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Murray pours scorn on talk of Paatelainen quitting Hibs



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Published Date: 12 August 2008
HIBS fans looking for some much-needed good news were handed a double dose of it yesterday. A draw for the Co-operative Insurance Cup that could have been much worse was followed by a robust show of public support for under-fire manager Mixu Paatelainen from an established player at Easter Road.
Hibs will host First Division Morton in the second round later this month, and Ian Murray is confident that the team will have stemmed an extended run of poor form by then. Murray, who missed his side's opening day defeat to Kilmarnock due to suspens
ion, knows Paatelainen as well as anyone at Easter Road, and has backed him to turn things around after Hibs clocked up a 12th game without victory on Saturday.

The side have struggled to replace quality players with those of the same standard and Murray has asked fans to take into account the destabilising effect of losing so many high-standard players in a short period of time. Murray himself was one of those attracted by the lure of the Old Firm, but has since returned.

Others such as Derek Riordan, Scott Brown and Kevin Thomson have departed, and Paatelainen, like John Collins before him, has been left to deal with the consequences. Collins had some success, leading his team to CIS Insurance Cup glory in March 2007 and also to the top of the league in the opening weeks of last season. The going has got tougher since then, however, and Hibs' form since the final weeks of last season has done little to lift the gloom.

"We were well beaten by Barcelona and in the Intertoto Cup," admitted Murray.

"There were another couple of results that were not great as well. It's disappointing to lose your first game but Kilmarnock is always a hard place to go, especially on the first day of the season. It's early days in the league and we have a decent run of games coming up, so hopefully we can pick up a few points. I think the reaction by fans has a been a little bit over the top.

"I can see where they are coming from in some ways, and they are looking for investment in the side. We've lost a lot of good players, so it's hard to bring in that quality again. If after seven, eight, nine games into the season we're still in the same position, I would say it's time to worry, but we've only had one game away from home."

Paatelainen has been dogged by rumours that he is on the verge of resigning from his post after only seven months in charge. Murray, however, claimed the Finn did not know the meaning of quit. He stressed all the players were eager to play for Paatelainen, and were conscious of their own responsibility to lift Hibs out of their current predicament.

"We're all behind the gaffer," said Murray. "We've been getting stick as well as him, but sometimes that brings you closer together anyway. The manager is the type you want to play for. Don't get me wrong, he'll give you a rollicking you if you need it but you know it can be for your own good. We don't always agree 100 per cent, but everyone likes the way he works and goes about his business."

"I got one text (saying Paatelainen had resigned] on Saturday night and one the week before as well," he continued. "But I don't think it's happened – a manager resigning after one game? If you knew the manager it's not something he would entertain anyway. He's very much a 100 per center. As a player, he wasn't the type to give up or shirk a challenge so I don't see why he would have changed over the last four or five years. He just rolls the sleeves up."

Meanwhile, Hibs have been dealt a blow with the news that new signing Steven Thicot could be out of action for around a month with a thigh strain.

The French midfielder, who signed a fortnight ago after being released by Nantes, made his competitive debut at Rugby Park on Saturday but only lasted 35 minutes before pulling up.

Paatelainen said: "Steven could be out for three or four weeks."



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  • Last Updated: 11 August 2008 11:28 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Hibernian FC
 
1

ozdon,

12/08/2008 02:13:12
Is Murray trying to convince himself or us that all is ok??
2

Away down In Gorgie (2),

12/08/2008 07:34:35
Ok - Im a Hearts fan and if I am being honest I think Mixu is way out of his depth. That aside - he should be allowed until THE NEW YEAR to shapere his team. I think the style of football is hurting the Hibees as much as the results.
3

Johnny Jambo,

12/08/2008 08:44:46
I agree with #2 here although I think Mixu has a job to do and Ian Murray did not convince me yesterday when I saw his interview. There is a big problem behind the scenes at Easter Rd and it is obviously spilling over to the playing field and if that isw not fixed soon I don't think Mixu will be resigning, I don't think he will get the choice.
4

