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Investigation begins as Hearts players are paid at last



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Published Date: 27 September 2008
THE Hearts players and backroom staff all received their delayed wages yesterday as the club's parent company prepared to hold an investigation into what went wrong.
The players got their wages a week late, while the staff's monthly salaries were two days late – both because of what a spokesman for Hearts called a "technical hitch". The nature of that hitch has not been revealed, but the club have said it is "highly unlikely" to happen again, suggesting it was not a cash-flow problem.

As well as being an unwelcome distraction, the episode has been an embarrassment to Hearts. What was dismissed initially as a blip that would be remedied almost immediately turned into a saga, with no-one knowing for sure what the outcome would be.

First, the players went without pay on Friday last week, and Hearts reported that they would all be paid early the next week. This did not happen, and the players were soon joined by other members of staff who missed their monthly salaries. A promise was made that the money would all be paid by yesterday, and the money came through – but not without the players having to keep waiting for a brief spell after all other employees had received their wages.

Now Ukio Bankas Investment Group (UBIG), the Lithuania-based business of which Hearts are effectively one branch, are to hold an internal inquiry into the matter next week. Sergejus Fedotovas, the high-ranking UBIG employee who is also a director of Hearts, has been blamed by some of his colleagues for the "hitch", and will be asked to explain what went wrong.

"We are waiting for Sergejus to come back from Scotland next week and will need to go through exactly what happened," Jurga Chomskyte-McGeever, UBIG's head of marketing and communications, said yesterday. "There have been no problems at UBIG.

"We hope it will never happen again. We don't expect it to, as there are no objective reasons why it did this time."

Objective reasons would include such matters as a shortage of funds. By implying there was a subjective reason for the problem, Chomskyte-McGeever was apparently suggesting human error was to blame. She refused to comment on Fedotovas's future at Hearts, but it appears likely that someone will be made to carry the can for the pay delay.

For Hearts' employees, the main feeling yesterday was one of relief. Csaba Laszlo, the manager, said he and the players had been able to concentrate on preparing for today's game against Dundee United, but admitted he had regarded the payment delay as a difficulty.

"It's not a big problem," Laszlo said. "Today everybody is paid.

"Today a lot of players looked, also myself. We have the money in our accounts and we are being paid, and now we are concentrating on the football.

"I don't like to talk about the money. We would like to go out and show we have a unit in the dressing room. We want to show we are a football team.

"We don't have a big problem in the dressing room and for me the most important thing is to keep the spirits up. Everybody can see that the players' priority is to play football.

"Always in your life you have problems, and you must have solutions. For me solution is beating Dundee United.

"If you talk with Christophe Berra, with Christos Karipidis, with the experienced players, they tell me it's okay, coach, everything is positive."

Asked if he was sure the difficulty would not recur, however, Laszlo could only say he hoped there would be no repetition. "I hope so. I can't answer that question.

"I don't run that side of things and I have no influence over that. For me, I have my part to play and I have my job which I hope to do for as long as I can.

"I hope it will never happen again, but my job is to bring results. My job is not to think about or discuss this situation.

"At the moment. the most important thing is the Dundee United game. It's a very heavy game for us."

Laszlo has been able to deal with the situation relatively calmly because it is not new to him, he went on to explain. "I had to wait three years to get one year's salary from Ferencvaros. I got my last year's salary from them just four months ago after leaving the club three years ago.

"Sometimes you have these situations, but also at Ferencvaros, I concentrated on my job. We also had a very good team and were always at top, playing very good football."

Mike Tullberg, the Danish striker who is in the Hearts squad for the first time today, said that he too had experience of going without pay while at Italian club Reggina.

"In Italy before I was not paid for the first four months I was down there, so for me one week or two weeks is not an issue for me," said the 22-year-old, who is currently on loan to Hearts from Reggina. "It's nothing I use time thinking about.

"Down there it's normal. It's not a big deal. Maybe you get two months' salary, then you go without salary for some months. But you get used to it.

"I don't think it's a cash problem (ie in Italy]. In the south of Italy you have a different culture than you have in Denmark or Scotland."

Tullberg, who has signed on loan from Reggina for the season, tore a thigh muscle in pre-season training. He is expected to come off the bench at Tannadice, where Hearts are determined to show they have not been adversely affected by the "hitch".

"We are just thinking about getting the three points," the Dane added. "The only thing I have to concentrate about is to go out on the training pitch and regain my form and help the team.

