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Romanov 'reaping what he has sown' as Rober turns down post



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Published Date: 30 June 2008
By Angus Wright
JURGEN Rober has turned down the chance to become manager at Hearts after hinting he feared interference from Tynecastle owner Vladimir Romanov.
The 54-year-old German, who took Hertha Berlin from the Bundesliga's Second Division in to the Champions League, met Romanov in Lithuania on Friday. But Rober later explained why he has become the third coach after Motherwell manager Mark McGhee an
d Slovakian Vladimir Weiss, to knock back the chance to move to Gorgie.

"We had a really interesting meeting and I was impressed with Mr Romanov," the former Stuttgart, Partizan Belgrade and Borussia Dortmund manager said.

"He has some good ideas for the club. But the trouble was I have my opinions on how to coach and he has his ideas. Unfortunately these ideas would not come together. He has different ideas on how to move a club forward. He is a businessman and I understand why he wants what he wants.

"But I have been 35 years in professional football. I am not saying anything bad about Mr Romanov. But I had this feeling we couldn't come together."

Former Hearts chairman George Foulkes insists Romanov is simply "reaping what he has sown" after being snubbed by a prospective manager for the third time this summer.

Foulkes was originally a supporter of Romanov but resigned in controversial circumstances in October 2005 after chief executive Phil Anderton was sacked, their departures coming just ten days following that of manager George Burley. The former Tynecastle chairman said: "Vladimir Romanov is reaping what he has sown.

"His reputation goes before him and potential managers have noted how he has treated previous managers, George Burley in particular.

"Any manager worth his salt will want a free hand to choose his own players and put his own ideas into action.

"I believe, and a majority of Hearts fans believe, that Vladimir Romanov needs to change his views.



"The only kind of person who will take the job under present circumstances will be a puppet from one of the eastern European countries like Russia, Belarus or Lithuania and that is not what the Hearts fans want.

"I bought my season ticket again along with around 10,000 others on the understanding that we would have a manager by now."





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  • Last Updated: 29 June 2008 8:58 PM
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30/06/2008 00:04:50
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Silence of the Yams,

30/06/2008 00:11:20
Stick it on Ebay, you might get £20.
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Der Kaiser,

30/06/2008 00:15:39
2#
Really? That much?
4

Silence of the Yams,

30/06/2008 00:22:38
I admit I'm a glass half full man.
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glen urquhart,

ibrox 30/06/2008 00:29:33
The main surprise is that this guy Rober bothered to even meet Vlad.
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Der Kaiser,

30/06/2008 00:29:53
Just checked e-bay and you can buy a used Barnsley season ticket from their 1997/98 season. Would mine attract as much interest?
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heebyJeeby,

30/06/2008 00:44:38
Der Kaiser

I will give you a tenner for it.

Two Celtic away games for a fiver a head sounds like a good deal.........tho i suppose that would require hertz to finsh i the top 6 which is pretty unlikely.

Call it a fiver.
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Brian-still-Hearts-mad-after-all-those-years,

sydney 30/06/2008 00:51:55
So, if 9000 or so fans have purchased their season tickets mainly in the belief that VR would come good on his promise to appoint a manager with experience in British football, does that mean if he doesn't deliver then they could all request a refund?
I think that 9000 fans requesting refunds for their season tickets would really get the message through to Romanov! (If that doesn't, probably nothing will.) Of course that will never happen, but even if several hundred to were make the request I'm sure it would have some impact.

I'm sure it must come under the heading of false or misleading advertising!
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Brian-still-Hearts-mad-after-all-those-years,

sydney 30/06/2008 01:01:06
Another major concern about Rober turning down the Hearts job is that (according to what I read elsewhere) not only was he concerned about possible interference from Romanov in player signings and team selection, but also that Romanov indicated he wanted to bring players to Hearts from from Kaunas and Ripo!
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Silence of the Yams,

30/06/2008 01:11:03
#9. That is the basic problem with Hearts, Ripemov wants to make money for himself on Kaunas players like Velicka. His dream would be a guy who could command a fee like Gordon, but be a Kaunas contracted player. In his mind he could possibly trouser £9m tax free. With that agenda he is hardly going to allow complete control to any manager.
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bring them on,

30/06/2008 02:52:26
#1

Swap you two Top Of The Pops albums (1973), for the season ticket.
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Raskolnikov,

30/06/2008 03:12:29
BTO - Does it feature Slade?
13

bring them on,

30/06/2008 03:19:36
#12

Slade, Mud and Paper Lace songs are just among a few of the classics
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CALEDONIACO,

The Emerald City 30/06/2008 05:42:09
#1 DK , Although I don’t have any affinity with your club, sow what you reap and all that stuff, I for one think you should be commended for making a stand against this a$$hole (good for you).
Shame on the rest of your fellow supporters for backing him and bankrolling this arrogant tw@t, especially Media 1 mad vlads #1 fan.

