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Published Date: 31 October 2008
CHILDREN as young as five should be taught about the dangers of alcohol misuse, a leading figure in the drinks industry said yesterday.
Waiting until they are in their early teens is leaving it too late to avoid the dangers of binge drinking, warned Richard Paterson, master blender with the Glasgow-based whisky company White & Mackay.

Mr Paterson says parents should follow the le
ad of countries such as France or Italy and gradually introduce children to wine or beer at mealtimes.

He is also calling on the Scottish Government to produce alcohol guidelines for teachers and parents, aimed at primary- age pupils.

But last night teaching unions and opposition politicians criticised the proposals, saying that five-year-olds were too young for such lessons.

Mr Paterson said: "By the time children reach secondary school, their behaviours are already well-established and views on alcohol embedded.

"The earlier we can educate children on the benefits of alcohol awareness, and explode the myths surrounding alcohol, the sooner we can work towards a greater understanding of the dangers of irresponsible drinking."

According to a guide produced by national agency Health Scotland, many children have already been exposed to alcohol and tasted their first drop at home by the age of seven.

However, the majority of parents do not start talking with their children about alcohol until they reach early teens.

Alcohol Focus Scotland says the number of 13-year-olds who drink alcohol has doubled since 1990. Meanwhile, almost half of 15-year-olds and a third of 13-year-olds reported having drunk alcohol in the past week.

Mr Paterson added: "With these statistics providing sobering reading, it is really important that parents and teachers become involved in influencing children's behaviour when it comes to drink."

Elizabeth Smith, MSP, Tory education spokeswoman, said:

"I have some sympathy for introducing lessons on alcohol for children in the top years of primary but five is far too young."

Ronnie Smith, general secretary of teaching union the Educational Institute of Scotland, said: "There has never been any agreement on what is the right age to teach children about such issues but explicit lessons at five is probably not a sensible way to proceed. It should be included along with drugs, tobacco and diet in the context of promoting good health."

Tina Woolnough, chairwoman of the support group Parents in Partnership, backed Mr Paterson's views.

"Children aged five and under are very aware of what is going on around them and a good number will have already witnessed adults under the influence of alcohol. I think five is an OK age to speak to children about alcohol – by the age of 12 it is far too late. But the most important thing is that they witness adults being responsible."

A spokesman for the Scottish Government said: "We're committed to enabling our young people make positive lifestyle choices and (help them] understand substance use and misuse from around Primary 5."





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  • Last Updated: 30 October 2008 9:25 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Incandescent,

31/10/2008 00:47:46
For god's sake! In what way, pray tell, does the career of "master blender" qualify Mr Paterson to advise on child education. This has got to be one of the daftest things I've ever read!
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 31/10/2008 00:59:56




NONSENSE!!, ABSOLUTE!!, NONSENSE!!

Are these People For Real!?

Next they will be wanting to teach 5year old's, the encyclopedia of Life!!

..IDIOT'S!!, ABSOLUTE!!, IDIOT'S!!




3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 31/10/2008 01:12:03






LET A CHILD GROW, THROUGH CHILDHOOD FIRST, THEY HAVE THIS RIGHT!

And What!!, If Mummy and Daddy are Having a Drink, after you tell them,..'The Evils Of Alcohol', do you tell them,?

A 5year old has NO comprehension in such matters!

Such as they would NOT understand, my sentiments on this matter, which are,...

..'STICK IT WHERE THE, SUN DON'T SHINE'!,..FULL-STOP!!




(Boy! You make my,,...'Blood-Boil'!)





4

Scullion,

Canada 31/10/2008 01:22:56
Hmm, I'm thinking White & Mackay are looking for younger customers.
Children of this age who have seen abuse in their own house quite often repeat, not reject, the alcohol abuse pattern. I don't think school lessons will help. Its the parents who have to be educated.
5

Helter Skelter,

31/10/2008 01:31:43
It's part of the general attack on childhood.

Two years ago, a UN report put the uk as the second worst place in the world (amongst developed countries)to raise children...we were just pipped by the USA for the bottom slot.

The report confirmed my instinctive beliefs...you go on holiday anywhere else and in restaurants you see families out having dinner in an atmosphere of sober conviviality ...noone complaining abou the noise the children make : children are cherished and celebrated.

There aren't any dour faced looks of disapproval ...that's if you're prepared to run the risk of a bunch of drunks coming in and f.ing and blinding all over the place.

I don't know why it is, but for children the UK is simply a nightmare. Possibly it's down to a selfishness amongst the adult population who don't want their pleasures compromised which stems from an intollerance or at least an impatience with the needs of children.



