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Little room left for manoeuvre while the club's debt stands at £24m



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Published Date: 25 September 2008
HEARTS were heavily in debt when Vladimir Romanov took a controlling interest in the club in 2005, and they remain heavily in debt today. The key difference between now and then is that whereas under former principal shareholder Chris Robinson they were mainly indebted to Halifax Bank of Scotland (HBOS), their primary creditor now is Romanov's own company, Ukio Bankas Investment Group (UBIG).
For as long as UBIG is able and willing to underwrite Hearts, the club is safe. The ability may have been called into question by last week's non-payment of players' wages, but the willingness was restated in emphatic terms at the end of July, when a
n emergency general meeting of shareholders approved a £12million debt-for-equity conversion.

Put simply, this meant that more than 34 million new shares were created in Hearts, and that UBIG took control of the lot. The new shares diluted the holdings of existing shareholders, but with Romanov by far and away the biggest shareholder, the move had no effect on his control of the club.

As a result of the new shares being issued in exchange for debt, the club's debt went down from a last reported figure of £36m to £24m. Everything else being equal, the position will be further improved in the next set of results, which will include the transfer of goalkeeper Craig Gordon to Sunderland for £9m.

The long-term plan of Romanov and his UBIG colleagues is to move Hearts into profitability, but even when the money for Gordon is factored in, the club will still have a debt which it is impossible to see it trading its way out of anytime soon. Indeed, UBIG's project of building a new main stand at Tynecastle foresees that debt increasing massively before steps are taken to drive it down again.

Romanov believes that major success on the field will increase revenue from several different areas, including gate receipts, sponsorship deals, merchandising and the sale of broadcasting rights. But recent cost-cutting in the playing squad has left that success appearing as far away as ever.

Under new manager Csaba Laszlo the team has performed better this season than last and at present sit in third place in the SPL. But the current side does not compare favourably to the squad which hit the top of the league under George Burley in the early stages of the 2005-6 season.

Although some young players have shown promise, none has yet displayed the kind of form and talent which saw Gordon's value in the market rise dramatically. Christophe Berra, the club captain, and Andrew Driver, a winger, have attracted interest from English clubs this year, but the sums mentioned have been £1.5million and £750,000 respectively, not enough to make much impact on the current scale of Hearts' finances.

If UBIG withdrew its support or was unable to continue its support, and Hearts were forced to repay their debts, the sale of leading players would not be enough. They would then have to consider the "solution" offered by Robinson – the sale of Tynecastle itself.

Given the current contraction of the property market, however, there is no guarantee that selling the ground would be enough to balance the books. A sum upward of £20m was the going rate when the Hearts board under Robinson agreed to sell it to a property-developing group, but the rate of construction of new houses has gone down considerably since then due to the credit crunch.





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  • Last Updated: 24 September 2008 11:40 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
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25/09/2008 00:20:26
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Cammy,

Edinburgh 25/09/2008 00:37:58
Even as a Hibby, I can see how slanted and childish this article is.

The situation with Hearts is clear to all. Romanov can, and will, do whatever he wants with them. That's the same with every clubs owner.

I wouldn't swap them, but they're not any worse off financially than they were before Mr Barking Mad came along.
3

Jambo-Fi-SectionG,

Edinburgh 25/09/2008 00:46:51
You might want to include the fact we sold Gordon and Bednar which comes to more than £10million

That figure was discluded in the last financial year as they happened too late so must be taken into account after we said we were £36million in debt.
Now take into account the fact we turned £12million into shares, thus saving a further £600,000 annually on payments and interest owed to Ubig, not bad going there...

36-10=26-12=14million

Mr Bathgate, either you're maths isn't very good or you just decided to ignore pretty important facts!!!
4

thepundit,

25/09/2008 00:57:36
#3

so do you think that the gordon and bednar money will go straight towards debt?

what about the running costs of hearts over the last 12 months?

what about the fact that hearts are paying wages that are well above their means?

think about it

if hearts' debt is 14m next year i'll be in shock because its impossible
5

thepundit,

25/09/2008 01:09:18
#6 lol

im not suprised as half of them probably dont have a bank account...

i think its a case of they just dont want to believe it

well, gretna fans didnt want to believe it either...
6

Giuseppe Tortolano,

25/09/2008 01:37:20
#3

"You might want to include the fact we sold Gordon and Bednar which comes to more than £10million"

Erm, he did:

" As a result of the new shares being issued in exchange for debt, the club's debt went down from a last reported figure of £36m to £24m. Everything else being equal, the position will be further improved in the next set of results, which will include the transfer of goalkeeper Craig Gordon to Sunderland for £9m."