"I don't think it will happen again, but if it will it will. I think it was just a fault, like the club said."

• A spokesman for MTZ-RIPO, the club in Belarus in which Hearts owner Vladimir Romanov has an interest, refused to comment yesterday on whether its players had received wages this week.


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  • Last Updated: 26 September 2008 9:26 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
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1

the beast,

London 27/09/2008 00:26:35
What a idiot this boy is if its the Cok the Clown as his want, then surely someone should give him the job.
The first para gives the game away,
First, the players went without pay on Friday last week, and Hearts reported that they would all be paid early the next week. This did not happen, and the players were soon joined by other members of staff who missed their monthly salaries. A promise was made that the money would all be paid by yesterday, and the money came through – but not without the players having to keep waiting for a brief spell after all other employees had received their wages.

Lets read that again!! A promise was made that the money would all be paid by yesterday, and the money came through.

Milk running dry and still he suckles the uddrer!!
2

John McCain's Frozen Chips,

Glasgow 27/09/2008 00:47:24
At a time when it is imperative for banks to maintain their impression of reliability with investors, Ukio has allowed this pantomime to take place.
As for UBIG's investments in Republika Srpska . . .
Oh dear!!!

The fat lady is having a wee cough....
3

Irish by berth British by choice,

Edinburgh 27/09/2008 00:57:37
As a British Government employee , thank G my pension is not paid by an East European "spiv"
4

Giuseppe Tortolano,

27/09/2008 01:20:51
Mr Bathgate's anti-Hearts agenda continues apace, eh Jambos?
5

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 27/09/2008 01:43:07
Where I come from an "investigation" involves burly cops from the serious fraud squad, search warrants, testimony under oath, and a battering ram.
In Stuey Bathgate's bizarre parallel universe it's Mad Vlad's people talking to Mad Vlad's other people.
In the known world that's called an @ss covering whitewash.
And a transparent and cynical attempt to hoodwink the Lithuanian punters from unloading more of the Vladster's bank stock on the dodgy Baltic Stock Exchange.
This only gets better and better.
What will the Tannadice Firm be singing this afternoon?
Fellow Jambos I feel your pain.
Who would rid us of this meddlesome Eastern Euro snaphead?

6

Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 27/09/2008 02:06:16
Fellow Jambos I ask all to please Ignore this continuing attempt to destabilise our season with the anti Vlad witch hunt against our club.
We all know this has been a running sore with the Glasgow red tops but our own Edinburgh local paper has joined in to try and get back at Vlad.
What they forget is that there agenda effects the local people who buy there poor sub standard product.
I have followed Hearts all my life as all my family have for at least 5 generations.
If the Hibsman has a story of Ubig going out the box let us know that's news and I'm worried if not STFU.
Good luck to the boys today you will need it with the Hibby ref in charge.Good luck to the Pen Nibs too on Sunday.Always back the capitol side against the real enemy we all know who this is and its a pity the local press don't.
JT for life.
7

Jambo Dave,

Edinburg 27/09/2008 02:23:22
Btw.Bad luck Jane you drew the short straw.Im sure you know what I mean.You are probrbly to polite to comment.You would be better served getting a job with a real jurno.Good luck to you in your new career Jambos can be nice if your nice to them.
8

Roderick,

Barnard Castle 27/09/2008 04:47:21
One gets the feeling Bathgate is genuinely disappointed that the issue is now resolved. Who contrived to turn this "blip" into a "saga", but the likes of Bathgate, who obviously nurses delusions of grandeur as an investigative journalist. Smugness and arrogance are traits which loom large in Bathgate's psyche.
9

uncle bulgaria,

27/09/2008 05:12:16
Any journalist who ignored this story would be sacked.

Not for nothing is it being followed by The Guardian and BBC.

10

Joak,

Oot-O'-Toon 27/09/2008 05:57:19
Ah jeest goat back frae Ooter Siberia....and the wurd oan the sturrreet...eese dat "zee neext time zees appens zee kurlee-peet vill be shot or... um... foreverrr condemned..um... to a submarine zat shall not everrr rise agen...um...an' zat ees zee truth."
11

Surefire,

27/09/2008 06:15:34
ahh good...so everything is sweet down gorgie way now. Not a thing to worry about im sure...come on now?
12

Scoop in the City,

27/09/2008 06:44:47
#9 - Have you read the Guardian article on this? It is fair, objective and without the red-top or Bathgate anti-romanov spin. It's called journalism. As for the BBC - when you are having to quote Chick Young, you know you have already lost.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/sep/26/hearts.romanov
13

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27/09/2008 06:46:33
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FTH22inarow,

27/09/2008 07:33:41
tell me hobo's man do we have a game today?
15

Rufus T. Firefly,

27/09/2008 07:46:39
Obligor you are a weirdo.

