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Published Date: 20 February 2009
THE smell of political corpses is wafting through the Labour corridors.
There is a sense of resignation that the next election is already lost and that Gordon Brown is a dead man walking.

So much so that speculation about the shape of Labour post-Gordon is already welling up.

Stories about Harriet Harman or Yvette
Cooper posing a challenge appear on the surface far-fetched. Some very important circumstantial evidence to take into account: it is recess so there are fewer obvious political stories to write and everyone is combating recession fatigue.

But the very fact that this speculation been allowed to well up is angering some who see it as undermining the Prime Minister.

One Labour MP in a marginal seat (well more narrow than most) is sceptical about any imminent challenges, saying: "Gordon is the only one who can sort out the economy."

Another Labour source closer to the Prime Minister was also unfalteringly on message. "The Tories just don't have any concrete ideas. Where is George Osborne when it comes to finding solutions to fight the recession?"

One MP who previously had doubts about Mr Brown at the height of the leadership speculation last year was also not demurring.

"What he needs to concentrate on is reforming the global economic order. There are more fundamental questions to be addressed than the next election."

It adds up to a sense that Mr Brown is fighting for a cause that he believes to be bigger than his own fate. Like Tony Blair, he is taking the long view that his immediate survival or popularity is insignificant compared to how the history books will judge him.

The PM, according to insiders, does not have time to plan an election campaign, he is too busy trying to save the world from financial ruin.

Just don't mention the polls – no-one in Labour will comment on the record about the 20 point chasm which has seen the Tories charge ahead.

But privately, one long-time activist expressed a lament about why comrades were "running around in a panic".

He points out that the Tories were routinely 20 points behind when they were in government, and they went on to win elections. "You never saw them preparing for their own funerals," he said.

Some within Labour have still not come to grips with being in power. And too much doom-laden thought has a habit of becoming self-fulfilling.



The full article contains 415 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 19 February 2009 11:56 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Gerri Peev
 
1

Jimmy Le Pie,

20/02/2009 00:05:03
From the Telegraph,

"A left-wing "dream ticket" of Harriet Harman and Jon Cruddas has emerged in the battle to succeed Gordon Brown when he steps down as party leader."

Looks like the bottom feeders and leaches are beginning to worry about their 'rightful' place at the trough!!

And so they should, they'll soon be history!!

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20/02/2009 00:20:52
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Big Dave Fae The Rigs,

20/02/2009 00:35:34
As Brown takes his first steps along the Green Mile, who will grasp the thorny thicket which as become

Brown's Broken Bankrupt Britain
4

Jimbo2,

20/02/2009 00:38:33
The smell of Labour sleaze is wafting through the political corridors.
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Boaby Dazzler,

20/02/2009 00:42:42
Imagine just how deranged you have to be to come here night after night pushing the Labour Party line.

They remind me of that Japanese soldier who fought on long after the war had ended.

And they say we are fanatical ha ha ha ha ha
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Jimmy Le Pie,

20/02/2009 00:44:13
#5

Where are the loyal unionists tonight??

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Big Dave Fae The Rigs,

20/02/2009 00:45:23
"Some within Labour have still not come to grips with being in power. And too much doom-laden thought has a habit of becoming self-fulfilling."

And some within Scottish Labour have not yet come to grips with NOT being in power. And too much doom laden thought and negative campaining against nationalism has become a useful toll for Alex Salmond to further Scotland's case for Independence.

It's Only a Matter of Time
It's only a matter of history repeating itself
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Big Dave Fae The Rigs,

20/02/2009 00:49:18
One Labour MP in a marginal seat (well more narrow than most) is sceptical about any imminent challenges, saying: "Gordon is the only one who can sort out the economy."

Flash!! AAAH AAAAAAHHH
He'll save every one of us

Gordon's alive!!!!

