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Fletcher move to Madrid is 'smoke in the air' says Paatelainen



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Published Date: 05 June 2008
HIBERNIAN manager Mixu Paatelainen arrived at Easter Road yesterday with an intention to discuss his side's forthcoming friendly with Barcelona but was helpless to prevent the subject of a certain other Spanish club cropping up.
A link between striker Steven Fletcher and Real Madrid had again made the news that morning in a transfer story that has proved as enduring as it is startling. A report claimed Real Madrid are preparing to offer the Easter Road club £3 million for the striker, who is under contract until 2013.

Hence the reason Paatelainen was asked to contemplate Real Madrid as well as Barcelona, who Hibs face at Murrayfield stadium in a glamour friendly on 24 July. It was a novel experience for a Hibs manager and not an altogether welcome one.

Paatelainen flatly denied there has been contact between Hibs and the celebrated Spanish club. This being football, though, there does not need to be contact – not at an official level anyway.

Real Madrid have already proved this with their subliminal courtship of Manchester United winger Ronaldo. Paatelainen sought to make it clear that his own prized asset was not about to move to the Bernabéu stadium.

"I don't want to waste your time or my time talking about it because there is nothing (in it]," he said.

However, The Scotsman understands that contact has been made between a Real Madrid official and the player's representatives. Fletcher, who scored 14 goals last season, is certainly on the radar of Real Madrid, who had him watched when he made his Scotland debut against Croatia on the night of his 21st birthday in March. The story refuses to go away but Paatelainen was not intending for it to spoil his imminent holiday. He described the Real Madrid link to Fletcher as "smoke in the air" at Easter Road yesterday.

"It must make us very bad negotiators because he was worth £5 million a couple of weeks ago and it is £3 million now," he added wryly.

Neither sum had made an impact on Fletcher, reported Paatelainen. His reaction was one of apparent amusement.

"I spoke to him (Fletcher] earlier," said Paatelainen. "He was just laughing. There is no effect on him at all. He is having a break after a long season and in order to be ready for pre-season training."

Paatelainen said he was not concerned by the speculation either. "It doesn't bother me because there is nothing in it," he shrugged. "Why talk about things that are not there? It is smoke in the air."

But the Finn did stress that Fletcher would be best served by remaining at the Easter Road club as he bids to become a more complete player.

"Development is always the most important thing with any player, and the same applies to Fletcher," he said. "He knows he has weaknesses. He is not quite ready to play at the highest possible standard. But he is certainly on his way there. You are never a complete player."

Paatelainen is keen for this spirit of perfectionism to exist within the players even when they are on a brief holiday. The first-team squad is due back at East Mains training centre in less than three weeks' time and each has been given a training programme to follow in their time away. "I am hoping the boys don't rest for four weeks," he smiled. "You only need a week. Some are training in Jamaica and others are training in East Mains."

His own project when away from the club is the pursuit of new signings, with Hibs' season starting on 6 July when they face HB Torshavn of the Faroes or Swedish side IF Elfsborg in the InterToto Cup.

Paatelainen on benji, page 66


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  • Last Updated: 04 June 2008 10:40 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Hibernian FC
 
1

bring them on,

05/06/2008 00:53:46
A link between Fletcher and Real Madrid?

I think not...
2

HibeeMuzz,

05/06/2008 01:22:15
Taxi for #1
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jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 05/06/2008 01:24:55
Mixu - Fletcher would be best staying at easter road to become a more complete player.Well of course he could never manage that at Real.Your managers a muppet.
Oh ma sides.
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05/06/2008 01:30:20
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bring them on,

05/06/2008 01:33:51
Real only sign quality.

Fletcher is average
6

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

05/06/2008 01:35:43
#3

Your managers a pipe dream.
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Willie,

05/06/2008 02:48:01
If Real Madrid have made an illegal approach to a player under contract against FIFA rules then the Scotsman as a campaigning Newspaper should send the dossier to FIFA.
Problem is the so called evidence as usual is a figment of the reporter's over ripe imagination. It sells newspapers whether it is true or not.
The Scotsman will soon rival the Beano and Dandy as a comic!!
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jamtart,

Beechboro 05/06/2008 02:56:39
#7 get a grip
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Willie,

