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Laszlo's reign gets off to flat start



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Published Date: 15 July 2008
NEW Hearts manager Csaba Laszlo got his Tynecastle tenure off to an uninspiring start last night as his team drew 1-1 with Irish Premiership part-timers Glentoran in Belfast.
Playing for the Umbro Cup, Glentoran actually won the game on penalties after Saulius Mikoliunas had put Hearts in front, only for the visitors to be pegged back by the right foot of 19-year-old student Ryan Berry late in the game.

But Laszlo insi
sts his own experience of pre-season matches has shown they mean little when a new campaign starts.

He said: "At my last club, we lost all our pre-season games and, when it came round to the league, we won our first six matches in a row. That doesn't mean I go out not to win games – it just means not to take too much notice of pre-season games.

"It is about trying to get concentration levels and fitness levels higher, and working with different formations. I want the team to be able to play two or three different formations and it will take a little time for them to do that."

Indeed, Laszlo put an early stamp on his new side by sending them out in a somewhat unusual formation. Playing with a 4-2-3-1, the Hungarian showed he at least is not afraid to try something a little different.

Ruben Palazuelos and Eggert Jonsson played in a holding role just in front of the back four with Mikoliunas, Michael Stewart and Andrew Driver ahead of them in the middle of the park. Gary Glen was given the task of finding a way past the home defence on his own.

The new Hearts manager, however, has called for leadership across the team.

Laszlo said: "I want the players to shout more. I have plenty of leaders and experienced players, but they need to talk more."

Just five minutes into Laszlo's reign, the visitors were in front when Mikoliunas turned and chipped into the top corner from 20 yards out, catching goalkeeper Elliott Morris off guard.

While Hearts were dominant, the Belfast side were a decent test and two minutes after his side went behind, Dean Fitzgerald struck the ball just wide.

Hearts were producing some neat football, sliding the ball around the impeccable surface and controlled most of the play. But Laszlo replaced Driver with Kestutis Ivaskevicius, such was the tenacity of some challenges.

Lee Wallace had Hearts' first real opportunity after the break when he followed up a great run down the left flank with a powerful shot which flew wide.

Hearts were guilty of a lapse in concentration after the hour mark, though, when Jason Thomson tried to play the ball across the face of goal, only for David Scullion to steal in unchallenged 12 yards from goal. Thomson's blushes were saved as goalkeeper Anthony Basso came to the rescue with a block.

But on 72 minutes the home side drew level when Berry's long-range drive nestled in the corner of Basso's goal, leaving the game to be decided on penalties, with Craig Sives missing Hearts' final spot-kick.

Glentoran: Morris, Nixon, Ward, Johnny Taylor, Hill, Boyce, Fordyce, Fitzgerald, Neill, Hamilton, Halliday. Subs: James Taylor, Simpson, Scullion, Carson, Berry, McGovern, Bowers, McMenamin, Burrows, Ferguson.

Hearts: Banks, Thomson, Karipidis, Zaliukis, Wallace, Palazuelos, Jonsson, Mikoliunas, Stewart, Driver, Glenn. Subs: Ivaskevicius, Basso, Doherty, Kelly, Screpis, Elliot, Sives.

Hearts' 16-year-old striker Scott Robinson, who became the club's youngest first-team player in April when he came on against Inverness, has been given a three-year professional contract.





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  • Last Updated: 15 July 2008 12:14 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
1

dumfries jambo,

15/07/2008 00:08:44
Better start signing Laszlo, this apology of a team aint got the fight in them nor are they talented enough, if it needed proven see the above result against part timers, another sad jambo day!!!
2

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

15/07/2008 00:13:11
#1 For goodness sake, it's a very young team and was a training match with every single player getting a game including nine from the youth academy. Hold your fire until at least after a few competitive games and give the guy a chance. You're sounding like a Hibee.
3

ozdon,

Melbourne, 15/07/2008 00:14:09
After all the turmoil off field, a 1-1 draw was a good run out for Laszlo's team, looking forward to the new season here, i can see great things happening
4

dumfries jambo,

15/07/2008 00:36:26
it's a very young team and was a training match with every single player getting a game including nine from the youth academy

yes thank you #2

what the hell were we playing against?
5

dumfries jambo,

15/07/2008 00:39:54
if our best youths cannot beat part time tattie growers, students, and flower arrangers we clearly need to clear out the dead wood and sign players as my first post indicated


rant over
6

bring them on,

15/07/2008 01:04:59
Further shame.
7

Radge Roberto,

Shoutland 15/07/2008 01:19:34
I like shouting as well - shouting's great - I reckon with a lot more shouting Hearts or Hibs (if they chose to shout as well)could win the champions league !
8

bring them on,

15/07/2008 01:46:47
Hearts would be better off not playing any games for a couple of seasons.

