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Hibs 1-0 Motherwell: Nish adds the quality to keep Hibs in race for third



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Published Date: 13 March 2008
WHILE the Old Firm fight it out at the top of the SPL, the three-way battle for third is proving just as engrossing and could also remain unresolved until the last few games of the season.
Motherwell have been the form team outwith the big two for much of the campaign, and Dundee United have been there or thereabouts too, but this hard-fought victory for Hibernian, achieved thanks to a piece of real quality from Colin Nish, may repre
sent the turning of the tide in favour of the Edinburgh club. Although Hibs had Ian Murray sent off ten minutes from time, they deserved the three points.

"Obviously Motherwell are above us, so it's a great scalp," the Hibs manager Mixu Paatelainen said afterwards. "Our defence did really well, and I thought we deserved the victory thoroughly. It was a great goal. Nishy kept his composure so well."

Motherwell manager Mark McGhee was not too downhearted on a night which saw his team drop to fourth thanks to United's point at Celtic. "It was a very close game between] two well-matched sides," he said. "The goal was poor – poor defending from us."

Motherwell still have a game in hand on Hibs, and two on United, but their run-in to the split is by far the most difficult. Besides playing both of those rivals they play Celtic twice and also meet Rangers. Hibs also have to play Rangers, but their other matches are against Kilmarnock and St Mirren.

There was an unfamiliar look to the Hibs defence, and that perhaps partially explained the hesitancy with which the home team began the game. With Thierry Gathuessi injured and Abderraouf Zarabi on the bench, Martin Canning and Ian Murray took over at right and left-back respectively. Up front Nish, like Canning, returned to the team after being cup-tied against Rangers, while in midfield Filipe Morais and Merouane Zemmama were the other additions.

McGhee brought Steve McGarry in to replace Keith Lasley, and also gave a debut to Bob Malcolm, who slotted in at right-back.

His team began far more brightly, and had apparently been issued with shoot-on- sight instructions. Twice in the opening few minutes Ross McCormack let fly at goal, and then Stephen Hughes produced an effort which Yves Makalambay managed to gather properly only at the second attempt.

Towards the midway point of the half, however, Hibs began to make inroads through the middle, and Zemmama had three chances in as many minutes to open the scoring. His first attempt was a shot which Graeme Smith parried out. Steven Fletcher followed up, but the goalkeeper again saved.

Zemmama next came close with a free-kick which he curled in from the far left only for Smith to turn it round the post. Having trained his sights on goal, the Moroccan then embarked on a solo run. He left three Motherwell players trailing in his wake and then shot from 20 yards, but again Smith was equal to the challenge.

The game needed a goal, and it came six minutes into the second half. It might be described as a solo effort by Nish, but the big striker owed a lot to his colleagues for the space they created for him. Collecting a pass from Zemmama, Nish raced down the left and into the box. He feinted to pass left and instead cut inside two defenders, then skipped past a third. For a second he thought about shooting, but, seeing Smith come out of his goal, first steered the ball clear of the keeper and only then shot into the unguarded net.

Motherwell did not let their heads go down, though, and moments later Malcolm had the ball in the net after Makalambay had only blocked a free-kick. The flag was already up for offside, so the effort did not count.

With ten minutes to play Murray was dismissed for a second yellow card. His first had come after he impeded Ross McCormack; his second was for a sliding challenge on Hughes. The referee indicated that he had also committed other fouls before the first booking, but even so it was a harsh decision on an evening when the left-back was far from the only player indulging in meaty tackles. Among them was Motherwell's Malcolm, whose misdemeanours included a minor push on a ball boy. Paul Hanlon came on to shore up the defence, and Hibs held on.

Hibernian: Makalambay, Canning, Hogg, Jones, I Murray, Morais (Hanlon 81), Zemmama (Benjelloun 77), Kerr (Chisholm 43), Rankin, Nish, Fletcher. Subs not used: McNeil, McCann, O'Brien, Donaldson. Sent Off: Murray (80). Booked: Murray, Nish.