6

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 31/10/2008 02:06:30



Helter Skelter @#5,


YOUR COMMENT DESERVES,....

..'THE BEST, COMMENT OF THE YEAR AWARD'!!

..WELL-DONE, INDEED!

I write in, 'Capitals', because I feel so strongly in this matter of,..

..'ABSOLUTE STUPIDITY'!!
7

Mcsnagpile,

31/10/2008 05:33:42
Aye son and remember always tae get the best malt ye kin afford an leave some in the bottle fur the mor'n
8

fife runner,

31/10/2008 06:02:04
come on he was only making a comment just as we all do at times in things we are not experts in. How many of us comment on education or schools but only know about them form our school days or what we hear in the press. We all know that the formative years are the most important in a child's life eg form birth to 5 years old so why not tell them about such issues? It can be dabatable if it will wrok but anything can be better than the carnage we see now with the deaths through alcohol abuse on the rise and illness costing the NHS nearly £3bn a year.
9

Thomas Laprade,

Canada 31/10/2008 06:14:44
Let kids be kids
Richard go tend to your knitting
10

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31/10/2008 06:25:01
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11

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 31/10/2008 08:40:34
It's becoming clear that the so-called experts are working towards children being taught how to fornicate, take illegal drugs and get drunk before they've learnt to walk.

I suppose in their warped and weird world, it is seen as "bold" and "adventurous" to keep thrusting adult issues on younger and younger children.

It's getting to the point that the sign "Baby on Board" will not just be a warning that soiled nappies are likely to be thrown from the car in front but also used condoms and empty Buckfast bottles.
12

MikeT,

31/10/2008 08:54:02
Sex education begins earlier and earlier. Result earlier pregnancies. Teach kids earlier about alcohol and they will drink earlier.
13

Rosscobhoy,

31/10/2008 09:59:29
He has a point when he says we should follow France or Italy. Educating young people on how to drink responsibly, and not view alcohol as some sort of taboo that shouldn't be done, as all that does is make it more appealing. Giving lessons in school is not the answer though, educating them at home is.
14

Joe90,

31/10/2008 10:23:03
More rubbish for the masses from the Scotsman! Like the other made up nonsense about the SNP 'rigging' the odds on the betting on the Glenrothes election, on which we are not being allowed to comment because they know that all but a few will shoot Hamish MacDonnell down in flames. If the Liebor supporters are also betting could it not also be said that they too are trying to rig the odds? What a load of S H one T! The best party for Scotland (SNP) will win, regardless of betting patterns. Grow up Scotsman!
15

Whopitt,

Edinburgh 31/10/2008 10:36:35
The term "primary school children" refers to children roughly between the ages of 5 to 12.

The cheap and obvious sensationalism of the headline writers who choose to represent them as 5 year olds is pathetic.

Discussing alcohol with 5 years olds is wrong and pointless. Discussing it with 12 year olds has some merit.
16

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 31/10/2008 11:26:11
I don't quite agree with you this time Charles. I taught my son about alcohol when he was not much older than 5. He asked me what the thing I was drinking with the bubbles in it was and so I explained a bit about beer.

I don't think that this kind of thing should be put down as a "must do", but on the other hand alcohol should not be hidden away from kids, and if they ask questions about it, they should be given straightforward answers---together of course with the caveat that if you drink too much of it, it will make you ill.
17

yolanda,

31/10/2008 11:26:50
For some reason the government seem to think that allowing the age at which a child can be given alcohol by a parent to remain at age 5 is sensible. As they are unwilling to change this ridiculous law, perhaps a sensible approach would be to educate the children about the substance their parents are allowed to give them. Many irresponsible parents wouldn't care whether it was legal or not, but at least some of the more responsible ones might think twice about freely giving their young teenagers alcohol if they knew it was actually illegal to do so. Considering the wide and varied ideas the government has about tackling alcohol misuse, I cannot understand why the won't legislate against parents giving alcohol to those who cannot legally purchase it.

As was mentioned above though, "primary school children" are generally aged up to 12. Why does the headline "pupils aged just 5", when the man appears to have simply said primary age children? Is it just because it sensationalises the issue, and the media like to sensationalise things? It is possible to provide appropriate education to older primary children and not to the younger ones.

Many adults and children do not even consider alcohol to be a drug, due to a lack of education. Age appropriate drug education (which must always include alcohol and tobacco), delivered by suitably qualified educators is, in my opinion, to be commended.
18

Vandala,

31/10/2008 11:40:47
#11. Kudos for the usage of the word "fornication."