Johhny Jambo,

12/08/2008 08:55:59
I dont agree with #2 here although I dont think Mixu has a job to do and Ian Murray did convince me yesterday when I saw his interview. There is not a big problem behind the scenes at Easter Rd and it is not obviously spilling over to the playing field and if that is fixed soon I think Mixu will not be resigning, I think he will get the choice.
5

The Wookie,

Edinburgh 12/08/2008 08:56:17
"The Finn does not know the meaning of the word quit"...

Ok Ian - how about the word "Sacked" or "here is the rremainder of your contract paid up so go"....

This board will do anything to buy time so Mixu will take the blame. It's so the board can't be accused of starving the club of investment.
And I dont mean just on the playing front....do you remember the "buy a season ticket before the builders come in" from Chief Executive Scott Lindsay.....All a bit quiet on that front just now - we've had the "cost of steel has shot up so we can build this week....
what now - we can't build at present because it's Grouse shooting season!!!
6

Ackey,

12/08/2008 09:17:56
Good to see some decent people from the opp side of the city. I to don't think Mixu will quit, don't think it's in his character to give up. I do believe he can only play the hand he has been given, and although a few changes in personnel the main problems are still there, too many rubbish players who will be prepared to sit on their contracts rather than leave, as Hibs could probably be the biggest club they will play for...i.e your donaldson's, kerr's, chisholm's, campbell's to name but a few.....
7

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

12/08/2008 09:23:57
No chance of Mixu being sacked. It causes to many problems for Petrie, having to pay compensation and hire someone else.
Mixu has his faults but key to the the problem is Petrie's unwillingness to shell out decent wages to players. Thats why Collins left. Unless Petire loosens the purse strings, its difficult to see how things can change.
8

Indy Rep Kid...,

12/08/2008 09:50:16
I'll add my name to the list of jambos commenting on here - sorry.

At some point, Petrie has to decide whether he wants to take a chance with wages. Football IS a business but it's not a normal business and some element of risk is the norm and I reckon Petrie has gone too far with the book-balancing to the point where it is actually undermining the bottom line in any case.

In this case, Hibs maybe are more like Arsenal than they imagined!

Just because Hearts speculated to accumulate and almost went bust does not mean the concept should be abandoned, although I would avoid paying guys like Fitzroy Simpson £5k/week though!
9

The Wookie,

Edinburgh 12/08/2008 10:02:39
5 - 6 - 7#

All correct - the board at Hibs are the thing that are holding back the development of the club.

They have put themselves onto a pedastal thinking that they brought through all the young players who have left - they seem to forget it was John Park who ran the Hibs youth academy for years and brought these players through....

They also seem to have forgot that John has also left and went to Celtic - when will they wake up and realise that the conveyor belt is broken....

Time to start raising your voices boys and get them out!!!

Unfortunatly your safety net of league survival called Hamilton looked pretty handy last night.
If Falkirk turn you over this weekend - which I expect - then it's time to act now of it's freefall to the first division for the Hibees because the team at present has no direction on or off the pitch.
10

Palermo,

12/08/2008 10:31:47
To those who maybe think "maybe it is all about lack of investment" and "you can't blame Mixu for the hand he's been dealt" did you see Hamilton and the swashbuckling, attacking, flair football they produced with players who are - in the main - earning much less than Hibs players, and supposedly inferior.

The reason is because they have a system that encourages confident exhilerating football, and a manager who organises and encourages and prepares his team accordingly.

2nd place is up for grabs again this season, but we'll be bottom six, and the main question for me is "under Mixu's system, will we score one single goal before October" even including penalties in the CIS cup???
11

Lenny,

12/08/2008 10:53:34
Thought I would leave a comment, just for fun like seeing as all the Jambo's have already. I seem to remember not long ago the Jambo's moaning about Hibees commenting on Hearts stories. Oh the difference a wee win makes : )

I personally think Hibs are feeling the impact of too many manager changes. Each manager has brought in his own players, most of which are not good enough. We now have a huge squad and rightly players need to move on before more players can come in.

