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Published Date: 23 June 2009
RIOT police attacked hundreds of demonstrators with tear gas and fired live bullets in the air to disperse a rally in central Tehran yesterday, carrying out a threat by the Revolutionary Guard to crush any further opposition protests over the disputed presidential election.
Britain, accused by Iran of fomenting post-election unrest, said it was evacuating the families of diplomats and other officials based in Iran – the first country to do so as Iran's worst internal conflict since the 1979 Islamic Revolution escalated.

In a statement, the Foreign Office said: "The ongoing violence has had a significant impact on the families of our staff, who have been unable to carry on their lives as normal. As a result, we are withdrawing dependants of embassy staff until the situation improves."

Witnesses said helicopters hovered overhead as up to 1,000 protesters gathered at Haft-e-Tir Square yesterday. But hundreds of anti-riot police quickly put an end to the demonstration and prevented any gathering, even small groups, at the scene.

At the underground station at Haft-e-Tir, witnesses said police did not allow anyone to stand still, asking them to keep on walking and separating people who were walking together.

Iran says at least 17 protesters have been killed so far in a week of unrest after the electoral council declared hard-line president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad winner of the 12 June election. His main challenger, Mir Hossein Mousavi, says the election was a fraud and insists he is the true winner. His followers have been staging near-daily rallies, at least one of them drawing hundreds of thousands of people.

The country's highest electoral authority, the Guardian Council, acknowledged yesterday that there were voting irregularities in 50 electoral districts, the most serious official admission so far of problems in the election. But the council insisted the problems did not affect the outcome of the vote.

Earlier yesterday, the elite Revolutionary Guard issued its sternest warning so far in the post-election crisis. It warned protesters to "be prepared for a resolution and revolutionary confrontation with the guards, Basij and other security forces and disciplinary forces" if they continue their rallies.

The Basij, a plainclothes militia under the command of the Revolutionary Guard, has been used to quell street protests that erupted after the election result was announced.

The statement ordered demonstrators to "end the sabotage and rioting activities" and said their resistance is a "conspiracy" against Iran.

But in a defiant statement, Mr Mousavi said: "The country belongs to you. Protesting lies and fraud is your right."

Mr Mousavi's website called for supporters to turn on their car lights in the late afternoon as a sign of protest.

His latest statements also warned of danger ahead, but promised that he would stand by the protesters "at all times".

However, he said he would "never allow anybody's life to be endangered because of my actions" and called for pursuing fraud claims through an independent board.

The former prime minister, a loyalist of the Islamic government, also called the Basij and military "our brothers" and "protectors of our revolution and regime."

He may be trying to constrain his followers' demands before they pose a mortal threat to Iran's system of limited democracy constrained by Shiite clerics, who have ultimate authority.

Former president Mohammad Khatami, a Mousavi ally, said in a statement that "protest in a civil manner and avoiding disturbances is the definite right of the people and all must respect that".

Iranians on social networking sites yesterday called for mourning for "Neda", a young woman shot dead on Saturday. Footage of her death has been watched by thousands on the internet and her image has become an icon of the protests.

But witnesses said security officials prevented her funeral from going ahead, blocking roads leading to a central Tehran mosque where the ceremony was to have taken place.

Iran's foreign ministry lashed out at foreign media and western governments. Ministry spokesman Hasan Qashqavi accused them of having "a racial mentality that Iranians belong to the Third World".

"Meddling by western powers and international media is unacceptable," he said at a news conference shown on state TV, taking particular aim at French president Nicolas Sarkozy.

"How can a western president, like the French president, ask for nullification of Iranian election results?" Mr Qashqavi said. "I regret such comments."

The Czech EU presidency summoned the Iranian chargé d'affaires to reject claims by Iran that the European Union had been interfering in its internal affairs.

In Rome, the Italian foreign ministry said Italy was prepared to open its embassy in Tehran to injured protesters in co-ordination with other European nations.

The move follows a Swedish initiative to look into whether European nations could put together a plan to take in and provide aid to demonstrators at their embassies in Iran, the ministry said.

Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei met Mr Ahmadinejad, parliamentary speaker Ali Larijani and judiciary chief Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi yesterday to discuss post-election developments, the ILNA news agency said. It did not elaborate.

Evoking the prospects of legal action against Mr Mousavi, Ali Shahrokhi, head of parliament's judiciary committee, said his call for "illegal protests and issuing provocative statements" had been a source of unrest.

