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Frail in charge as Hearts begin pre-season



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Published Date: 25 June 2008
HEARTS have confirmed that Stevie Frail will resume his role as caretaker manager when the first-team squad return for pre-season training this morning.
The former Tynecastle full-back was installed as interim head coach on 1 January as club owner Vladimir Romanov launched his search for a new manager.

With primary target Mark McGhee having since stunned the Gorgie hierarchy with his decision to
remain at Motherwell, the hunt appears no closer to a successful conclusion.

Icelander Gudjon Thordarson of Akranes, Slovakian Vladimir Weiss of Artmedia Bratislava and Russian Andrei Zygmantovich of FBK Kaunas were said to be on a three-man shortlist for the job following McGhee's snub.

However, with former France manager Jacques Santini intriguingly throwing his name into the frame, Weiss is now thought to be favourite to take over the Slovakian national team and Thordarson has not been contacted by the club.

Director Sergejus Fedotovas last month indicated he was confident an appointment would be made before the start of pre- season training but the club remains in a state of limbo as players return.

They will at least have the comfort of familiar faces on the training field when they begin their warm-up for the new campaign in the coming days, however, with Frail and sport director Anatoly Korobochka in charge of overseeing preparations following today's medical and fitness tests.

A club spokesman said: "The players are due back in at the club and Stevie Frail will be in his usual caretaker's role."

Hearts' most promising youngsters have been challenged to follow in the footsteps of teenage striker Gary Glen and win themselves a first-team place in the coming campaign.

Under-19s coach Darren Murray said: "There are a lot of talented youngsters here, as well as a real desire and hunger within the squad. Gary Glen broke through last season and Scott Robinson also made his debut, so the lads know they will get an opportunity if they are doing well."





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1

OB1Yorkie,

Yorkshire 25/06/2008 00:18:00
Although i'm hacked off we haven'y got a new gaffer yet, I remain optimistic(slightly) for next season. Vlad appears to be trying to get the right man and seems to be willing to hold on until such time. This year would be good. Until then, why not offload most of the overpaid, underperforming, demotivated objects on our books if the money is right. If you told me 10 years ago we would be selling players of average ability for £1m plus i would have happily sold them.
Time will tell....
2

KingKenny,

25/06/2008 03:19:51
I don't interesting Stevie Frail keep his job. Search Good Coach~~~~~~~~~~~~~
3

Black Five,

edinburgh 25/06/2008 06:40:18
All my predictions have come true.Frail is back,nothing has changed.No one with any credibility would touch the job.The fans who have purchased season tickets have been short changed.It`s a sorry situation and the only way out is for someone or persons who can relieve Romanov of the Hearts.There is no other answer.Hearts will be relegated this season if Hamilton play anything at all.There is absulutely no way this club can continue with this regime and abject pool of players and a coach who is as thick as two planks.What a shambles.
4

Jon Bon Jovi,

25/06/2008 06:43:55

what a mess.... joke club!!!
5

MarkJ,

25/06/2008 07:12:55
Compared with the wild optimism of this time last year my expectations are a lot more modest.

I think that the search continues for a coach in the continental sense. That is someone to work with the players individually and collectively through training.

And there should be sufficient strength within the current squad to improve on the performances we endured at the tail end of last season. Whoever that coach may be, it's obvious VR will still be selecting the transfer targets. And that will be a major deterrent to any traditional uk manager. Continental coaches unless they have real standing have usually much less control over anything beyond the traing ground.

It's in the critical area of team selection that the real issue lies. Even pragmatic continental coaches wont want their reputation and future ambitions tainted by selection decisions made by VR that have a detrimental effect on team performance. So SF returns to the spotlight as an interim. VR's alternatives reduce everyday.

For what it's worth I believe a coach will be found and younger team will develop throughout the season. Expected finish, somewhere between top four and top six.
6

Alan T,

EDINBURGH 25/06/2008 07:23:44
I've been holding off renewing my season ticket until Romanov delivered on his promise of a new manager.
No chance now.
How difficult can it be to employ a manager. All other clubs manage to do this within reasonable timescales.
This cant go on.
7

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 25/06/2008 07:30:17
Groundhog Day!

