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Nine out of ten Hearts fans want Roman out



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Published Date: 23 April 2008
By Stuart Bathgate
MORE than 90 per cent of voters on a Hearts supporters' website poll want Roman Romanov to stand down as chairman of the Tynecastle club.
The poll, on hmfckickback.co.uk, asks "Should Roman Romanov continue in his role as chairman and interim chief executive?" Last night just under nine per cent of respondents had said yes, with the vast majority believing it was time for him to go.

The vote, which is open only to registered users of the site, was begun after Romanov's performance at Hearts' annual general meeting last Friday. His remarks, which included the claim that the SPL is corrupt, have brought him to the attention of the authorities, but for some supporters it was his attitude at the agm which was the real source of annoyance.

Romanov, the son of Hearts owner Vladimir Romanov, has been seen at Tynecastle only rarely over the past 12 months, having apparently been working on other business projects. Neither father nor son attended Hearts' home game the day after the agm, when they beat St Mirren 3-2 in their first ever fixture in the SPL's post-split bottom six.

Meanwhile, Hearts midfielder Bruno Aguiar has targeted a return to first-team action this season after ending his 12-month absence in a reserve match.

The 27-year-old came off the bench in his side's reserve defeat by Dundee United as he continued his comeback following ankle surgery. The former Benfica player now hopes to play in the Premier League before Hearts end their season against Gretna on 17 May.

"I was delighted to get 25 minutes," said Aguiar. "I am very happy to be back playing as I have been out for a very long time, almost a year.

"It was a bad time for me but I always believed I would get back playing and now I just want more games. The target is to get back into the first team this season but I will have to wait and see what happens.

"My aim is to play for the first team if at all possible this season, get a good summer behind me and come back strong for the start of the new campaign."





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  • Last Updated: 22 April 2008 10:18 PM
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23/04/2008 00:06:49
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jambtastic,

23/04/2008 01:13:57
You must be toiling to fill space in your sports section today with this article , what a load of tripe
Jambos Kickback only represents a few hundred Hearts fans view including many infiltrators from various other fans of different teams having a laugh . This is chaep journalism when you gather information and statistics from fans forums , ha ha does Stuart Bathgate buy his lunch in Greggs by any chance .
3

Brian-still-Hearts-mad-after-all-those-years,

Sydney 23/04/2008 01:17:45
Are you listening, Vladimir?
Is anyone listening?
4

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

23/04/2008 01:42:22
#2
"including many infiltrators from various other fans of different teams having a laugh"

That will be the 10% then who think he's doing a damn fine job.

SAME RULES APPLY !!!
5

Aitchie,

Craig Gordon Stand 23/04/2008 01:53:03
3 out of 5 Scotsman readers think that Stuart Bathgate has written a gash article. Readers who post on the Scotman's forum were quick to comment on the supposedly lazy journalism from Mr Bathgate.

"It just about sums up what the Scotsman has become," said Aitchie in his posting, "lazy and boring."
6

Peter Wyngarde,

23/04/2008 05:12:29
Well, of course, getting Roman out will solve everything down Tynecastle way won't it (insert appropriate smiley here)...

"after ending his 12-month absence in a reserve match" - 12 months is a long time to be hiding in a reserve match for...
7

flecktimus,

23/04/2008 06:21:05
In reference to RR performance at the AGM i believe it was the performance his father was looking for.They used the oldest tricks in the book to deflect away from the real questions.How many people reading this can remember the union meetings during the 70s & 80s.
So how would RR do this,by simply saying things they thought the fans wanted to hear and would wind up the west of Scotland press.
Eg
1)Refs have cost us 15 points . We love that one
2)SPL is corrupt. Press loves that one

Now since the AGM the above Eg have made the headlines

BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What about the question of the £3.7m transfers?
£2.5m rise in players wages?
The whole question of the financial mismanagement of HMFC.

None of these questions have been publicly debated due to the frenzy amongst football supporters and the press to talk about refs and corruption in the Scottish game.
8

Catholic Jambo,

edin 23/04/2008 06:28:26
#5 Aitchie agree now 5 out of 7 think Bathgate should go! How low can this downmarket tabloid go?

The problem of RR being a non attendant Chairman with ZERO influence on our future who is rolled out once a year & makes a t!t of himself(& the club) is not something to loose sleep over.(or make a headline over;NOTE BATHGATE!!!)
9

Catholic Jambo,

edin 23/04/2008 06:54:24
#7 Where have you been?

'none of these issues have beeb publicly debated'

This particular 'rag' has debated virtually nothing else.
No credence given to subsequent WEBSITE clarification (which IMO undermines your opinion thet Vlad orchestrated the shambolic AGM)incl minimal reference to restructuring the dedt.