Get some professional help before its too late.
16

NBJT,

North Berwick 27/09/2008 07:47:34
I feel so sorry for the Hobo fans and press reporters who were so excited last week that Hearts were about to 'go under'!

This is and was another 'non story'about Hearts.

The comments by Chick Dung on his BBC website pages are so laughable it beggers belief.

Surely the Scotsman should have been above reporting this story the way it did! There was no journalistic investigation, but rather copying what the 'red tops' said with a bit of football fans forums comments thrown in!

Bring back John Rafferty!

107 years in a row.
22 in a row.
10-2, biggest score between Hearts and Hibs.
17

what a chancer,

on the tee 27/09/2008 07:56:12
time to roll the sleeves up ,get the ball dancers of the pitch,we need a solid team today any slackers will surely cost us points.
18

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 27/09/2008 08:24:28
#12 "Scoop"...To compare the Gaurdian to this "rag" is unfair.
The Guardian is a quality newspaper, with some superb journalists, and The Scotsman...IS NOT. It has a few really good journalists, but the sports section is brutal and Bathgate may thinnk he's influential, or informed, but the reality is, he's a bitter wee nyaff.
I have a Guardian Book on Football on my desk here in the study, the quality of the writing is superb...Ach don't get me on a rant!!!
The audacity of Bathgate! to ask MTZ Ripo if they are paying salaries on time, is he for real?
GEt on the blower to Rangers Bathgate and ask them how many of their fans have been banned for life for singing vile sectarian songs. How many of the thugs who rampaged in Manchester have been tracked down and simmilarly punished.
Get working for a living instead of point scoring on a guy you obviously detest.
Sorry the rant is in full swing!!!!
19

Harpy,

Owning the Capital 27/09/2008 08:51:38
Let me save the parent company the time and bother of "an investigation".

Your skint.

There you are job done.

Any word on whether Vlad has settled the 5 figure outstanding sums being demanded by several of their creditors?
20

uncle bulgaria,

27/09/2008 08:58:38
Scoop thanks for that link - here's the report I read.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/27/hearts.celtic

By the way one reason it reads in a better and more measured way is because the Guardian journalist isn't under pressure to stretch this story in to a new report every day.

That journo can just report the facts. Bathgate however is under pressure everyday to come up with a new angle.

Why? Because everyone is waiting on the next instalment. The number of commnets on related threads tell us that.

No way would a chief reporter accept "but nuthin's happened boss, can I report on Motherwell's innovative scouting system instead."

But yes, another reason is because the Scotsman is well average and The Guardian is pretty good.




21

mon-the-hertz,

Glasgow - Southside 27/09/2008 09:00:18
"Asked if he was sure the difficulty would not recur, however, Laszlo could only say he hoped there would be no repetition. "I hope so. I can't answer that question."

Funny that, what with him being a coach and concerned with training the players etc as opposed to the financial side of the club - why don't you ask him about the game he's preparing for today instead Bathgate?
22

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 27/09/2008 09:06:47
It's quite remarkable how the hootsman/EEN can keep gurgling on about this non-story.
23

swansong,

penicuik 27/09/2008 09:15:13
"Gloating amateur economists, meanwhile, continue to predict that their notion of the famous old ground being turned into flats within two years is proving more and more prescient by the week." quote from said guardian article.
i particularly like the opening 3 words.this chap obviously has his finger on the button.

to real matters.

good to see the dane in the squad probably not ready to play yet. apparently only started training with full squad this week.
today is going to be tough as utd will have their tails up from last week.
good luck to hmfc today.
24

John H,

edinburgh 27/09/2008 09:18:42
13
You are correct in stating that the goal should have stood as the players involved were not offside. Problem was when the assistant raised the flag incorrectly the man in black blew his whistle and that was prior to the ball going into the net. The defenders had ceased to defend by then. Shocking decision by the assistant.
As for favours from officials, definitely. Has been going on since the start of football in this country and anyone who reads the history of the game knows it. Only the blinkered deny it as it takes the shine of their achievements big time.
25

Survivor Of Riots,

27/09/2008 09:32:15
18 - Bet your request falls on deaf ears.

