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Hearts under Ritchie's rule at training



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Published Date: 01 July 2008
By Darren Johnstone
HEARTS fitness coach Tam Ritchie oversaw the club's pre-season training yesterday in the absence of a qualified football coach.
Ritchie – a former Scottish 800 metres champion – was left in control of the first-team players, with the help of sports scientist Andy Murray, at the club's Riccarton training complex. There was no sign of sport director Anatoly Korobochka, who was thought to be at Sunday's European Championship final, while interim head coach Stevie Frail remains on gardening leave.

The squad returned to the training pitches yesterday after taking part in fitness tests last week. Ritchie will continue to put the players through training drills designed at improving their fitness, while majority shareholder Vladimir Romanov continues his protracted search for a new manager.

Meanwhile, Hearts captain Christophe Berra is eager to see a new manager put in place at Tynecastle to allow the club to move forward.

He said: "Hopefully we will get a manager in soon and he can bring players in and influence his style on the team."



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  • Last Updated: 30 June 2008 11:23 PM
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  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
1

Silence of the Yams,

01/07/2008 01:03:41
Yep, Ritchie's twenty stretch on deathrow should come in handy at doomed Tynie!
2

bring them on,

01/07/2008 02:45:45
They would have been working on their sprinting rather than ball skills, I assume.

Oh, the value of a coaching qualification...
3

BRUHibs,

01/07/2008 07:11:54
Could have been big Tam fi Wallyford miners club though.
4

Denis Law,

Kaunas 01/07/2008 07:32:30

I have question for Hearts supporter.

What is name of exercise when player carry another player on back when running up pitch?
5

BRUHibs,

01/07/2008 07:35:08
The Lithuanian donkey?
6

Beefy Bovril,

01/07/2008 07:47:53
The way the list of Hearts recent 'managers/head coach/whipping boys' (*delete as neccessary) reads Romanov is due to be back in charge for the start of the season(Again!!!!!!)
7

samcdonald22,

jambo land 01/07/2008 07:49:47
Come the 08 August at 3pm,11 Hearts Players will take to the field. Thats for certain...Despite all the turmoil, we will beat Motherwell. simple. and as for the fester road squad...not worth a mention
8

..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

01/07/2008 08:04:09
#7 samcdonald22 Fairyland

Yeah, yeah, yeah...and that'll make it all OK then Eh?
First step to winning the league, CL, world class stars, new manager,no debt, etc etc
.........You know, ...I had a mate who drank like you at one time.......he became a HUMP too, Eh VIC??
9

Denis Law,

Kaunas 01/07/2008 08:07:09

I think new coach Ritchie will have qualification.

This is good news for Hearts. They have at last a coach for first team with proper qualification. They will now be good to enter the League of Champions.
10

the west end general,

god's country 01/07/2008 08:19:53
we will have a manager in this week - should you guys not be more bothered about your game on Sunday? after all your record in the Intoto kitchens cup is terrible but at least your signings from Gretna have some euro experience.
11

Jambo-ree,

01/07/2008 08:24:23
# Most of above - Confuscious he say "If man cannot think of anything sensible to say then man should keep gub shut and avoid losing face."
12

Indy Rep Kid,

01/07/2008 08:41:40
#10 I doubt many of them even remember they have a European tie this weekend.

Unless it's mentioned on kickback, of course.

'mon the Elfs!!
13

Indy Rep Kid,

01/07/2008 08:48:16
#7

"Come the 08 August at 3pm,11 Hearts Players will take to the field. Thats for certain...Despite all the turmoil, we will beat Motherwell. simple. and as for the fester road squad...not worth a mention"

If 11 Hearts players take the field on August 8th then I would fully expect them to win, considering the game is on the 9th.
14

Vincent Vega,

01/07/2008 08:49:27
#10 & 11

Don't you worry guys we know we have a big game this weekend and have been preparing for it and will be ready. I'm sure Mixu will have them fit and will pick the right team for the job (that would be a novelty for Hearts). Mind you it will be tough as by all accounts Elfsborg are not a bad side and will be match fit.