10

flecktimus,

23/04/2008 07:01:21
#9 Reading all the trash like the above article
11

Houstonhibee,

23/04/2008 07:21:39
I for one vote for RR to remain in his current role. The slower Hertz go under the better. Dont want it to happen quickly.
12

Catholic Jambo,

edin 23/04/2008 07:22:59
#10 fair comment. My apologies you are correct; articles that are not objective and fueled by an anti ROMANOV agenda cannot be considered as debating.

The current Scotsmans articles = a potent advert for reading the Herald

#11 i bet you do !!! Instigated by your inferiority complex.
13

Jan Cowskaz,

23/04/2008 07:23:49
Lame article right enough but Roman clearly isn't interested, Vlad seems to enjoy football but Romans only interests in Edinburgh would be down Waverley or Haymarket taking train numbers
14

Houstonhibee,

23/04/2008 07:32:11
#12 Nothing inferior about being a Cabbage fan and lapping up all the turmoil going on with the Scumbos. Gretna apart, you are the laughing stock of scotland.
15

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 23/04/2008 07:41:36
Will the powers that be, at "The Scotsman", please arrange for this "journalist" to get a long holiday.
He's cracking up!
I'm going to post a poll on "Boys in Maroon" asking...
Is Stuart Bathgate a petty, wee nyaff?
16

Langenburger,

23/04/2008 07:48:59
Come on Jambos - focus!
Don't shoot the messenger. Just be happy he is keeping it in the public domain and allowing genuine fan insights as well as the usual scentmarkers to post.
With the figures behind Gretna coming out today and with my predictin that they won't finish the season then maybe we have real issues to discuss.
We will be bust and we will be homeless.
Thanks Mr Bathgate - this will soon be the only story in town.
17

SirSerg',

23/04/2008 07:51:01
9 out of 10 FBK Kauno fans want Roman to stay at HoM.
18

Dood,

23/04/2008 08:03:05
Firstly, if it's such a bad newspaper with bad journalists, then why read it? Why get yourself all hot under the collar and feel the need to comment? Why not get out some more, embrace other papers......

Secondly, I'd suggest if the poll was 'infiltrated' then most of the rogues would be voting for him to stay. Are you really suggesting the majority of Yams reckon he's doing a good job?

19

Catholic Jambo,

Edin 23/04/2008 08:03:48
##14 if i thought you had a brain i would educate you with respect to what has fueled your inferiority complex.
#16 focus; running a story that 9/10 Hearts fans think RR is a t!t is NOT keeping anything in the public domain that allows any genuine fan an insight into anything currently relevant at Tynecastle.

So Mr Bathgate stop posting under Langenburger handle.
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TommyTommy,

23/04/2008 08:06:37
The poll is not credible because any Tom Dick or Harry can offer a view.

However Romanov and his merry men have rookied Hearts by taking money out of the club through loan fees and through the clubs wages system.

Romanov has put in nil investment.He has lost nothing.

The debt is accounted for by removing money from Hearts.
It is Hearts debt and there are no assets to account for it.

RR was unwilling to answer the question
"Where has all the money gone"?

Still waiting for the answer.

Foulkes used the word "Vulture" to describe Romanov.
He is just likes spending other peoples money.

Season ticket buyers beware.
21

Anecdotal,

Edinburgh 23/04/2008 08:11:08
34 no votes
328 yes votes

So only 362 votes in total. Maybe the statisticians out there can say whether this is a representative sample of the Hearts support,
22

Catholic Jambo,

Edin 23/04/2008 08:13:07
#18 assuming you are referring to me.

Do not follow your logic; because you feel a paper runs articles with a hidden agenda does not mean you should not read & comment on same.
Where do you gleem that Hearts supporters(again assume that is who you are reffering to) think RR is doing a good job?
No hot under the collar...another wrong assumption.
Perhaps you should get out more and stop wasting your time posting on articles about a poll on HKB relating to HEARTS so called Chairmans popularity.

However it is a free world & no one needs anothers permission to waste their own time.

HHGH

23

Dood,

23/04/2008 08:24:51
#22 - Get with it man.

My point was.......

Loads of punters above slagging off the standard of article in the Hootsman, slating the journalist. All I said was that they have a choice - if they think it's that mince, then go elsewhere. The Herald was mentioned, why not go there?

As for hidden agenda? Don't make me laugh!!! Is the paranoia finally infecting Gorgie? Do you honestly believe that there is a hidden agenda? Is everyone out to get Vlad/Rodders/Hearts....???? Or is this merely a case of a newspaper reporting further stories of the jocular way the the Yams are being run? The rest of the country certainly seem to think so. Even some of your own are waking up. You keep your head in the sand though son, everything will be all right.