That all the other Scottish CLubs are fair game for pugnatious "investigative" journalists is a well known fact.

However, the club you mention, which has more issues than any other for pugnatious journos to get their teeth into is strictly off limits.

It is a known fact that ReaRangers addressed the Scottish Media after Mancheester and effectiveley asked for a cover up to protect the clubs image.

Nothing wrong with them asking. Everything wrong with them receiving.

Sums it up really.

Something we should all bear in mind when deciding the integrity of any Scottish Journo.
26

walter,

27/09/2008 09:34:21
#12
You are right it is a more objective report and although it is critical of Hearts/Romanov and the goings on at Tynecastle they are positive.
I must admit I did like these 2 comments.

rumours swept the country on Tuesday that Hearts were within hours of going bust, had laid off their entire support staff and, in a commonly-used term, had become "the new Gretna".
They were only rumours, thankfully, and it is far from the first time gloom-merchants have predicted Vladimir Romanov and Hearts demise.

and

Gloating amateur economists, meanwhile, continue to predict that their notion of the famous old ground being turned into flats within two years is proving more and more prescient by the week. There is no fundamental basis to these theories, mind you, other than Romanov being eastern European, therefore apparently untrustworthy, and owning a little-known bank with which Hearts have borrowing facilities.

Strange how Bathgate insists that no explanation has been forthcoming of what the technical hitch was yet we read in this article.

The most reasonable explanation from Hearts officials relating to the wage issue was that transferred money ended up in the wrong account.

It looks like an explanation by officials had been given yet Bathgate has not bothered reporting it.
27

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27/09/2008 09:35:06
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The Spook in Leith,

27/09/2008 09:35:41
Investigation begins as Hearts players are paid at last


Hmmm, don't know what all the fuss is about coz most small clubs have money problems come the end of the month!!
29

REality Check,

27/09/2008 09:59:24
#13
Steve Conroy is a died in the wool celtic fan (FACT)
Paranoia elsewhere please
30

gorgiegobbler,

edinburgh 27/09/2008 10:06:30
the wee team never has any wages problems ! every friday they take the empty lemonade bottles down to the shops and divvy the money up !your not called the hobos for nothing !
31

tommytommy,

27/09/2008 10:11:47
26

There hasnt been a statement of worth from Hearts to adequately explain the "Technical Hitch"that lead to this own goal.

The loss of confidence within staff and in the wider community can not be undone.

One more nail in Hearts coffin before Romanov and his cohorts disappear into their sunnny Black Sea resorts
32

Noods,

27/09/2008 10:15:25
#31

Would you like a bib to catch the p1sh you are slavering?

The staff are happy with the explanation given, YOU are not owed an explanation because you are a drivelling idiot, comprende?
33

Jambo-ree,

27/09/2008 10:36:31
Can't believe they're are STILL spinning this story out. Perhaps they had pre-allocated so many column inches to Hearts' demise and now are struggling to fill them.

Jurga Chomskyte-McGeever - must odds-on favourite for name of the month!

#31 TT as you are the sole arbitor of what constitutes 'worth' from your own slanted perspective then there will never ever be anything that meets your own twisted criteria. We feel your disappointment.

C'mon the JTs!!
34

Teary Ennui,

27/09/2008 10:44:18
"Thistle had a perfectly good goal chalked off for offside when it was patently obvious that the Thistle player was clearly onside before he knocked the ball into the net after 15 minutes play" (#13)

More like Thistle knocked the ball into the net 15 minutes after the whistle had gone and the Rangers defence stopped playing. :0)
35

paulmac,

surrey 27/09/2008 10:49:58
I think it's worth remembering.....that in all of this sad affair....there are ordinary people working at Hearts in the offices and at the club who have been at the butt end of this salary problem....

Players who are paid 2-3-4 thousand a week...can go a fair time without pay....and to be honest...I don't give to hoots about them.....

Unfortunatly...the weee lassie in the office that picks up her £6 an hour doesn't have that luxury....

Now moving on.....

Celtic 5-0 Eberdeen
Dundee Utd 2-1 Herzts
Motherwell 2-0 St Mirren
Falkirk 3-1 Hamilton
ICT 1-2 Killie
Hibs 2-2 Rangers
36

swansong,

penicuik 27/09/2008 10:58:36
35 your predictions- wishful thinking - i hope.

no doubt a very difficult task for hearts today. however heres hoping they have enough character to come away wth three points.