8

ValdasTheMan,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 07:37:26
What's Lithuanian for 'pissup' and 'brewery'?
9

Scotland world cup victory,

marooned 25/06/2008 07:42:32
This really comes as a surprise.
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Scotland world cup victory,

marooned 25/06/2008 07:49:41
Re. # 2

"Vlad appears to be trying to get the right man and seems to be willing to hold on until such time".

You are having a laugh! Trying to get the right man (as manager) would start with conceding full control over team selection and any other on-field matters.

Romanov never has.

Really can't share your optimism.
13

Scotland world cup victory,

marooned 25/06/2008 08:02:55
# 14, 15

Please spare us your insightful visions, loudmouth.

You think you are pretty clever having predicted Stevie Frail in charge for the new season.

Most of us have been able to work that out long before you. Try something inventive.
14

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 25/06/2008 08:30:16
No doubt Frail's involvement with the pre-season will lead to daily quotes from the players saying how much they love "Shaggy" and want "Shaggy" to get the job.

If they love "Shaggy" so much, how come they didn't bother to play for him in all those "must win" games?

By all accounts the players were made to work hard during the previous 2 summers and didn't like it one bit, now they are in for an extended holiday with Frail. Let's see if it makes any difference.
15

Glorious Hearts,

25/06/2008 08:37:59
#14 why not wait til the start of the season and see if you're right?
16

Maroon tinted glasses,

25/06/2008 08:45:27
I just put "cant sleep please help" into google and it came back with a video of last seasons uefa cup final with the heading "warning viewing rankers tactics WILL cause drowsiness".

Also if you type in "yellow bellied fans" or "scourge on brittish football" it brings up videos of the bigots fighting in manchester.
17

Edinburgh's Big Team,

EH11 25/06/2008 08:45:37
obviously i would rather have someone in sooner but of more concern to me than the timescales is the fact that no other candidate with british football experience is being considered since McGhee turned it down. The test about how serious they are will be if they decide to even speak to Santini or not...if not then they are not really interested in delivering on the playing side
18

Vladimir Buggerov,

25/06/2008 08:46:25
Frail does as he is told, the team list is faxed on friday and then altered to suit. He is now hurriedly getting his required coaching badges.

Under this current situation, he is as good as it gets - for all parties. THAT is how dire the current situation is.

The thing is, for those who jump in and mock on a daily basis... this same owner could also go and sign Hearts 8 very good players within in a matter of days.
Swings and roundabouts hobos, but we will have the last laugh... WE ALWAYS DO.
19

LyonHearts,

le teil 25/06/2008 08:48:17
No more news about Santini except a two day old story on the Skysports " Hearts" page!

Looks like that one was maybe stirred up by the media as there's seems to have been no reaction from Vlad!

I don't mind Frail - Ok he's not a world class coach, but he's loyal and he's about the only person that work under Romanov's regime!

MON THE HEARTS
20

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 25/06/2008 08:55:03
#21 & #23. Personally I have my doubts about Santini. He was up for the job when Burley was appointed so why Burley over Santini at the time? Money?

Obviously I don't know what Santini's expectations are now after taking a 2 year break, but he was reported to be receiving £45k per week at Spurs and was paid £3m in compensation when he was sacked. Even if he has dropped his expectations a bit (he was up for managing Tunisia a couple of months ago), he might still be too expensive for us. Or do we want Romanov to risk paying big bucks for this guy?
21

kiwidoug,

22 In A Row 25/06/2008 08:55:39
If our esteemed puppet Chairman won't make any public comment on the current situation at Tynie, what about that nice bit of tottie who was also on the Board?

I'd love to hear what she thinks about anything!!!!!!!!!!
22

Who?,

25/06/2008 08:59:48
The hearts fans should be pleased its only Frail and Korobochka. While i always knew that no new manager would be in place right now i was afraid Malofvee would return to take preseason.