Hey big guy if you want to watch a winning team come over to the Hoops, you would be more than welcome to spend £400 with us, just think you could be watching you new team winning another league title.

Something to think about!

4 In a row coming your way, and you know it!

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petegeneva,

geneva 30/06/2008 07:24:07
#14 you just don't get it do you?
When you have an allegiance to a club you can't just give it up and switch to another club. That's what wee girlies do in Japan, whoops Beckham has moved from Man U now I'm a Real fan.
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scorchio,

West of the Pecos 30/06/2008 07:28:15
Unlike #1 I refused and continue to refuse to renew my ST
I also take the positive out of another manager turning us down, I hope no one is willing to operate Vlads system.
I think we better brace ourselves for the worst of all scenarios...A Malofeef mark2 coming in.
Some complete plank a Vlad assosciate, who will cause more mayhem.
OR Mr Romanov could wake up, and let our NEW MANAGER, run the show.
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bring them on,

30/06/2008 07:44:10
#18

OF

Too true. Hearts are finished. Just a matter of time.
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huggs,

30/06/2008 08:03:04
No one is going to be given complete control at Tynecastle and thats why we will have another Kaunas puppet in charge
Frail did not even have complete control in training never mind team selection
Last season Frail fined a player for being on his mobile at the start of training
The player complained to one of the east European hangers on and he revoked the fine
Great message to send out the players do what they want,Nade doesnt train and he hasn't even bothered turnng up yet,Panilla has a 28 day training programme while he stays with the owner!!and he will turn up fit aye right
You could not make this up its a disgrace and we need to do something
Anyone any ideas?
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Jambo-ree,

30/06/2008 08:04:48
#17 - Having recently returned to live north of the border I was swithering whether to buy a ST for the coming season but decided to hold off until a 'proper' manager was in place. Glad I did now.

I fully understand those who decided to ahead based on promises made and their love of the club but it would have been a glorious chance to send an unequivocal message to VR if they had even held off for a while.

What's done is done, but I like your idea of asking for a refund.
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huggs,

30/06/2008 08:05:13
#20 Berra is only getting better he came on leaps and bounds last season as any Hearts fan will agree
Not surprised he wants to leave it is a shambles now and can only see it getting worse
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bring them on,

30/06/2008 08:07:40
#21

Huggs

If this was a movie, some real football fan would come along and save Hearts from disappearing.

As it is not, they are stuffed and will only be remembered in pub quizzes, as the bonus question at the end.

"Name the Hearts team from season 2007/2008?"

No one could remember that....
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the west end general,

the Tynie Arms 30/06/2008 08:11:12
as gorgeous George says Vlad's meddling must be known to all so why did this guy even bother to meet him?
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John H,

edinburgh 30/06/2008 08:30:38
Hot of the press.
New Manager in frame.
A German called Hans Tied.
Certainly sounds the part.
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Gorgie's Finest,

30/06/2008 08:36:33
Mornin Guys

George Foulkes has a cheek saying anything.

It was Foulkes that sold this man to us, it was him that got Vlad involved in buyin us in the first place, as usual like all politicians he is now pandering to the mass, to gain favour. After all with Wendy Alexander resigning at his party in turmoil he needs all the votes he can get, Heres one vote you wont be getting Foulkes.

Foulkes should be man enough and honest enough to hold his hands up and say sorry for bringing this mad man to Hearts in the first place. Sadly like most politicians, hell will freeze over first before any apology is heard, or admission of guilt.

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Gorgie's Finest,

30/06/2008 08:43:05
#29

Yes. Pat Munro and a consortium, However Foulkes and Robinson wouldnt even speak to them, they had pound signs flashing in theie eyes when they saw Romanov a Russian worth hundreds of millions.
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Indy Rep Kid,

30/06/2008 08:46:09
#28

No point going over old ground now as damage has been done.