"Such criminal acts should be confronted firmly," he said, the semi-official Fars news agency reported. "The ground is paved to pursue Mousavi legally."


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  • Last Updated: 22 June 2009 10:37 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Iran
 
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Jim A,

23/06/2009 02:13:50
#2 Nanny, not at all, we haven't seen any tanks yet.
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23/06/2009 02:20:57
The tanks are a last resort to that which worries them.
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Mashimaro,

China 23/06/2009 02:34:37
Of course this is reminiscent of Tiananmen, it's being produced by the same people. Look ye, the iconic image has not being produced, something for the people to identify with, to "get behind" to spur international outrage...
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23/06/2009 02:36:38
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Your lack of compassion for people who hold up signs in English so that this gov't would finally say something to the effect, we stand with you, those who are for freedom... that's all they want to hear... but it won't come from this President.. he is again saying "present"...and standing on a fence.
What is he afraid of? That Iran will blame us? They already have. They have blamed the US, the UK, Germany and France. There is nothing to lose.. we don't have to back a cnadidate... we just have to show moral support for those in march for freedom.
That's all the protesters are hoping for.

This bs attitude of yours.. coming across as a communist.. you are not even Chinese. You MARRIED a chinese woman, if we are to believe you.

If communism is so great... keep it to yourself.. My country fought long and hard against people like you... and by the way, you don't come off as sincere.. just someone who wants to stir the pot.

After watching a young women getting killed by a sniper on a Tehran street.. I have more than disgust for people like you and the Mullahs..

The Iranians have admitted "irregularities" in the voting, and now they are lying about the numbers.

Time will tell, and who knows.. maybe a new regime because of the people.
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23/06/2009 02:37:11
#5 Posty, "Remember this, those who get hurt that are there voluntarily deserve to get hurt, they've been warned and warned"

No one deserves to get hurt Posty, If the Iranian government is so confident, lets have another vote, I believe they rigged the vote, they new they couldn't win any other way.

I don't think this is about them wanting freedom and democracy western style, I think it's about the Iranian people wanting more freedom and democracy Iranian style. The life imposed on them by the Mullahs is way too restrictive.
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23/06/2009 02:38:23
#6 Mashimaro, Lol morning Mashi.
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Mashimaro,

23/06/2009 02:53:05
not = now
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Mashimaro,

China 23/06/2009 02:57:31
Jim, no, no one "deserves" to get hurt, but they should take some responsibility if they have been warned and still carry on. Like if a surfer is standing on a beach and a life guard says "don't go into the water, it's infested with sharks" and they go in anyway... they really can't cry about being bitten.

Lynne - yes, we know your country has fought long and hard against "people like us". You love us, love us to death.
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China 23/06/2009 02:59:32
PS, Lynne watches slyfox news... you can just tell
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Wally,

By The Rivers of Babylon (USA) 23/06/2009 03:09:36
it seems that Mousavi has a terrorist background according to people inside the US intelligence community.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/2009/06/mousavi-celebrated-in-iranian.html

As foreign minister of Iran he supervised people involved with the 1983 attack on the US Marines in Beirut.
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Jim A,

23/06/2009 03:13:21
Ah Posty, ever the compassionate for his fellow man ;-)
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W Smith,

Middle East 23/06/2009 03:16:36
Tsk tsk Editor.

You chose to run the headline "With Friends Like Israel Who Needs Iran?".

I accused this newspaper at the time of minimising and trivialising the brutaliity of this Iranian government that stones women to death and even has laws governing the size of stones to be used.

If the stones are too large they bring death to quickly.

Any chance of an apology editor for this headline?

Or would you rather delete my comment and pretend it never happened?
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Jim A,

23/06/2009 03:18:54
#17 Posty, I have to hand it to you, you know how to pick your stories. On some stories you will play the compassionate warm, caring human being. Yet on stories such as this here you are advocating violence. What's the deal with that?
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W Smith,

Middle East 23/06/2009 03:19:22
While we're at it where is Ken Loach?

Any comments from the Socialist Unity on what is going on in Iran?

At a time of bloodshed in Iran funny how the Edinburgh Festival organisers are using it as a platform to express hatred for Israel.