It might improve their reputation and financial position.
9

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

15/07/2008 02:27:00
#4 I suppose you said the same when Burley drew his first friendly 0-0 in Ireland?
10

Raskolnikov,

15/07/2008 02:36:36
Even as a Celtic fan I think it's crazy to be too critical of this result. These pre-season 'bounce' games are all about training and match-practice. Hell, Rangers struggled to beat a 4th division German outfit. Dumfries Jambo - give the new manager a chance eh?
11

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

15/07/2008 02:46:23
#12 You're the one obsessed with other fans' teams - you tell me.
12

Raskolnikov,

15/07/2008 03:28:12
Yeah whatever Doris.
13

Bythelight76,

it's a secret 15/07/2008 03:43:18
I can't believe some of the posters on this board to be honest. The first friendly of the new season where we use several players in a few different experimental formations where (at this time of pre-season) the main objective is to work on fitness and some of you are already all doom and gloom.
It was probably a good learning experience for the new gaffer........ gave him a chance to see the players in a proper game before he starts deciding where things need to change....... if he's allowed to of course.
I for one will not be making too many rash predictions as to how our 08-09 campaign will go but I certainly won't be writing it off the way that tw@t dumfries jambo is.
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bring them on,

15/07/2008 04:47:35
Hearts should have played their socks off to lift morale.

Maybe they did, but this was their best effort...
15

r1niceboy,

Yankeeland 15/07/2008 05:08:26
Hearts always play crappy at the start of preseason away against some non-entity. I recall seeing them play against a canadian select and they were mince. I do agree they need to shed some dead wood, and bring in a talent or three, but I will give Laszlo a chance.
16

Dood,

15/07/2008 05:41:15
#20.

You should have just finished your post after typing "Hearts always play crappy".

Would have saved a lot of effort.
17

huggs,

15/07/2008 06:41:47
Dumfries Jambo
Calm down it was a friendly he used a lot of players and experimented with a formation,Give the man a chance slagging after one game in charge! That game doesnt mean anything get a grip
Fail to see how this was a sad day obviously the man must have learnt a lot
I would preffer this result to humping some part timers 5-0 and thinking we where world beaters
18

huggs,

Algeria 15/07/2008 06:44:54
Anyone know the story with Nade ?
19

Talk o' the Toun,

15/07/2008 06:50:21
USUAL Scotsman intro/negative slant ' FLAT START' etc corelate that with:'Hearts were dominant,the Belfast side were a decent test' 'Hearts were producing some neat football' (PARA 11 before worthy of a mention)

BTW Scotsman the 'somewhat unusual' formation of 4-2-3-1 was deployed by the majority of teams in the Euro championships(football has moved on from 2-3-5)

It was what it was : 1st preseason game to build fitness/get a game under the belt/asses players. Stage 2 on WED v Dunf.

Listened to Laszio on HEARTS news. More comment on team/his ideas etc that the last two years combined. Not only do i like what i here the communication is a welcome(albeit basic) improvement.

Long long way to go but encouraging early signs.

HHGH
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Mibo,

15/07/2008 07:32:18
Interesting comments here. When Hearts play first game it is all about systems,fitness etc and result doesn't matter. Contrast this with comments from Hearts fans on Hibs pre-season games. I think the Swedes with international players that have represented Sweden on more than 200 occasions might just shade the part timers of Glentoran when it comes to quality. Never mind Lazslo the Magician will come to the rescue.
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Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 07:35:48
#24 TOTT

Totally agree with everything you say there, especially the Interview from Csaba, very encouraging and good to listen to, the guy has ideas and is trying them out, and what better place to do it than pre-season, He's only had 2 training sessions before last nights game, he wants to assess all the players and decide where he needs to strengthen. Great to see so many young lads getting a run out last night. I also liked Csaba's approach to discipline, said it at the weekend when i commented he seems a stickler for discipline which is whats been badly needed for a season or 2.