The fact that malofvee isn't anywhere near edinburgh shows the "search" for a manager continues. However the longer it continues the more likely he will rear his head at some point.
23

kiwidoug,

22 In A Row 25/06/2008 09:02:19
And another thing! Why do we never hear anything about these players who earn gazillions but never play. Pinnilla, Aguiar (not even sure how to spell their names).

Are they experiencing an unprecedented bout of fitness and likely to contribute antything next season?

Somehow, I think not but you never know.
24

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 25/06/2008 09:10:42
#27. Pinilla is an enigma, so who knows what next season will bring as far as he is concerned.

On Bruno Aguair, he suffered a very serious injury and only got back into playing some reserve games towards the end of the season. I saw him in those reserve games and he looked OK, could provide us with some much needed experience in midfield. I would take Bruno over Stewart any day.
25

SouthSideHibs,

25/06/2008 09:14:09
#22 VB, "this same owner could also go and sign Hearts 8 very good players within in a matter of days".

In case you haven't heard, HOMFC will be selling their players to get the debt down. No more World Cup stars and top flight managers for your lot, I'm afraid.

But hey - I like your attitude. Still the Big Team an aw that.
26

The Maroon Seasider,

Dunbar 25/06/2008 09:18:52
The whole situation is beyond embarrassing now. Six months ago I was slightly annoyed - now I am completely disillusioned and angry. The question in my mind at the moment is why has all this being conducted in such a public way? Surely any candidates should have been approached in confidence, and any job offer remain behind closed doors? Someone accepts the position (good luck to them, by the way), THEN you put out a press release. A group of no-marks have turned HMFC into a laughing stock, and if they claim they have any clue on how to run a football club then they should be ashamed of themselves. Mr Ogilvie should pull his finger out his backside, and make a stand. Mr Frail – head home and forget about it. Please.
27

We love fitba,

google! 25/06/2008 09:20:24
Hearts have a "usual caretaker role". Says it all, really.

Has any club, in the history of football, ever taken longer than 6 months to appoint a manager? I'd genuinely like to know.
28

We love fitba,

google! 25/06/2008 09:22:15
As an aside, I see the many of the usual Hearts contingent on here are picking and choosing their arguments now...

Rolland? Wookie? Victorian? Nothing to add?
29

huggs,

25/06/2008 09:26:20
7 months on and still no manager Joke!!
Frail in chargw again bigger Joke!!
He has no respect no power and no backbone
Thought last season was a blip no i am not so sure
Davies is the perfect man to take us forward but as he is not a yes man Romanov will not go near him,I really have a fear over the start of next season
Frail has already shown he cant control players like Nade and Panilla his tactics and changes have been terrible at times
Please get a manager in soon or we will be bottom half again
30

Silence of the Yams,

25/06/2008 09:33:06
Nice to see some continuity at Swinecastle!
31

porters at 9,

25/06/2008 09:35:56
does anyone know if Frail still thinks he's got a chance to manage the great unwashed this season?

He must do, otherwise why isn't he putting his name about trying to get any vacant jobs either as gaffer or coach?

think he would prob do no bad if the puppet strings were cut - he isnae bad for a ginger c0ck
32

The Maroon Seasider,

Dunbar 25/06/2008 09:39:20
#38 TT - I would think that the search is still on, but my worry is that it turns into a stand-off between Romanov and the management 'establishment', where he refuses to back down on the issue of team selection. He is obviously an extremely stubborn man. Result: no appointment. Do we want someone who accepts those conditions anyway? Frail only has himself to blame now. He's being used to prop up the hierarchy and I have no sympathy for him anymore. Sorry, Shaggy.
33

Vladimir Buggerov,

25/06/2008 09:43:04
#31 SouthsideHibs

4-0 shut it.
34

Around the Funnel,

25/06/2008 09:45:23
#34 While I agree with you that this is a ridiculous situation you ask why it is being done so publicly. I challenge you (or any of the Hibby morons) to find a direct or official quote from anyone at Hearts in the past couple of months regarding the search for a manager other than the statement that Hearts had asked for permission to speak to Mark MGhee and then another statement saying that deal was dead.

How do we know that candidates aren't being approached in confidence as you suggest. If it was in confidence, by definition we wouldn't know.

