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Published Date: 24 June 2009
IRANIAN state TV showed people "confessing" yesterday, in a bid to stop protests over the disputed presidential elections.
"I think we were provoked by networks like the BBC and the VOA (Voice of America) to take such immoral actions," one young man said. His face was shown but his name not given.

A woman whose face was pixilated said she had carried a "war grenade" in her handbag.

"I was influenced by VOA Persian and the BBC because they were saying that security forces were behind most of the clashes.

"I saw that it was us protesting ... who were making riots. We set on fire public property, we threw stones ... we attacked people's cars and we broke windows of people's houses," she said.

The regime's efforts in discrediting those who oppose it was backed by a heavier threat from one of the country's senior judicial figures.

The official IRNA news agency quoted senior judiciary official Ebrahim Raisi as saying: "Those arrested in recent events will be dealt with in a way that will teach them a lesson."

He said a special court was studying the cases. "The rioters should be dealt with in an exemplary way and the judiciary will do that," Mr Raisi said.

Opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi claims he was the true winner of the 12 June election, but the electoral commission declared President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won by a landslide.

Mr Mousavi has been out of sight in recent days and there were no reports of violent clashes yesterday, possibly a measure of the effectiveness of the crackdown.

However, protesters came up with new techniques, such as turning on the lights in their cars at certain hours of the day and honking their horns or holding up posters.

"People are calmly protesting, more symbolically than with their voices," a Tehran resident said.

In recent days, members of the elite Revolutionary Guard, the Basij militia and other security forces in riot gear have been heavily deployed across Tehran, preventing any gatherings and ordering people to keep moving. A protest of some 200 people on Monday was quickly broken up with tear gas and shots in the air, while helicopters hovered overhead.

A short message posted on Mousavi's website asserted that "all the reports of violations in the elections will be published soon".

Another opposition figure, reformist presidential candidate Mahdi Karroubi, called for a day of mourning for the people killed in protests since the election who number at least 17.

Across the world, governments and diplomats were increasingly lining up on opposite sides in the Iranian showdown, the strongest challenge to the rule of Islamic clerics in 30 years.

In a boost for the embattled regime, Russia said yesterday that it respects the declared election result. But France summoned Iran's ambassador to express concern about what it called "brutal repression" of protesters in Tehran.

The US and many European countries have refrained from challenging the election outcome directly, but have issued increasingly stern warnings against continuing violence meted out to demonstrators.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has demanded an immediate end to "arrests, threats and use of force."

In Washington, President Barack Obama said the US and the rest of the world was "appalled and outraged" by Iran's violent efforts to crush dissent.

"I have made it clear that the United States respects the sovereignty of the Islamic Republic of Iran, and is not interfering in Iran's affairs," Mr Obama said.

"But we must also bear witness to the courage and dignity of the Iranian people."

IRNA reported the Iranian Foreign Ministry rejected Mr Ban's remarks and accused the UN chief of meddling.


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Feeling
What do the people of Iran feel now?
What does the rest of the world feel now?
What do we want from this;
politician, supporter, protestor, observer, on-looker, us?

Nannie you sound clever
Can we go on a bat watch together?
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24/06/2009 01:18:59
Iranian Foreign Ministry rejected Mr Ban's remarks and accused the UN chief of meddling."

"Meddling"- The UN meddle?
hahaha. Offer to write them a check, set up a commission and the meddling will be a real money maker
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 24/06/2009 04:45:25
The Iranian Regime is on a real losing streak.

First Hezbollah in Lebanon looses the election.

Next in attempt to cling to power Ahmadinejad commits widespread electoral fraud and destroys any legitimacy he ever had.

Watch for Hamas to lose the upcoming elections in the Gaza.

The little dictator who fancies himself as the reincarnation of Imam Muhammad Al-Mahdi is certainly having a losing year.
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Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 24/06/2009 05:08:50
It is such a tired old Government tactic to blame "outside meddling" for their own failings.

We see it all the time in Africa - "Oh it was caused by colonialism", "oh it was caused by apartheid" and most recently from Zimbabwe " our troubles are a direct result on a ban preventing Grace and myself from shopping in Harrods"!!!

But now, increasingly, other third world countries like Iran and China are using it as well.

Frankly, it is pathetic!