I suppose all this bloodshed in Tehran is Israel's fault.
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Wally,

By The Rivers of Babylon (USA) 23/06/2009 03:25:29
I agree with One More Time when he says that the continued demonstrations especially when property damage is done is going to cause violence. I chastise my fellow Americans for encouraging this violence. Easy for Lynne in Pennsylvania to encourage death in Tehran.

and who is the hero of Fox News and American tv? It is Mousavi. and as demonstrated by the link I put up Mousavi was foreign minister of Iran in the 1980's when the US government said iran was helping terrorists in Lebanon, Syria & Palestine. The Iranian ambassador to Lebanon is thought to have worked with the plot to attack the US Marines at the barracks in 1983 where over 200 of them were killed. As foreign minister it would've been Mousavi's job to supervise this stuff.

There is no evidence that Mousavi won the election. A private poll commissioned by a group in Ohio had Ahmidinejad winning by over a 2-1 margin. Other polls indicated similar things.

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_56073.shtml

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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/06/2009 03:26:06
# 2 Nannie

And the body count isn't high enough to compare it to the murderous Chinese Communist Party.

They are pretty bad the mad mullahs of Iran, but not nearly as nasty as the dictators in China.
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23/06/2009 03:36:33
Has the Iranian government shown any proof that the UK or the EU is involved in this?
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Jakarta 23/06/2009 03:37:06
Unlike China, Iran craves legitimacy.

That's why they go to the trouble of having elections.

They do this even though everyone knows that the power of those that are elected are constrained by the unelected Supreme Leader and Guardian Council.

They even decide who is Islamic enough to be a candidate.

So while Iran election are a rigged game from the outset, they are still light years ahead of China in terms of legitamcey.

About the closest thing to compare them to in China would be the sham elections they hold in Hong Kong, allowing the people to elect less than half the representatives.
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Mashimaro,

China 23/06/2009 03:37:13
#15 Slyfox is a joke among real journalists, dude.
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Wally,

By The Rivers of Babylon (USA) 23/06/2009 03:39:30
Good evening One More Time. It is morning in China, but 7:30 PM in Arizona, western US. we just had the longest run of cool days in June since 1913.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/06/19/20090619junelovely0619.html

but it's over, now it is 110 degrees F every day.

I agree with you when you said that there will be cheating in democracy's voting system because there is too much at stake. That is 100% correct. That is one of the main lessons I feel we've demonstrated in America in our history. is that we are incapable of making democracy work. We tried. We Americans think so much of ourselves that we feel that if we failed at it, then everyone else will too. If you were American, you'd feel the same.

There's a lot of money to be made by controlling government. Witness today when regulatory authority over finance and business in the US is taken from government and given to the private sector in America. You don't think someone's going to make a lot of money on that? they will.

We in America have learned that the fallen nature of people, the extreme greed for money that some people have and the tendency of people to glorify themselves means that democracy is just plain a fraud.
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china 23/06/2009 03:41:30
Heeeeeeres Jimmy.... expect Posty's remarks to be axed any second now.
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W Smith,

Middle East 23/06/2009 03:43:09
"Iran's regime has issued a ban on memorials for a young woman whose death has become the focal point of protests against the clerical regime."

The young girl's name is Neda.

The name means "the call".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/5603057/Iran-bans-prayers-for-Angel-of-Freedom-Neda-Agha-Soltan.html

The silence from Salmond, Annie Lennox, Ken Loach, George Galloway, Ken Livingstone, Tam Dalyell, Tony Benn, etc, and all the other nutcase anti-British lefties is deafening is it not?

Those who had so much to say about Guantanamo and Israel have so little to say now.
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23/06/2009 03:45:47
#24 Posty, "Remember, I'm the one against most kinds of abortion, I'm the one against the death penalty, and I'm the one that will stand up for those who are getting the shaft when not deserving to get the shaft,

Yet despite all that, here you are condoning violence. "but when it comes down to these idiots, hey, no compassion whatsoever".

Geez Posty that's a pretty sad outlook on life man.
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23/06/2009 04:28:56
#40 Posty, "So Jim, be honest here please, if your country was undergoing these violent "demonstrations", where looting and vandalizing is occurring, where a suicide bomber blows himself up and injures innocent bystanders, where your whole country is on the edge of a civil war and injuries could quite realistically reach thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands, would you want your government to stand idly by whilst your innocent family members, relatives and friends are at risk?

No I would not, but that is not what is happening here Posty.

"And please remember Jim, you're the one that earned a living at the end of a gun, that ain't me!