Having said that, I agree that the whole situation is farcical.
35

Who?,

25/06/2008 09:45:46
#38 - you are correct. There was a campaign to silence opinion and those genuine hearts fans who disagreed with romanov and his running of the club. Their only tactic was to shout down and abuse anybody who had the audacity to disagree with them. They spouted a lot of baws about business practices claiming. Anybody who had a counter agrument had to supply evidence or the abuse increased.

Its fair to say everybody knows who they are.

From what i understand there are several hearts employees who post regulary on these boards and others setup for fans of the club. Whether they are doing this at the clubs behest of not i do not know. However if you post anything about vlad or the club they disagree with then just wait for the torrent of abuse.

Sad really, after all its only a game of football!
36

A big boy dun it an ran away,

25/06/2008 10:01:33
Dae’n naithin whul an ootlander spulyes the Hertz is gittin yees naewhaur, stan up an fecht if yees vailyie yur histry
37

The Maroon Seasider,

Dunbar 25/06/2008 10:10:22
Not much official, granted, but enough to do the damage. And who reveals these short lists? And why was Weiss allowed to discuss it before he made a decision? My main argument was/is that public relations have hit rock bottom, and the club is making it impossible for themselves. I'm suprised Fedotovas can walk with all those bullet holes in his feet.
38

victorian of gorgie ,

25/06/2008 10:12:48
#38 tommytommy, the only campaign to silence opinion ever to have been performed on this forum has been from the likes of you and your other usernames biley & serg.

turning the threads into a maniacal farce has had the result of putting people off from posting opinions, therefore that is a campaign to silence opinion.

writing to the administrators to have people removed is also silencing opinion.

don't make out you're being oppressed in some way, it's your cabal that is responsible for any threat to free speech, and there are more and more people realising that.

#44, i've got to say i've heard it all now.

"from what you know there are several hearts employees who regularly post on this board"

fantasy son, pure fantasy, pure and simple sh** stirring, nuisance making fantasy.

there is a wide spectrum of opinion expressed on the hearts threads. good, healthy debate. there are a number of people who all have a good banter and get on well with each other, despite having directly opposing views about hearts.

for some reason there are forces at work who only want to destroy that.

39

Maroon tinted glasses,

25/06/2008 10:13:23
44

I have to disagree with you regarding the silence campaign, I for one disagree with romanov and his running of the club and for this reason i have decided not to renew my ST while that bufoon is still there. The only time you really ever get fans on here having a go at others is when certain people come on just to wind the hearts supporters up.

If you can find a thread regarding a team that when people come on who dont support that team start to slag it off and the supporter dont bite back, please direct me to it.

When you get people like Timmy, riley, Old Firm, Serge ect ect who support other teams and start going on about "Joke to scottish football" on these threads then what do they expect.

Since timmy has commented today we shall use him as an example.

Timmy Timmy - supports alloa yet is on here constantly slagging hearts off "for the good of the scottish game" yet i bet he isnt on any rankers threads going on about the disgracefull picture that the rankers fans have painted about scottish supporters or the fact they want ot boycot the scottish cup and scotland games, or even on the other half of the old firm's threads questioning why a large section of fans sing songs about a terrorist organisation based in different country.

The real reason is not because they feel its for the good of the scottish game but they want to wynd the fans up.

No one who supports hearts are happy with the current situation BUT at the moment as the saying goes "you can only pi55 with the c0ckyouve got"
40

victorian of gorgie ,

25/06/2008 10:24:03
#50, "the abuse commences".

there is not one iota of abuse in my post. that says it all about you tommytommy, crying foul at the first opportunity. squealing like a stuck pig.

what is my opinion about the management saga you ask?

i'll give my opinion and discuss the saga with people who want to debate the issues in an honest manner.

41

Maroon tinted glasses,

25/06/2008 10:28:31
timmy

without trying to "abuse" or indeed "upset" you then i would like to ask, Why do you come on these treads and what do you hope to gain from it?
42

Indy Rep Kid,

25/06/2008 10:30:10
#46

"When legitimate questions are raised about management practices the personal attacks begin"

Timmy: Can you confirm that you have passed on your knowledge of Vlad's fraudulent/potential money-laundering activites to the relevant authorities?