Any way there is always plenty time left to come on here and have a laugh at Hearts expense.
15

Indy Rep Kid,

01/07/2008 08:59:52
#14

I'm sure Mixu will pick the right team.

Or he may persist with O'Brien and Gattheueueueuesi.

16

Vincent Vega,

01/07/2008 09:05:06
#15

Noooooooooooooooooooooo Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!
17

victorian of gorgie ,

01/07/2008 09:10:07
the brain cell called gibby 'the hibby' gladstone that always phones in to the daily ranker hotline is highly indicitive of many a hobo these days.

today's little gem... "come on hearts, let's get rid of this mug romanov".

well thank you gibby for that innovative, detailed plan of action. what a genius.

even the daily ranker boy took the **** out of you for that priceless little offering of advice.

18

Indy Rep Kid,

01/07/2008 09:14:35
#17

Inspiring advice.

I'll get the BBQ fired up!
19

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Indy Rep Kid,

01/07/2008 09:18:17
#19 Don't worry, Kenny Richey will have 'em fired up.
21

victorian of gorgie ,

01/07/2008 09:21:40
#18 irk, good man. i'll go back in time to when herds of millions of bison roamed the plains of north america and bring them back to sell as our wares.

should be a mighty sausage sizzle.

22

Lenny,

01/07/2008 09:22:10
Vic & IRK

Come on chaps, no need to take the hurt you are feeling at your lil' club out on the Hibs fans. Lets face it, your fitness coach is taking pre-season training and you havnt had a real manager for about 6 months. Surely you expect comments? I'm pretty certain a few Jambo's would have things to say if it was the other way round.
23

Bigwull,

edinburgh 01/07/2008 09:25:10
meanwile everything is rosy at fester road, aye right, worry about yer own team hobos
24

huggs,

01/07/2008 09:27:51
#19 Explain you monkey how Hearts have went from bad to worse between yesterday and today?
Or are you just doing your usual and typing anything just to try and mock Hearts
Grade 1 clown i expect your other half to be on in a minute
Have you even read any Hibs stories this week?
25

Vincent Vega,

01/07/2008 09:29:28
#23

Thing are not perfect I will agree, need some new players for one thing.

However, in comparison to Hearts, things are absolutely wonderful at ER.
26

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01/07/2008 09:30:11
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Vincent Vega,

01/07/2008 09:30:48
By the way just heard that Hearts have released 24 year-old Chile striker Mauricio Pinilla.

Don't know any more however, anyone heard the full story.
28

Indy Rep Kid,

01/07/2008 09:30:52
#22

Lenny, your comments are always welcome.
29

..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

01/07/2008 09:31:31
#13 IRK

Oh...Ya beauty.
..what a put-down for that sanctimonious git !!
....and welcome...even from you IRK !!!
30

petegeneva,

geneva 01/07/2008 09:33:35
I think I preferred the old days. When you didn't care about where the team trained, whether they trained, who trained them, how much the training pitches were worth.
All that mattered was what went on on the pitch at 3pm on a saturday.
And you got surprised when you opened up the Evening News to read that you had signed a player or (more likely for us Hibbies) had lost a player.
Now the fans just know too much (or think they do) about the club's finances, the transfer targets, the whole back office.
It used to be "we're gonna gub you in the derby next week" but now it's "our debt is less than yours and we've got a manager and you huvnae and sure we're a selling club but at least we've got players that other clubs want..."
Sheesh I'm probably sounding like a pensioner.
Anyway, do dugs still sometimes run onto the pitch like they always seemed to do in the sixties?
31

huggs,

01/07/2008 09:34:31
Speak of the devil
Thats the double act on now Tartan and Dublin biggest plicks to ever post on here
32

Lenny,

01/07/2008 09:38:30
IRK

Thank you kind sir. I am going to make a bold prediction and say that you will get your manager this week.