I'm not sure about Mixu but I'm also not sure about punting another manager. Give him a cpl of months and see where we are. If we are looking like we are in trouble then bin him and get Yogi in.
12

The Wookie,

Edinburgh 12/08/2008 11:05:06
11#...

Correct Lenny - I think Yogi was and still is the man for the job....

The problem is - he is a rough diamond and calls a spade a spade - your board want a yes man who asks for nothing and should be happy to have a job

Yogi is a born & bred proud Leither and won't accept that for his beloved Hibs......and neither should the support!!!
13

Lenny,

12/08/2008 11:16:12
Wookie

I think you are underestamating the Hibs support. No one is accepting anything. I know many people who have not renewed their season ticket. I also know others that have received re-funds. If we lose the next cpl of games you will hear all about it at the games and things WILL kick off. It has happened before and will happen again.

HOWEVER, as much as you Jambo's are clearly enjoying it, its not yet time to panick. We have only lost one game. Now is NOT the time to lose another manager. He has to be given time.
14

rosco.1875,

12/08/2008 11:26:21
This is all completely OTT. We could play that match on saturday another 6 times and we'd beat killie everytime, should've had the game buried by HT, were a bit unlucky and some poor finishing stopped that.

Would be all rosy had wee won. Keep the heid and faith a bit boys.
15

Will1875,

12/08/2008 11:33:54
#14 Wake up

The pre season was poor to be kind and from all accounts they were not that good on saturday. A a Hibee I feel Mixu is like Sauzee he's out of his depth and the team have no idea what formation they are playing.

They need to find another up and coming manager like Mowbray, a man with a real footballing brain. All Mixu wants to do is argue with refs, managers and players.
16

Will1875,

12/08/2008 11:36:53
An intersting one on SkySports

Hibernian have signed promising striker Steve Pinau from Serie A side Genoa on a one-year loan deal
17

SouthSideHibs,

12/08/2008 12:10:16
2nd place is up for grabs as others have said...

We'll be fighting relegation with - well I was going to say Hamilton - with someone as long as Mixu's in charge.

He ain't got a clue and it's brutal to watch.
18

Phil o Brian,

12/08/2008 12:24:28
I agree with 10#. There are managers out there producing attractive teams on a shoe string. Hibs are panic buying journey men, who we then can't get rid off. Why can't we move on say 6-8 under performers and use the money to buy 2-3 players on say £4,000 pw. Still not a fortune, but gives a bit more scope. All these under performers also block the kids coming through. Like Gray at PT?
Also, I think the signs were clearly there at the end of last season. I don't think most Hibs fans are suprised at the pre season.
19

SouthSideHibs,

12/08/2008 13:30:50
#18 - 100% correct.
20

Phil o Brian,

12/08/2008 15:49:05
19# Its crazy. You have a business plan that revolves around the new training ground and young players. Some home grown and some imported from the EPL. Murphy for example. You attract them by giving them 1st team football, which allows them maybe to get their career back on track, with a big money sale for Hibs at the end.
How does this work with journeymen in the way?
To be honest, it was the only way forward for Hibs and i am at a loss to understand why they did not follow it through. Taking players on a 1 year loan is not the same thing.
21

Jake MacBagpipe,

Zurich 12/08/2008 18:46:34
Rosco 14...I'll have a half of what you're drinking, and only one of what you're popping..
22

Jamboree,

13/08/2008 10:21:52
Mixu is DEFINITELY the man for the job and those are not just my thoughts but the thoughts of the majority of Hearts fans.

Hold the decanter and glasses - legendary status is a still a little way off!

 

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