43

Maroon tinted glasses,

25/06/2008 10:32:30
Timmy

Do you honestly believe there are many hearts fans out there who DO actually agree with the way romanov has been handling things. so what is your point?
44

Hibby Heapy,

25/06/2008 10:35:09
... all this and club card points as well!

Tick Tock!
45

Indy Rep Kid,

25/06/2008 10:35:33
#52

"If you want to discuss these issues then we can."

No, I want to discuss the Bednar transfer. Can you explain for us less enlightened and deluded Jambos how it was 'dubious'? Can you confirm the source of your knowledge? Are you able to detail exactly how it benefitted Vlad? Have you advised the appropriate authorities?
46

victorian of gorgie ,

25/06/2008 10:44:34
#58,

And off we go into the fog.

"I want to a good successful Hearts team but this isnt possible under Romanov.Discuss."

ok, yes it is.

do you have any tangible evidence to bring forward regarding your previous comments about asset stripping and missing millions?

quid pro quo tommy, yes or no?

47

Indy Rep Kid,

25/06/2008 10:45:51
#58

Where's the fog? You have constantly made accusations on here that Vlad is up to no good financially. You appear to have concrete proof of this (otherwise why would you publicise it on a public forum) and therefore I am asking if you have alerted the authorities yet.

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Indy Rep Kid,

25/06/2008 10:49:29
#62

WE KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
50

victorian of gorgie ,

25/06/2008 10:52:19
#62, never thought in a month of sundays that i would ever agree with anything you said but i do there.

frail has no backbone all right. badly treated by hearts and looked like he was being discarded, he's had weeks to sort out another job but no... frail opts to hang around like a love-sick puppy.

frail is a hopeless manager and appears to have no stomach for testing himself in the real world of football management. a total impostor.

51

Indy Rep Kid,

25/06/2008 10:53:20
#64

"Im right and you know i am"

Good argument.

Now, about Vlad's fraudulent activities....
52

victorian of gorgie ,

25/06/2008 10:54:24
"i'm right and you know i am"

this is tommytommy's definition of debate.

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Amburno,

25/06/2008 11:10:53
#68

"Who else, if your not here speak up now"

Would it not be hard to speak up if they are not here :o)
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Amburno,

25/06/2008 11:19:04
#71

my thoughts too, even though it is likely we would be in the same boozer (if it's a match day)
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Indy Rep Kid,

25/06/2008 11:20:20
#69

"Hearts bought Bednar from Kaunas.And the fee is registered where?"

Good question. Where exactly would you expect it to be registered? What do you KNOW is the reason for it NOT being registered? And is this not an issue for NEXT year's accounts?


"Romanov was the go between in the transfer.Is this a conflict of interests ? To be fair .Did he not realise what he was doing?"

Another good question but is it illegal?

My main point is: you made statements of FACTS that Vlad was on the fiddle and that transfers were 'dodgy' and yet you are simply posing questions - the same as the rest of us do.

So you have your suspicions but so does every sensible Jambo.

Maybe you should think before posting "FACTS"?


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LyonHearts,

le teil 25/06/2008 11:23:26
#23 Personally I don't think we should be paying " big bucks" for anything at the moment - not till the debt is reduced to a managable level!

No way should Hearts be forking out £1m plus on wages for anyone! I think we've had a real rollercoater ride with Vlad and now it's time to be sensible and steady the ship!

My expectations are way more realistic and I think all this CL in three seasons, world class players etc...should be well and truly put behind us!

I think a top 4 finish and a wee cup run would do most of us nicely!

MON THE HEARTS
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Maroon tinted glasses,

25/06/2008 11:38:08
timmy,

The signing on fee's are a bit of a puzzle and this was raised during the AGM but if the people involved dont give us a proper response then how can we do the same for you.

Hearts bought bednar from kaunas last year so i think it will be on this years accounts.

Conflict of interests, if fifa though there was anything untoward they would be onto it in a flash.