05/06/2008 03:39:42
# Given the comments your fellow jambos have written about the sports reporters of this newpaper I was quite mild.
Anyway How is Perth Glory these days?
10

ozdon,

Melbourne Australia 05/06/2008 05:12:38
You Jamtarts just will not give up!!!!!!!!! At least we have a Manager what have your lot got?????????? Keep thinking it won't take you long, YOU'VE GOT NOTHING YOU MUPPETS
11

bring them on,

05/06/2008 06:04:32
I like Hearts.
12

neil7908,

California 05/06/2008 06:05:29
Seriously, I know its close season but there must be some other news stories about players coming and going out of ER that deserve more attention than this from the media?
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deeks rearend,

05/06/2008 07:26:38
mare chance o me getting a game for the tic than fletch for madrid
14

jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 05/06/2008 07:48:44
G'Day Willie,
Given that aussie soccer is probably the worst in the world and Perth Glory are the worst team in the league,not to flash even the Jambo's are better.

#10 in sunny Melbourne if Mixu qualifies as a manager I think we are better off as we are.You sound a bit simple maybe a couple of slices short of a sandwich do you barrack for Collingwood by any chance?Here's another new word for you - windae licker.

#11 I like you.

Mon the JT'S
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05/06/2008 07:56:18
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Phil C,

05/06/2008 08:03:43
Why would Real want Fletcher? I can see why Fletcher would want to go to Real. He's a good player and he belives in himself, but the truth is that there are a loads of better ones around and Real aren't exactly short of money! Mind you if the Jambos can get £10 million for Gordon then Hibs could get a few bob for Fletcher with all this fuss.
17

hibbyspurs,

05/06/2008 08:09:52
#15

"Why do Hibs think all their young players are good"

Errrr... correct me if I'm wrong here but Real having an interest (which has been confirmed by REal themselves) in Fletcher is nothing to do with Hibs thinking the players good ya numpty. It's got something to do with someone connected with Real thinking hes good or has potential to be so that has started this....

You know... Hibs didnt phone up the Bernabau and say "look, we've got a player here we think is really good, fancy gieing us somewehere in the region of £3M for him?"...... of course Reals chairman at thisp point says "No problemo senor, I will have he funds wired directly, thank you for drawing how good your player was to our attention, its no matter to us that we havent seen him play senor, we still give you muchos cash on basis of you thinking he is good no? Buenos Dias"

Aye, thats how a club like Real Madrid work ya nobber... They think hes good as well, your jeaoulsy over the fact that we can produce a player capable of interesting Real Madrid at such a young age is laughable, but hey you away and hold out for your £2M for Berra..... from.... Ohhhh I forgot.

Muppet.
18

Jambo-ree,

05/06/2008 08:12:40
"Smoke in the air". Aye, but there's no smoke without fire according to the old saying.
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hibbyspurs,

05/06/2008 08:22:07
#18

Exactly, which is why I dont get how so many of your like minded friends just see this as some big joke when Real Madrid themselves have admitted hes on a "list" of theirs.

Its been made quite clear by Real as well that hes not exactly going to be playing for their first team next season if he does go but sent out on loan to another Spanish club for further development with a view to them coaching him into a player for them in the future.

I can understand why Real are going down this road now, it must get a little frustrating paying well over the odds for 28-30 year olds because your Real Madrid so why not pick up some 4 or 5 young players for the same price as 1 established player and if 2 of them turn out to be first team players for them then they've done good business.

You can even see Hibs are trying to jack the price up because its Real with Mixus £5m comment. At this point in his carrer theres no way I'd be giving Hibs £5m for him but then again Real may just pay this because they are Real.
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hibbyspurs,

05/06/2008 08:25:32
#19

TBH if someone offered you £5 for Jose G. I'd take their hands off, never mind £500K.
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porters at 9,

9 o'clock porters 05/06/2008 08:38:09
looks like hibbyspurs never got a ride this morning..
chill pill big man
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05/06/2008 08:39:02
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05/06/2008 09:19:33
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Johnny Jambo,

05/06/2008 09:22:14
Why does the manager need to comment on stories like this, why are they generated in the first place that is my question, whilst I understand that occasionally we will see a real first class and quality player coming through in Scotland and we know that Real Madrid have a massive scouting network for their players so this is kind of business as usual for Madrid.
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05/06/2008 09:33:40
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We love fitba,

google! 05/06/2008 09:37:25
Mixu is a gregarious character who likes to chat, but I do sometimes worry he talks himself into trouble. He certainly managed to noise up some people from the dug out last season and he needs to handle this situation delicately. Strikers often need to believe they are the best player on the planet in order to do their job, even if they clearly aren't.

