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Published Date: 21 September 2007
A LESBIAN couple in Australia are suing their doctor after they had twin girls from an in vitro fertilisation (IVF) procedure, when they wanted only one child.
The women are seeking about A$400,000 (£170,000) in damages to help pay for the cost of raising the second child, including private school fees, saying they had made it clear to their doctor they wanted only one baby.

The twins are now three year
s old and the civil case, the first of its kind in Australia, has prompted debate about the value of children and the role of parents.

"The litigation involving twins already three years old undermines the importance of parenthood," Guy Barnett, a conservative government senator, said.

"We seem more intent on preserving and pandering to the wishes of adults than we are in protecting the rights of children."

The court has ordered a gag on the identity of the women, who used donor sperm from a Danish doctor for the successful IVF treatment.

The court has heard they signed a consent form to allow two embryos to be implanted but specifically told the specialist they wanted only one embryo implanted.

The court was told the birth of the twins had created considerable stress within the couple's relationship, but lawyers for the doctor said almost every couple who had a child faced similar strain.



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  • Last Updated: 20 September 2007 10:12 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: IVF treatment
 
1

Yane,

21/09/2007 02:05:52

Didn't they read what they signed?

2

busybee,

USA 21/09/2007 04:26:07

I wonder what this is going to do to the unwanted twin's self-esteem...
Suing over this, that's retarded...

3

The Daleks,

21/09/2007 04:38:22

Disgusting.

4

The Fly Fifer,

Fife 21/09/2007 04:42:28

and folks wonder why there is so much hatred against lesbians and gays and their makydo families ..............

5

Cappo Del Monte,

21/09/2007 06:02:25

Now would they have sued if sadly both embryos hadnt made it, also strange its taken them 3 years to decide.
Thats the way to bring up kids, turn one into a freak by stating in the media that you didnt want him/her.
probably would have been way better had the doc said sod off. With this sue sue sue types now, its surprising doctors/ health services even want to treat any patient

6

james 1st,

nz 21/09/2007 06:11:23

+they should not have been allowed to have invitro fertilisation in the first place,and both children should be taken off them, with their attitude they just have to be lousy parents

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sceptic,

livingston 21/09/2007 07:13:49

First mother I have heard of who wasn't thrilled to be blessed with twins.

9

steve 1511,

21/09/2007 07:42:57

disgusting freak show

10

Giraffe,

Edinburgh 21/09/2007 07:48:52

It beggars belief. They are lucky to have one kid never mind two. No doubt their gay rights will pop into this somewhere along the lines. I wonder which child they don't want. It's pathetic, the case should be thrown out of court and they should be sent packing and told to be grateful for what they've got.

11

Gnasher,

21/09/2007 08:30:06

I'm sure the court in Australia will note these homophobic comments with interest.

I do hope it throws this case out, though, and that courts in the UK would do the same. You shouldn't be able to get compensation for having had children by means of IVF.

12

PJ,

Edinburgh 21/09/2007 08:33:17

As Adrian Cronauer (Robin Williams) said in Good Morning Vietnam “we can't even say lesbian anymore, it's women in comfortable shoes.”

13

Pickleskin 25,

I love you all the same....except you!!! 21/09/2007 08:36:32

IVF Treatment should be given only to those who cannot concieve naturally, those women would have been trully ecstatic at the knowledge of having even one child, never mind the blessing of two.

Outrageous attitude and outrageous to have let them have the procedure in the first place!!

14

Boy Wonder,

21/09/2007 08:44:13

I know several mothers who are lesbian and they are disgusted at this Australian couple.

Throw this case out of court!!!

15

Silence of the Yams,

21/09/2007 08:55:01

I disgusted at lesbian mothers period. Should be illegal.

16

Stu_R_20,

Edinburgh 21/09/2007 09:28:01

#16, I absolutely agree homosexual adoption is wrong, but our decent ideals are lost in a sea of brain-washing PC nonsense.

17

Mammaw,

USA 21/09/2007 09:41:04

How can anyone so blessed do anything less than be joyful and love those little ones?
I wonder if they had made plans to have more children.
I wonder what kind of nurturing these babies are receiving.
I wonder how many women would be more than happy to take both children as a package deal and pour out their love lavishly upon them.

18

Charles Linskaill,

Wish I wasna here 21/09/2007 10:06:29

Cold hearted minger's,! is that how they a life?
Some of us would be 'over-the-moon' just to get the chance of being pregnant, far less the 'Absolute' joy and wonder for having twins!
This really makes my blood boil, when some me us 'want-a-baby' Soo much! :@

19

Charles Linskaill,

Wish I wasna here 21/09/2007 10:29:36

~19, Aye its me! Few errors in my comment, blame the phone not me! Not on the pc, :'(
Should say, 'is how they value' and end text 'some of us'
Anyway still angry when I think about these horrible 'self-centered' Bitc***!

20

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21/09/2007 10:46:40
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21

Ginny B,

Out to lunch 21/09/2007 12:04:57

The issue isn't gay people here, its just people who want designer families. As a woman - I'm horrified that they could think and behave that way. As a gay woman - I think, they're people first and gay second, and I'm still horrified. They haven't, however, behaved that way because they're gay, they've behaved that way because of their own personalities, and maybe the chance of making a few quid. However, they signed a contract for goodness sake.

22

JG,

Fife 21/09/2007 12:15:00

They shouldn't waste any more money on these revolting people. Chuck the case out and take the babies into care. Oh, and make them pay costs for wasting the court's time!

23

yolanda,

21/09/2007 12:19:38

I don't agree with lesbian couples having IVF anyway, but this particular case shows this pair to be ungrateful, greedy, petulant morons who don't even deserve to own a goldfish! Are they going to point to one of the twins and say "We don't want THAT one?" I would remove the children and place them in the care of people who have the maturity, love and compassion that these two lack. The kids deserve better than having Mummy and Mummy not appreciating what a blessing they are.

