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Published Date: 21 June 2008
HEARTS owner Vladimir Romanov has decided against reopening talks with Gudjon Thordarson even though Vladimir Weiss looks to have blown his chances of becoming the next Tynecastle head coach.
Romanov is believed to have initiated a new Europe-wide search for a manager but Thordarson is now thought to be off his radar.

The full article contains 58 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 21 June 2008 1:29 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
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Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

Melbourne 21/06/2008 02:46:32
I cant wait to hear what Catholic Jambo has to say about this.
Actually i can...

It's only really more of the same for Hearts fans as insult after insult is thrown their way.

At least the Elliot saga has a ray of light attached.
Well two actually, One you'll get rid of him and two he says he wont be going anywhere till there's a new manager. Lets hope that's not his decision to make and rather it means that the new man will get to choose who stays and who goes at least...

Anyway, i'll be back in a few days, It's just too hard to come on Hearts threads just now and not seem to be gloating...
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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

21/06/2008 04:35:02
#2 Not sure I get your point. What's insulting about this? Romanov has made it hard to get a manager by introducing uncertainty about team selections. That's old news. Apart from that, we want someone who wants to manage Hearts. We could take the easy option tomorrow but I'm encouraged we are looking for the right man. If McGhee hadn't led the club on we'd be further on now, so I fail to see what's insulting about having to start from scratch. It's not like we have our pick of people. In normal jobs, several people are interviewed. What's the big deal?

I'd even be happy with Frail. His record stands comparison with Mixu's at the very least with less managerial experience.
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Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

Melbourne 21/06/2008 05:42:33
#3, GCOWK,
Don't be daft man, just cos I'm a Hibby with an admittedly daft user name doesn't mean I'm talking nonsense.

So, let me get this straight. You think it's acceptable to have no manager and not even anyone lined up, or on the radar after 7 months?
Mark McGhee turned you down so it's ok that you dont have a plan b,c,d,etc. right through till z?

You say you're 'encouraged we are looking for the right man'
I say you missed a word out of that sentence,
'encouraged we are looking for the right YES man' would be much more pertinent.

Other teams dont seem to have the problem of finding the right man for the job, every other team in the world, I'll say that again, THE WORLD, can get a qualified and ambitious manager, yes Mixu is more ambitious than no-one, so for you to say whats the big deal is frankly laughable in its fantasy...
Honestly tell me again it's fine and dandy to be a rudderless ship adrift for 7 months, sorry make that 2 AND A HALF YEARS...

Get a grip man, end of.

P.S. I really truly wasn't going to comment any further on this one but rockets like you need a serious reality check...
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Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

adendum 21/06/2008 05:49:09
Two more stupid things you say...
You dont know what insulting about it? Tell me what is not insulting about treating the supporters of the cleb you own with such disdain that you cannot or will not give them a competent management structure after 2 and a half years of their loyalty, it's a slap in the face to all of you frankly.
'Apart from that we want someone who wants to manage Hearts' Do you hear yourself. You can't seem to find anyone, is that the fans fault? is the teams? is it Edinburgh or Scotlands fault? is it the colour of the strip? or is it the fault of the man who is systyematically pulling the pants down of every single fan of Hearts by ruling your passion as if it were no more important than his favourits subutteo team?

Not Insulting? Oh that i had your thick skin...
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GOA-JAMBO,

Back Hame 21/06/2008 07:01:13
You would expect the Heart of Mdlothian to have made an official statement by now, there are so many different stories in the papers, radio stations all disagree with each other, the Hearts fans are left with no idea as to what is going on, well Mr Ogilvie what is actually happening if anything or are you in the dark too ? We the FANS have a right to know what is going on !!!
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Brian-still-Hearts-mad-after-all-those-years,

sydney 21/06/2008 07:45:17
surely there must be a half-decent manager somewhere who wnats the job? Surely?
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Cammy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 07:45:56
#6 You're spot on with your comment.