If those leaders consider themselves fit to lead the country then they should stand on their own record of creating a society that meets the aspirations of all their people.
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Mashimaro,

China 24/06/2009 05:19:21
why don't you all go get your OWN revolution, you cowards. Why don't YOU take to the streets and risk getting YOUR skulls kicked in. You want to join the bloody march of freedom, start walking. Stop living vicariously through other people's struggles. Fight your own battles.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 24/06/2009 05:57:05
# 19 Mashi

"why don't you all go get your OWN revolution"

We would Mashi but we get to change our leaders through Democratic Elections. You only need revolutions when your leadership can not be held accountable at the ballot box. It seems that is lesson you Chinese just don't get, if you want stability the only way is representative democracy.

#16 Skidders

"And yet he remains in power after winning the election by a landslide eh, go figure."

Yes he gets to puff his chest on the world stage as his country beset by strikes and failed economic policies goes into terminal decline.

# 17 Big Jock McCock

"The protesters are discrediting themselves by their offensive behavior."

Yes those Iranians throwing Tomatoes at the western embassies are a real disgrace. Have a few Happy Meals, it will make you feel better.
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Mashimaro,

China 24/06/2009 06:37:55
#20 Talk about strikes and failed ecnonomic policies... look to the UK, dude. Look to the US where "freedom" is just a joke now, where the socio-economic elite's debt has been "socialised" for the people to pay off, where you can't question the holocaust, where the government has the right to pry into your private life any time it wants.
when bush was "elected" the people of the US should have taken to the streets. did they? heck no. they paid their taxes and went back to work. You have an unelected leader in the UK right now.
The hypocrisy of this is just mindblowing. Iran used to have a democracy until the west didn't like it anymore and changed it for the mad mullahs.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 24/06/2009 07:00:36
Big Jock McCock

"Obviously you don't want to know the truth but I regard the burning of buses, cars, trucks and buildings as terrorism. There terrorists in Tehran should be swiftly dealt with in any way possible."

If people are allowed the opportunity to peacefully protest they will protest peacefully.

If however those in authority react with violence and attempt to end dissent by terrorizing the people then they will, justifiably, react to the trampling of their rights.

When you are dealing with Dictators who have resorted to violence to maintain there grip on power, burning vehicles and buildings are just the start of what is justified.
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Media at One,

24/06/2009 07:31:33
Iran is slowly coming right and they must be permitted to make their own mistakes and carve out their own future. Take China for example. A proud and ingenius nation of brilliant engineers and mathematicians who took the path of communism with devastating results. China as the world knows is a humanitarian crisis of poverty, stowe aways and fleeing masses. But at the same time, China is also a nation under reconstruction and it will take time until she fulfills her dream of being entirely western. But she is trying, she is trying hard and like Iran it will take time.
I say we let these nations mature - both of them love the western culture if they didnt they would not be moving to democracy, they would be becomming more fierce communists.
Give them time - they will come right!
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24/06/2009 07:33:09
Agent dubble oh seven

Speaking about war - do you think you will win a world war against the West? Are you that silly?
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Mashimaro,

China 24/06/2009 08:08:15
#25 Excuse me whiteman.... Communist China has lifted more people out of poverty faster than any other country in the world.
"Let these nations mature"??? You racist pig. My nation was mature while yours was still rutting in the mud. These Iranians had tamed the stars while you were running around smearing blue dye all over yourself. You spear throwers might have had a couple of good centuries, come and talk to us when you have a good few milennia.
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24/06/2009 08:15:02
Good morning all, I see we have the usual gang in the house. Ok lets have a look here, I see Posty is in his usual form, Mashi your shouting, never known that before, bad hangover?

Well guys I've read your comments and I have to ask, do you lads still believe in the tooth fairy? Let me ask you, how hard would it be for a government, any government to grab some of it's citizens, scare them half to death, tell them what they are going to say, put them in front of camera's and have them repeat it.

C'mon fella's even you two can't be that naive. Guys unlike yourselves, not everyone is happy to live in a restrictive society. The restrictions these fella's impose in Iran make your country look positively decadent.
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Agent 007, nah sorry Posty it just doesn't work, it isn't you.
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Aw c'mon guys, stop deleting Posty, were's the lurv?
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#27 Mushy

You are absolutely correct in both China's and Iran's ancient history. Unfortunately, while the Persians were taming stars (?) and the Chinese were doing clever tricks like eating their soup with a stick, they forgot about putting in place a system of Government that would prevent their rulers being hi-jacked by a bunch of religious or communist fanatics.