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Big Dave Fae The Rigs,

20/02/2009 00:51:44
Dave Cameron is comin Oh Ho Oh Ho
Dave Cameron is comin Oh No Oh No!!
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Big Dave Fae The Rigs,

20/02/2009 00:55:51
Do I detect a subtle change within the very fabric of The Scotsman

As the stale odour of sleaze emanating from the rotting corpse of Nu Labour drifts through Westminster
11

redcliffe62,

20/02/2009 01:03:07
Time for an analysis based on a current opinion poll. If(when)Cameron gets in, and there are just 2 Tory mp's out of 59 in Scotland, what will happen in the next Scottish election, and what would happen after 12 months of tory rule from london without a Scottish mandate, and a vote for labour is obsolete.
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frank mcbride,

lusitania 20/02/2009 01:06:54
The irony contained in this article is, truly, a joy to behold.

Well written, Gerri Peev; something that I never believed I would have cause to say.
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20/02/2009 01:09:04
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Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 20/02/2009 01:15:30
From Today's Times Online

'Pension funds may be raided to build schools'

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article5769537.ece

What another fine mess thanks to Lie-bore.



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TheScotsman,

Scottish Borders 20/02/2009 01:42:04
Slating Gordon Brown is now a National pastime. The only problem is there is no-one else in politics at the moment who could do a better job.
Yes he formed the new toothless FSA, and went on a spending spree during the good times, but where were all the voices of wisdom before they had the benefit of hindsight??
Vince Cable seems to have had his finger on the pulse for some time, but he is a member of a non party whose only real purpose is protest voting at by-elections.

Before all you rabid Nats start screaming that wee fat Eck would be the man, I am talking about the UK.

So, instead of posting vitriol about Gordon Brown, try something constructive for a change. Name one SERIOUS contender for the position of PM.
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frank mcbride,

lusitania 20/02/2009 01:48:30
#16, Tweedmouth.

Maybe, now, you understand the need for Independence.

You're last sentence says all that requires to be said. Thank you.
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20/02/2009 02:17:18
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Brian Hill,

20/02/2009 02:23:43
Gerri Peeve has always been more level handed than most of his colleagues but I have noticed a softening from other journos from time to time over the past month or so.

Perhaps as London Labour's cause looks more and more hopeless articles might become more even handed but equally the desire to save the union may require even more distorted articles re the SNP.

Doesn't seem to matter what they print, the SNP and A S just continues to march on towards the goal of Independence.
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TheScotsman,

Scottis Borders 20/02/2009 02:26:56
#17 PimpMyRide

Sorry Frank, good try but the Scottish people will not vote for independance. The SNP are only a convenient protest vote against the inept, arrogant, corrupt and crony laden Scottish Labour Party.
With the death of RBS and HBOS, and the plunge in the price of oil, independence is only a distant pipe dream.
Wee Eck is by far the most competent politician on the Scottish stage, but even he cannot perform the miracle that would give the Scots the stomach for independance.
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20/02/2009 02:38:25
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Ewan Randall,

20/02/2009 05:07:16
(#22) – (Traquir , Alba) – Why does someone that professes such confidence in the outcome of a referendum take a 16% undecided figure and make something out of it which doesn’t exist?

If it did exist would that make them not undecided after all?

Isn’t it somewhat negative of you to suggest that if you are undecided you are more likely to vote against?

If you have decided that an undecided voter is more likely to vote against, then isn’t it possible the whole 16% could vote against?

Even if your scenario was close to being right, or even better for the position you are talking about, and the figure was 0.5% away from 50% is it more or less painful to lose the vote by such a close margin?
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Colkitto,

River Clyde 20/02/2009 06:26:32
There will be more than a few Labour MP's having sleepless nights about losing their gravy train seats.
So much so,I expect a couple of defections to the Tories before the next election. I say Tories as the SNP won't have them.
Brown looks like a beaten man. A failed PM and Chancellor, and probably history will show he failed in the most spectacular way...worst ever !
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Ewan Randall,

20/02/2009 06:42:41
(#27) – (IndependentlyInclined) – You don’t consider a referendum a method of Scotland relieving itself on the road to independence?

When do you think a referendum will take place?

As you are so keen on gaining a Scottish constitution do you believe the Scottish government owes the Scottish people the opportunity to view an interim set of proposals on a future Scottish constitution before a referendum is put in place so that the Scottish people can see on what basis their country will be run on?

