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GPs reluctant to extend appointment hours



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Published Date: 31 May 2008
MOST GPs in Scotland are shunning calls for them to open their surgeries during evenings and weekends, despite a pledge by ministers to increase access, The Scotsman can reveal.
Just 16 per cent of GPs have said they will definitely offer the extended opening for patients, according to new figures.

But the Scottish Government said it was encouraged by the numbers of doctors who had shown an interest in taking part in the
scheme. It follows a fall-out between ministers and GPs who felt the plans – backed by £9.5 million extra funding and £6.5 million diverted from money they already receive – had been imposed without negotiation.

Under the plans – and to qualify for the funding – GPs must work an extra 30 minutes a week outside normal hours for every 1,000 registered patients.

About 170 practices out of around 1,000 in Scotland have said they will offer extra appointments. A further 200 have expressed an interest without making a firm commitment.

The picture varied across the country, with some health boards more successful than others in getting GPs to sign up to extended hours.

For example, in NHS Lanarkshire, 31 practices out of 98 said they were willing to discuss the possibility of extended hours.

In NHS Grampian, 19 out of 84 practices were in discussions with the health board.

Out of 101 practices in NHS Highland, 27 had signed up to extended hours and 18 have shown a willingness but are still considering their options.

But in NHS Fife, just nine GP practices out of 57 have so far signed up to extended hours, and in NHS Lothian, only three of 130 practices are considering it.

In NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde, 25 per cent of the 280 practices said they would open earlier or later into the evening. But there was no interest from GPs in opening on Saturdays.

Dr Dean Marshall, chairman of the British Medical Association's Scottish GPs committee, said: "We are not against extended hours, we just don't think it's the best use of the money.

"The low numbers signing up is a reaction to the way that the Scottish Government tried to force us into this."

Nicola Sturgeon, the health secretary, said: "The extended hours arrangements are something that the public and patient groups put high on their list of priorities. This is an attempt to provide better, more accessible primary care services."

BACKGROUND

THE Scottish Government has said it wants to extend GP opening times to help people who find it hard to see a doctor during normal hours.

But health boards also view it as an opportunity to ease pressure on their other services, such as A&E.

NHS Lothian is hoping it can encourage more GPs to open their doors on Saturday mornings, when they see a surge in patients in A&E.

It is thought that as many as one in ten patients turning up at A&E should have been dealt with in primary care. Edinburgh Royal Infirmary's A&E department has seen a massive surge in patients – this year up to 115,000 are expected through its doors.

Dr Alasdair Gray, clinical lead in emergency medicine at NHS Lothian, said part of the reason for rising numbers was trouble accessing primary care.

"We still have patients pitching up because they can't access primary care," he said.

"We have to work at improving the level of access."

Dr Gray said Saturday GP openings could help reduce the numbers in A&E.





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  • Last Updated: 30 May 2008 11:06 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Health of the NHS
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 31/05/2008 00:43:56

Now you can see why I posted on "MENINGITIS" and the scenario! and some,..'Wonder' why my posts,?

It maybe still on here, if not just punch,.
'Meningitis Scotsman news' into Google to see my post!

Even Doctors argue my point!, but its not soo stupid re: this article, is it,?
2

Ginster's Pastie,

Grangemouth 31/05/2008 01:21:41
The extended opening on Saturdays will have zero impact on Emergency appointments and the use of A&E. The appointments will be used purely for pre-booked patients.

An absolute farce, with Gordy Brown wanting to be able to show how surgeries are open a few extra hours a week, while the money would be better spent making the actual out-of-hours arrangements (NHS24,etc) better by employing more (and better) frontline staff.

GB's method of trying to work every issue as a purely political one is his downfall.

Bye Bye Brown.
3

spiderman,

Argyll 31/05/2008 06:45:32
The GP contract was a disaster for the public and wonderful for the GPs. No more round-the-clock local care for the patient, just overpaid doctors. GPs used to work as a vocation, wanting to care for their local people whenever they took ill; now they're just grab-what-you-can do-as-little-as-possible chancers. A pathetic crowd who have let their patients down badly.
4

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31/05/2008 07:49:28
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obeone,

31/05/2008 08:56:49
My elderly parents often moan about the latest GP that they've met at the surgery and their general lack of interest, but they we're singing the praises of the 'dusky' skinned locum gp who came on a home visit recently. Why doesn't any political party propose European style compulsory health insurance rather than the socialist NHS model?
6

Clive Hamblin,

31/05/2008 11:29:56
The hours my son in law, a GP in a South Coast town, are unbeliveable. On average, he's away from home 12 pe day. Each evening he spends a couple of hours on administration. # 3 & 4 - you try it!