33

huggs,

01/07/2008 09:39:57
Its on the Hearts site Panilla has been released
34

Denis Law,

Kaunas 01/07/2008 09:43:17

So, Pinella has left because he did not win race of eggs with spoons.

This will mean good striker pair of Nade and Elliot. There will be many goals for Hearts in new season I think.
35

victorian of gorgie ,

01/07/2008 09:45:21
pinilla has indeed been released.

no doubt this will a source of much amusement to the verdant vultures, evn though they squawk on about huge wage bills, unsustainable debts, bonkers players.

no, pinilla leaving wont be seen as a remedy so some or all of these ills, it will be seen as further evidence of 'asset stripping' or 'rats deserting the sinking sub', or some other weird and wonderful theory.

36

huggs,

01/07/2008 09:45:37
#26 Where do you get 8 million from?
Do you just pick numbers out of your toy box in the morning and letters from your cereal box?
37

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01/07/2008 09:45:44
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..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

01/07/2008 09:45:52
#31 HUGGS

Huggsa HUMP.......HEE HAWW MUCHACHO,.....HEE HAWW!!!
(Everybody HUMPS Hearts)
39

Roscoe P Coltrane,

01/07/2008 09:46:46
Nice to see the poison dwarf continue with his policy of making sure we all know what's going on....

OK the guy was a bit of a waster but we kept him on this long, what's another bleedin' year to give him a decent chance? How about trying to get a few quid for him?

Vlad is going slowly more and more mad I reckon...
40

huggs,

01/07/2008 09:50:13
#38 We will see things not looking to great down your way just now are they?
Not that i ever look at a hibs story never mind spending most of my day on a hibs thread
Sad Sad boy
41

We love fitba,

google! 01/07/2008 09:51:25
Victorian, you really are pathetic.

Another humiliation for Hearts, and your reaction? "Oh, come on everybody, let's draw attention to this poster, he's a hobo, let's humiliate him".

Your bullying, hectoring attitude might make you pleased with yourself but it truly shows how weak you are. Weak and pathetic in front of an adversary who's got you well and truly by the crown jewels.

For the decent Hearts fans out there who genuinely care for their club - I really hope you ignore no-hopers like this and start doing something about ousting Romanov.
42

victorian of gorgie ,

01/07/2008 09:53:43
#41, what are you on about? what hobo are you talking about? what bullying?

43

Roscoe P Coltrane,

01/07/2008 09:53:49
41 - I really hope you bug*er off and mind your own business, you sanctimonious plick.

There's a big difference between "bullying, hectoring" and trying to have a decent conversation whilst trying to stop certain retards ruining everything by dribbling over the thread.

44

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01/07/2008 09:53:55
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Denis Law,

Kaunas 01/07/2008 09:54:46

Today I am told there is race where players jump in bags that were once for coal.

My first question is, what is name of this race please?

And also, are bags cleaned before players jump in them?
46

huggs,

01/07/2008 09:55:32
#41 Any suggestions on the ousting of Romanov then ?
47

Lenny,

01/07/2008 09:57:10
Serious question for the Jambo's. I thought that Panilla had signed a 3 year contract not long ago?
48

victorian of gorgie ,

01/07/2008 09:57:23
#46 huggs, no there wont be. they think it's enough to say "oust romanov" and they can claim to be the kind, thoughtful, sympathetic, true fan of football.

makes them feel good about themselves, i think.

49

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01/07/2008 09:59:32
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We love fitba,

google! 01/07/2008 09:59:41
#42 I was referring to your post #17... I now see it was a phone-in caller you were directing your ire at, rather than a poster, which is even more weird.

#43 Decent Conversation? Don't make me laugh... point-scoring and berating anyone with a different view is the usual order of the day on here. There are the obvious trolls who annoy us all, but even without them there would be no decent debate.