Should this not also include all matters constitutional which could be of interest to the Scottish people such as the continuation of a monarchy in Scotland?
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W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 20/02/2009 07:09:24
And the nationalists rejoice at the prospect of many years of Tory government. Shades of '79.
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Ewan Randall,

20/02/2009 07:19:49
(#27) – (IndependentlyInclined) – Did the dog contemplate failure when starting to cross the road?

Was the dog relieved when run over?
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Ewan Randall,

20/02/2009 07:26:55
(#30) – (W U Merchant) – What makes you believe the nationalists rejoice at the prospect of many years of Tory government?

Do you believe that the nationalists rejoice at any years of any political party of any Westminster government?

If you do believe that they do can you explain to me why you think this way?
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R.Soles,

Manchester 20/02/2009 08:10:41
Question: Who is the odd one out from the following list?

Lord Stevenson, former chairman, HBOS
Andy Hornby, former chief executive, HBOS
Sir Fred Goodwin, former chief executive, RBS
Sir Tom McKillop, former chairman, RBS
John McFall MP, chairman of Treasury select committee
Alister Darling, Chancellor of the Exchequer
Sir Terry Wogan, presenter of Radio 2 breakfast show
Answer: Sir Terry Wogan. He is the only one with a banking qualification.

Acknowledgement: Private Eye
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Ewan Randall,

20/02/2009 08:14:09
(#33) – (Traquir , Alba) – Would you not agree that the nationalists, and Scotland, will not rejoice at the things w u merchant talks about, or you suggest about the UK, Scotland are more than capable of acting and rejoicing in our own endeavours?
31

TWC,

20/02/2009 08:14:55
21 TheScotsman,

Brown keeps chanting his mantra like the Germans in the 30s but they unravel later
The Vat reduction
The Banks
500,000 jobs
Protection for People losing their homes

None of these has worked,The tories claim better use of the same resources would be better for the future.
Independence is almost certain without Fiscal control coming to Scotland.

A lot of Old Labour now consider the Ntats as a reasonable alternative.

Nu Labour will do to Brown what he had done to Wendy..... Cheerio Gordo.
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Mercutio,

FALKIRK 20/02/2009 08:19:25
#35 I'm sure you must be the expert on what "reeks" but you do sometimes sound like a little red guard chanting repetitive slogans at running dog political opponents.
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Marian,

20/02/2009 08:30:16
When Gordon Brown was Chancellor of the Exchequer he was dubbed "Macavity the cat" because he went to ground and could never be found whenever there was anything unpleasant going on for the New Labour government e.g.the protests over the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Once he became the UK's unelected P.M. there was nowhere to hide from the "buck stopping on his desk" - or so we thought, except that he has now adopted denial of everything as his response every time there is anything unpleasant going on for the New Labour government e.g the complete failure of his UK banking regulatory system.

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20/02/2009 08:32:23
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Mercutio,

FALKIRK 20/02/2009 08:36:38
#41 I suppose you are a fully fledged member of Kampfgruppe Salmond.
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TWC,

20/02/2009 08:36:40
40 Marian,

He still tries to get out of the UK at every opportunity under the guise of Global negotiations, but he just tries to stay out of the way of the buses.
You see it in every industry, the guy whose Annual holiday is always at the time when the business peaks arise. Or they phone in sick when someone has to go upstairs with the bad news.

Anyway the knives are out but the question for Scottish Labour is what are they going to do after Brown???
Push for More real Financial powers???
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20/02/2009 08:39:55
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20/02/2009 08:41:24
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20/02/2009 08:42:13
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20/02/2009 08:50:30
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Marian,

20/02/2009 09:06:15
Because of a primeval fear of the Tories, the Scottish voters en masse may vote for New Labour at the next UK Westminster election in a misguided attempt to gain protection from a UK Tory government but little realising all the Tories have to do is to win the south east of England to get back into UK government office irrespective of whether Scotland votes for New Labour or not.

If Scotland votes New Labour it will once again send down a bunch of New Labour's west central Scotland numpties and spivs who have no real interest on what happens in Scotland but are more concerned with what expenses and perks they can hold onto.

It is time that Scotland woke up and realised for the past 50 years Scotland has voted like sheep for New Labour yet got nothing in return.

Scotland's Labour MP's were especially impotent when Thatcher was in power and imposed the Poll Tax, decimated industries, etc.