PS - you slightly contradict yourself at the end. Firstly stating that I shouldn't be commenting on a Hearts story, then immediately stating it's a free world!!!! Must be school time now, away for the bus son.
24

Glorious Hearts,

23/04/2008 08:31:02
yawn, plap plap plap. what's this psh?
Exclusive- 90% of people asked thought RR did badly at the AGM and should leave his post. shock, horror, OMFG!
Ignore!

#23 for anyone who wants to read stories on edinburgh teams, the herald really isn't the place to go. altho they can do some incredibly crppy stories, the scotsman at least covers hearts and hibs
25

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 23/04/2008 08:33:19
# 11 Houstonhibee,

How many dimwitted F.k wit hobos are hoping that Hearts go down the tubes?

Sit back for a minute and think about how stupid your remark is you idiot.

In the past only HIBERNIAN have come the closest you going out of existance, but it did not happen. So why do you think it will happen here?

Moron

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Johnny Jambo,

23/04/2008 08:35:37
Whilst I am one who wants RR out, does anyone know the size of the poll, was it 90% of 10 or 90% of 30000.
27

Dood,

23/04/2008 08:36:39
#23 - The Herald may shock you a wee bit - They've been improving. Still too OF orientated though and not my choice.
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Dood,

23/04/2008 08:39:44
#25 - Rambo. I'd suggest that the mojority of decent minded 'hobos' don't want that. Hell, some of the chaps with me at the Leith San Siro a couple of weeks ago were even willing Hearts to beat Killie so that a fourth derby would be secured.

Most of them have now been returned to the Royal Ed now though!
29

Indie Rep Kid,

23/04/2008 08:41:58
Houstonhobo calls us a laughing stock yet he is online at 1.23am his time to tell us this.

Sad.
30

ABR,

23/04/2008 08:58:06
#21 "So only 362 votes in total. Maybe the statisticians out there can say whether this is a representative sample of the Hearts support,"

Yes - 362 is a statistically significant sample and would be acceptable in most surveys as a guide to the reactions of a far larger number.

As for all this crap getting ripped into the journo - whether this is a weak story or not doesn't hide the fact that any Jambo who actually cares for his club should be wanting Rodney out. He does nothing for our club except open it up to further ridicule.

At the moment (and until he closes us down) we can do little about his dad except not renew our season tickets but we can call for the removal of the idiot son.
31

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 23/04/2008 09:00:52
#18 The reason most of us persevere withe "The Scotsman" is it's a decent paper, with good Political and current affairs writers.
The attraction on the sports pages is more to do with Hearts fans sharing opinions that some of the truly awful sports articles..aka this one.
32

Johnny Jambo,

23/04/2008 09:01:57
I cannot believe that there are 34 people out there who want RR to stay on.
33

victorian,

23/04/2008 09:08:37
i don't see a problem with the article myself. while it's not a scientific poll by any stretch of the imagination, or a representation of the views of a significant number of fans, what is does show is a vast majority of those polled think that RR is a useless, arrogant wee t*rd who is out of his depth. surely anyone can see that.

one thing which comes as no surprise though is the non appearance of any news regarding the fact that hearts have confirmed that they will honour the £26,000 'sell on' fee to arbroath.

as ever when it comes to hearts news, it's only really worth a mention if it's negative in nature.


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Dood,

23/04/2008 09:08:39
#31 - I didn't slate the paper, I read it every day. I made a point to those who did.

And for the record, I reckon that the sports pages are some of the most objective, well written, sensible and intellectual pieces of journalism in the Scottish Media. And I would suggest that the fact that those who write them have won numerous recent national journalist awards, would tend to corroborate that.

Again, to re-iterate - Why constantly berate it and comment on it when you have the choice to go elsewhere? Like it or lump it.
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Dood,

23/04/2008 09:10:16
#33 - Vic.

Your first point - spot on. Thank you.
36

Glorious Hearts,

23/04/2008 09:14:55
#34 are you banderson in disguise? :D
37

Dood,

23/04/2008 09:15:56
#36 - Damn!!!! Rumbled!!!!
38

Langenburger,

23/04/2008 09:20:55
#19, 22, and various other scent marks today and every day and on and on.
Read #18 again and think before you just spout the usual drivel.
Then think about what you can do to help bring the Romanov Dynasty to an end and also help New Hearts regenerate.
Then we might even be on the same team.
39

We love fitba,

google 23/04/2008 09:32:31
#33 Vic,

You've changed your tune - not for the first time. Yesterday you were saying Arbroath can whistle for it. Now, after Hearts implied they're going to pay, you say this is a good news story?!