51

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01/07/2008 10:04:26
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petegeneva,

geneva 01/07/2008 10:04:34
#47 wikipedia spake thusly:
""On 6th May 2008, it was reported in The Edinburgh Evening News, that Pinilla has signed a three year extension to his Hearts contract, which would keep him at Tyncastele until 2011 thus buying out his contract with Inter Millan.
On the 1st July, it was revealed on the Hearts website, that they had realesed Pinilla from his contract.
""
So, Hertz've probably bought him out of that contract and let him go.
Shame really since Hearts never lost a game in which he scored. In fact, both games.
53

huggs,

01/07/2008 10:05:09
#50 I will ask again about suggestions to oust Romanov?
54

Little Bleeder,

01/07/2008 10:06:06
_45_

Sack

Sometimes
55

Roscoe P Coltrane,

01/07/2008 10:06:24
50 - from what I can see (and certainly describes my own position) it's got absolutely f*ck all to do with attacking people with a different opinion, and a lot to do with berating ar$eholes.

It's all fine and well having a different opinion (the world would really be a dull place if we all thought the same) but there's no need for people to be w*nkers about it, as an awful lot of gloating little kids are on here. I think you'll find Vic, like most of the less retarded on here, gives out an awful lot less than he gets.
56

huggs,

01/07/2008 10:07:08
#51 We are in the same boat as yesterday no worse off
In fact if anything better off we just dropped 10k a week on the wage bill and seen as how you go on about our finances all the time does that not make sense?
57

victorian of gorgie ,

01/07/2008 10:07:30
#50, so tell me why i shouldn't direct "my ire" at whoever i damn well like then.

if people are going to make half-assed, hair-brained remarks, why the hell should we not have the right to reply?

#43 roscoe is spot on, you're a sanctimonious half-wit.

58

Dave Shaw,

01/07/2008 10:08:08
I need a stronger course of anti-depressants.

Yesterday we get told Chervencov is back at the helm and it's 6 months to the day since we were told of a British style manager.

What a joke.
59

huggs,

01/07/2008 10:08:55
#51 2,3 and 4 are the same point
And your first point is a plus for us so i dont really see where you are going with this,do you?
60

..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

01/07/2008 10:10:08
#35 VICTORIAN OF GORGIE

That'll be the Pinilla that you pronounced upon on 16/10/07 then VIC......saying "I've seen this guy and he's the real deal...just wait till he shows you Hibees in the derby"
Embarrased VIC......or has that famous memeory of yours failed you again at the convenient moment, Eh??
"From memories to mammaries"...A Tynie tale.
HEE HAWW VIC,....HEE HAWW!!!
(Everybody HUMPS Hearts)
61

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01/07/2008 10:12:29
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..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

01/07/2008 10:12:37
#57 VIC

........so you DO believe in "free speech" then VIC..or is that reserved ESPECIALLY and SOLELY for you?
See HUMPS = See DOUBLE STANDARDS
(Everybody HUMPS Hearts)
63

Roscoe P Coltrane,

01/07/2008 10:12:51
50 We Love Fitba - there you go, have a look at post #60 from the ever-erudite Kylie.

Is that somebody expressing a difference of opinion in a balanced way, or is it a personal attack by some sad-sack with issues?
64

John south of Soutra,

01/07/2008 10:15:22
Never mind, I heard on the radio this morning that there is an Angel flying in to rescue Hearts this week, the same Angel who took them to 2nd bottom of the league last season before they got rid of him
65

Roscoe P Coltrane,

01/07/2008 10:15:28
I'd rather be foaming at the mouth than missing in the head Sergei.

I'm not part of any 'band of followers' though (no offence meant Vic), I just don't like ar$eholes. If you're allowed your opinion, everybody else is allowed theirs. And in my opinion you need to get a life.