In light of New Labours imminent political demise in the UK as a whole and the inevitable election of a very strong and commanding Tory government, Scotland must have a strong and patriotic voice in Westminster and the only way she will get this is with the election of more SNP MP's into Westminster.

Scotland electing 21 or 25 SNP MP's does not automatically mean Scotland's independence but what it will do is send a clear message to David Cameron if he treats Scotland with contempt, that it will not take a great deal more to break his UK union in half.

New Labour in opposition wouldn't send such an ultimatum to Cameron and to be honest they would just be an embarrassment to Scotland.
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20/02/2009 09:08:41
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 20/02/2009 09:25:50
#21 "Sorry Frank, good try but the Scottish people will not vote for independance."

You wish, maybe. Current trends suggest otherwise. Not only the clear short-term trend which shows steadily and consistently rising support for independence, but also political and demographic factors.

Firstly, the imminent Blue Tory government in Westminster will concentrate many Scottish minds. The Scottish people have been a bit slow to wake up to the obvious fact that there are no meaningful differences between Labour and the Conservatives any more, and will react with something approaching panic at the prospect of a generation of Real Tory rule. The chance to jump ship and leave England and Wales to their fate will persuade a fair number of waverers to the side of independence - perhaps even if only in the belief that an independent Scotland would then have the opportunity to elect Labour again. It could be the most dramatic piece of tactical voting in election history.

Secondly, there's a very pertinent observation in that Herald piece:

"Men, by 47% to 43%, were shown to favour independence, as did young people. Within the 18-24 age bracket, 47% back separation, as opposed to 32% who do not. Of those in the 25-34 demographic, 53% support the break-up of the UK...

Pensioners remain sceptical. In the 65+ bracket, only 30% agreed with the SNP proposition, while 57% expressed opposition."

In other words - opposition to independence is literally dying. As the Labour diehards who still think it's 1972 fall off their perches, they're going to be replaced at the ballot boxes by young people who don't even remember Labour as a socialist party, and believe in the SNP's social-democratic alternative to the neoconservative/neoliberal hegemony of Labour and the Tories.

The demographic trend is crystal clear, and as inescapable for Unionists as Brown's impending doom is. It's (only a matter of) Time.
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Ewan Randall,

20/02/2009 09:36:33
(#52) – (Rev. S. Campbell) –Is the Scottish government allowed to deal with constitutional matters under the Scotland act, such as referendums on constitutional matters?
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 20/02/2009 09:50:35
#53 How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
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The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 20/02/2009 09:57:51
Even the Pope doesn't want to know and wants to steer clear of the smell. Still the Boy will be back to ranting on like some automaton about solving global problems with global solutions and making Grand Bargain to get it all sorted so he ends up running the IMF or something. Something tells me the IMF will be along shortly for a different reason and one that he'd rather not hear. I once thought that Michael Foot had to be the worst ever but GB eclipses even his record.
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Mercutio,

FALKIRK 20/02/2009 10:14:31
Pope will accept PM's invitation to visit Britain:from the Herald to-day.

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brownlie,

20/02/2009 10:30:03
"The Prime Minister, according to insiders, does not have time to plan for elections, he is too busy trying to save the world from financial ruin."

Was the "insider" who gave this fatuous statement the Great Man himself?
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Rodster,

Glasgow 20/02/2009 10:31:32
#57 Mercutio

OO the F.T. P. Unionists are gonna love that LOL
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20/02/2009 10:47:53
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Number 6,

Germany 20/02/2009 10:51:13
Good Grief !!! Is this journalist looking for the sack.

That's about the most honest balanced article I have read on these forums.

Heaven only knows how the Unionista handlers are going to spin this one to the Flock.

The sooner Scots realise Labour are a Dead Party Walking, the better. There simply HAS to be a better alternative to both them and the tories, and it's the SNP who are providing the most logical choice.

Please |Please Scotsman, continue in this balanced manner and who knows, your circulation stats may return to double figures.
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pehman,

sussex 20/02/2009 11:02:46

58 brownlie,20/02/2009 10:30:03
"The Prime Minister, according to insiders, does not have time to plan for elections, he is too busy trying to save the world from financial ruin."