Make your mind up, mate. Surely you should be angry?

40

victorian,

23/04/2008 09:38:35
#39, here is what i said...

"re webster. arbroath are only looking after their own interests i suppose, quite rightly so because everyone else would do the same. it's an interesting situation though, hearts can credibly claim that he wasn't actually sold and therefore no 'sell on' payment is due. the money they will get for webster was a compensation fee for him escaping from his contract.

in the end it will depend on the wording of the contract of sale between hearts and arbroath. if it's worded in such a way that states arbroath are due 17.5% of any payment hearts receive as a result of webster joining another club then they would have a case. i very much doubt it does.

arbroath are looking after their interests, hearts are entitled to do the same. it will be interesting to see how much emphasis the respective clubs interests are given by the sfa and others.

my guess is that arbroath are 'screwed', as RR would say."

in what way is that saying that arbroath can whistle for it?

you'll have to do better than that if you want to get one over.
41

Houstonhibee,

23/04/2008 09:47:45
#25 and #28
What a load of 'hearts'you both talk. All real Hibs fans want to see the back of your Lithuanian minging club. Cant wait for the day, which will be sooner rather than later. bathgate will keep us posted.
GIRUY
GGTTH
42

We love fitba,

google! 23/04/2008 09:48:44
Victorian,

As I said yesterday, in my opinion Hearts are doing the right thing in paying this money. Had they done so before Arbroath went public, they'd have generated some much-needed good PR.

However, yesterday you felt the need to make the case for Hearts NOT paying the money (with a little nod towards an ongoing anti-Hearts conspiracy at the SFA). You then had a nice little dig at me for suggesting Hearts should honour the "spirit" of the contract, if not the actual clauses in there.

So, if Hearts are paying up despite not been contractually obliged to, why are you happy? Why are you now considering this a good news story?

By the by,
43

TommyTommy,

23/04/2008 09:49:49
39

Your right about that.

Not wishing to turn the spotlight away from Romanov but Vic does that all the time.

He was also posting for all he was worth that Hearts would not be held to account for the proposed debt needed to develop Tynecastle then suddenly....change of mind when Romanov announced that the debt would be held against HOM.

Vics response was that it didn't matter because HOM would owe the money to themselves.!!!!!

He then launched into an attack on posters who pointed out to him that he was making contradictory statements on seperate threads.

Vics response was to SHOUT and then to run away.

Everyone on here has a motive for posting and we expect a consistent line...Vic.

44

Jambo-ree,

23/04/2008 09:51:15
#32 - Undoubtedly Hibees in disguise.

I just want him gone now. He's and embarrassment to our Club, his father and himself, although his vanity, arrogance and stupidity no doubt prevent him from seeing it.

And the scary thing is that he's just a hearbeat away from inheriting the whole shooting match.

As Del Boy once said "You're a ronker plodney"
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Phil o Brian,

23/04/2008 09:52:49
Victor. I am sure that I read on line (here) that Hearts had contacted Arbroath to say they were getting the £26k. However, the actual paper said there had been no contact and that Arbroath were chasing.
I no, nothing better to do but read the paper online and in the flesh. Sad
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23/04/2008 09:53:27
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victorian,

23/04/2008 09:53:45
#42, here is what i also said....

"#45, "spirit of the contract"??? you're having a laugh.

also the fact that it's a small team like arbroath is neither here nor there.

hearts already stand to make a loss on this episode when legal fees are taken into account. why should they be expected to take an extra £26K hit if they aren't liable?

if arbroath are due the money then fine and great."

i also said last night that the hearts statement on the website made no mention of it being a goodwill gesture and that it made me think that they have conceded that arbroath may well have had a valid case.

from the quote above... "if arbroath are dye the money then fine and great".

does this imply that i wanted to see arbroath out of pocket?

no.... by the way.


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Jambo-ree,

23/04/2008 09:54:51
#41 - Aw come on! You'd miss us. Just stop and enagage your brain before hitting the keyboard. What would life be like without having the other lot in Edinburgh to banter with? Or are you really afraid that the only way Hibs are going to become consistent top dogs in Edinburgh is by Hearts disappearing?
49

no fan of the sfa,

23/04/2008 09:54:54
Anybody can massage satistics or polls and put a spin on the results to suit their own ends.

This poll has the same credability as the zimbabwe general/ presidential election. I know many hearts fans who avoid anything to do with kickback. Many genuine fans have a real distaste for much of the material on that website and the opinions expressed.