Motherwell: G Smith, Malcolm (D Smith 82), Reynolds, Craigan, Hammell, Hughes, Fitzpatrick, McGarry (Lappin 58), Porter, McCormack, Clarkson. Subs not used: Daniels, McLean, Lasley, C Murray, Murphy. Booked: Hammell.



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1

KingKenny,

13/03/2008 00:10:09
Good Play Hibs and Motherwell..Happy Happy.
2

Silence of the Yams,

13/03/2008 00:11:20
Still think you're finishing above the Hibs, Yams? No chance!!
3

bonspeil,

13/03/2008 00:45:28
#2 Given that this could be the 6th time in 25 years Hibs have finished above Hearts I can see why you're getting excited. It would be a terrific achievement.

However, taking into account that Hearts, along with D Utd, could be one of the main beneficiaries if Gretna game results are discounted, plus the fact that Hibs have two tricky games coming up against Killie and Rangers, Hearts could conceivably be within a couple of points in two weeks time. Then, with Kingston and Stewart due back, it's down to the derbies!

(Plus, of course this is traditionally the time of year when Hibs start imploding and your chairman has failed to strengthen your squad significantly to cover for possible injuries despite raking in over 10m.) But no, no it is entirely possible you will finish above us, especially with our inconsistency.
4

mrhibs07,

13/03/2008 01:37:07
#3
Dream on muppet. GGTTH
5

Brendan the Scozzie,

Work 13/03/2008 01:59:56
Good win for the Hibees - especially since they played the first 43 minutes with 10-men until Kerr was subbed. I was reading the live BBC text on the game and the first mention of Kerr was at 33 minutes 'Kerr handball. Freekick awarded' The second mention was when he was pulled off. What an oxygen thief. What is Mixu up to? Ma Granny (no relation to Ma Kalambay)could do better
6

Sas,

Edinburgh 13/03/2008 03:07:38
#5 And you're qualified to comment on how bad a player was when you didn't even see the game?!? Are you Mary Whitehouse in disguise ....."I didn't actually watch this programme but it was disgusting"?
7

Cammy,

Craigleith 13/03/2008 04:14:13
It was the best of games, it was the worst of games.

Anyhoo, it's the points that win prizes and we have the points. Kerr wasn't that bad and worked hard. Best to judge by being at the game and not from a computer.

Hogg was great, Jones was solid and cleared our lines well. Get Ian Murray signed now..., played very well again.

Our midfield struggled to get a hold of things and our passing was patchy, but on the whole we deserved the win. Motherwell created very little.
8

Cammy,

Craigleith 13/03/2008 04:20:28
Isn't it funny how Hearts fan are now banking on Gretna to save their season. One bankrupt club depending on another. :)

Perhaps they could share a stadium......
9

Baku_Hibby,

Baku 13/03/2008 04:39:58
No 5# I watched the Hibs game on Internet and up until Kerr was subsituted he was one of our more effective players in that holding role.
10

Brendan the Scozzie,

Holding his hands up... 13/03/2008 05:30:58
Your right I didn't see the game only read about it and there's no mention of Kerr in any reports either. I'm biased I admit. When i have seen him I thought he was crap. So when the one time he is mentioned its about a hand ball I thought - what a great contributor he was. All others got mentions of intercepting, blocking, clearing etc but Kerr - nothin.
If he is playing well I'd expect to hear his name mentioned now and then. I just reckon we could do better. But there again - I've been wrong before...
11

SouthSideHibs,

13/03/2008 06:24:19
Brendan #10 - they probably didn't comment on how well he 'marked space' or how well he passed it back five yards to the player who'd just given it to him.
12

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 13/03/2008 07:48:36
Good Victory last night with two teams going for the win. Motherwell started the better with a fast passing game running over the Hibs Midfield, however the Hibs got into their passing game midway through the first half and should have scored around the 25 minute mark. Into the second half and Motherwell had a good shout for a penalty in the first minute, and if it had been at the other end I would have wanted one.

Nish scored a great goal when he rounded at least 3 defenders then drew the goalie and slotted it into the net. This boy is looking a great buy for us at the moment and long may it continue.