37

forbesy1873,

27/09/2008 11:05:51
Though I hate to say it I have picked Celtc to win by two goals in the predictor minileague, my predictions for the week are,

Celtc 3 Sheep 1
D Utd 1 Hearts 1
Falkirk 2 Hamilton 1
ICT 1 Kilmarnock 2
Motherwell 2 St Mirren 0
Rangers 2 Hibs 1
Boyd for the first scorer

After my debut last week and a very respectable 10 points I am going to back these up with Mr. Ladbrokes.
38

Naeboz,

27/09/2008 11:12:02
Bathgate,
Let it go ya bell-end!
39

Gorgie's Finest,

27/09/2008 11:28:18
Mornin Guys

Got my predictions in
Celtic 3-1 Aberdeen
D Utd 1-2 Hearts
Falkirk 2-2 Hamilton
ICT 0-2 Kilmarnock
Motherwell 1-1 St Mirren
Hibs 2-1 Rangers (Fletcher first scorer)

Difficult one for us this week DUtd will be fired up after last week, I just feel with a few of our players back and Tullberg now in the squad adding hopefully that bit extra firepower we might just edge it (Possibly a bit of wishfull thinking in there too) Im not going in for any of the guff that some have mentioned about players being affected by the wages, So far Csaba has came across as an honest guy and no reason to doubt him, so I believe him when he says the players are unaffected, adding to that berras statement so I really don't think thats an issue.

Anyone hear Csaba's pre-match talk yesterday?

He commented on Ferencvaros when a reporter asked about the wages issue he said he had went weeks sometimes without pay so it was nothing new to him, reporter asked if there was a difference between Hearts and Ferencvaros he replied

"Yes they play in green we play in Maroon"

Quality stuff.
40

Roscoe P Coltrane,

27/09/2008 11:35:41
TIMMY!!!!!!!!!!

Just fvck off Tommy, you became very tiresome quite a long time ago.
41

Roscoe P Coltrane,

27/09/2008 11:38:03
2-1 today by the way. It'll be a tough game though, the Terrors will be wanting to hold on to the momentum from the win in their last game.

As long as they don't fire several past us again.....
42

Gorgie's Finest,

27/09/2008 11:38:23
Back to the article, TBH I haven't even bothered reading it properly just looked at a few lines, whats the point? it;s just the same regurgetated drivel that we have had the last few days. The Guardian article is where people will find out a lot more information I posted the link yesterday and commented on it, as have a few people today.

For those looking for answers or explanations you could do a lot worse than read it, instead of reading this type of mickey mouse reporting and taking it in.

The Guardian actually give an explanation and attributes it to a Hearts official. Money was Transferred originally to a wrong bank account. I did post information on TUESDAY on my website that I had heard the "Glitch" was due to a security issue with the transferring of funds.That the players had had this explained to them and were more relieved than anything that the problem had been noticed. Perhaps my information was not so far off the mark after all, and would make perfect sense as to why it had taken so long. How many people on here would be glad their employers had found a problem in a transferring of their wages? would you not rather wait and have your money securely than possible security issues with it? Lets not forget these wages are paid weekly, so the problem had to rectified so there would not be issues again in the future.
43

swansong,

penicuik 27/09/2008 11:43:47
not enough to continually harass the non scots associated with hearts. the daily ranger now publishes another article today in a further attempt at humiliating the club.
a earlier poster pointed out that we are are a small parochial little country. sadly he is correct. perpetuated by the likes of this sub standard reporting.
toilet papers for the masses.

44

Gorgie's Finest,

27/09/2008 11:48:51
#43 Swansong

Why am I not surprised? I havent read the rioter or sun, I wouldnt have either of them on my doorstep let alone my house. Gutter rags for small minded people who don't have the intelligence to read a proper Newspaper and understand it. People who read these rags are of the sort that need information told to them (Even if it is one sided), and who are not able to make up their own minds on a subject and draw an equal balanced view of it.
45

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swansong,

penicuik 27/09/2008 11:58:32
44- like yourself, the comics have been discarded many years ago. however i did look online for the lastest ramblings. they have their teeth on a story and wont let it go. had the misfortune to hear someone from the other pulp last night. who waxed lyrically about inpending doom, i almost heard him wetting his panties in excitement.