Taking the opinions of a few militant sado's as representitive of the hearts support is wrong on so many counts.

One thing that nobody ever seems to mention is that Roman Romanov has been ACTING CEO and CHAIRMAN since 2006. Why has nobody with the skills or experience been appointed to one or both roles? Why has RR been working on non hearts projects and hardly seen at the club when he is getting paid to do both roles?

50

Jambo-ree,

23/04/2008 09:59:44
#49 I thought Campbell Ogilvie was now CEO? To answer your last question, looking like a way of moving money from Edinburgh to Vilnius.
51

Sir Brian Hine QC,

Henley-on-Thames 23/04/2008 10:01:53
You guys are getting beyond belief, do you still not see what’s happening??? – Here you are defending your rights to slag off a newspaper who have only stated the facts that arose from your own site, incidentally, this is the same rag that when a positive story does land “Good article” is all you ever hear, but regardless whether it was a 300 or 3000, it’s 90% and yet still you miss the main point, that RR made the most ridiculous comments at the AGM to achieve nothing other than cover up the real problems that he didn’t want to answer, The stand, the debt, the manager, the champions league, the world cup stars, Daddy's dancing classes, why did he announce just before the split he'll be at every game until the end of the season and when you end up in the bottom six he's nowhere to be seen...again, etc etc etc, the total lies you have been spun from day 1 – and because he has no answers he flings in another red herring and you’re all off fishing for it. Yes it's not down to us we never made the top six your honour, it's the press and the SFA and the ref's and and and. In the past I have been guilty, as all of us are at some point, in winding up or even enjoying the problems associated with the opposing team/fans, but now, this is just crazy, for god’s sake waken up and do something about these lunatics or it will get worse.
52

no fan of the sfa,

23/04/2008 10:05:25
#50 i know that Campbell Ogilvie has been moved to a General Managers role. However RR is still officially doing both CEO and chairman for which he gets two salaries. This was suppose to be a temp measure until they could get around to appointing someone else. Sound like the managerial vacancy too.
53

Jambo-ree,

23/04/2008 10:15:54
#52 - Thanks for clarifying

#51 - And exactly how many comments have you read on this or any other thread since the AGM supporting RR? We have NOT missed the main point and can all see what an @rse young Rodders made of himself at the AGM.
54

victorian,

23/04/2008 10:20:22
'we love fitba' & 'tommytommy', you rippers seem to have gone very quiet. don't fall over each other trying to get in first with your admissions of error about misquoting people. form an orderly queue if you need to.
55

The Wookie,

Edinburgh 23/04/2008 10:31:11
14#....

Obviously you have never read the story that your ex-player Brian Walsh is sueing Hibs due to Hibs doctor giving him the wrong Jag and crippling him ending his career...

You have apparantly a new training centre that will attract the cream of Europes best players according to the supporters of the flairmiesters...but the treatment of injured players will really atract them....I think not!!!
56

TommyTommy,

23/04/2008 10:31:57
Not at all Vic.We have lives and work you know.

Your quotes only serve to put you in the dock.

You can't have it both ways you know.

You advocate a conflict between Hearts and Arbroath and then you simultaneously state that Hearts attempts at settling the dispute is a positive story.

Contradictions vic.
Get the daftie book out for vic.

By the way I laughed when you were unable to respond to my comments.Amusing ?
57

victorian,

23/04/2008 10:36:59
#56 tommytommy, "if arbroath are due the money then fine and great". the quote is there in black and white, no contradiction i'm afraid. post #50 on yesterdays thread.

as ever you've made a prat out of yourself.

amusing you say?

oh yes.

58

TommyTommy,

23/04/2008 10:38:00
Vic

I have trawled the boards and I can't find your post advocating that Hearts settle the Arbroath dispute ASAP and that this would be a positive gesture.

However as a reasonable person I wont count my chickens.

I'll wait here.
59

victorian,

23/04/2008 11:02:02
#58 tommytommy, you are hilarious, and yet quite frightening at the same time.

60

We love fitba,

23/04/2008 11:15:32
#60 Vic, you're making yourself look ridiculous now. TT has laid it out for you in post 58... it's not too complicated.
61

TommyTommy,

23/04/2008 11:25:50

Ten chickens ,eleven chickens , and rising.

Vic.

Would you care to recall that case of extreme
contradictites I was refering to?

It would make an amusing diversion from the usual posts.