Poor decision from the ref on the first Murray booking but couldn't argue with the second one.

Hibs held on well at the end with 10 men and deserved their victory.

Onwards and upwards for the Boys.

Do Ha Ha Hearts have a Manager yet?
13

kiwidoug,

22 In a Row 13/03/2008 08:22:42
Great to see Hibs having something minor to celebrate.

Is this the closest they have been to actually winning the league since the early 1950s?
14

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 13/03/2008 08:24:46
# 2 Silence of the Yams

Why the F... do you have to start a Hibs thread with an insulting commment about Hearts??

Are you so inadequate????

You are a typical Hobo Fud that gives good Hibs supporters a bad name.

Don't even bother to respond because anything you post will be your usual typical worthless guff.

You are obviouslly easily please if all you can do is crow about finishing above us for the occasional season.
15

kiwidoug,

22 In A Row 13/03/2008 08:33:28
Rambo - who are these good Hibs supporters?

I have never met or heard of them.
16

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 13/03/2008 08:49:00
# 15 kiwidoug,

If you read the Edinburgh Evening News posts you can usually suss out the good from the bad.

Lenny, Big Rob the Hibbie and Dublin Hibs....OK for some banter.

The rest like Mixu 6-2, Laughing at the Jambos etc are total Fuds and not worth bothering about
17

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 13/03/2008 08:50:02
Looks like you can add It's only a game to the list.
18

petegeneva,

geneva 13/03/2008 08:53:09
#13 well we have actually been top of the league this season (OK for 24 hours, I grant you).
You on the other hand have been kept out of last place by a club that will probably no longer exist by the end of today.
Take any spin you like but we are actually still in the race for Europe while the best you can hope for is to reach the top six.
19

mrhibs07,

Trucking About 13/03/2008 08:59:56
#13
#14
It really is sticking in yer craw, that Hibs are the better team. Get over it. GGTTH. Good win for the team from the Leith San Siro.
20

Prof,

13/03/2008 09:22:12
#2 You'll be interested in this. When (not if) Gretna go bust today, all matches played against Gretna are automatically wiped out. As a result the gap between Hibs and Hearts will be reduced from 8 points to 4. Similarly the gap between Dundee Utd and Hibs instead of 2 points will become 8 points.
21

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 13/03/2008 09:27:41
.........OK

# 19 mrhibs07

Let's add Mr Hibs to the worthless Hobo Fuds pile.

Good win for the Leith San Giro??

Have you forgotten we beat them in Motherwell in the last league game.
22

wee162,

Sunny Leith 13/03/2008 09:29:28
#3 & #20
I can sense your glee about a team that is about to go out of business benefitting Hearts. I'd suggest you don't complain too much when Hibbies are celebrating Edinburgh becoming a one team city...
23

mrhibs07,

Trucking About 13/03/2008 09:33:33
#21
It's easy to remember your wins, as you haven't had that many, have you. Tool. And the Hibs go marching on.
24

Indie Rep Kid,

13/03/2008 09:34:32
#20 Would you back Hearts to catch hibs in that scenario? I wouldn't.

25

Prof,

13/03/2008 09:35:02
#22 Thats where you are wrong motor mouth. There is no glee about Gretna going bust but I did point out to that other eijit-don't start bragging until the season ends.
Only one club in Edinburgh has come close to going bust - Hibs, when your board tried to sell the club to the Great Wallace Mercer.
26

obi,wan,

banana republic 13/03/2008 09:36:03
Welcome back hobo's.where have you'se been all week after getting dumped out the s.c for the 107th time.bet you've been praying all week for a win so's you could come back on with your usual drivel.Are you's passing the hat around to save gretna? coz if u lose points europe could be gone:}
27

Hibernia,

13/03/2008 09:41:31
Well its good to see the Hearts fans coming on and gloating about the potential of their club getting a helping hand because of the Gretna situation. Thats what supporting a BIG team does for you I guess!