And Rod Petrie eats babies. And you live in Lithuania, and your name really is Sergei and not Senga.
66

victorian of gorgie ,

01/07/2008 10:16:11
#62 roscoe, it's a waste of time mate. these clowns and maniacs cannot be reasoned with.

67

LionheartFodithman,

01/07/2008 10:18:34
Fabulous news that Panilla has gone.
Three Quarters of a million per year in dosh saved in one fowl swoop.

I expect that to be the budget for the new manager.

68

Roscoe P Coltrane,

01/07/2008 10:20:13
#66 - I know but I can't stop it!

I should really just feel sorry for them, it's a bit like kicking a puppy at times...........
69

..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

01/07/2008 10:20:41
#66 VICTORIAN OF GORGIE

......and a simple search reveals that you were saying similar things a year ago about other jambos....long before the SPL Team came along.........SO....care to explain quite why you've got form for these kindsa comments then VIC??....Double Standards again izzit?
Want me to getcha some actual quotesfrom those days?Eh?
..and to think you USED to be a contender, Eh Muchacho?
(Everybody HUMPS Hearts
70

..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

01/07/2008 10:22:30
#68 ROSCOE

Has your religious advisor not had a word with you about the cybercompany you keep???........
.........you know, the ones that USED to be contenders, Eh Muchacho?
(Everybody HUMPS Hearts)
71

..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

01/07/2008 10:24:45
#41 WE LOVE FITBA'

Well said Sir.
Another one got you well sussed then Eh VIC??
72

Denis Law,

Kaunas 01/07/2008 10:26:22

Never mind my Hearts friends.

The money saved from wages of player Pinella can be used to finish web site for Ukio Bankas branch of Edinburgh.

http://www.ukiobank.co.uk/

How is business of new branch? You all have account with new bank I hope?
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petegeneva,

geneva 01/07/2008 10:29:05
#67 #56
Wait. So you think Pinilla just left? Without Hearts having to pay something to him to buy out his contract?

Here's a genuine question to you. Let's say you had a contract with an employer paying you 10k per week. That employer wishes to end that contract. How much would you take from that employer such that you would terminate the contract?

Can't wait for your answers.
And to be fair, here's my answer: 800k, half of what I would have earned just sitting on my butt for the next 3 years. (Which is probably what Pinilla would have done anyway).
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..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

01/07/2008 10:29:38
#63 ROSCOE
re First line your post #43
Perhaps you'd like to enlighten us re your "balanced" and considered comments to others freely expressing opinions.
See HUMPS = See DOUBLE STANDARDS, Eh Roscoe??
(Everybody HUMPS Hearts)
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..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

01/07/2008 10:35:10
#40 HUGGS

Do try and keep up Huggsy......you must be the only HUMP on the planet ( AAaagghh......hold that thought just for a moment, Eh Muchachos)to think I'm a Hibby
Sad Sad Boy,......Eh Muchacho??
(Everybody HUMPS Hearts)
77

huggs,

01/07/2008 10:38:33
#74 You raelly reckon Romanov paid him to leave?
If anything i would suggest it would be the other way round he has bought himself out
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huggs,

01/07/2008 10:40:08
#76 Dont really care what you are to be honest i only know your a clown with a sad life that will do for now
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Indy Rep Kid,

01/07/2008 10:43:27
#76

Nah, you're just a bottler.

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petegeneva,

geneva 01/07/2008 10:45:12
#77 you know, I didn't think of that.
Instead of sitting at Tynie for 3 years pulling in one and a half million for doing freak-all he'd actually pay to get out of such a slave-labour contract.
OK, then, another couple of questions: why would Pinilla have done that? And how much do you think he paid Hertz to allow him to leave?
This is a great game, no?
82

huggs,

01/07/2008 10:49:02
#81 Panilla does not like Edinburgh so he wants out.
There is no doubting his skill and i can only assume he has other offers in sunnier climes all speculation i admit,although i reckon he will be signed by someone in the near future
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

01/07/2008 10:49:32
Tart An' Pimp In 'Ell -

Two points - what do you call it when somebody with double standards accuses somebody else of double standards? You're the biggest hypocrite on here, taking the HUMP if anybody says anything nasty about poor wittle woo but being on perma-rage insult mode yourself.