About signings, he has made it clear he is allowed to choose who he wants which sounds encouraging as well.

New formation, team full of young lads, players tried in other positions. The result don't matter and its not worth reading anything into it, when you consider all the circumstances.
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born of hearts,

western australia 15/07/2008 07:37:37
If preseason tournaments are anything but a warm up for teams to get into the real business ahead maybe using another code as an example,an aussie rules team won the national preseason tournament 2 years on the trot and at the end of the real season 2 years running came last in the league,so any view on these results before the real comp. starts is not where the rest of the year can be judged.also as everyone who claims to be a hearts supporter must be disapointed with things (starting with the departure of gb )have they considered that a megalmaniac like vr is happy with the way things have gone since then under his control,i dont think so whatever he is i am sure he wants to be successful with hmfc.but i am not an "expert"like others who write in (its easy in the stand,easier in the lounge room).lets hope for a good 2008-2009
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Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 15/07/2008 07:48:39
25.Yes your right it was our first game.It was not a Euro match like the one Hibs tried to play in,but the best run team in Britain thought you can treat it like a training match after 2 weeks pre season and win.Who thought that one through?Was it Petrie for the small gate money?Was it Mixu because he has such talented players?Or was it a balls up from start to finnish.
24

Talk o' the Toun,

15/07/2008 07:48:49
#26 & 27 : good posts.

#25 Mibo: there is a difference between a pre season friendly/where Hearts used a half strengh team (designed to prepare for new season funnily enough!) & a INTERTO EURO game that Hibs entered /played their best 11.
However i agree will have little bearing on SPL.

BTW not suprised at reaction of 'some' HEARTS posters to Hibs defeat by ELFS but consider HIBS posters response to defeats to be well OTT 'overeaction'.
25

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 15/07/2008 07:49:59
Not over concerned about the result, given it was without KIngston and Berra, but what is depressing is looking at the team list as it stands.

These players failed last year, we need to get signing and we are unsure if Csaba has been given money or indeed freedom to start the signing process.
26

ozdon,

Melbourne Australia 15/07/2008 07:52:03
think about this boys, " One whose general is capable and not interfered with by the ruler will be victorious"

and Mad Vlad is the ruler
27

Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 07:54:02
#25

Hibs didnt play a team full of young kids, and didnt try out different formations/tactics. Hearts were missing their 3 best players Kingston,Berra and driver. However don't let these facts get in the way of you trying to compare the teams.
28

Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 07:55:51
#32
Sorry Driver played
29

Addie,

15/07/2008 07:57:05
Its a friendly and already people are getting uptight about this - #1 This is the first proper run out for the players and fitness matters not the result.



30

Mibo,

15/07/2008 08:17:06
#32&33 Yes and Hibs were without Benji and Zemmama, they also played Hanlon,Chisholm,McNeil, Makalamby, Fletcher who unless i am mistaken cannot really be termed pensioners. Interested to know how you come to the conclusion that Hibs did not try different tactics, formations over the two games? I noted from the game at ER that Hibs started with back four but went to back three when Jones went off injured and shuffled the pack in terms of personnel, so I'm not sure of your point.I was not comparing teams but more comparing quality of opposition and fact that the same people who gave Hibs flak for being beaten by "nobodies" are now finding positives from Hearts performance. I suppose it is the old story of the blinkered football fans and those tinted specs.
31

Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 08:26:35
#35

Hanlon,Chisholm,McNeil, Makalamby, Fletcher

How many First team games does each of these players have?

Fletcher alone has more first team games than, Glen,Thompson,Doherty and kelly combined.So Thats not even a plausible argument

Hobs changed formation because it was forced upon them, how many times does that happen to teams every week. Were talking about trying out a whole new system last night which hadnt been tried before, with players being tried out in positions there not used to.

Basically your aguments hold no water. To even try and compare the Hearts pre-season friendly with Hibs competative Intertattie match is idiotic.

