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Published Date: 14 April 2009
BUS tycoon Ann Gloag is leading the fight against the "ridiculous" decision to deport an Indian-born academic because his bank account fell £78 short of what immigration rules required.
The furious Stagecoach founder is funding Swarthick Salins's last-minute legal appeal to stay in Scotland with his wife and three young children, who were born here.

She publicly attacked the "perverse and ludicrous" ruling on his case, though the
UK Border Agency insisted its "tough" rules were meant to ensure migrants could support themselves.

Mr Salins, 37, has lived in Scotland for nine years, completing a PhD at St Andrews University with the help of an educational charity set up by Ms Gloag.

But a judge rejected his application to stay, "with some reluctance", because his bank account did not show savings of £800 for three months, as required by UK Border Agency rules.

In September, it dipped to £721.18, meaning that Mr Salins failed to score enough points to win his visa application.

With the academic days away from deportation, Ms Gloag said: "This judgment consigns a hard-working, law-abiding family, who have known no other life, to a dreadful uncertainty.

"I have never heard of anything so ridiculous in my life. And this is all over £80."

Mr Salins, 37, who lives in Perth, studied with backing from the Balcraig Foundation, a charity set up by the multi-millionaire Ms Gloag that has helped scores of students.

He wrote a thesis on healthcare delivery in rural India while working part-time at Capability Scotland. His wife, Ranjana, works at Asda. Their daughter, Ruhaani, six, and son Rabboni, five, were born in Perth, and their second son, Adonai, three, in Dundee.

Mr Salins, from near Hyderabad, said he applied for a two-year, post-study work visa. He filled out the paperwork himself to save money. "I thought I had a strong open-and-shut case; I never thought they would be digging in so deep," he said. He wanted to work with aid organisations, or in academia.

His initial application failed because of problems with supporting documents on his qualifications and English skills. But the immigration judge finally dismissed the appeal because Mr Salins did not have savings of £800 for three months.

The family received the news in a letter on Friday. Neighbours, fellow academics and local church people have rallied round to show "they support and love us", said Mr Salins.

He instructed a solicitor, Angela McCracken, on Friday. She said: "It couldn't have happened at a worse time. Ann Gloag has been the educational sponsor, so she will be funding the appeal."

An initial appeal will aim to have the decision overturned as a "straightforward absurdity", she said.

The Border Agency said the "tough" system "ensures only people we need can come here".

The row comes amid increasing concern over immigration – but focusing on the authorities' apparent inability to stop foreign criminals coming and going as they please.





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1

Alasdair mac Alasdair Mór Mac an Righ,,

14/04/2009 00:23:13
The man works and studies and his wife works. He has managed to study for a PhD. Why are we sending him away.

He should just say he wants to kill soldiers, overthrow society, oppress women and that if he returns home he will be harmed for previous crimes.

Ah!! The problem is that because he is a decent family man rather than a previous criminal living here illegally but on benefits now doing more crimes and plotting to kill our citizens, this clever border control system does not allow him to stay.

UK Laws are mental.

Its easy.
2

Dark Lochnagar,

http://darklochnagar.blogspot.com 14/04/2009 00:53:20
If he was some tw@t with a hook and an eye patch, we would be paying him a fortune and letting him spout hate.
3

Miss A.,

USA 14/04/2009 02:17:35

His children were born in your country, how can you deport your own citizens?

These laws need to be reevalutated. There are the rare times when exceptions need to be made. This looks to be one of those times.
4

Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 14/04/2009 04:53:51
The Border Agency said the "tough" system "ensures only people we need can come here".

So how come this guy, who works and has gained a PhD while studying in Britain, is being threatened with deportation yet Binyam Mohamed who has no immigration status in the UK and no valid travel documents, has been welcomed with open arms from Guantanamo Bay ??