It would be better for Hibs and Fletcher himself if he stayed at Hibs for another season. I don't think the club can afford to lose him, even at £5m. Although Petrie would have to fight with himself to turn down that kind of money!
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hibbyspurs,

05/06/2008 09:47:40
#22

Porters at 9? Make mine a double... Jocks lodge at 11 then is it?
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05/06/2008 09:50:58
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baroda,

Spain 05/06/2008 10:06:43
Fletcher could always catch a plane to Madrid and have a holiday as thats the only way he will get there.
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hibbyspurs,

05/06/2008 10:28:06
#31

Awa & bile yer heid, preferably in sulphuric acid.

YOu constantly bemoan Hibs supporters commenting on Hearts threads like they are soley there for hearts fans to read & post on.

Hearts fans are more than welcome to post on hibs threads as far as I'm concerned.

This isnt Hibs.net, Kickback or any other secular site, this is a national newspapers site offering the opportunity for fans of all clubs to comment on sports stories and to encourage OPEN debate.

If you cant deal with that (and it becomes more obvoius everyday that you cant) then why dont you just stick to kickback or some similar site? Or have they all booted you off the Hearts sites as they've realised what a trumpet you are?
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mon-the-hertz,

edinburgh 05/06/2008 10:31:14
#32 The chat about Fletcher and Real Madrid comes from sources over than website speculation. At the Motherwell Hearts game at Fir Park I was sitting up in front of the press box and listened intently into a conversation taking place between what turned out to be Fletchers agent and one of his journalist pals. The bottom line was that Fletcher was genuinely on the Real Madrid radar. For all we know there could be a 100 players getting monitored by Real but the fact is Fletcher is/was one of them.
I say 'was' because there's every chance the re-emergance of this story is due to pr work by Fletcher's agent who for his own and his players benefit knows that stories like this keep Fletcher in the public eye and raise his value. Whether Real are still interested we don't know. Also of interest was that his agent said he didn't think Fletcher would improve under Mixu so this could all be part of an agenda to seek a move out of ER over the summer. He also added an Italian team had noted interest but said that was a no-goer.

#4 "fletcher wont go to real....the old firm arent even interested in him"

What, like free transfer and European Cup Winner Paul Lambert? Sometimes world class managers can see how players will fit into a team.
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Indie Rep Kid,

05/06/2008 11:20:03
#27

1) No Manager - rather none than Mix-hoof
2) Player Exodus at tynie - selling prized assets (familiar?)
3) Mechano Stadium - constantly praised for its atmosphere.
4) Season ticket slump - a slight fall but still much more sold than expected
5) Largest debt in Scottish football (with no assets) - errrr....Tynie? Still too big though!
6) No sign of any "Warchest" for summer signings - who said there was? A poster on here? kickback?
7) Graeme Souness and Richard Gough double act?? - You rate Mixu above Souness (a manager of Premiership experience, played in Europe's top leagues etc)
8) Players being sold like velicka with no profit? - and who never cost us anything in the first place (repaid any salary and more with goals against hibs)
9) threat of liquidation hanging over thier heads? - yaaaawwwnn....are we going into administration AGAIN?
10) Just generally being complete erseholes - you say "ersehole", I say "fine upstanding members of the community"!

apart fromthat, I enjoyed your post, Dubs!
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05/06/2008 11:22:54
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Lenny,

05/06/2008 11:49:10
A real shame Iv been too busy to post on here recently. Its like groundhog day. I dont really see what you Hearts fans have got to shout about just now, but whatever makes you happy I guess.
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hibbyspurs,

05/06/2008 12:02:32
#38

I'm not you imbeciele, I only took someone to task on their viewpoint that it was Hibs who has stirred up this Real Madrid story.

The blokes welcome to his opinion, it just doesnt have any value in reality.

Much like you say about many Hibs posts on Hearts threads? In fact any post that doent fit with your love of all things maroon, Romanov, new stands etc etc etc is derided by you.

I grant you there are some tubes on the threads on here and we all know who they are but your problem Victor is that no one is allowed an opinion on a hearts thread unless:

A) That opinion comes from you
B) Agrees with any opinion yo might have
C) Does not in any way question your clubs owners
D) Assures all readers that all is rosy in the garden down tynie way
E) does not come from a supporter of any club other than Hearts.