But why is the Scotsman still seeking out Foulkes for quotes when he has nothing new to say?

Why is the Scotsman not pursuing guys like Campbell Ogilvie and Frail for THEIR thoughts on this shambles? Even a terse 'No Comment' would speak louder than a thousand Foulkes quotes.

I just see no sign of any journalism that would suggest the Scotsman is trying to get answers, rather than a re-hash of old news.
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Chas Niceass,

30/06/2008 08:48:52
There is one option available to Hearts fans. Not buying club merchandise will only serve to increase debt and put off prospective buyers, if there is anyone rich enough or perhaps even madder than Vlad himself (surely not?!?!).
Its sad that it comes to this but any puppet who Romanov puts in place MUST be driven out of town until the position can never be filled and Romanov has to sell or accept his customers wishes.
Brace ourselves for massive player revolt and almost certain relegation battle if not relegation itself as we are heading for the impass we all suspected would come.
No more Liths let alone Belarussians unless they are called Hleb and looking to leave Arsenal!
Enoughs enough, boycotting Tynecastle though will be counter productive, turn up and let our voices be heard.
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Indy Rep Kid,

30/06/2008 08:49:42
#33 Has the record spoken to Ogilvie? Frail?

I'll try online as I refuse to give that Weegie rag any cash.

No offence.
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Johnny Jambo,

30/06/2008 08:55:07
Guys,
I have tried for a few weeks now to look at the positives and although over the last couple of years there have been some , none of them are Vladimir Romanov. Hearts are in trouble and it is just the level that is in debate.

Charlie Mann, whom I had very little respect for has stated that he left becaue VR wanted less communication not more so what chance do we have of getting any info from Tynie or hinm listening to the fans, who are afrter all the paying CUSTOMER. In my business Customer is King but it appears not here.

I can put up with people like Victorian calling me a wristslitter if he wants, but I need some convincing from him that he honestly believes that Romanov has Hearts best interests at heart.
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Gorgie's Finest,

30/06/2008 08:55:51
#32

To be fair OF, I know things are a complete shambles at Hearts, but it is only on the field where we are a shambles, when you look at the bigger picture which a lot of people dont, there is a lot of good foundations been laid for the future. IF and its a massive IF Romanov would just let the day to day running of the Football side of it be run by a manager, those worries you had would return. Unfortunately Romanov will not allow that, so you have nothing to worry about.

The potential to achieve again is there, if only Vlad would keep in his fingers out the pie.

I think a lot of the problems are Vlads arrogance not only in business but in Football as well, coupled with his ignorance of the Scotisg game. He thought by coming over here, investing a few million in the team, brinign in a load of players he could win the league and challenge the OF, he was very very nearly proved right, until he started meddling. That plan has now backfired on him big time, and he is paying the price for it, so are Hearts, the debt has escalated, and like a good businessman he is not going to just wipe it out with his own money, he wants Hearts to be able to pay that debt themselves, he wants Hearts to eventually become self sufficient, but you know and i know this will never happen while he is meddling in the team, theres where the catch 22 comes in.
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Hibby Heapy,

30/06/2008 08:58:10
#30 Unfortunatley the Pat Munro Consortium was never a reality. Knowing Pat, he does not know why his name is continually linked with this. He was/is aware of certain people who are/may be interested, but he has no interest in persoanlly being involved at all.

I hope someone is willing to buy Hearts, but In this present economic climate, who would have the money needed to buy the club anyway?
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Indy Rep Kid,

30/06/2008 09:03:54
#40

"but they havent reported on him recently coz they WERENT AWARE HE WAS STILL AT THE CLUB"

says it all
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petegeneva,

geneva 30/06/2008 09:07:57
#37
"it is only on the field where we are a shambles,"

Oh well that must be a consolation to you all, no?

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Gorgie's Finest,

30/06/2008 09:11:30
#38

For someone not interested or who doesnt want involve he certainly has been quoted every time he sees an oppertunity. Only in January he was ahain Quoted saying he has a consortium.