Beggars belief really !!!
5

yockel,

14/04/2009 06:43:06
What this story illustrates is the absolute lunacy of a ridged, rules based approach to life. Whether this family should go or stay, the fact that the decision rested on £78.82 is mental.
Unfortunatley rules and rules about rules is all Labour is capable of (and lying about them of course.)
6

RDavis,

Vienna, Austria 14/04/2009 06:49:13
How many individuals have savings of £8,000?
7

Eckyboo,

14/04/2009 06:52:32
This is pathetic the way this family are being treated but criminals like the guy who killed Moira Jones are welcomed with open arms despite having previous criminal convictions in their own country. However is Ann Gloag is so incensed why dosn't she put her money where her mouth is and give the family a grand then the problem will go away, let's face it she can well afford it.
8

donnelly,

Dundee 14/04/2009 07:11:42
His initial application failed because of problems with supporting documents on his qualifications and ....English skills. ???? ..ha ha ha ..

..get the UK Border agency to do a random survey of the kids in Dundee on their technical understanding of proper English Grammer and Vocabulary ...think thwy would be in for a shock!!! ...unless it was "text speak"
9

Brodric,

14/04/2009 08:08:17
This would be laughable if people's lives weren't at risk of being changed dramatically.

How is £800 in savings going to prove anything. The idea is that people who are given right to remain in the UK, must not have recourse to public funds. But family disasters such as ill-health or job loss are not going to be "saved" by savings of £800, which wouldn't see most families through a month.

The fact is that the children were born here. That should count for something. But I do know of a Swiss national who was deported from the UK a few years ago, even though her child was born here, couldn't speak any other language than English - and she was working.

Yet, we have the likes of some of these useless Imams who were allowed to stay despite stirring up racial tension.

What is wrong with this country.
10

Duncan in Edinburgh,

14/04/2009 08:27:30
The immigration judge would have been within his/her rights to overlook a disparity of savings. So the question is why he/she didn't. It may be that we are only getting half the story here.

I hope they win the appeal.
11

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14/04/2009 08:33:22
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12

Armageddon,

Tobermory 14/04/2009 08:39:04
This is a joke

A hard working man of value and his family get deported on a technicality.....because its the rules....what a disgrace.

We let so many thugs, murderers, terrorists, hatemongers in to our country and when they invariably hurt us, no politicialn or civil servant is ever brought to book for letting them in . Things must change. Somewhere in the British Government or civil service there must me somebody with a degree of honesty and accountability.

I hope they win the appeall, and we find our which little box ticker sent a decent family away.
13

carrottop,

Dumfries 14/04/2009 08:41:39

Why should anyone who wants to have the right to stay in this country, he knew before he came here that it was to study.
14

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 14/04/2009 08:44:43
#4 Miss A

The children may have been born here, but of non UK citizens, which does not make them UK citizens. Like every report of this kind, it always becomes a sob story. The rules are there for a purpose. When do the authorities start to enforce them? When the family are £100 short of the requires savings? £200? £500? The family will continue to be as nice and photogenic whatever the shortfall. They can go home to India, save up and Gloag could sponsor their return, like the rules also say.
15

Brodric,

14/04/2009 08:45:12
No 13 - what a pretty picture you paint! What an imagination? Are you a sci-fi writer?

You say that "either we want our country transformed into an overcrowded third-world multi-ethnic slum like India or we want it to stay the way it is". What "way it is"? Returning to the country a couple of years ago I found a lot of undesirable things that hadn't existed before, some related to the sheer amount of foreigners living in Leith which was a culture shock that I am beginning to get used to; the other was the indigenous population who seemed to dress in the most ugly way possible, with great fat white cold-red-mottled love handles sticking out of hipster (or even lower) cut jeans. Same thrust in your face when you are sitting on the bus. Couple this with a kind of selfishness that I hadn't met in this country before and crowds of drunken, foul-mouthed young people spouting about their sexual conquests (even girls). Yuck!

But then I am only remembering the negative points - and there are loads of positive ones.

Loosen up Dougie, you'll have an attack of high blood pressure.
16

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 14/04/2009 09:16:01
#15 carrottop

I agree. He came here on a study visa NINE years ago. Now he wants to extend on a work visa. Obviously the UK isn't such a bad old place because it has allowed him to bring his wife to come and stay with him while he is studying. Oh, and they can't be that strapped for cash because they can afford to have three kids while they're here. Who's paying for them? I'd put money on the NHS services they've received whilst here as guests has been paid for by you and me, not by the Salins' as the rules also state. And his invaluable contribution as an academic that no UK citizen could provide and which will add to the economic well being of the nation? A PhD in childcare in rural India. Get a grip, folks. Yet another tale of a no doubt nice family chancing their arm. If you wany EVERY nice Indian family to come here, carry on being suckered by their sob story.
17

Boy Wonder,

14/04/2009 09:37:32
Bliddy heck!! There's time MY family finances dip below £800 nicker a month!!!