Was the "insider" who gave this fatuous statement the Great Man himself?

Brown lie, ho steady on there. you have to remember that it is less than a year ago he promised the party faithful at the slab con ference that u bendy would be the next 1st minister of Scotland. Ah those heady days when he spoke with carp all over his face. mind you not a lot changes does it

PS sorry for the typo
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20/02/2009 11:07:27
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 20/02/2009 11:09:17
And here was me telling folk that you never ever read any good news in the Scotsman!

Can we have more of this I personally find it very uplifting and it raises my spirits as I struggle to survive in Brown's doom laden Britain.

Keep up the good work!
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20/02/2009 11:09:34
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Davie08,

Edinburgh 20/02/2009 13:38:58
Gilson is going! Oh joy oh frabjous day. If they get rid of the clown at the Evening News Johnstone Press might just have a slim chance of saving these titles. I doubt it though. Years ago I didn't think anyone could do a worse job than Magnus Linklater then came Andrew Neil. Surely we have hit rock bottom I thought but no then came the egregious Gilson. Just goes to show that things can always get worse.
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20/02/2009 13:40:59
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Observer,,

Glasgow 20/02/2009 13:50:49
Hmmm I wonder who has been briefing the press against Gordon this time, and will it come to any more than the recent flurry over Cairns et al. Remember the rumour that one Minister a day was going to resign until Brown did ? I wonder if this attempt to push him out will have any more luck ? Somehow I doubt it, Labour don't really do ''regicide'' you need the Tories for that. They woulda got rid of hum yonks ago, like they did his heroine Thatcher.
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Eve,

Scotland 20/02/2009 13:53:42
"Just don't mention the polls – no-one in Labour will comment on the record about the 20 point chasm which has seen the Tories charge ahead."

Aye, I'm sure this time next year it will be a 30 point diffrence.
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Eve,

Scotland 20/02/2009 14:04:14
"One Labour MP in a marginal seat (well more narrow than most) is sceptical about any imminent challenges, saying: "Gordon is the only one who can sort out the economy."

The poor wee thing is worried about loseing there job. Don't blame them for making a daft comment to try and save their job. No one wants to be out of work at the mement find a job at the moment is nutorusley difficult.

Bet you they've heard the news that there is an estements 1 house repesed every 7mins this year. Which will possibley mean that the election will not be held untill next year in hope that the econmy and job opertunties have improved.
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The Master,

20/02/2009 14:06:27
#60 Rodster: how is the fact that Brown has held yet another reception for Mrs T in Downing Street evidence that he's a closet Tory? The House of Commons is a place of work, just like any other, and you can't really expect politicians to decline to mix with those of the other side for reasons of political dogma. Indeed, former PMs must, and should, have a bond that transcends politics, in the way that former US Presidents have an informal convention not to criticise those that succeed them but rather to offer support and guidance.

As for your plan to vote Tory in Eastwood, that about says it all about the Nats' basis of support. How the SNP expect to make any kind of meaningful longterm breakthrough into Labour heartland seats is completely beyond me.
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Queen D,

Glasgow 20/02/2009 14:15:16
The BNP seems to be making surprising headway in Labour heartlands!!
Friday, February 20, 2009
Labour & UKIP Voters Turn to the BNP in Kent By-Election
Iain Dale 10:51 AM

Swanley St Mary’s, Sevenoaks District Council
BNP - 41% (+41)
Lab - 34% (-21)
Con - 25% (-)

BNP gain from Lab

That has to be considered a BIG shot accross the bows of HMS Labour.
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Daveunderwater,

20/02/2009 14:18:29
The editor of The Scotsman newspaper has resigned from his post after just over two years in charge.

Mike Gilson, 45, who had been an editor of Johnston Press titles for more than 12 years, was a surprise appointment to the job in September 2006.

The Edinburgh-based newspaper confirmed his departure on Thursday night.

Edinburgh Evening News editor John McLellan is expected to take over as his successor in The Scotsman editor's chair on Monday.
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Daveunderwater,

20/02/2009 14:22:26
Flash Gordon

Saviour of the universe

Flash we've only got 24 hours to save the world economy!