As for last night good win over Motherwell. GGTTH
28

Prof,

13/03/2008 09:51:06
#27 Nobody's gloating. Just pointing out what is likely to happen this afternoon.
29

Lenny,

13/03/2008 09:52:49
Prof

Just for the record the SPL rules state that if a club goes bust the points gained against that team 'MAY' be taken away from other teams. This is not a definate, although I do find it amusing that the Jambos are clinging to this idea in order to save their season.

re the game, a very important win. What a difference big Mixu has made. Another 3 points on Saturday and its looking good for at least a fighting chance of Europe.

Not really all that bothered about finishing above Hearts to be honest, this could be the norm in the next few years if Vlad doesnt change.
30

Prof,

13/03/2008 09:56:41
# 29 See you spent most of morning checking the rules. But grasping at straws, springs to mind.
31

Indie Rep Kid,

13/03/2008 09:59:15
#30 Read post #20 by some guy who has taken the time and effort to work out what would happen if Gretna's points get deducted. Serious grasping at straws going on.

Oh, it's by you.
32

Lenny,

13/03/2008 10:01:15
# 30 Prof

Grasping at Straws, after you hoping that Gretna fold to help Hearts. I do hope you are joking. Christ, you have a real weird way of looking at things mate.

I didnt need to check the rules by the way, I already knew them. Possibly in future you should try and know the facts before commenting on them.
33

wee162,

Sunny Leith 13/03/2008 10:03:40
#25
So when Wallace Mercers eulogies from some Jambos (with very short memories) came in saying that he had saved the club from obliteration, were they lying or simply mistaken?

Glee about Hearts potentially finishing above Hibs is exactly how it's coming across. Even if the price of that is another clubs very existence. Bitter people. Bitter club. When it's your turn, expect the exact same treatment in return.
34

petegeneva,

geneva 13/03/2008 10:05:08
#26
Actually we've been dumped out of the SC more than 107 times. As indeed have you. It's probably the "in-a-row-ness" that makes it important to you.
But don't let the fact that we actually stayed in the SC longer than you did this year get in the way of your petty and badly-formed argument.
If we lose the Gretna points it won't change the fact that we are far more likely than you lot to qualify for the UEFA.
Got a manager yet?

35

Van Nishtelroy,

Porto de Bello 13/03/2008 10:16:02
Good win for Hibs, like Barrack Obama, we're coming from behind to steal the SPL's UEFA cup nomination.

As for poor (sic) Gretna, their "Special Relationship" with Hearts should stand them in good stead. Vlad will bail them out, so he has somewhere to flit to when Gorgie has 300 more flats and one less stadium.

36

brownlie,

glasgow 13/03/2008 10:16:03
Romanov, in a super-market car park sees a little old lady struggling to put her messages in the car, goes over and says "Can you manage, dear" and she replied "Jeezo, I did'nt things were that bad at Tynie".
37

Prof,

13/03/2008 10:17:16
#32 Like others I am not full of glee that Gretna will fold, but I do find it highly amusing that Hibs will lose points because of it. Particularly after reading the self congratulatory drivel above.
By the way you probably didn't hear the discussion on the Radio last night as you were at ER, but the point deduction is definite.
What was the crowd last night - 17,000?
I await the usual personal insults with interest.

38

Lenny,

13/03/2008 10:22:45
Prof

self congratulatory drivel?? Man, you really have a strange and twisted hatred for Hibs dont you. Cant be good for your health.

the radio has it wrong I'm afraid. Was it Allan Preston saying this by chance? Check it up if you like, the rules state points 'MAY' be taken off. And the fact that this affects the Old Firm, I am willing to bet that points are NOT taken off.