So maybe you don't know him as well as you think, because thats rubbish about him saying he doesnt know why his name keeps being linked, when it is him himself who gives the interviews to the media with him saying he has this person or that person involved, and has done so at every attempt he has made so far, which is now 4 i think.
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Gorgie's Finest,

30/06/2008 09:14:48
#43

No it's not a consolation, but you like so many other non Hearts fans that cant or dont want to see a wider picture, see whats happening at playing level and try to put that into doom and gloom scenarios for the whole club. If you and others like you that pretend to be so interested were to actually spend a little time looking at Hearts more in depth and the plans they have in place and some of the ventures they have taken on you will see there are many positives as well. Unfortunately you wont though, because like so many non Hearts fans the only thing you want to see is the negatives , for the sole purpose of gettin one over on the Hearts fans
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Indy Rep Kid,

30/06/2008 09:15:25
#42 er...um....can't remember

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Indy Rep Kid,

30/06/2008 09:22:35
#45

Off the field, Hearts have certainly raised their game but that only adds to the frustration.

Vlad has to do ONE THING to make us succesful and yet he, despite being a succesful businessman, seems unable to pass on control of one part of his business to somebody more qualified.

I would also say that i'll believe the new stand is being built when I am sitting in it.
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Gorgie's Finest,

30/06/2008 09:24:56
#42

No-one knew in what capacity he was in at Hearts but it had not been announced he had been sacked or had resigned.

Vlad is paying for his coaching badges, so it wouldnt make sense for him to just get rid of Frail, although many things Vlad does, doesnt make sense i suppose.
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Mist001,

Marseille 30/06/2008 09:29:21
I'd go for the job, even though I have no football experience. Then I'd start whining that he was picking the team, thus making my position untenable and eventually, I'd walk out of Tynecastle with a nice few grand compensation in my back pocket.

Better than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick!

Michael.
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Gorgie's Finest,

30/06/2008 09:30:38
#48 IRK

Spot on m8, and agree, thats the very frustrating thing about all this mess, It's just that one thing Vlad has to do, and its not asking for anything special, its purely asking to give a manager the same level of autonomy that other managers take for granted at every other club. Thats the one piece of the jogsaw that is missing. you see it, i see it, thousands of Hearts fans see it, in fact everyone can see it, Vlad hmself must see it, but he refuses to do it. For the life of me i have no idea why he refuses to do it, for him to make money from Hearts we have to be successfull, he wants to showcase players and move them on fair enough, he'll get more money for them if Hearts are challenging and winning.
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30/06/2008 09:31:03
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Gorgie Gorgie,

EDINBURGH 30/06/2008 09:32:23
Very glad that I held off renewing my season ticket, was going to go down on Saturday but that was put on hold due to the utter shambles that's happened over the last few days. A long hard season in the bottom 6 is nailed on again and my only fear is we won't have a Gretna to bail us out this season.
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Gorgie's Finest,

30/06/2008 09:33:41
#54

37million??????

Another of your famous exclusives that never come to pass is it....fake lith.

If i remember correctly the last report in the media (This very paper) claimed the debt to be below 30million as we have all told you for some time...but dont let that get in the way of your agenda eh...muppet
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Little Bleeder,

30/06/2008 09:49:40
This is getting boring - I remember when hearts were a proper comedy club, now it's the same joke week after week --

"Do you want to manage hearts?"

"Errm, no. You must be having a giraffe."

Come on, where's the new material?
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flogelsleftpeg,

Happyland with the Happy Mondays 30/06/2008 09:56:16
Quick question, was the guy offered the job to allow him to "snub" it? Maybe he was snubbed by the evil dictator?
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30/06/2008 10:00:56
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30/06/2008 10:00:56
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Blue Squirrel,

Scotland 30/06/2008 10:00:58
How long is the tiresome debate going to continue? - most of Scotland has no interet in Hearts or their management team - put in on the back burner until someone is appointed - if it ever happens - and then the debate can be opened up again.
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Gorgie`s Finest,

30/06/2008 10:01:42
I'm selling my season ticket.

http://edinburgh.gumtree.com/edinburgh/65/25591965.html
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huggs,

30/06/2008 10:03:48
#61 Pretty stupid joke considering they beat you to the title for the 3rd year in a row is it not?
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It's me!,

30/06/2008 10:07:35
Does anyone care what Foulkes thinks? I doubt it so why do reporters automatically pick up the phone to ask for his opinion? Laziness probably.
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Little Bleeder,

30/06/2008 10:07:50
A Rangers fan goes into the pub and asks for a pint of lager. Barman says "Sorry, I'm not serving you". So the Rangers fan leaves and comes back with 50 other Rangers fans who totally trash the bar. That's not a joke btw, it's sort of what goes on with Rangers fans.
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huggs,

30/06/2008 10:08:38
#67 Still stupid
Will see your Greatt European run in famous football riots
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Little Bleeder,

30/06/2008 10:09:39
_68_"Does anyone care what Foulkes thinks?"