Actually Posty, I spent my time dealing with the aftermath, EOD. If you must use my personal military history at least get it right.
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Wally,

By The Rivers of Babylon (USA) 23/06/2009 04:35:25
Jack in 38:

a variety of people have gone out of their way to say that I am anti-American or not really American, etc. As I have received this so often and have also before responded and explained on that accusation I cannot think that your accusation is done in good faith. I think it is done because you have no substantial comment or argument to counter mine.

What do you think of the link in 18 that shows Mousavi is a terrorist from the 1980's who helped with the US Marines barracks bombing killing over 200 Americans?

What do you think of the link I put up days ago to the 70 page pdf file published by the Ohio non-profit group that commissioned a poll in Iran and showed that Ahmidinejad had over a 2-1 lead in private polls? Do you want me to put it up again?

in the future Jack Murtha, lets have discussions of substance only.

I am from the ethnic group descendant from those who arrived prior to 1700. my mother is member of Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR). meaning I'm descendant actually from multiple people that fought on our side in that war. but my full ethnic background includes 50% german arrived here prior to 1835. 20% irish arrived prior to 1835. the other 30% english that also fought in the revolution. In other words my genetic traits fit the classic white American heritage of pre-civil era. and people say that I am not American.

I have said over and over. America is a country ruled by a hostile force. Hostile to the Americans' interests and sensibilities I mean. It is a lost nation, enslaved and deluded. yet there are some who boast of freedom. There are many Americans like myself who understand in their guts that there is something wrong with the forces that rule us because they act against our sensibilities and against our interests. These people don't get represented in our government, our media, etc. and I guess the anti-Americans just can't tolerate it when they hear from us.
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Wally,

Psalm 137 (USA) 23/06/2009 04:46:17
The FH accusation is ridiculous. I spent 2 weeks on the FH site about 18 months ago. I might check it for articles 2 times a month since then. but I haven't participated in 18 months over there. and I'm accused. FH is an obscure web site. I guess I'm a figment in somebody's psychosis and that is why the accusations came.
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Mashimaro,

China 23/06/2009 05:01:58
#35 ""Iran's regime has issued a ban on memorials for a young woman whose death has become the focal point of protests against the clerical regime."

The young girl's name is Neda.

The name means "the call"."

But of course it does. She couldn't possibly be named Fatima or Yasmin. You people really need to see a movie called Wag The Dog.
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China 23/06/2009 05:05:52
#41 oooh... tongue biting in progress.
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Jim A,

23/06/2009 05:11:41
#48 Posty, Explosives Ordnance Disposal. getting rid of all the nasty things some armies leave behind them.

Posty send me a link on the suicide bomber, I can't find anything, could be wording it wrong in google.

" There is looting, there is vandalism". Hmmmm, I don't think they are teetering on the brink of civil war. Still if that's what it takes. China seems to have done ok out of a civil war.
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23/06/2009 05:13:13
I'm not sure about the police unleashing violence. It would appear the demonstrators are the one's causing it.

#46 Vote SNP
Atrocious spelling.
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Wally,

By The Rivers of Babylon (USA) 23/06/2009 05:13:36
Is it possible that a suicide bomber is the result of an undercover operation of an intelligence agency? You are not knowledgeable if you do not answer 'yes'. Is it possible that a sniper killing a female demonstrator is the result of an undercover operation of an intelligence agency? The answer is 'yes'. can an intelligence agency put demonstrators in the streets and do property vandalism? All we know is that our tv is working hard to convince us of what they want us to think. and if you know anything about the American media, then you can think 'cia' when you think mass media. professional pollsters told us Ahmidinejad was up by 2-1 margin and the fact is not broadcast on tv. but our tv does show us the iranian election process was not perfect. therefore, mousavi was rightful winner some americans think. Mousavi, the terrorist of beirut 1983 who participated in the killing of over 200 US marines.

Mousavi should not fan the flames. Protesters should be encouraged by all leaders to go home. It is troublesome that Mousavi is urging them on. I wonder what kind of a deal he has.
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23/06/2009 05:18:33
I think Mousavi should be arrested immediately for inciting violence and hatred.
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Jim A,

23/06/2009 05:29:01
#48 Posty, ok found it, the suicide bomber was a demonstrator, killed only himself in his protest. But I agree that is taking protest to the extremes.

I agree that this form of protest isn't the right way to go about it, violence, vandilism doesn't solve anything. I wonder though how the Iranian government would have handled a silent protest, people just marching, no chanting, just stood in front of the government buildings with placards saying, "we didn't vote for you". I wonder how they would have handled that.