That said, and my son in law agrees, people tend not to be unwell at the medical professionals convenience, or indeed at their own.

7

James.com,

31/05/2008 12:05:40
Of course,this brilliant Govt. gave them lots more money for less (night) work in the last contract.We will all pay for the corresponding Pensions for years to come.
8

kimba,

31/05/2008 15:03:21
5. The NHS is the envy of the world,it may not be perfect but everyone can get health care no matter what their financial situation.
9

McMadman,

Edinburgh 31/05/2008 16:20:57
Yes, except only get sick in working hours if you want to visit a GP. The reason people put things off, get sicker than they might, and also clog up hospital depts, is because they can't see a doctor because they have to work.
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JT,

31/05/2008 17:19:25
Why not set up drop in clinics across the city for those who cannot get appointments during the working day. I have had to wait SIX WEEKS for an routine appointment as I leave for work at 8am return about 6 if im lucky ususally closer to 7pm and work on the other side of town from the surgery.My doc starts between 830 and 9am. When you ring up for an appointment, you are made to feel that you are being an inconvience to them for asking for first thing in the morning. Also why is that old people and those who dont work are at the surgery before 9am! for their routine appointments. Cant they wait a couple of hours so those who are working can use the appointments unless of course its an emergency. Thats what I tell people that its an emergency but I do not get to see a doctor though!
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31/05/2008 19:28:58
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Douglas,

Bathgate 31/05/2008 21:57:06
Aye Rab, it all changed after Patrick Troughton.
13

Matt there,

somewhere 01/06/2008 14:39:15
Between 9 and 6? Fat chance!

My Doctor is only their 3 days a week and not all day, then, rolling in at about 10am to start work.
14

Zetam,

Glasgow 02/06/2008 14:01:31
It seems to me you all believe what you read in the papers. Its time this myth that GPs earn more for less work was put to bed!

You see more of your GP than ever before; you demand more of your GP than ever befor; hospitals are chucking you out earlier than ever before; hospitals discharge you from outpatients earlier than ever before; more investigations that can be done by the GP are done by the GP before you go near hospital than ever before; those who may have a chronics illness are actively sought out - never done in th past; and those with chronic disease are monitored by your GP not the hospital any more. I could go on. And who do you think works for the out of hours service????

All this has been added to the normal daily stuff a GP sees which has steadily increased over the years. The average new consultation rate's gone way up. Meanwhile medicine is constantly evelovong with more and better treatments available, needing more and careful monitoring due ti the ever increasing complexity.

Your GP doesn't only work when there are no face to face appointments. What about all those special prescription requests? What about all the results from investigations that have to be analysed and acted upon? What about all those letters from hospital and attendances elsewhere in the system that have to be read and acted upon? What about housecalls? What about the ever increasing number of elderly housebound? What about the care of those in nusring homes/care homes. What about the out of hours service? The work doesn't finish just because the surgery's finished!

I've been a GP for 25 years and never have I had to so hard and so intensively as I do now.

It is incredibly demeaning to find the public taking at face value what the polticians and the media would have you believe so they can tick their policy boxes. I would never do this job under the current circumsances if I was starting again. And to read some of the postings here makes me very
15

Zetam,

Glasgow 02/06/2008 14:02:35
...angry!

Sorry so angry forgot to include last word!
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AndrewST,

Scotland 02/06/2008 22:30:50
Zetam,
Couldn't agree more. The continuous and well funded anti-GP media campaign continues. They will now be blamed for refusing to provide a second rate service in the evenings and weekends. This has nothing to do with funding and everything to do with professional patient care. These politically driven appointments designed to enable commuters to have better access must be made open to the whole practice list. If you do see a GP then you will not have access to laboritory investigations or to a normal hospital service because they will not be extending their hours to match.
Where is the funding coming from, well some is new money that had failed to be invested in the last couple of years and the rest will be dicverted from the care already being provided. In fact these extended hours only require a GP and a script pad, opening the way for more attacks on GPs. My GPs already start at 8am and are still there at 9pm doing paperwork which is ever increasing.
I think it is time we stop beleiving the politically driven spin in the papers and start to actually ask our GPs for the real story. Perhaps this might open some of the more closed and ignorant attitudes posted above.

 

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