Bank of England - Bring me Gordon's body alive!!
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IainGlasgow,

20/02/2009 14:34:30
#65

Well no one can say the SNP are anti-English then. Gordon Brown who has flushed their economy down the toilet on the other hand...

I believe GB has his first meeting in nearly a year with the First Minister next week. What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in that room.
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The Master,

20/02/2009 14:40:30
#72 Queen D: " The BNP seems to be making surprising headway in Labour heartlands!!"

Makes a change from the SNP, anyway! Nationalism does thrive at times of economic dislocation, so this comes as no surprise to me.
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 20/02/2009 15:01:27
#70 "How the SNP expect to make any kind of meaningful longterm breakthrough into Labour heartland seats is completely beyond me."

See #52. Tomorrow belongs to us etc.
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Davie08,

Edinburgh 20/02/2009 15:09:42
#72 So no change there then. The Evening News has been a depressing litany of carping negativity of late so it will be carry on regardless down the Swanny for the Hootsmon.
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Faux Cul,

20/02/2009 15:33:07
Seems like "Deadhand Brown" is in deep doo-doo wrt PFI and the banks.

Looks like he is asking Local Authorities to raid their pensions piggy banks to prop him up. As these LAs are trustees of the funds, they give in to him and these funds go mams up (bet your last M & S Y fronts on that) then the trustees will be in a very difficult personal position?

Gordon can always change the law, just like his mate Berlusconi?

Seems like, having destroyed the private sector's pension funds, he is about to to it to the public sector, as he has already to the NCB and British Steel ones already.

The man is mad and needs to be sectioned.

The worst PM and the worst Chancellor ever; what a legacy.
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Billiam Wallace,

20/02/2009 15:38:56
Rereading the article, is it a comedy piece akin to the sketch? The NuLiebore quotes are hilarious and pathetic in equal measure. "Gordon is the only one who can sort out the economy." Oh it's sorted all right. The way a Tom Cat is 'sorted' by the vet.

This certainly makes a refreshing change from the years of anti-SNP drivel we have had to put up with from the Hootsmon.

Saor Alba
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frank mcbride,

lusitania 20/02/2009 15:39:42
#79, Spook.

We all know that the Master is not happy using language accurately.
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Sanny,

20/02/2009 15:53:10
21 TheScotsman, Scottish Borders 20/02/2009 02:26:56

Quote “Scottish people will not vote for independence.” EndQuote: This may be your opinion but that is all it is. Now let’s see the supporting evidence for your opinion.

In revising your opinion I would ask that you consider the corruption that has been exposed in the Scottish Branch of the Labour Party together with the advanced forms of Sleaze and cover-ups practiced in the two major parties in the South of the Union. Then take the recently released government Papers showing the collusion between the governments, Labour plus Tory, and Whitehall to defraud the Scottish people.

Take into account the exemplary way the SNP, despite being a minority government obstructed at every turn by Labour North and South of the border, have managed the Scottish government. Putting Scotland first; simply because they are not required to seek approval from London for their every action.

Now consider the total wipe-out of Labour that will take place at the next GE coupled with a Tory government with a majority large enough to ignore complaints from Scotland. The Tory government at Westminster will be seen, rightly, as an enormous threat to Scotland and its people – memories of Thatcher will emerge to give sleepless nights.

The Holyrood election will take place approximately a year after the GE and in MY OPINION, if not love then fear will drive the Scots to the SNP in droves. If the SNP succeed in having a majority of Pro nationalist Scottish MP’s in Westminster and a majority in Holyrood, then there will be no need for a referendum. The Scottish people will have spoken and the will of the people will be recognised by the Council of Europe and the UN.

We live in interesting times!!
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karin.m,

20/02/2009 16:05:13
i see mike the online editor has got the punt for not turning the fortunes of this paper round.
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karin.m,

20/02/2009 16:05:38
gizza job i could do that.
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brownlie,

20/02/2009 16:20:42
88 The Spook

Naughty, naughty, Spook, don't mock the poor man who is, as we speak, studying his UB40 and wondering if Hamish can fill it in for him.