Secondly - my religous adviser? IMO all religion is a crutch for the mentally weak, so I don't have a religious adviser.
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We love fitba,

google! 01/07/2008 10:52:45
#63 Roscoe,

Tartan Pimpernel / Riley / Muchacho merchant / whoever is a wind up and a bore. I really have no idea what he's going on about, only that he's been going on about it for a very very long time.

THAT is not what I'm talking about. What I am talking about is the absolute lack of decent debate between Hearts supporters on here.

2 years ago, someone said "I don't trust Vlad" and you all attacked them. 1 year ago someone said "I don't like the direction we're going in" and you all attacked them. Even earlier this year people expressed serious, very valid concerns about the proposed new stand at Tynie, and Vic and others laid into them with venom.

Now, someone says "Get Romanov out" and you scoff and belittle them.

No wonder you're in trouble.

Before you ask, "How do we get Romanov out then?", it's only worth contributing to a discussion if you think other people will listen. And I think there's still a sizeable number of Hearts supporters who refuse to listen to the increasingly loud alarm bells going off in every direction.
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Denis Law,

Kaunas 01/07/2008 10:53:32

Maybe because Pinella has saved Hearts much money, part of new stand can be named after him?

There will be section called the Pinella Seats. They are very expensive to buy and no one turns up to sit in them.
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huggs,

01/07/2008 10:56:36
#84 I think the vast amount of Hearts fans have now had enough of Vlad but with the debt being bigger than our assetts the question is still how we could get him out?
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petegeneva,

geneva 01/07/2008 10:57:16
#85 there's an own goal. How long before some Yam mentions a certain semi-final I wonder... :-)
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

01/07/2008 10:57:46
#84 - that's a very broad generalisation and you know it.

Personally haven't trusted the wee sh*te since the day Burley was binned. But when everybody is under attack all day, every day (and not just from the really top-class numptys, from almost everybody), can you understand why some get a wee bit defensive?

Nobody in their right mind believes all is well at Tynie at the moment. Nobody. It's just that some like to hold on to a tiny glimmer of hope that it's not perhaps as bad as the world and his pretend journalist say so.

And by the way, validity is binary - something is either valid or it is not, you can't have degrees of validity.
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wee162,

Sunny Leith 01/07/2008 10:58:19
#77
And Jambos have the temerity to call Hibbies junkies! You have got to have a fairly serious crack habit to think that someone who has just been given a new contract on £12k a week, and who has played 400 minutes of football in the last 2 years for the club that gave him it, is going to pay to get out of that contract! Planet Jamtard, where all your fantasies are real (or at least you think so!).

We Own The Capital.
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Chas Niceass,

01/07/2008 11:06:18
Its pretty difficult to ascertain what is fact and what is not at the minute.
The only thing that is certain is that we are being run like an amateur club.
This shoddy treatment must stop, but of course it cant and it wont, because its a dictatorship.
I long for the day someone comes up with a sensible post as to how this can be breached, but instead its the usual dross, childish wind ups and mind numbing denial, its all going to be ok.
The return of Cervenkov after all that happened last time round and the Jan 1st statement, still no manager and still trying to sell the Litharus project, all adds up to farce.
This club is heading for the 1st Division and fast, no pampered professional player would ever put up with this.
Oh except for Pinilla, take the money and then run just before time for pre season.
Should have been shot of this waster like I said 20 months ago.
91

We love fitba,

google! 01/07/2008 11:18:18
#88 Roscoe,

"Under attack every day". Well, yes you are, but as I said, the real attack to Hearts is coming from the top.