24

Boy Wonder,

21/09/2007 12:33:39

Nature designed gay people NOT to have children ... so wtf is going on???

I can understand (and know) several formerly married women and mothers who are lesbian, but have become like that because of their treatment at the hands of violent fathers, husbands and boyfriends! Frankly I can't blame them. But they already have kids!

It's not this Ozzie pair who just want a child as a fashion accessory!!

25

makeorbreak,

edinburgh 21/09/2007 13:40:42

break what was meant to be, and reap the consequences... so now what you get is that one of the twins are going to be a burden to them. if it were "real" parents, they would love them both!

26

makeorbreak,

edinburgh 21/09/2007 13:47:00

18. Mammaw, USA / 10:41am 21 Sep 2007

You are assuming that they have that kind of love! Love and lust are kinda misplaced these days. What they find for one another may not be what they can give to children. Fun, yes. Food, yes. Fickle-mindedness, yes. Deep-down, there will be something they can't give. They can't and won't admit it. Why do you think they panic? why do you think they want to sue?

27

Charles Linskaill,

fridays 'rock' I think! 21/09/2007 13:52:42

Thing also Boy Wonder and yolanda, When on IVF you are TOLD there is a strong possibility of conceiving more than one Baby, its a well known fact!
If and when my DYW and I get our next appointment for IVF and we get pregnant, we 'joke' about triplets, if this happens we would be 'dancing-for-joy' and every one of these Baba's would be
'Loved-to-bits' 24/7
Its a cruel world sometimes! and I cant 'for-the-life-of-me', understand people like this, Babies are NOT Plasma TV's! as we all have said!

28

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21/09/2007 14:11:32
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AD in sunny Livingston,

21/09/2007 14:14:31

Absolutely outrageous - this pair should be sued for wasting the court's time (and everybody else involved).

What would have happened if they'd done it the "old fashioned" lesbian way, with the gay male friend and the turkey baster - who would they have sued then???? The friend or the baster??!!

Seriously though - they obviously don't love children and just wanted a possession.

30

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 21/09/2007 15:13:18

#16 and #17

What intelligent and pondered postings you two cretins have made.

You ignorant homophobia is highly evident as is your intolerance of anything that you both deem not in your "mind-frames" - if you had any minds or intelligence.

I think these two lesbians would not make good mothers if they reject one twin and should have been more carefully screened for psychological stability before being inseminated.

They bring discredit to all the good and loving lesbian mothers worldwide.

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21/09/2007 15:32:57
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 21/09/2007 15:55:01

#16 and #17

I am NOT a "heterophobe" as you so blithely put it.

It is just that I detest ignorant, uninformed, uneducated, stupid people - of which you two are pime examples.

34

Stu_R_20,

Edinburgh 21/09/2007 16:44:37

#35
And I am sick of jumped up liberal morons like youself. I do not dislike gays, i merely disagree with the idea of them adopting as our friend above has pointed out. And I'm studying for a masters, and soon to be pHD, in economics so don't through about your internet slander at me you fool.

35

Conan the Librarian,

21/09/2007 17:42:24

#36
I think you mean"throw"and"libel".
Good luck with your Phd.
:-)

36

Horrible Cankers esq,

The Cyber Shebeen 21/09/2007 19:25:15

All the homophobic comments on this article are a sad reflection on the society that we are still living in. As far as it being 'unnatural' I would just like to remind you of some other things that are 'unnatural'...IVF for anyone...organ transplants..blood transfusions...plastic and reconstructive surgery...hair transplants..breast enlargement/reduction...penile implants...vasectomys...oral contraceptives and HRT...chemotherapy...laser scar/hair removal...etc etc etc...It is the 21st century and we can now explore outer space...yet as it fast approaches 2008 it would appear as if we were stuck in 1908 with some of the attitudes here...

Children need love..and care..they can get that from one mother or two. The women in this case were probably advised by some shark to go for it...I just hope they do not regret it for the rest of their lives. Aside from that they knew the risks and should have no case.

37

Paula,

21/09/2007 19:45:10

It isn't so much to do with their sexual preference rather it is the fact that these two are not fit to be parents. There are plenty of hetero women who haven't the nurturing instinct either.

How can they do this? They obviously have no idea about twins, and which one will they say they didn't want because twins do have an inner competitiveness with their sibling. They should have both girls taken off them and given them to someone who would truly cherish them.

As said, it is this mentality that children are an accessory that brings on this.

38

AD in sunny Livingston,

21/09/2007 20:26:47

At last, some sense, well said Paula!

39

Charles Linskaill,

Tried to be romantic, but no luck! 21/09/2007 20:33:54

~39. Paula, I agree, for me I don't care if someones Gay, 'Live-and-let-Live, lets face it a heterosexual couple may do the same, its the mentality this couple have wanting to sue over their twins.
Theses Babies were growing in mummy's womb for 9months together, to not count them, or say you only wanted one child is 'just-wrong' after-all, am I wrong in thinking, to separate them even at birth would be cruel, surely they would know something was wrong/missing from their life.
Anyone watch mad 'corrie'? Sean the guy that's Gay, if in 'real-life' would make a real loving father!
Children, need to KNOW they are ,
LOVED, VALUED, and WANTED!

40

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 21/09/2007 20:51:23

#36

From your postings, you are DEFINITELY NOT PhD material. Stick with struggling with your Masters.

It is as far as YOU are going to get.

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22/09/2007 03:13:41
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Horrible Cankers esq,

The Cyber Shebeen 22/09/2007 16:17:12

Yes dear...no more port for you...you'v obviously got gout on the brain....


 

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