Have you had a look at Niko's blog?
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Davie08,

Edinburgh 20/02/2009 16:23:03
#87 You dont want this gig Karin. How many editors have they gone through now? See what cosying up to Labour gets you. Its the 'Curse o' Broon' I tell'ee.
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TWC,

20/02/2009 16:30:41
This paper was too slow in spotting the demise of Labour and kept supporting(unfairly) them too long.
The Herald could always wheel out McWhirter who was honest in his assessment.

More recently the Hootsmon has brought ot McNeill who has been a breath of air.
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Allan(handofgod137),

20/02/2009 16:33:17
#16 Micky Mouse could do a better job as PM.
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Davie08,

Edinburgh 20/02/2009 16:42:20
#93
I was working in the lab late one night
When my eyes beheld an eerie sight
A monster from the slab began to rise
and suddenly to my surprise
He did the crash
He did the Gordon crash
It was a smash
It caught on in a flash
He did the crash
he did the Gordon Crash
It was a graveyard smash
With apologies to Bobby 'Boris' Pickett and the Crypt Kicker Five
80

bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 20/02/2009 16:55:04
“Inside Westminster: A sense of doom envelops the government”

I guess these envelopes would be the usually expected “Broon envelopes “then.

You know the ones, expenses, donations, retainers, fraudulent housing benefit claims and consultancy fees.

All of which are completely “above board” and perfectly legal.

Apart from those which were an “oversight” on the part of the hired staff.

The Labourtories are institutionally corrupt, from top to bottom.

81

Faux Cul,

20/02/2009 16:56:36
I see that Broon gave the Pope and audience yesterday although I doubt that even the Pope couldn't sav ethe snot gobbler.

I wonder what they talked about, apart for the obvious topic of infallibility?
82

Faux Cul,

20/02/2009 17:00:10
sorry , save the snot gobbler
83

Gtj,

20/02/2009 17:12:37
The penny finally drops. Better late than never as the saying goes. There seems to be a lack of Knuckle draggers, Fudus and co.
84

karin.m,

20/02/2009 17:38:17
whats the difference between the pope and gordon brown.

the pope prays every day to save the world

gordon brown makes us PAY every day and HAS saved the world.
85

Faux Cul,

20/02/2009 17:50:17
100 McGillicudy's o'er the dyke

I watched the greeting ceremony which involved the two exchange funny handshakes and symbolic gifts so, it is the P2 then?
86

Brian Hill,

20/02/2009 23:24:02
I find it rather strange that at least two Traquir posts have been deleted.

Traquir has consistently written quality posts and more importantly, backed them up with appropriate tinyurls.

Why has he been deleted? Or is it the Traquir faker who has been deleted?

It would help if the Scotsman left the name of the post deleted, in fact, I am asking the Scotsman to leave the name above deleted posts.
87

David55,

Kirkcaldy 05/05/2009 14:37:31
Another Labour source closer to the Prime Minister was also unfalteringly on message. "The Tories just don't have any concrete ideas. Where is George Osborne when it comes to finding solutions to fight the recession?"

- If the Tories came out with their ideas, Labour would just nick them.
88

puskas,

East kilbride 11/05/2009 16:30:42
Well note this topic was written on the 20th Feb 2009.

"Inside Westminster : A sense of doom envelops the Government"

Well I post this comment on the 11/5/2009.

Watching the commons, and speaker Martin this afternoon during the discussion on expenses scandal I suggest the rats are scurrying about for the last time.

Temper, Temper Mr Martin.. The fear in most of the faces ( present ) was prevelevent..

Eventually discussing the Tamul demonstration...Aggrieved MP's
.

They have seen nothing yet if the public see a whitewash looming on expenses..
Apologies from the leaders are not acceptable inparticular from the Brown led Laybour Government.

12 years .. yes 12 years in Government and the individual pigs have all said it was within the rules... Sorry .
All welded to the trough and a grinder will have to release them to be carried to the hangmans noose..

Take your pick should Brown be first or last. What would the public get the most satisfaction from..

Crimes against the people at the very least deserves a GE as soon as is possible and clear the scum who should then recompense the public purse .

No Commission driven by Westminster, but by a jury of competent accountants nominated by different countries outwidth the UK.

Amnesty Internation I'm sure could help in an unbiased selection process..

One thing for sure no commission set up by Speaker Michael Martin will be seen as credible. He has no credibilty himself.


 

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