This is why I think youd be better off on kickback as at least then you can kid yourself on that "all is well", "nothing to see here"..... That way you could leave reasoned debate to the adults on the open website....
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Indie Rep Kid,

05/06/2008 12:07:32
#40 Just a small point, hibbyspurts: if you think kickback is pro-Vlad then you've clearly not been on it since October 2005.

These days, Vladsheep are treated like village idiots.
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hibbyspurs,

05/06/2008 12:09:57
#41 IRK

I wouldnt know, I dont visit sites that dont concern myclub (its a little childish to wind up opposing fans by popping up on these sites), sorry I just picked kickback as an example.

I asuume victorian is treated like a village idiot then?
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Indie Rep Kid,

05/06/2008 12:18:36
#42 Can't understand why anyone would waste their time on another club's forum - got better things to do with my time than worry about hibs.

Vic's the in-house bitch
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obi,wan,

banana republic 05/06/2008 12:25:57
yeeehhaaahhh managed to log on:} anyway to add a bit of class to this site why is that mixu bloke so f****G ugly?:} hhgh .p.s. It is so frustrating trying to log on to these threads since the new format last year.have lost count of how many new passwords I've had to get sent by e mail,does anybody else in OZ have this problem.
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Big T,

05/06/2008 12:31:49
How many more days can they keep running this dross?
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obi,wan,

banana republic 05/06/2008 12:32:33
love reading all the posts on here especially when your stuck down under,hope to get back to auld reekie next year and catch a couple of games.glad I didn't go back last year as I would have been totally confused thinking that the jambo's had swapped strips with the hibees.p.s. why are all the hibee posters such dissilusioned nasty little characters
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Pedantic,

Edinburgh 05/06/2008 13:09:49
31 hibbyspurs,

Get a grip will you? "OPEN Debate" you quote yet your comments do anything but debate, they are regularly childish, insulting or provocative at best.
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A Jambo come rain or shine,

05/06/2008 13:14:37
Hibbyspurs - it's way back at post 17 when you made some childish "knobber" remarks to poster 15 acusing him of being a Hearts fan but i've got a feeling he's from the west on the basis of his username and comment after it - please apologise to all Hearts fans on this thread for linking us to one of the ugly sisters.
Thanks
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05/06/2008 13:25:10
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A Jambo come rain or shine,

05/06/2008 14:05:24
#49 The old firm? Aye, diddy teams in the grand scheme of things!
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05/06/2008 14:15:29
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Neutral Observer,

05/06/2008 14:44:59
#31 Victorian

Seems to be an obsession here with macho guys wearing frilly knickers. I see your true colour shining through!
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A Jambo come rain or shine,

05/06/2008 14:49:24
#51 And so they should be with the finances they have from 50,000 + fans every other week plus the global support. I'd suggest they should win their games much more comfortably but they don't. In the grand scheme of things, the old firm are wee fish in a big pond!
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LTYF,

05/06/2008 15:24:36
#19 Proddy Jambo - Fletcher is signed to Hibs until 2013, so we have until 2011 to worry about his buy out clause. Just how much did you get for Webster ya plum?

Oh, just remind me, how many Hearts players are disillusioned with Vlads tatics?
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05/06/2008 15:50:03
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Mike D W,

05/06/2008 17:30:09
#55

Quite correct. All teams in Scotland outside the Old Firm are pretty much diddy teams. The Old Firm clubs are huge by any standards. On this we agree.

However, where we differ is that you revel in this fact, whereas I think that it is to the abiding shame of Scottish football that everything gravitates towards these two behemoths.

I, unlike many Old Firm supporters, support my local team. I have watched them play wonderful football and, more often than not, watched some turgid rubbish from Hibs. However, I will always support them no matter how diddy they are.

Just remember that if it was not for us proud diddy supporters of these quaint diddy teams, you would just be two huge clubs with no one to play against but each other.

Actually, here's a good idea. Why dont you two just have OF derbies each week and leave us diddy teams to enjoy our football?
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Waspy100,

05/06/2008 21:50:29
#56
Cmon lad!
Cant have sensible posts spoiling the forums for the primates can we?
Am a jambo and could not agree with you more.
There are no bad football teams only some that are better than others.
Same with players. If a player makes the grade and wants to move on who can blame him.
I certainly would not.

Slainte

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