Sometimes you have just got to focus on the basics and let the stars get on by themselves!
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24/06/2009 08:36:54
#27 Mashimaro, " These Iranians had tamed the stars while you were running around smearing blue dye all over yourself".

erm...The world's first star catalogue was compiled by Shi Shen and Gan De, both Chinese astronomers in the 4th century BC of the Warring States Period.

In approximately the 3rd century BC, Timocharis of Alexandria and Aristillus created the first star catalogue in the Western world.

Then....In the 2nd century, Ptolemy published a star catalogue as part of his Almagest, which listed 1,022 stars visible from Alexandria. It was the standard star catalogue in the Western and Arab worlds for over a thousand years. Ptolemy's catalogue was based almost entirely on an earlier one by Hipparchus from the 2nd century BC.

So you see Mashi, none of those folks were Persian, The greatest astromoners of that time were Chinese, Greek, or Egyptians. Historic astromony is a bit of a wee hobby of mine. I can't think of any Persians that helped map the stars.





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24/06/2009 08:41:40
Oh Mashi, calling someone "whiteman" then a "racist pig" bit of a double standard there mate.

P.S. How do you know he/she is white?
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Mashimaro,

China 24/06/2009 08:59:39
Jim, shouting? Me? I would never be so unharmonious.
It's not about personal freedoms, this election. It was indeed fair and honest. We seem to forget that Iran holds elections all the time. Quite peacable and acceptable elections. Infact it holds more presidential elections than America! For there to be election fraud there would have to be hundreds of honest people willing to lie, and that is just not possible.
All of that aside, my objection is to the stirring and interference by the west. the hypocritical condemnation when the west was quite happy to sweep aside the "will of the people" when it suited them. Sadly Jim, there is no way Amahdinejad did not win these elections... what you are seeing now is an attempted coup.

#32 good come back. Yours is not the best system, however. It lacks the ability to make any sort of visionary decisions. It is in decay and you can't even protect your own culture. Might I remind you that your country and America is bankrupt. Say it with me... ban... krupt. Your rich people who didn't want to pay the huge 50pc taxes have just torn your government apart and made your unelected Prime Minister a lame duck. This means, my dear Tatties that nothing can be moved or decided, your country is well and truely broken.
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#34 cos I've never heard a black man come up with some of the rubbish that spews from his mouth.
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China 24/06/2009 09:20:00
and yes, Jim, the Wascally Wabbit is peeved.
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24/06/2009 09:24:56
#35 Mashimaro. "It is in decay and you can't even protect your own culture. Might I remind you that your country and America is bankrupt. Say it with me... ban... krupt.

Lol. ok fair enough Mashi, but lets not forget a couple of things here, your economy is very very fragile, I've already explained why that is. Also has you point out on another story, "China is heavily invested in the US", protecting it's interests you said.

You may not see it Mashi but think about it for a while, that gives the yanks a wee bit of power to play with there, they could kill those investments dead and ruin your economy.

Mashi, the global economies are all swings and roundabouts, today China is top dog, tomorrow someone else. Tis the way of things, the Chinese bubble will burst, it is the one thing economists and scientists around the world are sure of. It's just a matter of time.

"#34 cos I've never heard a black man come up with some of the rubbish that spews from his mouth".

So on that basis you assume he/she is white. Mashi, your being racist. Oh and you were shouting in your comment at #19.