It's not as if any of us (Hibs and Hearts)actually believe the media know anything about the current manager status. It's just that they have space to fill and aren't resourceful enough to go and get a proper story.

Hearts could make life for it's fans so much easier by just giving some sort of update. Obviously it might not all be positive news, but with a little spin it would at least let the fans know that the club are progressing this issue in a professional way.

This spat with the Media is understandable given the poor quality of reporting, but it's the fans that suffer. They're made to feel like they are just not important enough to the club.
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Brian-still-Hearts-mad-after-all-those-years,

sydney 21/06/2008 07:46:35
wnats? think I meant wants!
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Jim Baxter,

Alicante. 21/06/2008 08:12:49
No · George I know you have your say but personally I dont blame Mcghee for our problems re a New Manager. We have been waiting more than 6 Months now for one and the fault lies square on the shoulders of one IDIOT and that is Romanov. He has the power to say who comes and who goes, but he takes things far to far. He wants to be owner, trainer,say who is playing and who is not. The man is an idiot when it comes to working with people. Its little wonder no one wants the Managers job.I can see big problems ahead next season.
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Vincent Vega,

21/06/2008 08:28:00
Don't worry Jambo's Malofeev is on the way back, arf arf arf.

From Todays Express

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/49248

Eduard Malofeev – officially the worst Hearts manager in the club’s history – could be back at Tynecastle to supervise pre-season training.

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LionheartFodithman,

21/06/2008 08:34:51
#10 JB

Jeez fella,dont join the ranks of "the wrist slitters".

Unless Vlad churns out some dud from the mecca of football that is Lithuania we should be taking a bit of comfort in the fact that he is taking a bit of time to get the right guy in..
Granted the club is treating its supporters in a disgusting manner with regards the lack of information but i think we are all guilty of giving Vlad grief for spouting too much nonsense to the press,so its hardly suprising we now get nowt.

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scorchio,

West of the Pecos 21/06/2008 08:41:46
I'm taking this (if it's true) as a positive.
I thought the three guys we were linked with were pretty mediocre.
So! if Mr Romanov can set his sights higher, I for one will be delighted.
Problem is... TIME is short.
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Gordon Smiths 364,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 08:54:10
#10
"fault lies square on the shoulders of one IDIOT" Errr, I can think of at least 9000 other ones.
#12
What planet are you from?
"we should be taking a bit of comfort in the fact that he is taking a bit of time to get the right guy in".

you cannot get "the right guy" you cannot get the "wrong guy" you cannot get "any guy".
Listen to your peers, things are bad with no light at the end of the tunnel.
Whats the odds on livingstone FC getting a new manager before you guys? I cannot remember any other club in Scotland, Britain, the World in any league, premier, 1st div, 2nd etc ever having so much trouble getting the "right guy" or any guy, just glad its not my club the world is laughing at.
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Who's it gonna be? ,

21/06/2008 09:04:46
Sports day coming up soon at Gorgie. All the usual festivities including the sack race, three legged race and of course the egg and spoon back due to popular demand.
Free scarves at the gate and T shirts for sale with the slogan 'I trained with the big club for a day'.
Contracts available for those showing aptitude in the wheelbarrow race.
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Vincent Vega,

21/06/2008 09:24:38
Loved this quote from the Express article.

"Icelandic boss Thordarson would remain an option for Romanov if he was prepared to let the Russian banker know his team line-up around 24 hours before kick-off.

However, that is something the Akranes boss will not consider."

Now you know where the problem lies, unbelievable really, which decent manager would work under these conditions?
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LionheartFodithman,

21/06/2008 09:33:36
Mornin JT&T
I am afraid we are at the mercy of the press here mate.
There has NEVER actually been any statements coming out of Tynecastle regarding any manager except MM and with regards MM i think we will find out at the end of next season why he declined an interview.
All the names and stories are pure speculation.