The quality of opposition, maybe Elfs are slightly better than Glentoran player for player, However you have to compare the teams that went out against Elfs and Glentoran.

The real test comes when the season starts, not in meaningless pre-season friendlies. Hibs test started last week and ended on Saturday, Blame lack of fitness, or whatever, but why enter a competition if your not going to prepare for it? why embarass yourselves and Scotland by being humped out the Intertattie before the end of trades fortnight? Who do you blame for the embarassment? Mixu? (He could have had them back training earlier) or was it his tactical inability let the team down? Or his constant Hoofball and kick anything on the park tactics that let you down?
32

Scoop in the City,

15/07/2008 08:33:44
#25 Mibo - Grasping at straws here matey. Last night's game was a pre-season friendly with unlimited substitutions and treated as such. Hibs were horsed out of an offcial UEFA competition without scoring a goal - pre-season or not. Hibs chose to enter the inter-diddy - only themselves and Partick Thistle have ever chosen to try for this back door entry into Europe and both have had similar success rate. Need I also mention that Mixhoof has been in charge of your team for 6 months and has made his own signings - while Csaba has barely unpacked his bags.
33

Solymar 2,

Los Gigantes Santiago del Teide 15/07/2008 08:46:44
Well,
I was at the game and it was good fun.Hearts were well on top.Bit school boyish.Manager certainly vocal and seems he wants the players the same way.
I must say I liked the way he communicates.We used lads properly.We will not win the flag,I think,but I bet we put up a helluva fight in comparrison to last season.
34

Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

Melbourne 15/07/2008 08:49:20
#36,&37.

Contrary to what you would love Mibo to have said, he makes a very val point. His post was not about the players playing or the tactics or anything else. It was about the atitudes of the various posters on this site.

Hibs have played two competitive games against opposition that are in the middle of their league seasonand are flying high therein. We ot beat both games and slated by Hearts fans for those performances.

Hearts have played one pre-season friendly against another side that are ring rusty and in need of bounce games from a far lower placed league than Hibs opponents. THey got a draw and the same people that were slating Hibs for their results are taking positives from the Hearts one.

The word that Mibo refrains from using that I am only too happy to, is hypocracy.

Not sure if either of you were amongst the throng of nay-sayers on the Hibs threads the last couple of days but the point he makes is absolutely valid...
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Who?,

15/07/2008 09:01:51
An awful lot of NON hearts fans posting on here giving everybody an opinion about a game they never saw.

Poor headline from the scotsman too, Laszlo has been in charge since friday, probably met the players and observed training on saturday before taking over on sunday, not his team me thinks.

If he picks the team and if he is the one to sign the players then give him until the end of the first quarter before making a judgement.
37

Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 09:01:55
#40

I dont see hypocrisy at all. The situations are completely different, Tryng to compare them id like trying to compare salt and sugar. The very fact your using the Hearts fans posting about Hibs results against Elfs as your or Mibos reasoning for slating last nights result is proof in itself you are trying to compare the two.

Yes you got riped for being humped by Elfs, but who do you blame for that and why?

I asked valid questions without trying to be sarcastic.

Why enter the competition if you are not going to prepare properly for it? Yes Elfs season started a while ago, all the more reason that Mixu should have had your players in sooner, and maybe even played a bounce game or 2. We know fitness was a problem but that could have been adressed better.

A point i made last week was, that Intertattie game might even have cost Hibs money. less than 8000 at your home game, by the time police,stewards, officials, wages, and all overheads are covered for the first game, then the travel arrangements etc for the team are paid for for the return leg, you'll be lucky if you have made anything from it at all, in fact maybe even lost money. So why enter it if its not to be taken seriously? Or is Mixu that arrogant he thought you would win it no problem, or was his tactical inabilities that evident?
38

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 15/07/2008 09:08:40
The hobos have nothing to say, their comments are irrelevent.

As for the knuckledraggers - hmmmmm a 1-0 struggle against German 4th division Preussen at the weekend, hardly a stunning performance!