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24/06/2009 09:26:24
#37 Mashimaro, it's unlike you to lose your cool, chill out man.
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24/06/2009 09:29:38
Anyway back to the story, Has Iran shown any evidence of interference by any western government. Not accusations, hard evidence. I think the words "looking for a scapegoat" comes to mind and we're it.
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24/06/2009 09:30:39
Time for work, catch you all later, and you kids play nice.
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#38 Jim, I wasn't shouting. I cannot use Italics to empahsise my words, so I had to use caps.
I know economies are in precarious positions, but that does not give the right to taties to say things as if she has got money in the bank. Cos she doesn't. Dude, do you know that if the dollar was abandonded as standard currency the US would sink into a black hole? Of course China doesn't want that to happen cos much of our money is tied up there. But we are keeping our economy afloat - so far.
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Mashimaro,

China 24/06/2009 09:55:44
#39 Do not presume to tell me who I hate. I have no problem with white people. I love Norwegians and Danes and Russians and Netherlanders and Belgians even. I love the Irish, have a few Scot friends, even an Italian or two. I have problems with people like you who like to believe that your skin colour and place of birth are due to some superior characterists of your own personality rather than the sheer accident of nature that it truly is.
As for debating, I'll take you on anytime, anywhere, anything, in your language.
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China 24/06/2009 10:12:51
#39 "It also upsets Mashi that the westerners arriving in China arrive in planes to take advantage of the billion western wannabes. Whereas many Chinese people arriving in the West are falling out of wooden crates looking for a new life in far off places far away from the horrors in the big red giant!!"

Your arguments follow along similar lines posted on rightwing white nazi websites of various nations, South Africa's included - i.e. it's quite alright for us to treat blacks the way we do because if South Africa was really this bad, poverty stricken black people wouldn't be running through the Kruger dodging lions to get here. A few facts you seem willing to ignore...
1 Chinese people have always explored and move outwards from China.
2 China has very good reasons for its poverty, none of which are communism. Before communism came along millions more people in China were poor and desperate. It's a matter of degrees. But someone like you only sees in black and white, dont you.
3 Your "great achievement" was putting a tin can on the moon? Give me a break. the Communists beat you into space anyway and now the yankees have to beg them for rides to the ISS.
4 Yes, the europeans had a good run of colonising and overrunning and defeating. Yes they have some nice places and came up with good inventions. You did it for what... 400 years tops? That my friend is a blink of an eye.
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# 22 Mashi

"Iran used to have a democracy until the west didn't like it anymore and changed it for the mad mullahs."

No Iran had a socialist government that the CIA helped overthrow in a coup that brought in the Shah who it turn was overthrown by the mad mullahs.

Get your history straight.

Please do tell me why previous meddling by the CIA means that the Iranians should be permanently disallowed the right to choose their governments democratically?

I wasn't born when that happened, I doubt you where and all those protesters certainly where not.

Its like saying the Battle of Culloden is justification if I want to start attacking English people.

Its old news and hardly relevant.

Speaking of which did you know that today is the 695th Anniversary of the Battle of Bannockburn when a small Scottish Army of 6,000 managed to route a much larger English Army of 20,000?.

If you want to be free, it has a price that is usually paid with blood.


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24/06/2009 11:23:17
# 27 Mashi

"Excuse me whiteman.... Communist China has lifted more people out of poverty faster than any other country in the world."

Rubbish, Communism has never lifted anyone out of poverty. It was only when you adopted Dengism and embraced capitalism that you showed any progress.

If you stuck with the failed communist economic policies you would all be still wearing Mao suits and scrapping by on a diet of rice and not much else.
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#35 Mashi

" Infact it holds more presidential elections than America!"

I don't know how that is possible since they both are on 4 year electoral cycles

"For there to be election fraud there would have to be hundreds of honest people willing to lie, and that is just not possible."

No for their to be election fraud all you need is a few hundred DISHONEST people to lie.

Besides the Iranians have already admitted that in 50 cities there where more votes cast than eligible voters.

When you get a 120% electoral turnout you know its fraudulent.
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alan mirs,

Tehran 24/06/2009 11:44:35
If one is not disturb to see the video of Neda bleeding to death, one should be a terrorist, and that is the question, did in fact
A terror group carried out the act? According to the New York Times,
It was hot in the car, so the young woman and her singing instructor got out for a breath of fresh air on a quiet side street not far from the anti-government protests they had ventured out to attend. A gunshot rang out, and the woman, Neda Agha-Soltan, fell to the ground. “It burnt me,” she said before she died
It looks odd, she was away from the crowd and yet was hit with a bullet and there was a camera to shot the event!
I remember the LA riot covering live that a driver was pulled out of his truck and hit with brick on his head, I feel the media play a essential role in such events, far from having people lashed in close doors when the table get lashed, the villain groan, and the lasher gets reach, and all in the name of human dignity, putting his name and face in the media, more effective
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Media at One,