Another point is.
Is there a decent high profile manager out there that wants to run a team in SPL on a limited budget with no European football and a zero chance of competing with the top two.
Perhaps the supporters are setting their sights a tad high.
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Southern Bapist Jambo,

21/06/2008 09:36:57
It is God's will that we do not have a manager yet. Only His wisdom and His alone will decide when the right man is appointed.

On a lighter note I am sure the good Lord will find it in His heart to allow Elliot to leave. But we must pray and believe. Amen.
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Jockbok,

21/06/2008 09:38:00
With the days counting down to the start of training, where are we? No manager, players leaving the club, no leadership and no promises from the owner that he will not continue to intervene. Bad enough, but then there is the debt.

The Scottish footballing press would be going ballistic should this debacle be happening in Glasgow.

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victorian of gorgie ,

21/06/2008 09:58:27
all this talk about 24 hour team vetting deadlines and the return of mad malofeev is all very well but the important question is surely this...

how do the people who write these things know?

answer - they don't, the media know about as much as us hearts fans about the ins and outs of the negotiations which have taken place and any contingency plans which are being considered.... namely diddly squat.

it's also funny how certain people place a lot of faith in tenuous snippets of information when it suits them. take the figure of 9000 season tickets sold for example. when that figure was announced, we were told in no uncertain terms that it was a false figure being put out in order to give people a wee hurry up to go and renew their seats, now it's being bandied about as hard fact by those who seem determined to portray season ticket renewing fans as spineless lemmings who have somehow harmed the club.

not that it ever makes any difference but you can't have it both ways.

perhaps some of the things which are being reported are indeed true or have some basis to them, the point is we don't know at this stage. one thing is for sure though and that is that we still don't have a manager in place and it could take a while. there could be an awful lot more guess work to wade through before then.

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LeGod,

21/06/2008 10:41:21
you are a fool victorian

a sad little blabbermouth, do yourself a favour and just go away and find another hobby......

Hearts fans dont like you, hibs fans dont like you the people who run the forum dont like you, kickback doesn't like you

you are unlikeable.
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Vaders Uncle,

at work covering for colleague 21/06/2008 10:45:56
I am very disapointed at the lack of information coming out from Tynecastle, I know this is possibly that if there is nothing positive to say they will say nothing at all, but as a hearts fan surely someone could just give us some good news.

Very saddened at the article in the express about the possibility that Malofeev (looks like Barney Rubble from the Flintstones) will be at pre season training, a one eyed camel jockey from Uzbekistan could do a better job. No I do not know anyone of that description, just came to me......to much Jack Daniels last night maybe.....

HHGH..WE are the Hearts, we are the Hearts...
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LionheartFodithman,

21/06/2008 10:50:54
#24
Earth is full.

Go home.
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LeGod,

21/06/2008 11:02:51
another one whose comments smack of arseholeism.

I am delighted hearts are in this mess, it's no more than you deserve, sactamonious self righteous morons
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Jim Baxter,

Alicante 21/06/2008 11:31:30
27 LeGod, Can you explain why you are happy Hearts are in a mess,it no more than they deserve. Prior to Romanov Hearts were one of the top Clubs in Scotland and even you should want to see good football played in the SPL every week. I know that Romanov ranted on when he took over. What Hearts were going to win and play in Europe Etc. But I for one am sorry to see such a great SCOTTISH team in this state.
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LionheartFodithman,

21/06/2008 11:31:51
#27
Diarrhea of the mouth.
Constipation of the ideas.

The true trait of a Hobo !
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Maroon tinted glasses,

21/06/2008 11:33:19
Oh gosh another NON STORY regarding the hearts managers position.

I have looked through all the related stories today and the main word being used is "believed" so essentialy no-one has any real concrete info from tynecastle at the moment. As most are aware there is a complete ban on talking with the press at tynecastle and until such words as "confirmed" are used in press reports then all other reports are pure speculation.

After all EVERYHTING the press reports is the truth, isnt it?

its not like the journos are paid to come up with "stories" as they are better to look at than blank pages (well sometimes).