The Hearts team and subsiquent substitutions show that it was not much more than a kickabout for Hearts. I would expect the game against Dunfermline to say more about how Hearts will look under Shabba.
39

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 15/07/2008 09:10:34
Bublin - take you ill-informed sectarianism and stick it where the sun don't shine. You haven't got a clue about Hearts fans.
40

Around the Funnel,

15/07/2008 09:12:06
#41 Do you feel better now you've got that off your chest?

Very funny though.

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victorian of gorgie ,

15/07/2008 09:17:57
hibbies trying to compare their 4-0 aggregate horsing in a competitive european match with hearts meaningless pre-season friendly draw, the first match under a new manager who has barely had time to draw breath let alone familiarise himself with the players.

laughable.

this draw and subsequent penalty shoot out loss shouldn't really be any consolation to them for their own intertoto embarrassment, however bizarrely it will be for some.

not a bad start at all.

42

mon-the-hertz,

edinburgh 15/07/2008 09:22:07
Miko scores a 20 yarder - in for the season ;-)

Mibo scores OG
43

Glorious Hearts,

15/07/2008 09:25:36
What the hell are these people on about??
Since when did the result of the first pre-season friendly hold so much sway?

I don't care if Hibs went out the Intertoto, I don't care if Rangers won a pre-season friendly. So can anyone explain to me why so many fans of other teams pop a woody at us not winning a pre-season game?

Is Shabba's inability to create a world beating side after 3 full days in charge of great surprise to anyone?

From what I've read it sounded like a useful exercise, trying out a new formation, having a look at a lot of players etc

Anyone who sees this result as hugely important is, quite frankly, a moron.

Just for the record, if we'd won 5-0 I'd have said the same thing
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dumfries jambo,

15/07/2008 09:26:05
Most people have picked me up wrongly here, on no account was i having a pop at the manager, he has inherited this crop of players, i realise we have been asset stripped and our best players have gone, i only hope he sees that this bunch wont win anything and he makes the signings that will change our fortunes
45

Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 09:26:55
#47 Vic

Small man syndrome m8 thats what it is, the hobos that take greater pleasure in seeing Hearts fail or be beaten than seeing their own time winning is exactly what it is. If they concentrate on Hearts it means they dont have to worry about their own very evident problems down fester road way. A manager who has been in the Job 6 months and has a better record for losing than winning,and a record for being a dirty kick anything that moves team, has a complete lack of tactical know-how, Signs the likes of Van Zanten, (Who by all accounts was complete mince against Elfs) No decent players coming in to replace the ones leaving or that have left.

All of the above is worrying some hobos, but it seems there are many that prefer to use Hearts problems or try and grasp at any straws to hide the pain and worry of their own problems
46

LionheartFodithman,

15/07/2008 09:31:05
How bizarre.
Hobs gloating at the fact we lost a pre-season friendly on penalties.
Perhaps they have seen some signs coming out of Tynecastle that the tide may have turned and they wont be getting much opportunity to have a pop this coming season.
Perhaps the time has come for you guys to focus fully on your own team this year.
I think they are going to require your unconditional attention to get anything positive out of the coming season.

Good luck Hobos !!
47

victorian of gorgie ,

15/07/2008 09:34:29
#52 GF, you're not wrong mate, you're not wrong.

i'm becoming more and more optimistic about the new season and beyond. we obviously need to make some good signings, not least in the striker department. just as importantly we should be cutting out all the snash players to free up squad places and precious wages. i am hopeful that both will happen.

onwards and upwards for the bigger team.

48

GrahamL,

15/07/2008 09:36:39
Barring Berra and Kingston, that starting line up isn't a million miles away from what I'd have picked. Right now we're very strong in midfield and woefully short up front, we need to get a couple of capable strikers in, cos Nade and the young guys aren't going to do the job over the season.
And, yeah, can't read anything into a pre-season match - neither sides at full strength and our managers only been in for 5 minutes. Csaba continues to be making the right noises, but it's too early to see whether his actions will correspond to his talk. So far, jury still well and truly out on him, but encouraging thus far.
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victorian of gorgie ,

15/07/2008 09:37:59
#53 LF, perhaps it's time for them to start thinking about protests, boycotts, hands off hibs campaign, ousting the board, standing up for themselves even.