I'm a bit dotty and well I'm sure you know what I'm on about.
62

Prof,

23/04/2008 11:30:11
#33 The problem with that point of view is that the majority of the correspondents here presumably get their news on Hearts from the Scotsman/EEN. As a result their views will reflect what’s in these newspapers.
However in a number of cases it seems that the Scotsman/EEN has its own way of covering certain Hearts related incidents.
For example: The AGM coverage in the Scotsman/EEN was completely at odds as how it was described in the Times, Herald, and the BBC.
Another example is the constant innuendo in the EEN that Hearts are in financial trouble The club has debt, but the debt is held by the clubs owners. Previously it was HBOS, now its Ukia. So who will call the debt in and put Hearts out of business? Ukia who own Hearts? Why would they do that.
Fact is the Romanovs and Ukia have take on all the debt that Hearts had and then increased it by borrowing more from Ukia, not from HBOS or Hearts.
So what’s the way out ? Young Romanov was exasperated when asked. I’m not surprised. Who else was willing to repay HBOS and buy the 80% holding? As for annoying the existing shareholders. It was them, the Pieman and Foulkes that got Hearts in that mess initially.
As Romanov pointed out Hearts have received £9m. for Gordon and will receive £2-3 m. for Bednar. So debt is closer to £25m. Not much more than it was when he took over. He then went on to say players would be sold and wages reduced.
Can’t see much wrong with that reasoning.
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Amburno,

23/04/2008 11:40:36
#63 Can't see the debt for the sand in your eyes :o)

Victorian - If Hearts are going to settle the 26k, that's great news! When they actually get round to paying it...that's another thing.
64

Prof,

23/04/2008 11:53:11
#63 Its very simple. Hearts can follow Hibs example and sell of any half decent player. Berra, Kingston, Wallace, Driver etc. Its likely to take some time as we will need to bring in some new youngsters and train then up. That may explain the emphasis on the new scouting system.
Can't remember how long Hibs took to do this - 10 years maybe?
65

Newcastle Jambo,

23/04/2008 11:56:14
Only 9 out of 10??? Surely it's 10 out of 10. And at least 8 out of 10 want shot of Del Boy Valdamir as well as Rodney the plonker.
66

TommyTommy,

23/04/2008 11:59:02
63

I don't know why your refering your comment to Vic.
You'll only get the party line from him.

Your garbling on a bit but I will take your main points and help out your thinking.

1) Are Hearts in financial trouble?

They owe £40 million so I would say thats financial trouble especially if you cant pay it off.

2)They owe the debt to a bank.The debt is in Hearts name.You seem to think it is in Romanovs name.

Does it matter if the bank is called HBOS or Ukia?

Let me assure you that the debt will be called in.

3) Romanov has increased Hearts debt.
What has he done with the money that has gone on the clubs bill?

4) Why call in the debt?

Because it is due to the bank thats why.

Just like you and me.Pay up or else action.

5)The remaining shareholders are victims of the Romanov con.
Why blame them for Hearts plight?

6)Where has the transfer money gone?

The interest on the money paid ought to be mounting.Where is it?

The jury is out on that one.

"Cant see much wrong with that reasoning"

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We love fitba,

google! 23/04/2008 11:59:06
Prof, are you quoting yourself? This is the message board equivalent of referring to yourself in the third person in conversation.

Not a good look...
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hibbyspurs,

23/04/2008 12:01:54
#63

Hold on a minute.... Players sold.... wages reduced?

That kinda flies in the face of World Cup Stars & Winning the champions leauge does it not?

I mean unless some of these top notch stars are willing to take big drops in wages to arrive at Tynecastle then I really dont see Hearts ever completing the second part of that promise either...

Regardless of whats happening with the debt at Tynecastle you must see that the statements issued by the clubs owners/ board at times are totally contradicatory.

this then leads me to believe as a fairly intellegient and educated person that something is truly rotten to the core at Hearts & that the current ownership have got a lot to answer for & I mean ANSWER rther than fobbing you lot off with any story that they think you'll buy.....

So forget blaming Foulkes or the pie man... IMO your club is actually in a worse state now than it was then... Somebody someday is going to have to pay that money back & do you think your going to have another 4 or 5 Craig Gordon value players turn up in the near future? If you do then you truly are living on the planet Reebok!
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Prof,

23/04/2008 12:04:40
#67 I thought of respnding but then realised you were being serious. How sad.
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hibbyspurs,

23/04/2008 12:08:07
#70

Yep, there you go.... A valid argument is put to you and you reply like that...

Says a lot about you......

Go stick your head in the sand again & maybe, just maybe all Hearts problems will dissapear into thin air...