Did you actually read the article before slating it or are you just one of these jambos whose default position is the anti-Hearts propaganda/poor journalism standpoint.

Oh, and it IS newsworthy, no matter what any of you say. The funds were obviously not there or the can be cleared within 1 working day so there is definitely something fishy going on.


Why no posts at #1, #5 & #7 ???



7

Giuseppe Tortolano,

25/09/2008 01:38:34
and #4 & #6 as well.

Very strange..................
8

thepundit,

25/09/2008 01:45:17
poster #3 i have a song for you:

we are the angry mob
we read the papers every day
we like who we like
we hate who we hate
but we're all so easily swayed

(kaiser chiefs)
9

Jambo-Fi-SectionG,

25/09/2008 01:48:18
#8

My point was our debt does not stand at £24million it stands at £14million

Hearts as a company sold assets worth over £10million therefore those asset sales will be credited to our debt.

Fact is this headline is meant to cause a negatve spin over an otherwise more positive truth...
10

thepundit,

25/09/2008 01:53:04
#11

rangers made 30m last year from our european run and the sale of alan hutton yet our debt went up by 5m to 21m from 16m

shouldnt we not be in any debt at all going by your theory?
11

thepundit,

25/09/2008 01:59:14
"If UBIG withdrew its support or was unable to continue its support, and Hearts were forced to repay their debts, the sale of leading players would not be enough. They would then have to consider the "solution" offered by Robinson – the sale of Tynecastle itself"

lets for talking sake say the debt was 14m, would the sale of hearts' players be able to pay off even that amount?

hearts' best player is berra and he's only worth about 1.5m but teams are aware that hearts urgently need to sell so he'd probably go for about 1m at most

and the rest of the squad would be sold for a knock off price too

one things for sure, it wouldnt add up to 14m
12

Jambo-Fi-SectionG,

25/09/2008 02:01:45
#12

I get my numbers from the annual accounts I receive.

There's no numbers floating around.

13# Probably because you spent x amount in the transfer window, possibly bonuses and wages, I don't know, if you were a shareholder you would know though wouldn't you...

Oh and the £52million being spent on the new stand will in the likelyhood be an investement made my Ubig on theirselves effectively, especially seeing as our overdraft limit is £40million but we're a part of the same company so it really makes no difference.

Ubig will be looking for a return but that will depend on success from Hearts which is the goal, and we won't exactly be paying interest and payments for the £52million

13

Jambo-Fi-SectionG,

25/09/2008 02:05:48
#14
How do you withdraw your support if you own that business?

They are not simply a lending bank, they are part of a group which we branch from.
And the idea of a company willing to spend £52million on a stand/hotel etc wanting to withdraw is ludicrous unless something really bad happens over a short period of time which may well happen...

The idea of them withdrawing from us tho is a mouthwatering theory created by our rivals, nothing more nothing less
14

thepundit,

25/09/2008 02:13:04
#15

"Probably because you spent x amount in the transfer window, possibly bonuses and wages"

so who is to say that the hearts debt will be 14m then?

do they not pay wages or apply a bonus?

#16

i believe the quote say "If UBIG withdrew its support or was unable to continue its support"

did you see that last bit? unable to continue?
15

Cammy,

Edinburgh 25/09/2008 03:16:30
Hearts are not a business. There is no cash flow and the owner who pays the increasing debt (to himself) with shares that don't exist until he prints them.

No matter how you juggle that facts, it's not a business, merely a play thing for a mad Russian bloke who thinks he's a football expert.

I pity the Hearts fans who are stuck with a club owner who doesn't deserve their loyalty.
16

Aitchie,

Craig Gordon Stand 25/09/2008 03:20:35
#19 - have you moved from Craigleith to Edinburgh?
17

DekNZ,

25/09/2008 04:30:01
So the hvns debt is thepundit's debt according to his post! Him & bring them on f4nnies!