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Mibo,

15/07/2008 09:44:32
#47&52 - Last nights result no consolation to me. As for comparison between quality of opposition,it certainly seems to have attracted considerable retort. GF getting a bit hot under the collar are we not? Can any Hearts fan explain what you base your new found optimism on. The starting line up last night looks familiar to last season so whose influence was behind initial team selection now that Frail is away? Regardless of pre-season or not in the past I certainly would expect any Hearts team to be able to beat part timers from NI at any time of the season so puzzled by the new confidence from some posters
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LionheartFodithman,

15/07/2008 09:45:28
#57 VI
Good point VI.
Its time for the Hobs to stand up and be counted,get their heeds out of the sand.
Put a stop to the dictatorship and end the asset stripping.

Hobo worms.
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LionheartFodithman,

15/07/2008 09:46:56
#59
Good supporters always try and be positive about their team.If your not then whats the point ?
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Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 09:47:23
#57 Vic

Hobos protesting? It'll never happen there happy with mid table mediocrity and supporting a club that shows no ambition.

As for boycotts, They wouldnt work, theres never enough of them go to games to notice if theres a boycott taking place or not...in fact you could say every gam for them is like a boycott.

Ousting the board? never there happy with pinch a penny petrie, after all he has them running as the best financially opertated club in Scotland, its just a shame you dont get prizes or league titles for that honour.
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15/07/2008 09:51:05
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15/07/2008 09:52:17
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Jambo-ree,

15/07/2008 09:52:49
#59 Ah, so we failed to come up to YOUR expectations ergo must be a failure? Desperate or what? Enjoy it while you can as their are signs of the pendulum swinging back.
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GrahamL,

15/07/2008 09:53:39
#59 "The starting line up last night looks familiar to last season so whose influence was behind initial team selection now that Frail is away?"

You are aware that we can only pick the players who play for us aren't you?
While it would have been nice to Cech, Ronaldinho and Ronaldo on the pitch they're not our players.
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GrahamL,

15/07/2008 09:58:29
#64 Are they Riley? Are they really?
Or did you post that on their site?

You can tell us the truth. We won't judge you.
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LionheartFodithman,

15/07/2008 10:03:14
HUMP THE FLUMP
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victorian of gorgie ,

15/07/2008 10:03:28
#59 mibo, the team had a familiar look about it because there haven't been any new signings and there aren't really many other players who could have been played. in time i'm sure all hearts fans want to see some new faces appear. being optimistic isn't just about seeing an immediate influx of players who didn't play under frail, it's also about looking forward to seeing a manager work with all the players, using what will hopefully be a far superior knowledge of the game than the previous manager had, better training, technical coaching, tactical nous.

there is optimism in the air in gorgie and it wont be dissipated by any amount of negativity blown in from leith.

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Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 10:05:33
#68

Graham, waste of time asking him anything, he wont reply, because most of the time he cant reply to his lies. He tells that many he forgets what is a lie or not, his own fantasy land of being a businessman, with a yacht, and properites abroad etc are all very real to him in his mind. Even though everyone on this site knows he is talking utter bull.

Ill await the usual non-original reply with venom from him....as once again his integrity is shot to pieces.....like he ever had any integrity to begin with mind
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GrahamL,

15/07/2008 10:06:08
#70 You know what Riley?
I've got better things to do with my time than trailing through fans websites of clubs I don't support in the hope of picking up a tiny bit of news most likely posted by an emotionally stunted twelve year old.

Why don't you get one of your staff to look it up and post it here for us all to enjoy?
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Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 10:08:47
#75

That would be a good idea, if only the Glentoran website had a forum on it m8. However it doesn't so once again as i said previously Riley is found lying.
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GrahamL,

15/07/2008 10:11:04
#74 I know I shouldn't rise to it, but there's part of me who like to keep him hanging on round here, thinking he's getting to us. The longer it goes on the more embarrassed he'll be about the amount of time he's wasted when he finally grows up and realised what a tool he's being.
We've currently got Serg as the current runaway leader in the "wasting their life on the Hearts stories" championship. I reckon with careful nuturing Riley could surpass her...
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victorian of gorgie ,

15/07/2008 10:12:52
he's waging a cyber-war you know?

ha ha ha haaaaaaaa!!!!!

no really.