In the meantime I suggest the likes of you leave the actual notin of what to do about these fools in charge at Tynecastle to the real Hearts fans who in an ever increasing number are demanding ANSWERS form the owner/ board.
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victorian,

23/04/2008 12:08:32
prof, i know i have been responding to tommytommy today but i try like a bear not to normally. it's usually a complete waste of time and effort, he's like a robot that's been programmed in a certain way, only to produce the same old drivel in response to everything. he also masquerades as a hearts fan when it's patently obvious that he isn't one. frighteningly sad thing to do.

he'll do your head in.

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TommyTommy,

23/04/2008 12:14:54
72

Are you still backing Romanov Vic?

Are you that one in ten on the poll?
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Iain Bhern,

23/04/2008 12:16:04
#55 Wookie, read the article again my friend. It is not the club he is suing, indeed as you will have read in the article the club have already paid him compensation some years ago. Welsh is suing the doctor himself for negligence.
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brettgallacher,

edinburgh 23/04/2008 12:46:07
i think capitan vlad must be bunging most of the jambos on here , if they think there s not a problem having a 36mill debt
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Salvatori,

23/04/2008 13:47:29
Don't see what the problem is here - are people hoenstly saying they are happy with Rodders at the helm? I'm certainly not - particularly after Friday.

Is it just the criticism by a paper that riles, or perhaps a dose of sado masochism - enjoying the slaps in the face and whilst paying for the pleasure.

Believe it or not (although like when you are a football player or manager or sports journo - allegiances to an extent go out the window), Bathgate is a jambo.
76

B4 Part B,

23/04/2008 13:55:40
Only gonna say a few things:

1) I still want the Romanovs here. Its not good just now (infact its terrible!) but I reckon it will come good if we stick with it.
2) I do think the Scotsman only post negative Hearts articles, can't remember a positive one.
3) All the Hibs fans telling ME what I should be doing about MY club, to get rid of the Romanovs, read point 1, and also another point, I cant remember the name of the guy you had in charge before Farmer (I'm a bit young for that), however, Hibs were going to the wall, there was going to be no more Hibs, there was no boycotting, no protesting, just a slow death for your club, only after Mercer said he would buy the club was any action taken, did anything start, so the hypocrisy of you guys who were watching their club slowly die astounds me! I am all for you commenting on the situation offering your views but this "Stop buying season tickets" "get out and get protesting in gorgie" cr@p that gets spouted does my head in!!!
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Lenny,

23/04/2008 14:51:03
# 77

What complete and utter cr@p. It was Duff and Gray who were in charge, and they basically blew all Hibs money on hotels in England. However, no one had any idea what was going on until it was pretty much too late. Mercer saw an opportunity and started buying up shares, many through a 3rd party. When it became apparent what was actually going on the 'Hands off Hibs' campaign was formed and must have a big part in the fact Hibs are still here today.

Try getting your facts right. Fact is Hibs DID do something about it and managed to save the club.
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Leithjambo,

Leith 23/04/2008 14:51:03
Roman Romanov is the most contemptible case of a 'daddy's boy' I have ever seen. You know the sort- living off Daddy's achievements and looking down on everyone else despite the fact that if he had had to make it on his own he'd be nothing but a bum!
The pre-meeting picture of himm scrutinising with contempt the brand of his bottle of mineral water says it all.
Vladimir Romanov has conditioned this boy into a very unsatisfactory human being, so maybe its not all his fault.
Still as I always say, never trust a man who looks like he's never had a ride he hasnae paid for.
He must have the most punchable face I have ever seen.
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Northern Hibby.,

23/04/2008 15:50:39
The fact is that if Vlad tells you that nine out of ten, leaves the majority of Hearts fans supporting him, who can say he is wrong and what can they do about it? In a dictatorship, truth is whatever the dictator wants it to be.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 23/04/2008 16:00:30
Hibs appear to be the only credible football club lect if the capital city.

Any Hearts fan with an ounce of self respect will refuse to renew their season ticket.

Many Hearts supporters that I know preferred it in the old 1st div, as opposed to being an arm of an obscure eastern european bank.

I thought Mr Ogilvie would have improved things, I reckon he'll jump ship soon.

Man the lifeboats jambos.
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Catholic Jambo,

23/04/2008 16:22:38
#23 Dud: Get with it.I know what u said!Now concentrate on what i am saying. QUOTE(from you) ' All I SAID WAS THEY HAVE A CHOICE' u then proceed to tell them what to do. NOTE: i and others have CHOSEN to comment on the article as WE see fit.
Re anti Romanov agenda: the evidence of same is transparent/the reasons for same are transparent(unless you wear blinkers as is the case with you).
Where do i state that everyone is out to get Hearts?