Thanks for picking me up on my grammar though ;-)

#84 Huggs,

Well, since you've asked twice... my genuine feeling (I am not a Jambo but I do not wish to see Hearts go bust) is that the best way forward is to force Hearts into administration. The fans could probably do this by squeezing the cash flow into the club.

Of course, this is hardly a pain-free solution. But what other options remain on the table? Sure as night follows day, Vlad is killing you. Time to make a stand.
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We love fitba,

google! 01/07/2008 11:26:36
By way of illustration, on the other thread I see Victorian is up to his usual:


"anyway, about your call for hearts fans to "stand up now" and "do something" (x2).

has it not crossed your mind that hearts fans have actually thought about the possible things that they can do? believe it not not, us hearts fans have thought about this and suggested all feasible routes in order to get romanov to do the right thing by hearts and nobody has yet come up with a radical plan that would somehow make romanov change his ways."

Not only is this patronising, it rather misses the point. No point in getting Romanov to change his ways, Vic. It's far too late for that. It's time to get him out. Haven't put enough thought into that one, have we?
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MarkJ,

01/07/2008 11:28:24
Rumours and fantasy don't help but the truly worrying thing to me is the German coach's diplomatic run through of the Romanov master plan.....it's got 'make money' written all over it in principle but without quality goods to sell it's doomed to failure....
94

Bigwull,

edinburgh 01/07/2008 11:31:16
92 Do you have a spare £50 million?
95

victorian of gorgie ,

01/07/2008 11:32:05
#84, you're missing the point in a big big way i'm afraid.

there is nothing wrong whatsoever with people debating whatever they like and taking differing views to others, it's a complete myth that's been started that certain people don't tolerate other opinions.

the point here is that we are subjected to a constant barrage of remarks like "get rid of vlad" or "it's about time you forced vlad out".

sorry but that isn't debate, or genuine concern, or even worthwhile.

WE KNOW that something should be done, if it could be done.

to have any credibility, people need to put forward actual, meaningful ideas as to HOW types of action can be carried out.

saying "get vlad out" is like saying to a man trapped at the bottom of a 20 foot pit full of vipers with no way of getting himself out.... "if i were you mate, i would get myself out of that pit".

i will reiterate yet again, there are no leaders, no followers, no gangs, only individuals.
96

DalryJambo,

Edinburgh 01/07/2008 11:32:37
#81

What’s to say his recently signed contract didn't have a clause stating he needed to obtain certain fitness levels before the beginning of pre-season or the contract would be ripped up?

All manner of targets can be set ie body fat levels, endurance, speed and on returning from his personal preseason he failed to meet the required standards and the contract was cancelled.

Can’t say this for sure but it is just as likely as your ‘speculation’.
97

wee162,

Sunny Leith 01/07/2008 11:33:56
#91
The man here is speaking truth, but getting Hearts into administration rather than just getting shut down would prove to be almost impossible unless UKIO/ UBIG are having massive financial/ cashflow problems. If Hearts go into administration an independent person would be introduced and all creditors would receive however much could be squeezed out of the club, and it would be an equal percentage. There's no benefit in Hearts going into administration for Romanov or his businesses.

My best guess atm is that Hearts will do anything to avoid going into administration, until they have managed to clear the vast majority of the UKIO debt owed (around £19m iirc?). Then the club can, and probably will, go into administration and the other creditors will receive pennies in the pound with every saleable asset punted. If I was a Jambo I'd be busy trying to raise money to make sure the name of the club, and the place in the league which would go along with it goes to the fans who'll maybe look after it with a lot more care and attention than the previous owners. You can start again with a clean slate. Share Almondvale until you have raised enough money to buy land and start building your own stadium.

Sitting still, praying, and hoping things will work out better under Romanov has hardly been a succesful strategy up till now, yet it still seems as though that's all the vast majority of them are still doing.