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Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 10:14:46
#78

Haha a cyber-war....well he's just been cyber-nuked from these forums by the looks of it, so he's not doing to well.
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victorian of gorgie ,

15/07/2008 10:15:52
#79 GF, ha haaa!!! so i see. cyber-splatted again biley.

HEEEEE HAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW!!!!!

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InTheBackPocket,

15/07/2008 10:34:58
Doubt if anything Edinburgh way will trouble the Weegies again this year.

What odds can you get for Laszlo lasting the full season?
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 15/07/2008 10:45:43
"Hearts were producing some neat football, sliding the ball around the impeccable surface and controlled most of the play. But Laszlo replaced Driver with Kestutis Ivaskevicius, such was the tenacity of some challenges"

Although the reapearance of the useless ivaskevicius concerns me again this season, I at least think that Laslo wanted to see every player before making decisions... Also perhaps this is a good use of him: A sort of stooge to be put on to protect good players like Driver when the challenges are a bit 'meaty'... Might even put him out for the rest of the season.
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huggs,

15/07/2008 10:48:00
Did Dublin Hibs take any of those bets yesterday or os he full of hot air?
Is Mibo the new Riley?
Are the Hobos going to wake up and sack the board?
Another good day to be a jambo

HHGH
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Lenny,

15/07/2008 10:52:31
Gorgie's Finest

It sure is nice to see the Jambo's all happy again. Amazing what a wee Hibs defeat can do mate eh. Even a draw against Glentoran is positive!?

Needs to be taken in perspective however. I have been interested to note the other Premier teams results in their first pre-season friendlies. Hearts draw with Glentoran and Dun Utd get beat but some part time team. Even Rangers strugle to win against Herman Munsters 11. Makes the absolute slating Hibs received after getting beaten by a team halfway through their season and full of Internationals pretty strange indeed.

Lets leave it a few weeks before getting all excited mate eh. We are frustrated, but not all us 'Hobos' are getting top the stage of protests just yet.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 15/07/2008 10:52:34
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Alright lads.

Anyone at the game? I was not but Mark Donaldson was less than impressed by Zaliukas and I see that Ketstutis is again in the squad.

No Berra i can understand but where was Larry? I missed that one, injured or in Ghana?

Also where is Jamie macDonald? Is he coming back from QOS?... Has to be better than Basso.

I see Miko scored too, what was his all round performance like?

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Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 11:02:30
#92 Lenny

No-ones getting excited m8, Except the hibs fans that decided to try and compare the games and had the audacity to try and even slate Hearts for the result last night.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 15/07/2008 11:03:30
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Alright Lenny,

Dunno about happy exactly but I would describe myself as optimistic.

The feel good factor is not solely down to Hibs losing two COMPETITIVE games but has more to do with the debt reduction, the community award and the arrival of a manager.

People could pick faults with all of the above as it seems to the fashion these days to do just that with Carte Blanch but to those of us who have been following this soap opera from the closest angle with an eagle eye we can see these things for what they are... Encouraging.

Hibs were always going to lose a competitive gave against decent opposition when playing pre-season against a team that is coming towards the end of their season... This was always going to happen but after the b0llox we have had to suffer in recent times... We are going to revel in it and send it back to the f4nnies that are all over our every move with misinformed bu11 sh1t.

I say optimistic but this could very easily change again if the reccuring problem of players being picked for their nationalities continues and we see Zaliukas and Ivaskevicius as first team regulars again this season... There is no way a decent manager would ever pick these two guys as first team players.

RE: The other friendlies you refer to were just that... non competitive.
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Lenny,

15/07/2008 11:05:51
GF

And why cant the games be compared? They are are both our first games back. I imagine that many of the Hibees that have been ripping Hearts (myself not included) have been doing so in retaliation to the hysteria that surrounded Hibs getting beat.
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Lenny,

15/07/2008 11:11:52
Jamboy

Alright bud, just thought I would give my a take on it.

Yes, the Hibs games were competetive, but only just. Imo entering this comp has been a disaster. There is no way Hibs could compete with Elfsberg after being back training for a week. All entering this comp has done has opened the club up to critisisim from our own fans and riducule from the Jambo's.