But you really do come across like you cant wait for Gretna to go bust just to help your own teams league position. Hearts classless? Never!?!?
39

Lenny,

13/03/2008 10:24:22
And prof, what have I ever called you which is a personal insult? I have exchanged comments with you but thats about it.
40

wee162,

Sunny Leith 13/03/2008 10:26:19
#37
We'll lose points on Hearts, but far more importantly to me we'll lose points on Dundee Utd. As would Hearts. So you would actually be further away from a UEFA cup place than you are just now. Now that's something to smile about when you consider the retarded Jambos who claim they don't solely define their clubs existence by how they do against Hibs, and then look at the reaction to this. Bitter, bitter jambos.
41

Prof,

13/03/2008 10:46:53
Another interesting statistic. Last night's crowd at ER was 11,600 and lower that the 12,000 when you played Gretna. Are you guys losing interest?
42

Lenny,

13/03/2008 10:49:19
prof

Another interesting stat, 99% of your comments are about Hibs. Obsessed?
43

wee162,

Sunny Leith 13/03/2008 10:56:45
#41
Or is a game on a freezing cold March midweek night a game where a lot of people with kids who have STs don't go. Unlike Hearts we don't count ticket sales as the attendance, we count the people at the game. Old fashioned I know...
44

Prof,

13/03/2008 11:05:00
#42 No closer to 30%.
#43 Income is related to paid ticket sales. Thats why Hearts and Celtic use this system. Maybe Hibs don't have the technology?
45

Indie Rep Kid,

13/03/2008 11:09:46
oh dear LORD!!
46

Lenny,

13/03/2008 11:16:26
Prof 30%? Rubbish. Even on Hearts stories you always have a pop at Hibs.

By the way, are you Ronaldo stuffed England? I have a sneaky feeling you are.
47

Hibernia,

13/03/2008 11:18:33
Its quite impressive that Prof who seems to have a love for things maroon has such stats as Hibs attendances etc. Maybe he could tell the Hallucinist who was on the Evening News thet stats about how many goals Hibs strikers have scored compared to Hearts strikers this season...........
48

18 seventyfour,

heartsland 13/03/2008 11:26:49
#42,46, lenny, pot,kettle,black, you'r no real.
49

Lenny,

13/03/2008 11:34:42
18 seventyfour

Yes I go on Hearts stories, but not to always have a pop at them. There are many Jambos that you can have a good discussion with, they know who they are.
50

Prof,

13/03/2008 11:41:45
#46 Not guilty re Ronaldo.
51

Hobo Harry,

13/03/2008 11:50:18
#46 Lenny, As I read his posts I thought the same thing
52

Lenny,

13/03/2008 11:58:54
# 51 Hobo Harry

Jury is out on that one for sure. If he isnt, they should really hook up. They would get on like a hoose on fire.
53

wee162,

Sunny Leith 13/03/2008 12:13:39
#44
Or maybe Celtic & Hearts have both realised that falsely inflating their attendances means that it maintains a demand for STs that would not exist if the true crowd figures were published. Falsely portray demand as high, and then try and sell out supply. Fact is though that at both Tynecastle and Celtic Park you could buy a ticket in a public sale for any game this season, other than the OF game.
54

Pedantic_Hibee,

13/03/2008 12:17:22
I see Prof is back harping on about attendances.

It's the final retort of a beaten man and it's his age old "get out of jail card".

Administration is too good for his team.
55

Pazuzu,

13/03/2008 12:52:41
Prof:

Keep on dreaming, you know dreams never come true.
If relying on another teams demise is what gives you hope then you really are sad -

FACT: It will not happen.

More Facts:

Homofc will still be beneath HFC in the league.
Homofc will still be managerless.
Homofc will still be one of the most despised teams in the SPL outwith the ugly sisters.

I'm sure there's more to add, but I don't want you short circuiting your keyboard with your maroon tears, your keyboard has enuff splashes on it already and it's beginning to stick.

GGTTH




56

Hibbee_with_a_heart,

Confused state 13/03/2008 13:33:06
Can anyone tell me why The Scotsman no longer puts a Hibs link in the related topics of reports about Hibs. The most confusing one was the Ian Murray story the other day that only supplied a link to Rangers stories.
57

wee162,

Sunny Leith 13/03/2008 14:15:29
#56
[Jamboid style paranoia]It's because the media hates us as we are such a threat to the OF and they cheat us of our rightful praise[/Jamboid style paranoia]

Or they've made an erse of it.
58

bonspeil,

13/03/2008 15:06:01
#55 Here are some other Hibee "facts" wev've come to know and love over the last couple of years:

Hearts will be relegated within 2 years
Tynecastle will be facts within 2 years
Hearts won't get more than 2m for Gordon
Hearts won't sign Kingston permanently
No-one will buy Hearts players
Hibs will beat Hearts (every derby)
Hibs will take up their "rightful" place above hearts
John Collins is the best young manager in Scotland
Hibs have a conveyor belt of youth

Need I go on...