47

JamboJambo,

A 27/09/2008 11:59:01
"As well as being an unwelcome distraction, the episode has been an embarrassment to Hearts. What was dismissed initially as a blip that would be remedied almost immediately turned into a SAGA, with no-one knowing for sure what the outcome would be".

SAGA?

Created by @sshole jounalists at The Scrotesman It was a technical hitch that this paper tried to blow out of proportion.

How long before page 3 girls and a your name in a little red square on the front?

ps I saw Elvis down Leith Walk. Thats about your level Scrotesman
48

swansong,

penicuik 27/09/2008 12:00:00
45- hope the hibees take them down a peg. would welcome a home win and thats from a jambo.

49

Roscoe P Coltrane,

27/09/2008 12:00:04
GF - if anybody watched Russell Brand live on the Cooncil Telly last night, despite the fact he's not my favourite person he was consistently funny and did a great piece deconstructing a Daily Star article that had been written about him, pointing out that every single thing they said was a complete lie, but that basically he couldn't be ar$ed sueing them.

Anybody with a modicum of sense knows at least 50% of what these garbage peddlers print is made up, but unfortunately people keep reading them.

He also did a funny skit about the Sun, which spends 90% of its time pretending to be your slightly-wide mate ("here ya go mate, trips to France for only a quid" "have a free beer/steak slice on us mate" "come on, it's only a bit of a laugh") but you've got to also join it in its slightly racist undertones as well. "Look at her on Page 3, she's gorgeous! Oh well, I guess I could be a little bit racist...."

Obviously a damn sight funnier when he did it......
50

swansong,

penicuik 27/09/2008 12:02:26
44- forgot to say. these type of folks you mentioned are, im reliably informed, referred to as professional ambulance chasers in the grand old us of a.
51

Gorgie's Finest,

27/09/2008 12:04:17
#45 DH

Banter aside and all that. I say it as i see it, i try to look at results using my head not my heart (Although can be very difficult sometimes when its your own team involved) Just think with Rangers playing 120mins football midweek a trip to easter road against Hibs who always seem to put on a good show against them, then you lot might just have the edge in this one. Had it been Ibrox and/or no 120mins midweek football then i might have gone the other way.

I was teetering on putting ourselves down for a draw, thats the point i think wishfull thinking took over. I think the only game anyone can confidently predict a win for is the celtic v aberdeen match, stranger things have happened but i just cant see the sheep getting anything from the game, there in freefall, and i think the jaffa is only a few more games away from a p45
52

Gorgie's Finest,

27/09/2008 12:12:29
#49 Roscoe

Didnt see RB last night i dont normally watch him but when her indoors has watched him in the past ive caught a few snippets and he can be quite funny. Most people with a bit of common sense know what the gutter rags are like, anything to sell a paper they print, up here it's Hearts and anything negative about us. Why is that? because this little unknown Russian dared come here and have the audacity to try and challenge there bread and butter the OF, and then when he had the cohonies to speak out against them and the OF it was open season to start the witch hunt. Im not saying VR has deserved some bad press, and I wouldnt defend him on a lot of things, however when it comes to the media and OF he's the only one with the cohonies to say it as it is. Many others agree with him but are to afraid to speak out for fear of reprisals and fines etc etc.
53

Gorgie's Finest,

27/09/2008 12:15:25
On a lighter note, I see UEFA are investigating some 25 matches played this summer in the UEFA and Intertattie cup, for match fixing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/27/1

Hibs v Elfsborgs by any chance?
54

busbyfh,

27/09/2008 12:24:35
# 8

Barnard castle - Good place to visit - had a good lunch there.
I'm convinced that Bathgate revels in his role of "head" tormentor which is surprising as his writing is sub standard in comparison to others - BAnderson for one.

Hope FFFHibs stuff the sash wearers on Sunday.
55

forbesy1873,

27/09/2008 13:10:32
Ladies, ladies, ladies!

You all seem to have an unhealthy fascination with Rangers. What is that all about? Jealousy? or is it just an inferiority complex?
56

Bleeding Heart...,

27/09/2008 17:40:02
The article doesn't deserve any more comment.

But one thing that did emerge from this saga was the story that a "group of foreign businessmen" apparently had had their bid for Romanov's shareholding rejected.

Let's assume this story is true. Do we want Romanov out?

In my view, I don't think Romanov is "hands-on" enough to be someone who really cares about footballing success.

His lack of investment in the team - glaringly illustrated in today's scoreline - begs some serious questions.