As I said I am frustrated, but not overly stressed yet. There is plenty time for signings to be made. If no signings are made I will be very stressed indeed!!!

re Hearts, far to early to comment. Time will tell. My money would still be on your boss getting sacked before Mixu ; )
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LionheartFodithman,

15/07/2008 11:17:29
#96 Lenny
I dont think there was a great deal of hysteria surrounding the mauling you got by the saunaboys.
It was more about a bit of payback to do with the moronic element of your support that spew on the Hearts related stories day in day out with the same crappage(you get my drift).
Lots of decent posters have stopped using these boards & most have had to change names because of your devient chums.
To be fair you and a few others seem like decent chaps.
The rest could do with a toe up the chorus.

So excuse a bit aping on our part,iam afraid you deserve it.
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Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 11:23:56
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Ok m8 you want to compare them, what there to compare?

Hearts field a very young inexperienced team, use up all substitutes, try out a completely new system, players are tested in completle new positions and roles. A manager who has had 3 days with the team and only 2 days training sessions.

Hibs field their strongest 11, With a manager who has been in charge for 6 months so should by now know the players strengths and weakness's, who should also know what system to play to get the best from his team, who knew you had a competative European match coming up and did nothing about it to improve your chances.

Theres the comparison m8, not much to compare is there, its like black and white. So what glentoran are not as strong as Elfs, so what they have just started pre-season as well, they have played UEFA cup matches plenty times so are not the inexperienced no-bodys some hibs fans would likt to portray them as. In fact I would go as far to say theres every chance in the last 5-10 years Glentoran may have played more UEFA cup games than Hibs.
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Lenny,

15/07/2008 11:24:23
Lionheart

"devient chums." Not mine mate, I take exception to that...

Fair points you make though.
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rosco.1875,

15/07/2008 11:24:55
Cheeky swines ripping the Hibs btw. Cuffed fae some Irish part-timers! GIRUY. Pre-season I know, but we got beat from a team streets ahead of this mob.

Cue the new batch of believers because Vlads put a new puppet in place. You really do deserve what comes your way. Chumps.
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Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 11:27:50
#101 Lenny

Post #102 is an example of the morons that cause Hearts fans to retaliate or give abuse back when something doesnt quite go Hibs way.....
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Lenny,

15/07/2008 11:28:22
Gorgie's Finest,

Think you are being a bit pedantic mate. The comparison is that it was our FIRST game back. Teams are always rusty and take a bit of time to get into the swing of things. AND I am not only talking about your game, as I said, look at all the other teams first games back.

I appreciate you played young players, possibly new formations etc etc and that it was only a friendly. I was mearly talking about the fitness/mental comparison.
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Bigwull,

edinburgh 15/07/2008 11:29:49
102 aren't that what the hobos are "Irish part timers"
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rosco.1875,

15/07/2008 11:30:33
#104, chase yerself. Been posting on here for bout 2 yrs, not so much recently because it has just got silly. Been saying the same stuff aw this time aswell.

If you know your history n aw that.
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Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 11:32:46
#105 Lenny

I have agreed with you in the past about the fitness and mental preperations and lack of, regarding Hibs first game. My whole point however has always been, you knew that game was coming up why not prepare better for it? why enter the competition in the first place? Its a proper UEFA competition which can get you entry into the UEFA cup. Hibs entered this competition surely in the hope they would gain entry to the UEFA so why not prepare better. Surely someone has to take responsibility for that?
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victorian of gorgie ,

15/07/2008 11:33:14
#102 rosco, cuffed? aw naw, cuffed 1-1 again.

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Gorgie's Finest,

15/07/2008 11:36:39
#110 Vic

I know m8, if 1-1 is a cuffing Id hate to think what he thinks of a 4-0 aggregate mauling...Hibs seem to quite like 4-0 defeats don't they?
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LionheartFodithman,

15/07/2008 11:36:40
#101 Lenny
I can understand your objection to my use of the words "devient chums".
But it would be easy for you to criticise the undesirables on these boards that look for their fellow teams fans for support.

Therefore if you remain shtoom when these ejits are representing your club then you will be tarred with the same manky brush i am afraid.