The Arbroath thing, it wasnt a transfer fee so the Legally binding contract wont apply, however hearts said they would give arbroath money so i hope they will but as no date was given then no one has cause for concern.

The manager/Hearts going forward, are really both down to the same thing. Romanov can take the club forward BUT he will need to change his meddling in the team selection process and this is the same reason we cant get a manager.

The questions you ask have all been given the same responses in the past but yet you still persist to ask the same questions.

So now please respond to mine - What is your point and what do you hope to gain considering you are an alloa supporter.
63

Ayrshire Jambo,

25/06/2008 11:38:17
Really bored with this tommytommy nosey-parker and his crusade. Taking over and ruining our thread again. Can we return to the main 'story'? Ok, we are back where we started at the end of last season. Is our caretaker manager going to permit himself to be carelessly referred to as "Shaggy" by his players once again this season? Or will he demonstrate that he has some authority and respect by encouraging more appropriate references to someone who is helping to front one of Scotland's top football clubs. I do believe this would be a start.
64

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 25/06/2008 11:39:26
#36. Personally I spend less time here. It has become almost impossible to have a proper discussion on any of the topics thanks to idiots like Tommy, Biley, Old Firm, bring them on etc etc.

They turn every comments thread into a farce, I can only assume that these individual are mentalists! There is no other explanation for their behaviour.
65

victorian of gorgie ,

25/06/2008 11:39:46
tommytommy - champion of open debate.

his motto is "i'm right and you know i am".

*cries wolf about abuse when no abuse has occurred.
*bleats about free speech being denied while oppressing free speech of others.
*perpetrates potentially libelous allegations about people which he refuses to validate.
*demands people answer his questions and engage in his idea of debate while dishonestly avoiding questions in return.
*refuses to confirm what his real agenda is while masquerading as a source of factual information.

why then do we even bother?

66

Maroon tinted glasses,

25/06/2008 11:46:01
Timmy

i responded to your questions so please do me the same honour otherwise it just confirms peoples views towards you that you can dish it out but cant take it.
67

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 25/06/2008 11:46:22
#40 I didn't realise that Frail was up for the hibs job.
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Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 25/06/2008 11:48:13
#86. You just demonstrated how stupid you are.

Where did I say that I was not interested?

There really is something wrong with your head son!
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victorian of gorgie ,

25/06/2008 11:51:20
this is getting ridiculous. his real agenda is fairly obvious although he wont admit it, to annoy hearts fans and turn the threads into chaos.

all very noble i'm sure.

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Maroon tinted glasses,

25/06/2008 11:56:41
Morning vic,

re timmy timmy

I agree, people responded to the questions in a non abusive manner yet when we put questions to him he hides away and choses not to reply or gets abusive.

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Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 25/06/2008 11:56:51
#25. Julija Goncaruk is a non-executive Director. She works on the commercial and retail side.

With Hearts turnover increasing, she is probably doing not a bad job.

#30. See above timmy! If you don't know anything, why do you just keep on bashing your gums like some demented 3 year old?

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Maroon tinted glasses,

25/06/2008 11:59:22
YOUUUUU HOOOOOO TIMMY

What is your point and what do you hope to gain?

if you wont give responses to peoples questioning of you how can you really expect then not to take the flak?
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Ayrshire Jambo,

25/06/2008 12:01:28
# 92 TT


Totally uninterested in your slavers and questions. I made an observation which may, or may not, illicit a response from HOM supporters. Based on your incessant, tedious ramblings - I am completely uninterested in any comment you want to make. You bring nothing constructive to this forum. Go away.
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Maroon tinted glasses,

25/06/2008 12:07:21
Can anyone else hear the tumbleweed blowing past timmys PC, ask a question and off he goes
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Maroon tinted glasses,

25/06/2008 12:13:36
Timmy, i (as like most) have responded to your questions with the information we have and can do no more.

You still seem to be going on about the arbroath thing though, where does it actually say the cash given to hearts was a transfer fee??

Why would romanov want to run hearts down?
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victorian of gorgie ,

25/06/2008 12:15:34
tommytommy, in the remote likelihood that you are still wondering why people detest you, here's my explanation.

you are a thoroughly dishonest person.

most people tend to dislike dishonest people.