"rangers made 30m last year from our european run and the sale of alan hutton yet our debt went up by 5m to 21m from 16m"
18

thepundit,

25/09/2008 04:38:06
#21

do you never refer to your club as 'we' or the national team as 'us'

obviously not...
19

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 25/09/2008 07:56:52
I've seen some pretty vitriolic stuff coming from Bathgate in the past, but this is a pretty fair article.
It is a fact that the value of the land will not be as high as it would have been, say, a year ago.
Nor is it ridiculous to imagine the stadium development being put on hold.
However this would be the case for any club right now, so what is it all about?
Some seem to be desperate to see HMFC go to the wall, others like Bathgate appear to hate Romanov so much that they revel in any "misfortune" or perceived problems at the club.
The rank and file fans meanwhile, support and defend the club where possible.
The club is not Romanov, in the same way that is was not "Pie Man". It is like a Caravan passing through the desert, now and again a mad dog will take a bite at one of the Camels, but the Caravan moves on.
Roll on the Derby game.
20

Scoop in the City,

25/09/2008 08:13:46
Usual negative stuff from Bathgate. If Ubig withdrew their support - Hearts would have to repay the debts". Eh? - right. And the difference between that situation and any other club / person / business that loses the support of it's bankers, is what exactly?

I guess that Bathgate is still upset about Vlad's peanut and banana breakfast.
21

Big Mo,

edinburgh 25/09/2008 08:14:43
Can someone confirm how much Sunderland actually paid for Gordon? It was 'reported' as £9m but shortly after the move I am sure that Mr Keane let slip in a interview with Sky that 'when you pay £7m for a goalie...". Was it £7m with additions to eventually take it to £9m or what, does anyone have definative answer?
22

Talk o' the Toun,

25/09/2008 08:17:08
SCORCHIO: do you think so?

Better & more informative postings on the forumns over the last couple of days from ,laymen, IMO Bathgate states the blindingly obvious.

CAMMY: yoor posts sum things up fairly.

Despite the totally unacceptable wages senario HMFC remain as secure as UBIG....therein lies good journalism....get someone objective & knowlegable to investigate/apprais same.

23

Talk o' the Toun,

25/09/2008 08:19:31
Big MO: there was an initial payment then a balance. HEARTS accounts clearly states total & timings of same(accounts in house so cannot quote) but no doubt added up to £9m
24

The Wookie,

Edinburgh 25/09/2008 08:38:10
All a lot of words Mr Bathgate - but all about nothing.....

I'm still waiting to read the report about Hibs being 24 hours late on paying their staff a few months ago..

But unfortunatly again - no real story either....

25

Indy Rep Kid...,

25/09/2008 08:40:28
puntwat/Son of Mong......

you don't have a clue so:

"The game is over, why don;t you go home?"

Enjoyed your medley of Rule Britannia, God Save The Queen, No Surrender and the Famine Song last night.

I would personally never tire of firebombing those cvnts, if i'm being honest. A few innocents may get it but that's all part of the peace process, i'm afraid.
26

Hoogel,

25/09/2008 09:00:07
I think the point that everyone is missing is that if Ubig no longer underwrite Hearts debt or can see no end game in terms of repayment, then they will have to look at ways of getting the money back. This would involve redundancies, selling assets etc.
I do not wish this on Hearts and whilst there is nothing the supporters can do at present, other than go to games and support the team, it should not mean it is ignored.
27

Talk o' the Toun,

25/09/2008 09:12:48
Hoogel: correct other than it is not ignored....highlighted by me on several occasions.

IMO now a likely senarion. Hopefully will instigate a sale of the club incl assets(primarily tynecastle)to a genuine party(not someone trying to get the land on the cheap)as opposed too selling off the intangible assets(ie the players)
28

Indy Rep Kid...,

25/09/2008 09:19:43
#32

Hoogel:

The vast majority of clubs are on a shoogly-peg and rely on the goodwill of either a benefactor or bank.

Hearts are just on a shooglier-peg than most!

However, the same could be said for Chelsea - Abramovich LOANED them £700m, that can be called in with 18 months notice, and he continues to fund expenses that the club simply cannot recoup through the turnstiles etc
29

VictorianGorgie,

25/09/2008 09:23:47
there seem to be a lot of issues being poured over in great detail as a direct result of the wages 'crisis'. it doesn't seem as if some people are content to examine that issue on a stand-alone basis, no no no, all the other junk has got to be dragged out of the closet and obsessed over while the current 'open season' is in full swing.

this isn't news, it's yet another confirmation of things we already know about and have discussed many many times.

on the plus side, at least you get pretty accurate facts and figures, unlike other gutter sources.