19

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 31/10/2008 11:48:43
Yolanda:

Allowing kids of 5 to drink alcohol is NOT ridiculous at all. Obviously you wouldn't sit them down with half a gallon of real ale but there is absolutely no harm in them having a little sip of mum or dad's drink to see what it tastes like. Even if it was against the law, I would ignore the law without a second thought if I thought it appropriate.

Yet again this is an attempt at trying to define (and maybe ultimately legislate) what is simply down to common sense. And if they carry on down this route it WILL have negative consequences, in the same way that over-zealous enforcement of pub age limits has had negative consequences.

I do not consider alcohol and tobacco to be drugs and that is not due to a lack of education. It is a lack of willingness to knee-jerk. Technically speaking their chemical constituents could be classed as "drugs" but the reality is that "real" drugs such as cocaine, heroin and others are far more addictive and harmful that alcohol or tobacco will ever be during normal usage.
20

yolanda,

31/10/2008 12:28:50
#19, I disagree. A drug is defined as a chemical substance that alters the processes of the central nervous system. Alcohol and tobacco do this in the same way (and in some cases, to a higher degree) than those you call "real" drugs.

Drugs are not necessarily harmful in all cases, but in some cases, they can be so. Heroin is a physically addictive drug, as is alcohol, and tobacco. Cocaine is less so, and substances such as ecstasy are not physically addictive at all. The problem with people associating the term "drug" with only those which are illegal causes the real dangers of the legal drugs to be underplayed, and regarded by some as "safe". Education around the wider subject of drugs is important, and should include all substances which affect the central nervous system, as well as those which can be physically addictive.

There is little doubt that alcohol is unlikely to be harmful unless it is taken in safe doses, by adults whose bodies are equipped to deal with those doses. This should be part of the education about alcohol. I am not a believer in legislation for legislations sake, and in fact I think that if there was less legislation and more focus attached to enforcing existing legislation, this country would be in a far better state. That said, I know from experience that many young people are being given alcohol (an addictve and central nervous system altering drug) by well meaning parents in an attempt to "normalise" it for them. Studies show that the younger a child begins to consume alcohol, the greater the risk of negative consequences of alcohol in later life.
21

yolanda,

31/10/2008 12:34:21
Sorry, the above should say "if" it is taken in safe doses, not "unless".
22

we the people,

31/10/2008 12:47:10
12 you are wrong. the fact is the earlier children receive sex education the later they tend to become sexually active. ignorance is what leads to risky behaviour undertaken earlier.
23

alsirat,

Edinburgh 31/10/2008 12:57:48
It would not be difficult to explain to a 5 year old that drinking alcohol is bad for people, and makes them do silly things. That is both true, and an easy concept for even a small child to understand.
24

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 31/10/2008 14:57:02
#20:

I know how tobacco and alcohol can be defined as being drugs, however they are in no way as damaging as others.

"The problem with people associating the term "drug" with only those which are illegal causes the real dangers of the legal drugs to be underplayed, and regarded by some as "safe"."

That isn't a problem. It's the correct way to look at it. Tobacco and alcohol ARE safe, provided they are not taken to excess.
25

mgibson,

linlithgow 31/10/2008 15:29:34
I was in the supermarket buying my weekly bottle, when a little voice from a trolley next to mine said "that's bad for you". Perhaps teaching 5 year olds will cut down on the consumption of alcohol.
26

Robb,

31/10/2008 15:40:20
Biggest killing drug = tobacco

Most highly addictive drug = nicotine

One of the biggest causes of substance related social problems & health problems= booze.

They don't seem that safe to me. But it's all down to politics and revenue. The Government would rather harp on about cannabis, despite it being a fact that it's nowhere near as harmful as the legal recreational drugs.
27

Media 1,

cape town 31/10/2008 16:19:56
'We should teach pupils aged just five about alcohol'

OR

Maybe you should just scrap the dole and rid your society of the useless, slovenly, disrespectful scum that rapes the economy and its tax payers....
28

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 31/10/2008 16:21:39
What brand of propaganda do you read Robb?
29

Incandescent,

31/10/2008 16:49:11
#27 - Hear Hear!
30

Joe Macdelta.,

31/10/2008 16:51:26
Lets get back to schools teaching normal school subjects, and leave the perent lessons to the parents, let children have a childhood, this is getting crazy, next they will want to teach them to drive.
31

drunken proffet,

Tassy 01/11/2008 07:31:15
I seem to remember when I was about five, me and a mate got into a bottle of cider in my mum's shopping bag. Totally paralytic but I would say that it had no affect on my future life.

 

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