No. But the EEN should seek out his quotes regarding Hearts at every turn so he make a bigger ass of himself than he already is.
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FTH22inarow,

30/06/2008 10:18:04
65 call youself a Heart of Midlothian fan.
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Gorgie`s Finest,

30/06/2008 10:21:34
#73

Listen fool, I'm more of a Jambo than you'll ever be. Loser.
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30/06/2008 10:25:45
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FTH22inarow,

30/06/2008 10:27:14
74 grow up
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Little Bleeder,

30/06/2008 10:28:11
He's got a Buzzcocks badge and a Scooby Doo badge. Do they count?
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busbyfh,

30/06/2008 10:35:33
Well done Scotsman - These details were readily available on Saturday night and printed in two or three papers yesterday.
If Vlad (as reported) was offering 1/2 mil per year , you would think that a manager with the status to be worth this amount of money might be able to pick his own football team. That's what is baffling - how a person like Vlad could have the ego to presume that he knows as much (if not more) about football as an "expert"/ (Well - 1/2m per year says to me he is an expert)Why spend loads of money on expertise and than do the job yourself ?
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Gorgie`s Finest,

30/06/2008 10:36:07
#76

The lack of adroitness in your reply shows you up for what you are.
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Little Bleeder,

30/06/2008 10:40:11
78_

He'd be paying that money so the incumbant would put up with interference and shut up about it.

Stooges willing to undermine their own professional don't come cheap these days. In Hearts case they just don't come. At all.

Stevie Frail it is then, he's willing to bend over forwards for Romanov.
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huggs,

30/06/2008 10:40:33
#72 OF All us lot ever talk about is Rangers rioting all the time
If you dont like it sign out,switch off go on an old firm thread with the rest of the unwashed cowards, sick or your non stop diddy sh1te anyway
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huggs,

30/06/2008 11:41:55
#82 You have a short memory
Every day you come on hear repeating yourself,most of your posts have diddy team in them somewhere you dont have much of a clue about anything and most of your posts end up being deleted as your a complete t1t and i am refusing to stoop to your level again
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30/06/2008 12:04:20
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30/06/2008 12:06:46
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viator,

oldshoremore 30/06/2008 12:16:09
To quote Foulkes," I have been a Hearts fan for 22 years!" given that he is 68 years old, what or who was he supporting for the first 41 years of his football supporting life...? He is NOT the voice of the Hearts Support..... he is just a verbose voice. Period.
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Hibernianinc,

30/06/2008 12:18:01
I've posted this before, but for those above who 'believe' Vlad is doing a good job off-field, have a look at this -

http://www.football-finances.org.uk/

It's impartial, and derived from the company accounts of the featured teams.

Key points, financially speaking -

herts are deep in doo-doo.
Spending £3.3m on registering 3 Kaunas loan deals pretty much equates to asset-stripping.
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I.J,

The Diggers 30/06/2008 12:27:41
#87 - you should alert that to the authorities. I'm pretty sure you've just stumbled upon a major crime syndicate involving Romanov that NO ONE else has ever found! Jeez, you might even get a medal! Well done you!
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Jim Baxter,

Alicante 30/06/2008 12:56:39
Romanov is just like a little boy with a ball you play it my way or I will take the ball home.Assh+++ Romanov get down on bended knee and promise NOT to get involved with team selections or transfers of players. A man spending 35 years as a Coach is going t take orders from a smart as+ who knows SFA about football but wants to make a fast buck. Little wonder the German told him to sling his hook.Romanov has completly misled the fans into beleaving there would be a new Manager with experience of the Scottish game, he hasnt produced what he promised therefore get your money returned for all Season Tickets bought.
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Southern Bapist Jambo,

30/06/2008 12:58:00
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Galatians 6:7
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Hibernianinc,

30/06/2008 12:59:10
#89

No need for that, just doing my civil duty.

I know what it's like for you. Having to read a bunch of tosh by some herts supporting muppets STILL saying everything off-field is fine, when you know full well you're dingied, but don't have the heart (no pun intended) to break it to one of your own.