30

Edinburgh's Big Team,

EH11 25/09/2008 09:30:48
The fact remain that UBIG's trading figures for the last 6 months to June were extremely encouraging. Unless there has been a marked turnaround in the last 3 months then we have no reason to believe the company has any problems. Indeed Ukios capital to assets ratio puts UK banks to shame and as a smaller bank will have less exposure to toxic sub prime mortgage books from USA, therefore write downs should also be minimal.

In a nutshell there is no evidence to suggest that the UBIG group, of which the bank is part of, has anything other than a set of healthy finances. A misunderstanding over overdraft limits is highly feasible given the problems and takeover of HBOS. The reason it took a week to sort is also plausible since you are relying on transfering funds from Ukio to HBOS and then from HBOS to individual current accounts. Is anyone telling me HBOS with there financial worries would pay the cost of paying everyones salaries by CHAPS as oppose to BACS. If its by BACS then the instruction will take 3-5 working days so in effect even Ukio correcting the issue on Fri last week would result in salaries being paid a week late.

It was a non story last week and its a non story this week. The media appear to be loving the drama of the credit crunch but some irresponsible reporting is simpling heightening consumer alarm which amplifies the problem.
31

sangriaboy,

malaga 25/09/2008 09:34:12
The crux of theis whole affair about money is that the banks are not lending to each other.
So as its happening Romanovs mob have no money and cannot get any from other banks,so I dont need to tell you whats gonna happen.

Sit back and enjoy the ride guys....and remember the Scottish cup win in 2006 as the most expenisve ever in football history.

as they say here in Spain...Adios!
32

sangriaboy,

malaga 25/09/2008 09:36:13
The fact remain that UBIG's trading figures for the last 6 months to June were extremely encouraging. Unless there has been a marked turnaround in the last 3 months then we have no reason to believe the company has any problems. Indeed Ukios capital to assets ratio puts UK banks to shame and as a smaller bank will have less exposure to toxic sub prime mortgage books from USA, therefore write downs should also be minimal.


Are you serious mate...a marked turnaround in the last 3 months...have you been sleeping or are you simply just thick?
33

Dood,

25/09/2008 09:41:56
Agree with #2

Frankly, as a Hibbie, this whole saga now bores me to tears.

Lets face it, you can speculate all you want - Only Vlad really knows what's going on. All the guff that gets spouted over these threads, from both sides, is now seriously tiresome. The media is equally culpable for fanning the flames and is equally tiresome.

Can we not just put it to bed and start on petty football realted squabbles again? I mean, I haven't seen a post for weeks now where a Yam makes up a really amusing nickname deriding a Hibbies looks, name etc....

Oh, how I yearn for those days.
34

VictorianGorgie,

25/09/2008 09:48:46
#39 dood, well said. it's an indictment on the whole sorry saga that now even the hibs fans are bored to tears with it.

35

Edinburgh's Big Team,

EH11 25/09/2008 09:54:51
Sangriaboy

Thick? the credit crunch started last September so what evidence do u have of a marked turnaround in the last 3 months. You obviously dont work in the sector you ill-informed little scroat!

You're only insight is reading papers with an agenda to dramatise - so who's thick? Knob
36

Silence of the Yams,

25/09/2008 10:47:09
Hertz are a club in crisis methinks. Tick tock!!!
37

VictorianGorgie,

25/09/2008 10:56:02
#42, yes we've witnessed your attempts at thinking before. that tick-tock sound aint coming from your heid is it?

38

Silence of the Yams,

25/09/2008 11:05:40
43. If feel your pain, Yam. Enjoy that last 24 hours of HOMFC.
39

VictorianGorgie,

25/09/2008 11:11:07
#44, ehhh yep, thanks for coming.

40

santa cova,

London calling! 25/09/2008 20:04:13
Could this be the end of Tincastle.If it is ,it will mean that the remaining couple of hundred mugs who still support Fearts will then have no choice but to make their way to sectarian central in the govan scrapyard to support their cousins. Sad! very Sad.

 

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