24/06/2009 11:45:12
Communism doesnt work, it never has. Those who rule communist nations are the first to surround themselves with the trappings of capitalism at the expense of the populace.
The West has never looked to adopt the Chinese method of capitalism, but China has now adopted the western ideal of Capitalism, and look what is happening! People are loving it! I feel like crying each time I see the Chinese nation and their new "proud westerners in training" smile....
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24/06/2009 11:46:43
* The West has never looked to adopt the Chinese method of communism, but China has now adopted the western ideal of Capitalism
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Arminius,

Bei Uelzen 24/06/2009 12:50:25
#48 KampungHighlander - ""Excuse me whiteman.... Communist China has lifted more people out of poverty faster than any other country in the world." - This is the favourite T-shirt slogan lie that the little yellow peril likes to trot out in defence of his odious regime.
He is not so keen in pointing out the failures of the Communist regime (e.g. the ideology bit) and the fac that the CCP has caused the death of more of its citizens than any other country in the world.
Like his Communist masters, Mushi would prefer a regime in Tehran that it can deal with to secure its natural resources regardless. The Chinese fear the Iranians falling back into the pro-Western orbit and the loss of their oil.
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Phil the Flooter,

24/06/2009 13:21:54
That Mashitattie guy sounds like he's got a rocket up his $rse.
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Rob Royston,

Bishopbriggs 24/06/2009 13:59:54
#50

Your view of this poor girls murder is the same as mine. It has all the hallmarks of a Western Terrorist propaganda slaying. We in the West do more terrorist acts than all the rest of the world combined, but we excell at using the media to portray them as the acts of our chosen patsies.

The Iranian people need to sort out their own affairs and keep the West and the East, outside. None of them are their true friends, they are only after their oil.
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24/06/2009 14:44:50
#41 Jim A

I think the inference is that it's the western media that's spreading 'gossip'! I don't take sides here and am merely trying to make sense of this as a neutral.

If you look at the news reports from the BBC, Sky etc, they are very anti President Whatsisname. It is those reports which talk of widespread vote rigging. These same reports are also seen in Iran via the web.

Who's to say that President Whatsisname didn't win a landslide? If Mousavi has evidence let him present it. Of course he wants his supporters to revolt! He might win by default.

The UK and US governments don't seem to be taking their usual hard line for democracy. Anyway, who's to believe a government who can apparently lose evidence of vote rigging in a UK by-election in Glenrothes?
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no56 exactly
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these idiot mullahs are so stupid that they think by showing a few poor people who have been tortured to admit their presence in the protests,the whole world would go ohhhhhhh !!!! what a bunch of decent people are these mullahs,how honest they are!!!! their level of stupidity sinks to new lows.
the islamic republic has been torturing and killing people over the past 30 years of its sickening existence.
good luck with the young generation of iran who will no doubt achieve their freedom very soon. they deserve better than this tyranny called islamic republic.
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Bryan Luxman,

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The peaceful protesters are starting to lose control and turn violent. The best way to make a statement is to keep a level head.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 24/06/2009 18:48:26
Fresh clashes reported in Tehran.

You cannot help but admire people who have the courage to continue to protest even in the face of such utter brutality.

This regime has not only lost what little legitimacy it ever had but it is slowly but surely destroying any attraction that Theocratic Islamic rule may have had in the Muslim world.

Which is a good thing.
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Lynne,

24/06/2009 22:39:16
Jack Murtha..THAT WAS THE BEST.!!!!!
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Ifan Har,

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Before denigrating Iran observe the level of censorship in this column! We are supposed to be in a free country but the Scotman's censorial red ink indicate that it is prescribed to us what we are allowed to read!

Also do not forget that the 1800's Western governments have been involving themselves in Iranian affairs, e.g. circa 1860 a British official forced Iran to cede land to India by shifting the border. Then there was this issue of the CIA and MOSSAD engineering a coup in Iran after the democratic election of 1953 and installing the Shah a compliant American puppet!

Iran has reason to view the Western world with a measure of suspicion, it is known that America has had intelligence agents in Iran for some time1
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Mashimaro,

China 26/06/2009 09:02:56
talking to yourself again Jimmy Dee, when the party has moved on. how sad.

 

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