I can't help feeling they'd handle it the same way they are handling this.
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Jim A,

23/06/2009 05:36:08
#55 Posty, ok posty well done mate, you managed to get your anti west poke in for the day.

I see no one has answered my question at #28 "Has the Iranian government shown any proof that the UK or the EU is involved in this?

Links if any please. or anything that points to the UK's part in this.

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Jim A,

23/06/2009 05:40:21
#58 Unfortunately mankind is going to have to learn the hard way.

"Thanks for the EOD explanation, don't go there and there will be nothing to clean up"

Posty a fair few of them where Chinese made munitions. Lets all stop making them and only then will there be nothing to clean up.
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Jim A,

23/06/2009 05:42:39
#58 Posty, stuff I'm reading says he was a protester who blew himself and a statue of the original mad mullah up. No one else killed, two slightly injured with cuts.
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Jim A,

23/06/2009 05:51:28
#62, Posty, the former East German people did a pretty good impersonation of it. Brought a whole wall down if memory serves me correctly.

Alas young Posters I must bid you farewell for the time being. I have to get ready for the day, got lots and lots of nice exam essays to mark today and tomorrow.

Until the next time mate, it's been good, but not real good;-)
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Jim A,

23/06/2009 06:22:04
#64 Posty, "So don't blame the manufacturer but rather the user, that's where all the problems start and that's where it needs to be stopped"

Posty, if we didn't manufacture them there wouldn't be any to use. win win situation for civvies everywhere.
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Jim A,

23/06/2009 06:23:07
Later gator, PS, your only as old as the woman you feel;-)
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 23/06/2009 07:51:33
#64 Skidders

Did you steal that defence from an NRA website. Chinese made AK's don't kill people, people do. You have got more in common with Dick Cheney than you care to admit. Have you ever shot anyone in a hunting accident?

Here in Capital of the thriving young democracy of Indonesia we average about 3 protests every day.

The news channels pre announce them in the morning so you can arrange your schedule to avoid the traffic jams they create. And guess what, the police don't shoot at the protesters.

In London they just had a continious protest lasting 73 days opposite the houses of parliament that I am sure a lot of the anti-western self loathing brigade attended.
Guess what, no dead protesters.

Compare this with Iran, the first day of protests on the 16th when the demonstrations are peacful are met with violence and death from the authorities.

Your assertions that that a Western Democratic government would have used this level of violence against peaceful protesters is rubbish, we all know you have your own agenda and that it is the basic Chinese policy of supporting ugly undemocratic regimes around the world to prevent your own isolation.






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Renfrew 23/06/2009 09:20:25
Parallels here with how we treated Czekoslovakia in 1938. Of course, in this particular case, we can rely on our own Prime Minister to have learned the lessons of the past, and to be wise, strong and decisive!
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JimC,

Kilmarnock 23/06/2009 09:22:29
An article about Iran and what do I find? China! these forums are getting to be the worst on the internet for discussion. When will the moderators start to mass delete those comments that are off topic?
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Thistledhu,

23/06/2009 10:00:59
Islam and sharia Law at its best!!!!
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23/06/2009 13:28:32
#68 KampungHighlander - Spot on. Now very clear we know who did all the killing of unarmed civilians. The present power crazy gangster regime and odd mad mullahs in Iran advocate violence and terrorise the people into submission. The election is a fraud.
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Media at One,

23/06/2009 13:46:40
The problem in Iran is that the opposition are more likely to move toward a secular society. The mad bearded ones and their allegiance to the guy who pimps virgins in heaven is very important, so expect a brutal fight.
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Julian Rapp,

23/06/2009 15:43:48
I hope all this dies down fast, there is no room for more trouble on our planet.
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Mashimaro,

China 24/06/2009 02:41:04
#75 You have no proof of that. They were both approved by the mad bearded ones. There is nothing to suggest what everyone is hoping.

Do any of our american friends not see the irony of this vicarious "march to freedom"? As your own civil liberties are being cut back, as your government socialises the debt of your fat cats, and props up your businesses and your people suffer... maybe you should be the ones taking to the streets to demand your own rights back. But I guess you're all too afraid of being tazered.
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Rattlesnake,

15/07/2009 15:58:16
The UK should stay right away from all foreign countries and stop causing trouble.

 

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