That's why I, and all my other Hibbie mates are here.

Here to remind you.

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I.J,

The Diggers 30/06/2008 13:16:52
#92 - I know Romanov is a welt. I haven't renewed my ST for the first time in years as I frankly wouldn't give the man the steam off my p1sh. However, what I (and many other Jambos) don't need is to read the EXACT SAME comment over, and over, and over, and over, and over etc. I mean, who's turn is it on the rota to post that football finances link tomorrow?
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Little Bleeder,

30/06/2008 13:51:05
_93_I mean, who's turn is it on the rota to post that football finances link tomorrow?__

Why till tomorrow?

http://www.football-finances.org.uk/
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Salvatori,

30/06/2008 13:58:06
Question is who else is on VR's short list? After McGhee it's been a case of sticking a pin to a list of names and seeing who might just accept, rather than looking at the achievements of availble managers and then going out and targetting them.

Robers CV, aside from a reasonably successful spell woth Hertha, didn't exactly excite. After coming off the back of several usuccessful appointments and currently unemployed, Rober would have fitted VR's "2nd chance saloon candidtate selection policy" perfectly - ( i.e. a beggar not chooser in the Valdas / Rix mould)and so he thought, unlikely to baulk at VR's interference. Wrong.

The fact remains - being a player at Tynie right now must be bad - no decent coaching structure / scouting system to talk of - an utter shambles. Glad I've banked my ST money.
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Little Bleeder,

30/06/2008 14:17:16
_95_Question is who else is on VR's short list?



http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Italian_Studies/DP/projects/thesea/images/pinocchioDisney1.jpg
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Jim Baxter,

Alicante 30/06/2008 14:19:56
Next coach at Tynecastle? Romanov Senior will wear the tracksuit and pick the team as per normal. Nobody else would take up his offer of been a puppet.Far to many strings attached to the post for any good coach to take up the appointment even with top wages.Its a sad fact but Hearts are on the way down. This new Stand will end up a no goer as well wait and see. Any fan that says things are not as bad as that, well I hope you are right but I doubt it very much.
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Hibernianinc,

30/06/2008 14:34:31
# 93

Fair do's. For the sake of non-believers sanity, I'll leave the rest to be lead by the piper.
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..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

30/06/2008 16:43:46
#74 CORGY

What a HOOT, Eh Muchacho
I mean...one HUMP fighting with ANOTHER Hump about who is the biggest HUMP/
Hee Haww CORGY, HEE HAWW
(Everybody HUMPS Hearts)
PS Reduced to deletions again I see....Tee Hee Hee !!
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..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

30/06/2008 16:46:03
#88 IRK
...and where Muchacho, does it say that you MUST support any ONE team to post here, Eh??
Brainless Hump
(Everybody HUMPS Hearts)

You deleting too these days Eh?? Tee Hee Hee
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Xacobeo Hearts,

Santiago de Compostela, Galiza Y España 30/06/2008 23:14:48
Today, I really, really, really don't care!!!

Last night reminded me about the true joy of football and just for today I refuse to be driven in the other direction by Vlad.

Which reminds of the semi-final:

ESPAÑA 3 VLADLAND 0

I do like the Russian team but Vlad old boy, you really can't well and truly stick that result up your old submariners a****

Campeones, campeones etc etc
84

Dekester,

Canada's westcoast 01/07/2008 03:56:50
Hearts fans must really be mugs. I was at their training facility out by the university, shortly before the Tynecastle three came out and aired their concerns.

We were upstairs by cafe and could feel the air of dis-content. Those 3 were brave men. Foolish and self serving some would say. However look at how their respective careers have developed. All 3 have their heads held high.

Hearts fans, swallow your pride, ask for a refund of your S.T.and go and support a local junior team

Let Hearts flounder. Allow for new ownership to right the ship and carry on.

All the best.

85

..TARTAN~PIMPERNEL,

01/07/2008 07:58:31
~73 and 74
Nice to see that the squabbles at DECLINE CASTLE aren't just confined to players and management team. Even ordinary HUMPS are getting tore into each other like ferrets in a bag............and don't the rest of us just LUV it
CORGY....it's not OUR posts you need to delete...its your own squabbles that are THE most embarrassing thing for you numpties
HEE HAWW MUCHACHO, HEE HAWW !!
(Everybody HUMPS Hearts)

 

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