When hearts have something to announce then they will.
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LeGod,

21/06/2008 11:36:11
dear oh dear.

"When hearts have something to announce then they will".

And just what do you expect

a manager
some signings from lithuania
new stand announcement
or

"I have had enough of this garbage, i'm off"
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LeGod,

21/06/2008 11:37:52
29

Nothing to say
nothinig to look forward to
No hope
No job
Flat in Wester Hailes
Benefits
and a wee shot on your mates computer to log on here to feel important

A true trait of a jumbo!
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Maroon tinted glasses,

21/06/2008 11:42:28
31

Dear oh dear

Still obsessed with a team you dont support

Good, at least it keeps you busy.

i suppose if you had the nuts to confirm who you support we could all find fault with them but as you seem to be ashamed to admit who then just keep plugging away in you little fantasy world.

sad really

saddo
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LeGod,

21/06/2008 12:14:42
i think with the user id you can safely assume i am a hibs fan.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 12:36:56
I am no wrist slitter but this is the most cringeworthy and embarassing pre-season I can ever remember and the thought that after 6 months of supposedly looking for a manager we are going to end up with frail and Anatoli again makes me sick to my stomach.

I am all for defending Hearts when some of the rubbish that is regularly posted on here by others comes thick and fast but this IS a disgrace and extremly insulting to the fans.

'Europe wide search'... WTF??? Vlad has decided on the 20th of June that perhaps we need a 'Europe wide search'... Don't make me laugh.

Lionheart, I like many of your posts but seriously mate... c'mon eh?...

What is your take on the fact that every other team in the SPL has no problem getting a manager in but the third biggest both in terms of wages and fan base are unable to find one in 6 months of searching?... You come across as a bright guy to me so you surely cannot believe that people are not being put off what would be a fantastic job by the omnipresent threat of an unacceptable level of interferance from Vlad or as i believe now his 'associates'

Why are we left with the daunting prospect of Shaggy and Anni or this Zygy-Starburst boy from Kauno?... Is that the best we can do or are this trio going to get the job like last season for other reasons.

I am not normaly one for conspiracy theories but it is starting to seem to me like we need to play certain players with a view to selling them because of our debt and this is being construed to the managerial candidates who are unhappy with this and so Vlad will put these three stooges in for the start of the season and then move on who he can get cash for and bring in more of his perceived cash cows. In this scenario he can simply say well after MM and Weiss let us down he had to act and bolster the squad so brought in these guys to help us, the stooges ain't gonna complain about who they are told to play and Vlad keeps control for the third year of his reign over
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LionheartFodithman,

21/06/2008 12:37:19
#34
I think we can safely assume by your user ID that you are indeed a "sanctamonious self righteous moron".
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 12:37:52
#35 continued.

...reign over who comes in and who gos out of the team... I am pig-sick of this!
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Jamboy,

21/06/2008 12:43:13
#32 LexGould,

Nothing to say
nothinig to look forward to
No hope
No job
Flat in Magdelane
Benefits
and a wee shot on your mates computer to log on here to feel important
Junk habbit
Burd on the game
Nasal high pitched whining voice
Believes the city/country owes them a favour

The true traits of the Hobo!
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Edinburghs only big team,

21/06/2008 12:50:28
#32 One of my cars is worth more than your flat in leith.

In fact my house is worth more than your training field.

Jog on....
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 12:51:40
#34

I think with your prejudiced beliefs that we can safely assume that you have a 5hit life and rather than attempting the more difficult and rewarding method of making yourself feel better: Self improvment, you instead try to make out that others are not really doing that much better than you... Well until you go to the your benefits review meetings and then the truth comes out: Destitute and bitter.
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Daillyman,

21/06/2008 12:59:13
HMFC and their owners = a joke.

This club and supporters deserve better.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 13:04:14
The press admittedly are reduced to outrageous conjecture and speculation over this but the fact remains that we are heading towards pre-season with pretty much the same set-up as last season... And that gave us the worst season we have ever had in the SPL.