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LionheartFodithman,

25/06/2008 12:22:55
#101 T yawn T

I posted this specially for you the other day but you obviously never got round to reading it.
It tells you all you need to know in an easy format that a reasonably balanced 10 year old could understand and it answers more questions than you will ever find on these boards.

http://www.football-finances.org.uk/

Hopefully you will be intellegent enough to understand what is being factually written.
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SouthSideHibs,

25/06/2008 12:24:45
#42 VB; still living in the past. Look to the future, and be afraid, be very afraid.
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G,

dundy 25/06/2008 12:25:36
"Frail in charge!!"
Best joke so far.....
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Daillyman,

25/06/2008 12:29:50
The more things change the more they stay the same for HMFC.
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Maroon tinted glasses,

25/06/2008 12:34:10
103 timmy,

I will apologise when i feel i need to but as posted previously you only respond to the questions you want.

If the accounts show the gordon money and the cash from the other transfers then the debt will be getting reduced and in turn if VR then bu66ers off hearts will be more of a sellable product. If not then things will start to happen.

What is your point and what do you hope to gain??
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victorian of gorgie ,

25/06/2008 12:38:42
#110 MTG, you simply wont get satisfactory answers mate. he's got his agenda and he's not honest enough to admit it.

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I.J,

The Diggers 25/06/2008 12:40:32
TommyTommy, let's talk openly and honestly about a subject you'll know all about - the transfer of Dougie Hall to Alloa from Cowdenbeath.

It was dodgy and your chairman is crooked. My evidence?

Because I say so.

Nyer nyer nyer nyer.
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victorian of gorgie ,

25/06/2008 12:41:47
#112, you're right and he knows you are.

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Roscoe P Coltrane,

25/06/2008 13:07:29
Timmy, you hypocritical bag of wind.

You are in NO position to bleat about freedom of speech and you know it. You are a no-mark who is only here to wind people up and then act all aggreived when they get wound up. That is called bullying, an act generally carried out by the inadequate, who wish to cover up their inadequacies with bluster.

As soon as you start treating people with a modicum of respect I'm sure you'll start to see the same in return. Treat people like imbeciles, condescend them and refuse to answer reasonable questions whilst harranguing others for being unable to answer unanswerable questions (and just ignoring the answers to those that can be answered and asking exactly the same question again as if the original answer never happened), people will return the same attitude to you. "Do unto others as you would have them do to you" or whatever the exact quote is.

That's a fairly good life lesson by the way, make sure you remember it when you finish school and enter the grownup world. My three-year-old nephew has more self-awareness than you.

Watch this comment disappear within 10 minutes as I dared to suggest that TT isn't perfect!
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

25/06/2008 13:09:11
Ah, I love the smell of BS removal in the afternoon.....

Nice one Mod.
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Salvatori,

25/06/2008 13:24:25
"They will at least have the comfort of familiar faces on the training field when they begin their warm-up for the new campaign"

... and hence into the comfort zone they slip. If anything a good coach is needed just to kick some of these guys backsides right out of it.
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Jim Baxter,

Alicante 25/06/2008 14:27:40
I have been a fan of Hearts for more than 50 years and I have never seen them in the state they are in now. Romanov is a lying shi++. Since he took over he has been telling fans we are getting this and that. Well I will tell you now we will be lucky if we stay up next season. No Manager to plan tactics, Frail nice fellow so I am told but he has not got what it take to get Hearts up the table. the strikers we have are total mince or on the young side and lacking experience. Romanov bought Nade as good as a chocolate fireguard. Yes I am sorry to say WE are the JOKE team of the SPL: Thanks to Romanov,New Stand forget it its all dream.
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Anotherwonderer,

25/06/2008 14:46:02
I agree with Tommy.
People ask him questions.
He answers politely and he gets abuse.
He gets attacked for not answering questions and attacked for answering them.He gets told to go away and he is berated for not being there.
He gets criticised for supposedly breaching forum etiquette yet he gets his posts deleted by people who run from his ideas.

What is going on at Hearts.