As for Hibs fans complaining about Jambos discussing the consequences of Gretna going under, take a look at yourselves. You've been jumping up and down with gle at the thought of Hearts going under for 3 years - you know it's your only way to get the upper hand in Edinburgh football.
59

wee162,

Sunny Leith 13/03/2008 15:25:31
#59
"You've been jumping up and down with gle at the thought of Hearts going under for 3 years - you know it's your only way to get the upper hand in Edinburgh football."
I take it you are currently not acquainted with that charming old anachronism "the league table"?

In the last 10 seasons Hearts have won 1 trophy as have Hibs. In the last 20 seasons both clubs have won 2. In the last thirty years both have still only won 2. In the last 40 years Hibs have won 3 trophies and Hearts still just the two. "The upper hand in Edinburgh football" is the equivalent of two bald men fighting over a comb.
60

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 13/03/2008 15:32:31
The rules of the game courtesy of Pitlochry Hibee on .net just in case any Hearts fans are interested.


"Club ceasing to play and be a member of the League

H5 If any Club in the League ceases to operate or to be member of the League

for any reason, its playing record in the League may be expunged and the

number of relegation places from the League shall be reduced accordingly."



So, not a foregone conclusion of points being expunged! and no relegation!!

"Upon determining that a breach of or failure to fulfil the Rules has been

established, the Board or, as the case may be, a Commission may:-

G6.1.1 give a warning as to future conduct;

G6.1.2 give a reprimand;

G6.1.3 impose a fine;

G6.1.4 annul the result of an Official Match;

G6.1.5 order that an Official Match be replayed;

G6.1.6 impose a deduction of points;

G6.1.7 award an Official Match (with such deemed score as it thinks

appropriate) to a Club;"
61

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 13/03/2008 15:34:54
#58

I always knew your lot were bemused by FACTS but to state the Tiny will be Facts... now that's a new one on us.
62

Lenny,

13/03/2008 15:57:14
# 61

He may mean Tynie will be FAXED? Only that happens before every game.
63

bonspeil,

13/03/2008 16:42:09
#61 I obviously meant flats, but whatever. To your point at #59. Hibs have only finished above Hearts five times in the last 25 seasons. In local terms that's not even a rivalry yet we constantly hear Hibs fans say their "rightful" place is above Hearts.
64

Fit o' the walk Jambo,

13/03/2008 16:56:47
bonspeil, they have the worst derby record in Europe as well and have this blind defiance thinking they will ever get near being Edinburgh's main team.Like you say,the only way they will ever get the chance to be Edinburgh's number 1 team is by Hearts going under which they have prayed about for the past few years.
65

FFF,

13/03/2008 18:20:34
#56 Hibbee_with_a_heart

It's been annoying me since it started way back on the 5th. The last stories under the 'Hibernian' banner being about Cannings ineligibility for the Rankers game. I emailed Scotsman Publications Tech Support but have had no reply.

I thought I was the only one it was affecting 'cos no-one else has mentioned it.
66

FFF,

13/03/2008 18:23:19
...Oh!...and I'll vote for the 'Ronaldo Stuffed England' being 'prof'. Always loved his attendance statistics did Ronaldo.
67

FFF,

13/03/2008 18:26:29
#64

There There!

Group hug?
68

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 13/03/2008 18:56:27
#63 Bonspeil,

Please don't attach any numbers to my user name and try to start an argument.

Look at the numbers and the people posting them before trying to find your facts (fax)...Flats.

You are obviously a bit frazzled today as the Mighty Hi-bees are a Massive 8(eight) points in front of your mob.