It would not take this long to appoint a manager if there were not mittigating circumstances unorthodox stipulations associated with this job that just don't come with others.

I am not speculating here it is a case of some people believing which ever of Vlad's contradictory statements they choose to.

I was a 'New manager will have autonomy over transfers and picking players' man for a long time but now I am leaning towards the previous 'No future manager will ever have more than 60% say in running the team'

These contradictory statements come from father and son of the same family who currently hold the future of our club in their hands... Unless something pretty majorly good happens in the next week i will have virtually no faith left in them.
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LionheartFodithman,

21/06/2008 13:05:07
#35 Jamboy
I understand fully what your saying mate and i think most,if not all Jambo,s are sick to the back teeth of the non-stories coming out of Tynecastle at the moment.
I have myself e-mailed,phoned & faxed the club just asking for clarification of whats happening and iam sorry to say that i think the club itself over here is not involved in any decisions worth commenting on.

As i have stated though,i am unconvinced that any of the daily stories that we read in the media are anything more than that,stories.

With regards the manager,i think it is plain to see that Vlad was convinced that MM was going to take the job,the reason he didnt,again,theories are plenty or you could choose to believe what MM said himself.

Iam disturbed though about the lack of information that is being released by the club and i do feel insulted and let down like everybody else.As i said i have tried to get answers from the club and i have stated here before,that last season i estimated that i forked out over 2k of my hard earned to support the club i love(not including alcohol).
So far i have spent zilch and i have no intentions of spending anything until i get the answers that i require from club.

What i will say Jamboy is that i try to remain as upbeat as possible on these forums and i try to give a balanced view of my opinions if only sometimes to even up the negativity that these sort of threads breed.
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/06/2008 13:06:01
is it just me or is anyone else becoming very contemptuous of frail?

after everything, the lack of any authority with the players, the lack of any tactical awareness, the insistence in defending a certain big headed, under performing player, all the guff spouted about how many games hearts were going to win and how good a squad he had, and finally the apparent parting of the ways with hearts... he's still here!!! hanging about like a rancid f***.

if this guy had any balls whatsoever he would have chosen his apparent realease from hearts as the moment to go and get himself a real and meaningful job elsewhere. but no, he's still loitering around at riccarton, ready to assume his plastic football manager duties once more.

but hey, he's got a mortgage and other bills to pay, innit?

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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 13:11:44
#41

I don't understand...

Heart of Midlothian Football 'Club' and their owners are a joke but the same 'club' as mentioned in the first part of your statement and the fans deserve better?

Is the club a joke, a victim or does it deserve better?

I wholeheartedly agree about the fans deserving better but people need to start seperating the actions of our eccentric owners with the loyalty of the fans and the actions of the players.

The press is the worst for this and they constantly talk about Hearts (Owner, fans and players) as deserving what is happening to us just now because of the behaviour of our current owner.

FOR THE LAST TIME I HOPE... WE HAD NO CHOICE WITH VLAD AND WE WOULD FOLD WITHOUT HIM NOW! I would rather we were sold to someone else but Vlad owns our debt and he can now just say it is my way or RIP!

Unfortunately he is incompetent at running the footballing side of things but we are over a barrel and so have to just hope he eventually sees what a pig's ear he is making of 'that' side of the club.
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Edinburghs only big team,

21/06/2008 13:12:53
43#

only a weegie would come up with your drivel.

to be negative about something that hasn't even happened and is some 7 weeks away is beyond belief.

Mind you deflects from the boredom of the old firm.

Whats your view on rangers resigning terry butcher in defence? is he too old or can he still do a job for the bears?
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 13:21:13
#44

Sorry mate, you are of course correct and i get up and down like a brides nightie on her honeymoon in terms of how I feel about this situation at the moment.

I am sick of the scandalous way we are being treated by the club WE finance and was desperate for last season to end so that we could start afresh this season and start returning to sender some of the quite frankly sigusting p1sh that has been flung our way from the usuall group of trolls and simpletons on these threads but this was a VERY big opportunity for Vlad and co to make people sit up and take notice but the 'mystery' factor of the whole process is obviously putting people off the job.