I've never heard the like. This is absolutley disgusting. Immigration rules need to be overhauled to be SENSIBLE!!! Especially in a climate when prices are going up everywhere! Plus his wife and kids are Brits!

Name names. Who is this numpty who judged Mr Salins? Does he/she want to come a judge ME and MY family next??

Stop this stupid deportation now!!!
18

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 14/04/2009 09:44:38
#19 Boy Wonder

Can you READ? None of them, including the kids, are Brits. That's the whole point. I hope you're as vociferous when your granny doesn't get the care she needs on the NHS because some 'judge' has had to decide to ratio her care (as happens) because not everyone can get the care they need and have paid for. As long as you're happy for non UK citizens to take as much out of the NHS as THEY need, that's fine.
19

Tartan Viking,

14/04/2009 09:54:16
#5.Angoos,Baku, Azerbaijan

I agree with you. Rules are rules concerning this family but it is an absolute disgrace to depoert them whilst allowing Binyam Mohamed and a lot of other preachers of hate to stay. For example, who ensures Binyam Mohamed (or any of these preachers of hate)has £800 in his bank account for three consequitive months, as required by UK Border Agency rules?

Why are rules so often applied to some people in this country and not others? Why do the British Governement pick the soft targets and leave the obvious ones alone? Is it fear?? We should be told.
20

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 14/04/2009 10:04:46
#21 Tartan Viking

Don't worry. Here's what will happen. Just like Binyam Mohamed's and Abu Hamza's, this family's immigration lawyers, ably assisted by folk like your good self, Ann Gloag and the press, will string out the case for many years. After at least two Immigration Tribunal appeals, an appeal to the High Court, an application for judicial review, maybe an appeal to the House of Lords and to the European Court (all paid for by me at least, you'll no doubt still be living tax free in Baku), it will be decided that the process itself will have been too long and they won't be sent home. So we be as well let them stay now. Happy now?
21

Allan(handofgod137),

14/04/2009 10:26:23
Just find it really strange how the national media are picking up this story, but have so far completely ignored this one:-
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/output/2009/02/13/newsstory12634897t0.asp

Is it because the Zimbabwian family are white, and all but two hold British passports?
22

Mcsnagpile,

14/04/2009 10:39:10
We should extend the law to everybody with less than £75 in the bank then we can then solve the housing problem and decant some housing estates to the Sahara.
23

Tartan Viking,

14/04/2009 11:03:04
#22. Draco.

I never gave any support for this family in my post above did I? So get off your high horse mate.

What I said in essence was "Why are rules so often applied to some people in this country and not others? Why do the British Governement pick the soft targets and leave the obvious ones alone? Is it fear?? We should be told."

What I am saying is that the government should bloody well apply the rules across the board and examine whether undesirables like Binyam Mohamed and Abu Hamza are complying with UK Border Agency rules as well, and remove them if they are not.
And your comment ".. all paid for by me at least, you'll no doubt still be living tax free in Baku)"

??

Are you a nob?
24

Observer,,

Glasgow 14/04/2009 11:18:16
I would rather we kept this family and deported some people who were born here quite frankly.
25

Dark Lochnagar,

http://darklochnagar.blogspot.com 14/04/2009 11:49:00
~26 Observer.

Any chance of getting rid of Roofarse?
26

Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 14/04/2009 12:37:00
#25 Tartan Viking

I think Draco's post at #22 referring to "living tax free in Baku" was aimed at me.

What he doesn't realise is that I actually pay more tax in Azerbaijan than I would in the UK (around 35-36% on EVERYTHING I earn).

You are however correct in your assumption that he is a nob !
27

Anthony,

Glasgow 14/04/2009 13:30:17
In this particular case, it does look a little harsh. But the arguments being used, cannot be allowed to be seen to prevail. Children are being used as a free-pass to stay in this country by many migrants and students and bogus asylum seekers, and it's wrong. So much so, that not long ago we had the case of the African lady nicking a child back home, and using the poor mite as grounds for staying in this country and getting housing.