That's until the Gretna situation gives was to a Ha Ha Hearts rally in the final part of the season...not.
69

bonspeil,

13/03/2008 19:22:33
#68 Does that count as you gloating before you've actually achieved something? Sure sounds like it. So now myself and other Hearts fans can constantly comment on Hibs stories hoping your club goes under because you had the temerity to gloat and acclaim "success"? That's the rationale that comes over for the behaviour of the Hibs fans who infest this website with ill-informed nonsense. I'm sure you understand that over 2 or 3 years, constantly hearing how your club is going to go bankrupt, be turned into flats, etc, might mean that you will get some comeback now and then. If you can't dish it out, and all that....

But no, no you celebrate finishing above, what are we, the biggest joke in British football before the season's even over. As the self-proclaimed "best run club" in Britain, nay the world, it will be very embarrassing if you don't . No pressure...

At least you've now got the excuse - already being used - that if Hearts finish above you it'll be because of Gretna. Just have to make sure we finish 3 points above you then won't we? Enjoy.
70

wee 162,

Sunny Leith 13/03/2008 20:31:53
#69
You would note that you would still be in 7th place and far from certain to finish in the top six. No change really from the Jambos point of view I would have thought.

And we'll have nothing to celebrate if we don't get in Europe. Difference is that we define success as more than finishing above Jongleurs FC. An interesting timeframe the Jambos are selecting for this particular argument about finishing ahead of us btw. Presumably you will be deliberately avoiding the previous few seasons since you were continuously either in the 1st division, or absolutely struggling in the top league.
71

bonspeil,

13/03/2008 21:00:15
#70 If you actually follow the thread, you'll see one of your mob asked a question as to whether Hearts had a chance of finishing above Hibs. The answer is clearly yes, especially considering Gretna ramifications. As for timing, well duh - it just happened yesterday!
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wee 162,

Edinburgh 14/03/2008 00:20:28
#71
I was talking about the timeframe of 25 years. It's a bit of a coincidence that period stops just about exactly when Hearts were spending three of 4 seasons outside the top league, and when preceding that Hibs were continuously finishing ahead of the self-proclaimed big team...

Assuming Hibs finish ahead of the big team this season that would be 4 of the last 10 seasons where we've finished ahead of you. Do it next season as well and it will be exactly even between the clubs over the last 10 years. To finish ahead of Hibs and let you sustain your wee fantasy of being a big club you are at the last count c.£30m in debt (when are Hearts accounts coming out btw?) So you should enjoy your 25 years stat. For now.
73

Fit o' the walk Jambo,

14/03/2008 06:02:59
#72 You Hobos fantasise all the time and I'd be embarrassed comparing your weeteam compared to Hearts.3 times in 20 years you've finished above us?? That is embarrassing and so is your worst derby record in Europe!! Dissapear you complete deluded Hobo muppet.You'll never achieve half of what Hearts have.
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obi,wan,

banana republic 14/03/2008 09:35:28
I wouldn't say i was gloating over the gretna situation i just find it amusing that hubs could lose some points in thier quest for european fitba.same for the bears they could almost lose top spot.to be honest I don't think the jambo's are ready for europe with current squad and have left it too late.on the other hand hubs are not really ready for europe either imo:}
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wee162,

Sunny Leith 14/03/2008 11:40:54
#73
Half of what Hearts have? 4 league titles in 134 years? Same as Hibs then. You've been the best side in Scotland exactly the same number of times as Hibs. Europe? Get back to me when you've reached two European semi finals. History and tradition? Aye your route one industrial football has had the purists gushing about you since records began right enough. You are currently probably more famous than Hibs. Only for being a complete laughing stock around the world though.

I am also particularly amused at the "worst derby record in Europe" line that you cretins continually trot out. Based on what statistic? Number of wins? Percentage of games won? Both categorically not the case.

The tragedy for the Jambo is that you actually think a good derby record makes you a big side. None of you ever seem to notice that no-one outside Tynecastle cares. I can see why you clutch at that particular straw though, after all if you want to keep calling yourself a big side you have to base it on something factual other than your usual self delusions.

 

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