I just want to be treated with enough respect so as to be told what the plans are for the future.

Apon re-reading your posts I can see you feel pretty much exactly as i do and i am guilty of letting my frustration cloud my judgment sometimes.

WE DESERVE ANSWERS!
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/06/2008 13:22:08
#43

"if hearts still havent got a manager by the first game of the season then it will be a new low for the club"

You almost seem concerned.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 13:24:52
#48

'Diddy Eastern Europeans'... Hmmm like Velicka? Or is he now a quality player?

You are a joke and i don't even believe you to be a rangers fan as alll the Old Firm fans i know hate the term Old Firm and would cetrainly never use it as a pseudo... I smell a Riley or one of his wee mates at work.
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/06/2008 13:26:27
what we really need is to once again be reminded by some budding albert einstein that it's our duty as hearts fans to 'stand up and be counted' and 'oust the dictator and send him back to johnny-foreigner-land'.

it's such a simple but ingenious plan after all, to march en masse into tynecasle and physically/legally remove the current incumbent and assume ownership of the club.

i have a vision of vlad sitting behind a big executive desk in a throne, crying his eyes out that the hearts fans have mobilised to end his tyrannical reign.

"dratski, i knew this day would come eventually young roman, if only those pesky hoboviks hadn't been so kind to their jambo rivals and told them exactly what to do to save their club, we are finished.

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It's me!,

21/06/2008 13:26:34
Why should Romanov tell the press anything after the slagging he has been given by sports journalists over the years? He was media friendly to begin with but the childish antics of sports journalist brought that to an end. When he has something to say he will tell you on the club's web site rather than the press.
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Edinburghs only big team,

21/06/2008 13:26:50
48#

Multiple questions; All on 2 other teams that truly are cuckoo.

1. Name a team with a dwindling support that hasn't won a major trophy for 56 years. (Clue they haven't won the cup for over 106 years)

2. Name a deluded big? scottish club which has won nothing in europe for over 40 years yet has payed their nearly every year?

And you think Hearts are in trouble....
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/06/2008 13:27:18
#51 I wouldn;t worry about him, Jamboy - he's just a wee pr1ck from Manchester who thinks pretending to be a Weegie gives him "an edge".

You're right about the Old Firm name though, can you imagine anyone on here calling themselves "Edinburgh United"?

Pity the Manc cops never went to town on more of them really.
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Edinburghs only big team,

21/06/2008 13:28:29
Typos ooops

48#

Multiple questions; All on 2 other teams that truly are cuckoo.

1. Name a team with a dwindling support that hasn't won a major trophy for 56 years. (Clue they haven't won the cup for over 106 years)

2. Name a deluded big? scottish club which has won nothing in europe for over 40 years yet has played there nearly every year?

And you think Hearts are in trouble....
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Bleeding Heart...,

21/06/2008 13:29:50
#17 & #35 Well-written, well-argued posts, lads. I share your sense of despair.

I agree with those who suggest that appointing a new manager is not the herculean task Romanov is seemingly making of it.

I believe that Romanov could easily make certain people offers they'd find difficult to refuse. So why doesn't he do this?

It's difficult not to infer that this has become a saga because it's not purely a football decision for Romanov. If it were, Romanov could easily empower say, Ogilvie, to offer certain terms & conditions and then let him hire the best available candidate.

I think this hasn't happened because Romanov wants to be able to "communicate" with the new manager. In other words, he wants to be able to influence the new guy.

Thordarson has already said he's take the Hearts job if the "conditions were right" and that he wouldn't put up with any "cr*p".

The fact that "Thordarson is now thought to be off his (Romanov's) radar" screams out to me that Thordarson is being discounted for reasons that have nothing to do with his coaching ability, but everything to do with his desire to be his own man.