We Own The Capital
98

We love fitba,

google! 01/07/2008 11:34:50
#94 Really?
99

petegeneva,

geneva 01/07/2008 11:42:30
96 thanks for that reasoned riposte - I hadn't thought of that.
Could also explain why Nade has gone MIA, maybe he'll come back a sleek race-horse.
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victorian of gorgie ,

01/07/2008 11:45:36
#92, yes all very well i' sure, but HOW do you suggest it can be done?????????????????????

101

wee162,

Sunny Leith 01/07/2008 11:46:56
#96
Well let's say the reason someone wouldn't sign a contract like that would be because something as simple as a pulled hamstring would invalidate their contract and cost them a couple of million quid in wages. But you're right, it is all speculation. Some of the speculation is far more credible though...
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

01/07/2008 11:50:36
Pete, I think there's more chance of me buying out Vlad's share!

#91 wlf - and as we're under attack from the top, we don't need the world and his dug doing it at the same time too. And therefore reserve the right to repel boarders from the submarine!

Got nothing against you personally, but don't you think that if you had to put up with the garbage we do just to try and read the latest news from Easter Road (as your club had decided in their wisdom not to tell anybody anything) that you might get a bit defensive if the threads were infested with Yams (as opposed to Jambos) who kept just calling you stupid because you couldn't buy the stadium and then stating the blindingly obvious all the time and expecting to be lauded for it?

Just a thought.
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DalryJambo,

Edinburgh 01/07/2008 11:56:18
Nade will be in Greggs or stuck in his yellow lambo....do Greggs do drive-throughs? If they do I think the case is closed.
In fairness I’ve seen him once close up with training gear on and he didn’t look fat, just solid. But when he stands next to players like Elliot he looks big.
104

We love fitba,

google! 01/07/2008 11:57:08
#102 Roscoe,

I think it was blindingly obvious that Vlad saw Hearts as a way to make money, and nothing else.

It's been very frustrating waiting for the penny to drop, I agree! I think, under the circumstances, the Scotsman has remained relatively favourable towards MR Romanov.
105

wee162,

Sunny Leith 01/07/2008 12:00:41
#102
The problem is that The Scotsman site is used as a de facto forum rather than a blog space by the users (at least on the football stories). It hasn't been moderated properly since a couple of months after the ability to comment on stories was introduced. IMO comments should be strictly limited to the article in question and everything else should be deleted.

But while it isn't, you can read the story and then stop before the comments no problem. You don't have to read, or participate, in the comments bit of the article at all. If you choose to do so, letting yourself get wound up seems a bit silly if you don't mind me saying so. Personally if I'm looking for serious debate on Hibs I go nowhere near the Scotsman site, and I've yet to understand why some Jambos think that they have some sort of ownership on who should be posting on stories about their side.
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DalryJambo,

Edinburgh 01/07/2008 12:07:42
I think this would be a special case, due to the fact he was already signed to us (new players would have to pass a medical for a new contract) and his poor fitness in the past, the deal could have been worded to his agent as follows,

“We’re keen to sign him on this improved contract x on the grounds he proves his fitness and passes a medical by date x. If he fails the medical the contract is scrapped.”

For all I know players might have to pass medicals when they sign extended contracts anyway for insurance purposes, but in normal circumstances you would only want to sign players that are fit and have performed well for you in the past. Players can pass medicals with injuries if the clubs medical advisers regard them as non-career threatening ie pulled muscles etc.
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wee162,

Sunny Leith 01/07/2008 12:17:44
#106
Are you actually being serious here, or are you at the complete wind up? You are trying to convince yourself that your ludicrous suggestion of why the contract was terminated is plausible. It's maybe a bit less unlikely than it turning out that Pinilla was employed by Pinochets death squad at the age of two and is actually a wanted war criminal, but not by an awful lot.

The most likely thing is that Hearts having looked at the books have realised they can't afford him, so offered him a deal to terminate his contract for a decent amount of compensation. Then he can find himself a