A report attached to the last set of published accounts spoke of European football as being a way to increase revenues.

If so, why doesn't Romanov invest in bringing in quality players?

Why does Romanov want to retain a majority shareholding in HMFC, if not to fund domestic success and regular European football (and thereby recoup his initial investment in the club)?

If Romanov can't or won't provide the players necessary for a serious challenge, what use is he? Why doesn't he sell up?

Might HMFC not be better served by an incoming owner with the ability to make Hearts a real force?


57

VictorianGorgie,

27/09/2008 17:53:12
sore one for the guys today. that's the way it goes sometimes in the spl, a lot of teams are pretty similar in quality and teams are always capable of beating each other.

end of the world? for some yes, for some no.

without a shadow of doubt it will be the wages 'scandal' that was the main contributory factor behind the defeat, for people who want to represent it that way. the truth for hearts fans is that the main reason behind most defeats is that we are sorely short of quality up top.

the incredible, almost surreal, attention our club now attracts has probably been the reason why the match report thread is closed to comments. we're now to be like one of the old firm then? a team who's articles can't be commented on due to the unbelievable obsession and wanton bitterness of others? fair enough then.

other teams have still to play this weekend but at the moment we still have 3rd place. we can't rely on home form to get 3rd place at the end, we must make inroads into picking up more away.

i'm sure the perennial wrist slitters will be around more this week than last, that is the way of things.

58

busbyfh,

27/09/2008 17:54:15
No excuses

BUT

3rd goal awarded after a "debatable free kick" was given against us...we had a player sent off - I and a couple others on here on Thursday said that when we found out who the ref was Hearts would get a man sent off. No excuses - just that MuckDonald the ref ALWAYS has been an 4rse that runs like he has piles.

I note (not being able to get to the game) that Wallace AGAIN had a bad match - How long must we put up with him ?
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60

busbyfh,

27/09/2008 18:05:32
# 56

It's the American that we seemingly want - three years ago when Romanov bought the club it was reported by a few rags that a Yank was after us , but his interest came too late - this one makes the Americans that took over Aston Villa and liverpool seem like paupers.
Just because his Dad came from Edinburgh and was a seemingly fervent Hearts fan up until he was about 12 when he went to live in the USA."Junior" was brought up in an exiled Jambo environment and still takes an interest in results - he would like to buy the club for his Dad's sake - probable bu11shit but that's the way the story went.

We lost today - no big deal .
61

Silence of the Yams,

27/09/2008 18:05:32
Had to laugh when I heard the Yamz were streaming out with almost half an hour to go. Heh heh, that's how it should be every week.
62

Bleeding Heart...,

27/09/2008 18:29:51
#60 - I may well be one of "the perennial wrist slitters" as the less tolerant faction like to say, but I care as much about HMFC as anyone.

Depending on the circumstances, losing a football match may not be a big deal. But today, Hearts were gubbed.

My point is that nothing has been done to ensure that this type of result doesn't happen.

The reality is that Romanov's inactivity and mismanagement have resulted in Hearts fielding a sub-standard team.

And as for McDonald, the man's bias is no longer even debateable.

If a referee were to produce a comparable string of decisions against an Old Firm club, then he would be refereeing schoolboy matches by now.

Why don't Hearts challenge this? Has Romanov not noticed what goes on? Come to think of it...

63

Waspy100,

27/09/2008 20:16:01
#62
Results like this happen all the time
Look at Arsenal getting gubbed by Hull today.
After watching Hull against Hearts I put Hull down as strait relegation canditates.
Early days see what happens in the next few weeks
64

Talk o' the Toun,

27/09/2008 22:24:52
#61 never let the truth get in the way of your ramblings!
At 3-0 vast majority of a large HEARTS travelling support intact/stayed to end & applauded(not quite sure why)the team from the park.

As dissapointing as it was the suporters recognise the fact the team are giving their all.

HHGH
65

thepundit,

27/09/2008 23:18:47
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i hear the hearts players have had a weeks wages taken back....
66

Bleeding Heart...,

27/09/2008 23:55:34
#63 Not sure if I'd describe Arsenal's defeat as a "gubbing" - and at least Arsenal fans know their team CAN perform on a much higher level.

As you say, it's early doors. But defeats to Airdrie, Falkirk, and now Dundee Utd don't bode well for Hearts' chances of being the "best of the rest".

The next four league fixtures will tell us a lot.

 

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