It seems Romanov has learned nothing. If he truly wanted on-field success, the appointment of the new manager would be purely a football decision.

At the last AGM, Junior spoke about the need to sell players to reduce debt. I suspect he revealed more there than he intended about the Politburo's plan for the season ahead.

Does Vlad want control over the decision to sell the likes of Berra? Why would any incoming new manager put up with that kind of restriction on his authority? Is this one of the stumbling blocks..?
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/06/2008 13:34:23
#59 Agree with all you say except this comment: "Does Vlad want control over the decision to sell the likes of Berra?"

All chairmen have control over whether a player is sold, if they feel the deal is good financially. I doubt any hibs manager wanted to sell Brown, Murphy etc etc but Petrie has the final shout.

Unfortunately, Vlad will sell Berra because a) he wants the money and b) he feels he can personally replace him with a loyal Lith.
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/06/2008 13:35:20
#60

Yeah, you're a rangers fan.

Yeah, you think all other clubs, apart from your good friends sellick, are 'diddy' clubs.

Serious question.....why are you here?
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GrahamH,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 13:36:13
Any Hearts fans pointing out short comings in other clubs is not doing us any favours. We have real problms and fans should focus on events (or lack of them) at Tynecastle.

Crazy blaming McGee for not coming to Hearts, was his 'offer' more formal than Weiss had?

7 months not to find a manager - Romanov is held in the type of professional regard you can appreciate why.
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Edinburghs only big team,

21/06/2008 13:40:28
#63

If we ever go 56 year plus without a real trophy or have fans like the old firm then I'll panic.

Until then I will be relaxed in the knowledge that we will get a new manager soon and that *Vlad has achieved more than any other club owner in scottish football.

Plus he's only been here 3 years.

*excluding of course the rather vile weegies.

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victorian of gorgie ,

21/06/2008 13:42:55
#65, well thanks for that. at least you're here for the right reasons then.

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Edinburghs only big team,

21/06/2008 13:44:21
#67 former owners aren't current owners are they?
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Edinburghs only big team,

21/06/2008 13:47:35
#65 The 3rd biggest team - surely you agree that implies we are big?

you claim rangers are a big team in europe - 20th/30th maybe - surely thats being a tad deluded.
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Edinburghs only big team,

21/06/2008 13:49:01
70 I never knew that a teams performance was based on debt?

This is a first.

If so then you/rangers would be bottom of the league.
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/06/2008 13:49:23
#65

"since then, i have had great fun heaping misery on jambos and the odd hibee"

You call referring to everything as "diddy" as 'heaping misery' on jambos?

You're not even at the 'Flats, Flats....tick-tock' level of baiting us.

Pathetic effort.

Away to Follow Follow and I like forward to seeing the response to your "I'm a catholic....." opening line.

See, even rangers fans hate you.

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Vincent Vega,

21/06/2008 13:50:39
#64

Yes he has run up the biggest debt outwith the OF, went the longest without finding a manager, the only chairmen who picks the side and that's without attending the majority of the games.

He's made you a laughing stock in football and could be the man who finally puts an end to Hearts.

Aye he's done well lets all hail King Vlad.
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Puling Prince Roman,

Inextricably stuck in a bambotic tendency 21/06/2008 13:52:28
Souv'nir T-shirts! Getcha Souv'nir T-shirts! They're luvly!

"A Big-Hearted welcome to the new world-famous Irish Manager, Mr Malvin O'Keev!!!"

Limited edition. Only nine Souv'nir T-shirts will be printed.
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Edinburghs only big team,

21/06/2008 13:55:35
#74

If you ever have a job and run a group operation you'll understand that "moving liabilities" is normal in organisations.

The only "moving liabilities" hibs have are on the pitch.

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Indy Rep Kid,

21/06/2008 13:59:42
#77

You're absolutely clueless.

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Edinburghs only big team,

21/06/2008 14:01:09
#77 I did - and its commonly accepted

The size of Hearts support or number of major trophies over last ten years confirms this.