Nor the fact that someone in the family gets a job really relevant.

But as for the American contributer to this discussion who tells us to hang our heads in shame - perhaps you could use your own to look around a bit closer to home? Unlike America the UK doesn't have so-called 'minute men', citizens who are allowed to take their rifles and have pot-shots at people trying to sneak though the Mexican/American border!
28

Man On Corstorphine Omnibus,

Edinburgh 14/04/2009 14:14:27
This guy says he applied for a "post-study two year work visa"; earlier we are told that he has been in Scotland nine years. So did it take him nine years to complete his Phd? Looks like it - why would he only now be applying for a "post-study" work visa?
And what does he mean by wanting to work for an "aid agency"? Would that be one of those left-liberal taxpayer-funded organisations that tries to stop every illegal immigrant, whatever the circumstances, from being removed?
Yeah, nice family and all that but do we allow EVERYONE with a sob story to remain in this country when they have no legal right to be here? What will be the optimum population level of this small island before society starts to break down? 80 million? 100 million?
29

G Lauder,

14/04/2009 16:48:59
As far as I can see, their presence here adds little of value to the country.

I hope that they are speedily deported, this would free two jobs and some housing, which hopefully would go to British people in need of these.
30

Miss A.,

So.Cal., just north of the border 14/04/2009 20:21:40
#29 Anthony

Good one. I never said you should hang your heads in shame. I did not realize it is not enough to just be born in your country and that the kids do not have citizenship. That being the case, these people do not have a leg to stand on.

Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways and giving me a good laugh at the same time.
31

Gaidhealtachd,

14/04/2009 20:30:14
He's got £720 more than I do in savings!! We should be hanging on to people like him, not chucking him out on a ridiculous bureaucratic whim.
32

Phoebe N,

15/04/2009 08:23:11
I am yawning at this story...there are thousands more rejected over this same issue...some missed the "requirement" by TEN POUNDS! How many British people can say they can leave £800 in a bank for three months untouched? But of course students who have paid over £30,000 in fees at a considerable personal sacrifice are made of money! This rule is unreal. Maybe when you are done with this "special" family you can look at the the others affected? May I remind you that people like these cannot claim your bloody benefits - if you can tell me the benefit of sending people that do nothing but actually pump money into the UK economy - WITHOUT CLAMING BENEFITS - then please do let me know. Then the argument can begin.
33

RuthsDad,

Perth 15/04/2009 17:25:42
I know the the whole family. Would like to correct some points made above.

'And his invaluable contribution as an academic that no UK citizen could provide and which will add to the economic well being of the nation? A PhD in childcare in rural India. Get a grip, folks. Yet another tale of a no doubt nice family chancing their arm.'
That is nonsense - would be better to know what you are talking about if you want to slate someone.

'And what does he mean by wanting to work for an "aid agency"? Would that be one of those left-liberal taxpayer-funded organisations that tries to stop every illegal immigrant, whatever the circumstances, from being removed?'
errr....NO actually. Your assumption here is totally wrong.

'their presence here adds little of value to the country.'
Again - completely wrong. And why make this assertion if you do not know what you are taking about?


34

LAM,

Edinburgh 26/04/2009 10:59:22
Personally I have found our UK Border Agency to be totally incompetant. And the passport office isnt any better. Slightly off topic but again just showing the huge level of incompetance in this area. I am UK citizen born here immigrated with parents as child. Grew up in Canada, married had children divorce etc. Decided I wanted to come back. That was fine as I had my Uk passport. Now my children early 20's want to join me. Youngest is citizen by decent as birthdate as after 01Jan.1983. Oldest born 4 months early than date he is not. He apparently can possibly come but not straight forward. I made called to both above mentioned offices to find out exactly what the procedure is for son coming over and getting his UK passport. Got told numerous things...but most ovbious was that no one actually knew the answer and was trying to pass me onto another office or website which doesn't tell you either. Eventually got told to contact passport office in Canada where son is. Sorry it has closed down you must now call Washington DC and pay their 3rd party outside agency approx. £1.50 per min to find out answer. Unbelievable!! Still do not have answers as doubt this agency will do anything other than take my money. Have even wrote to MP didn't get response. I'm shocked by this but reading this man story it actually just falls in line with the rest of this farce.

 

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