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Roscoe P Coltrane,

25/06/2008 15:17:06
118 - anotherwonderer.

I'll answer this as politely as I can seeing as TinyTimmy has morphed into you now, and I wouldn't want to upset you again you poor wee soul.

People ask him questions. because he posts insults and potentially libellous allegations as FACT, and people quite rightly ask where he gets these FACTS from.

He answers politely and he gets abuse. Incorrect. Either he completely disregards the question and doesn't reply or he starts insulting people.

He gets attacked for not answering questions and attacked for answering them. Not true. He's never yet provided a straight answer to one single question he's been asked.

He gets told to go away and he is berated for not being there. Sorry, that doesn't even make sense.

He gets criticised for supposedly breaching forum etiquette yet he gets his posts deleted by people who run from his ideas. Nobody is "running from his ideas" as they are the half-formed ideas of somebody who, as has been proved by his complete refusal to ever back any of them up with evidence (as opposed to further unrelated half-formed ideas), doesn't have the first clue what he is talking about. The only people who can delete posts are the moderators, who will only do so if there is something wrong with the post, such as insulting people and generally being the dictionary definition of the word hypocrite.

Please at least try Tommy, this one's completely obvious.


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Jim Baxter,

Alicante 25/06/2008 16:46:29
99 tommytommy,what you are saying certainly does not surprise me, how true I cannot say but after what Romanov said he was going to do for Hearts I quite beleave it. As far as I am concerned Romanov has little or no interest in the Hearts, if he had we wouldnt be in the position we are in now.Anyone of our fans that beleaves in him most certainly has his head well stuck in the sand.The Season ticket holders have been conned no doubt about that.They were expecting a clear out of the wasters and new players brought in plus a new Manager certainly NOT FRAIL incharge again.
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

25/06/2008 17:13:22
Who's Robbie?

Conflict of interests in the Bednar transfer. Fact - No, your opinion, not fact.

Failure to reply to a simple question at the AGM about unaccounted registration fees. Fact again - which has been explained to you. Rodney is frickin' clueless.

Unaccounted for debt. Fact again Robbie - no it's not. All debt in the most recent set of accounts was accounted for and Audited. Any further will be shown ni the next set of accounts.

Cant pay debts to local businesses.Fasct again Robbie. Not CAN'T, won't. Bad PR in my opinion but common practice nonetheless.

Wont pay Arbroath their money. Fact Robert. Not fact - don't have to pay Arbroath anything (as the player was never sold and the money was a sell-on clause) but yet have still offered to pay something.

The manager saga. Fact Robbie. And your point is?

Fans instructed to shut up.Fact again. By who, when? Not fact.

Responses confirming facts deleted .Fact Robbie. Wrong, this post here is the extent of your "Facts" - you just keep repeating the same rumours over and over and over and over and over and over and over again - that doesn't actually make them facts you know.

Missing owner.? No thats incorrect too. What's incorrect? Jeezo, you can't even argue with yourself.

Provide some EVIDENCE (i.e. proof i.e. something that actually shows something happened - look up Wikipedia if you want any more definitions) of one thing you've said above and I'll shut up.

But you won't because you can't, and you'll just ignore the question again. Because you are a MORON.

How long before this post is removed by the champion of free speech then?
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Jambo-ree,

25/06/2008 18:49:46
#99 - So what's your point? If we all say we agree with you, then what? Does it mean you'll go away? Or at least drop the subjects? Will you answer these questions?
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Jambo-ree,

25/06/2008 20:28:01
#106 Instead of having a wee conversation with your alter ego, why not give direct answers my questions in #102?

But understand this - if there is any uprising in future then it will have come from us Jambos and will have absolutely zero, zilch, nowt to do with your haverings.
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kiwidoug,

22 In A Row 25/06/2008 22:16:03
96. I understand your frustration but Romanov did give us something to live for before he went mad.

What really frustrates me is having a so-called Chairman who never opens his mouth. That really does tell you everything and it makes us a laughing stock.

The sooner the whole lot of them head back to Kaunus the better. I'd rather we were in Division 3 than have to put up with this any more.
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