Scottish life.

#5 Dave, read the article again. 75 homophobic incidents in L&B this year, probably another 30 against disabled people. Multiply that up across all force areas and you have many hundreds of victims a year. More, in fact, than there are murders per year. Would you a
5

Mr H 2u,

Embra 15/01/2008 09:25:29
Whatever happened to equality? A scandal and a disgrace.
6

sam the god,

15/01/2008 09:41:32
When will Kenny MacAskill, the justice secretary get the police to look into other crimes that have been committed and the person involved stating on TV that a crime has been committed (bendy Wendy) or is he not interested in getting justice where politicians are concerned?
7

Duncan in Edinburgh,

Edinburgh 15/01/2008 10:04:40
#8 Hi Dave. The point is that crimes of hate are preventable crimes. It is interesting that you mention Catholicism, because there are useful parallels. In the early 1800s, the tide of anti-Catholic feeling in Scotland abated, and laws which penalised them were largely relaxed. But assaults continued. In 1829, the Catholic Emancipation Act singled out Catholics for special treatment to try to overcome these continuing prejudices in society. And, of course, a few years ago, statutory aggravations for crimes motivated by religious hatred were introduced in Scotland, cementing inequality in law.

If these acts prevented assaults from happening, surely they were a good thing?
8

Duncan in Edinburgh,

15/01/2008 10:22:47
#11 I accept that if you frame this as "special treatment" then of course that argument can be made. But if you frame it as a sensible, necessary crime prevention measure, then what's the problem?
9

Horrible Cankers..dans le Cyber Shebeen,

15/01/2008 11:02:44
Lets see.....race crime..check..religious crime...check...disability crime...check...gay hate crime check...anything I've missed that the Nazis condoned that we should not?...cos we're not Nazis....
10

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 15/01/2008 12:57:42
If we have racially aggravated crime and religiously aggravated crime, the same protection should be extended to gays and the disabled.

If we don't think special protection is necessary for gays or the disabled, it shouldn't be necessary for people of particular ethnicities or religions either.
11

Reckless,

Fife 15/01/2008 14:04:15
The Proper Role of Government

"The important thing to keep in mind is that the people who have created their government can give to that government only such powers as they, themselves, have in the first place. Obviously, they cannot give that which they do not possess."

"As Bastiat observed, and as history has proven, each class or special interest group competes with the others to throw the lever of governmental power in their favor, or at least to immunize itself against the effects of a previous thrust. Labor gets a minimum wage, so agriculture seeks a price support. Consumers demand price controls, and industry gets protective tariffs. In the end, no one is much further ahead, and everyone sufffers the burdens of a gigantic bureaucracy and a loss of personal freedom. With each group out to get its share of the spoils, such governments historically have mushroomed into total welfare states. Once the process begins, once the principle of the protective function of government gives way to the aggressive or redistribute function, then forces are set in motion that drive the nation toward totalitarianism."


http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/daily/politics/bensen_proper.htm
12

Redfive,

15/01/2008 14:37:34
Why is the government constantly trying to tell us being gay is great and acceptable. Is it not written in the bible that a man should not lie with another man ? Are we not a christian nation ? Personaly I think it is wrong for same sex couples to have a relationship but if its not thrust into my life i can tolerate it, but i wont tolerate being told by politicians it perfectly acceptable because i think its disgusting and unnatural and I dont want my children exposed to it. They can make their own minds up about it when they are adults until then I will teach them its wrong and against gods laws - so stick that up your arrse you wiilly niilly politicaly correct liberal arrse banditt doo gooders.

This has been an affirmative action post - I will no longer tow the gov line on any of their directives I have my own mind and its up to me to decide what is right without interferance from the state.
13

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 15/01/2008 14:49:13
#17, there's a lot of rubbish written in the Bible. I just hope you never eat a prawn cocktail or a bacon sandwich, or Hell fire awaits . . .
14

Duncan in Edinburgh,

15/01/2008 15:28:16
#17 Haha. "They can make their own minds up about it when they are adults until then I will teach them its wrong and against gods laws."

Smashing. You want to teach your children that an invisible sky god rules over them, but protect them from the knowledge that some people are sexually attracted to members of their own sex.

You're priceless.
15

hertscot,

15/01/2008 15:51:55
#17, nice to know that there are good parents out there, indoctrinating and poisoning their children with religious gobbledygook and other fairy tale lies.

PS there are no Gods laws, the bible was written by men and compiled to deal with the socio-political realities of 3rd century Europe, throw the bloody book away and make up your own mind.
16

Horrible Cankers..dans le Cyber Shebeen,

15/01/2008 17:14:59
17...Affirmative action post...aye right...certainly affirms something...your brain's bruised from all that bible bashing....

Incidentally no..we are not a Christian nation..have a look at the churches pal they're half empty..nobody cares anymore...folk know its a load of guff now...they just carry on to keep up appearances...or they cannot shake off the indoctrination...guilty Catholic conscience and all that eh?
17

Helen,

15/01/2008 18:27:34
Redfive....you are quoting (selectively) from the book of Leviticus. In the same book we are told that men mustn't shave their beards off, we mustn't eat shellfish or wear clothes made of mixed fibres and oh yes, it's ok to execute your neighbour for working on the Sabbath!!!!
Let's not pick sentences from scripture and use them to further our own arguments. Leviticus is all about Jewish purity law and very little to do with relationships.
18

FLUB,

a rocky outcrop in eastern central Scotland 15/01/2008 20:22:32
This is actually quite despicable. Hiding a lifestyle choice which is viewed by the great majority of people with a complete lack of interest behind a genuine condition, namely disability, however it's defined, to obtain special treatment over and above current jurisprudence.

The law has always held that the status of the victim is to be considered when determining the facts of a case, therefore this is nothing more than grandstanding by a special interest group who wish to attract attention to themselves by pretending to perpetual victimhood.

Be advised, most violence against these people is visited upon them by their like minded peers.
19

henrymanchester,

UK 15/01/2008 20:47:48
All I know is that I'm afraid to go for a a pony in the local bogs because of all the hairy assed cottagers.
20

FLUB,

a rocky outcrop in eastern central Scotland 15/01/2008 22:39:38
Why is this story covered THREE times on this forum?
21

Horrible Cankers..dans le Cyber Shebeen,

15/01/2008 23:58:05
24...Bestiality in the local bogs!...whatever next...

 

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