CONTRADICTION ALLEGATION: i accept that i initially suggested you were wasting your time & qualified same by saying that it was your time to waste. A qualification...SON not a contradiction.
Where do i state that i believe that anyone is out to get Hearts ?
Still waiting on an answer to :where do you gleem that Hearts supporters think RR doing a good job?
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B4 Part B,

23/04/2008 16:51:07
#78

Not denying Hands Off Hibs didnt help, they did have a big big part to play in the reason Hibs are still around, however, as you have posted Duff and Grey "they basically blew all Hibs money on hotels in England." What were the Hibs support doing at this time? were they protesting? walking out on games? boycotting?

"no one had any idea what was going on until it was pretty much too late." Why was that? Was no one taking an interest?

"Mercer saw an opportunity and started buying up shares, many through a 3rd party. When it became apparent what was actually going on the 'Hands off Hibs' campaign was formed" Thats exactly what I was saying, There was no action until Mercer wanted to buy the club, only after was Hands Off Hibs formed, and protests etc. arranged.

You did a good job of proving my points.

Cheers
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Voice of the mysterons,

Mars 23/04/2008 17:17:00
#77 Plenty of good articles but like bad refereeing decisions you only remember the ones that back up your argument, not every decision/article in the paper. Hearts with a fan base of 400,000 or over half the population of Edinburgh or at least 60% of the distribution area. Are they really going to deliberatly p*ss that amount of readers off?

#83 Well done on proving your points.

Please note- no advice.
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Dood,

23/04/2008 17:28:44
#82 - I'll not bother to answer your questions until you actually bother to READ my points and digest them. As one of your own supporters suggests you do in post #38.

As he says, stop spouting your usual drivel and remove your head from wherever it is.

PS - I like what you've done with my name there. Dud. That's clever.
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Dood,

23/04/2008 17:35:19
#83 - Just to clarify.

The situation was slightly different back then, in terms of accounting. The club accounts were not quite so transparent and due to the financial irregularities being masked behind various other trading and holding companies (the vast majority of the debt was held by a company called Avon Inns I recall), very few people knew of the Hibs debt.

Therefore the supporters actually had no idea what was going on. Wallace Mercer got wind of the impending disaster, tried to takeover and at this point, all was revealed. Immediately the protests started.
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Catholic Jambo,

Edin 23/04/2008 18:19:18
#85 DUD Good response. In other words rather than be humble enough to admit your errors hide behind another posters point.
Clever stuff i answer all your points(accept you do not agree) & therein ask you to clarify your statements

eg Where do u gleem Hearts supporters think RR doing a good job?
Where do i state everyone is out to get Hearts?

As you cannot answer you induldge in insults!

Enough said .

Did u know Zemmama( midfielder plays for Hibs) is out for the season?

Big blow as i thought Hibs best player on Sunday(against Dundee Utd: note your team is involved in a 3 way fight foe Europe). Then again 9 out of 10 Jambos think RR should go!!!!!!

(realise last para too subtle for a Dud)
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Dood,

23/04/2008 21:41:37
#87 - Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn.

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Hibby in Exile,

23/04/2008 22:00:23
10 out of 10 Fellow Hibby's want the man to remain!!
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droggs,

23/04/2008 23:34:15
Still think is is amazing that some of my fellow Jambos still believe.

Romanov is only interested in parading supposed lithuanian players as that is how he hoped to make money from HEARTS. He will continue to bring in so-so lithu's alongside 2 or 3 decent players from elsewhere to help them into the shopwindow.

Anyone that shows any potential will be put on a long-term contract and sold.

Winning trophies or in fact doing anything to benefit HEARTS is not something that interests him. It is only about making money.

Any new manager will have the same restrictions on them as Burley, Rix ect. had. Play the Lithu's when told to or leave. Nothing will change.

Remember and buy your season tickets because if you don't Romanov will decide we do not deserve a new main stand and pull the plug because we did not back him.

Previously it was the manager to blame, the the refs, next the officials in the boardroom, eventually the fans will be the scapegoat.

At least he cannot blame the Hobos. Or can he???


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CBJambo,

24/04/2008 13:05:24
I'm actually suprised it is only 9/10 fans who want him out.
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Canadian Jambo,

canada 26/04/2008 01:50:20
Can you imagine being a Hearts player and having this nonsense swirling about you week after week? Players read the newspapers and I'm sure the various forums. How would you like to work in an atmosphere of chaos and disorganization-no matter how much you were paid.
It amazes me that some of them have the desire to continue to try to function effectively in this maelstrom of confusion, lack of direction and paranoia.
The Romanovs have been a disaster. Wouldn't it be a change for the better if players were picked on talent and commitment, the manager selected the team and the whole culture of the Romanovs moved off to the Baltic.
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