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Indy Rep Kid,

21/06/2008 14:05:56
#80

and major teams would never finish 2nd
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Edinburghs only big team,

21/06/2008 14:06:37
#80 H

Scotlands second biggest team (rangers) would never finish 3rd would they - They did. therefore it does happen.

hibs are bigger losers than Hearts - that is true



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Xacobeo Hearts,

Galicia,....oh dear!!! 21/06/2008 14:08:01
Ho-hum!!!
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Edinburghs only big team,

A.K.A. 3rd Biggest Team - one behind rangers 21/06/2008 14:18:29
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Things don't always go to plan.

I'm sure you can appreciate that fact. After all Rangers have had many embarrassing times over the years. Remember PLG?
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Edinburghs only big team,

A.K.A. 3rd Biggest Team - one behind rangers 21/06/2008 14:27:25
#86 Finishing 3rd in some years is a failure. It depends on circumstances.

ps, even if rangers are the second biggest team, its hardly anything to shout about in a 1 team league is it? ;)

pps off to cut 1 12 foot beech hedge and clean 2 cars.

Its good to talk.....
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I.J,

The Diggers 21/06/2008 14:30:28
#80 - is that really the best you can do? "hibs are bigger than Hearts"?

Oh come on now. Why not raise it up a notch, and call us "poopy pants" or "jobby bums".

Jesus H.
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/06/2008 14:39:26
#91

"stop talking sh1te"

COMEDY GOLD!!!
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/06/2008 14:46:33
#93

deranged
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 14:49:05
#91

Certainly...

I know people from all walks of life rich and not so well off.

I currently work in an academic environment with people from all over the world and as a result that also includes the odd weegie. In previous lives (or so it sometimes seems) i have also worked in the building trade and even office environments, i have lived briefly in glasgow where i had Glaswegian friends, i have a social life where I meet lots of different people, I have glory-hunter friends and relatives and i have weegie friends (one as i mentioned earlier is a Roman Catholic, freemason and a Celtic fan) and I have met Old Firm fans from all different backgrounds...

NOT ONE OF THESE VERY DIFERENT PEOPLE WOULD EVER CALL THEMSELVES 'OLD FIRM' ON A NEWSPAPER DISCUSSIAN BOARD OR SPEND SUCH A FRANKLY DISTURBING AMOUNT OF TIME ON COMMENTING ON A TEAM THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IRRELEVANT TO YOU!

Sorry man but you just don't fit the profile i'm afraid and there is nothing you could do to convince me otherwise... Part-time armchair fan whio will support whoever is winning, never a true fan in your life.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 14:50:02
PS this diddy fixation... Did mummy not breast feed?
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/06/2008 14:51:22
#95

nutjob
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/06/2008 14:52:39
Maybe Old Firm is the boy who got thrown through the window of the Gorgie Road chip shop all those years ago.

Might explain the hatred,

Rangers - taking a beating since 18-whenever
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/06/2008 14:55:30
careful lads, none of us are worthy to joust with clever clogs old firm there. he gets paid £28,000 a year you know?

plus commission.

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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 14:58:37
#100

"he gets paid £28,000 a year you know?"

Aye but have you seen some of the mutants that volunteer for clinical trials...
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/06/2008 15:02:41
#101 jamboy, good one. his 'profession' must be along those lines or perhaps some kind of refuse collection based position because he rarely covers himself in glory in the spelling and grammar stakes.

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Jamboy,

21/06/2008 15:07:50
#91

"you say i know nothing of what it is to be a rangers or celtic fan? what is it that i dont know? i would be interested in what you mean by that"

I bet you would, then you would be able to fake it better and not get such a slagging of the true Rantic fans in the boozers who no-matter how hard you try never take a word you say seriously due to your see through glory hunting, know it all (but really nothing) attitude and your ignorance.

It only takes reading the first two words of any of your posts 'old firm' before your credability is shot and unretrievable.

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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 15:12:07
#95

Who would you have supported if rangers were not winning ever