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Published Date: 17 October 2008
MOVE over "Joe Sixpack": the Republicans' presidential election campaign has found a new hero.
Mr Sixpack, the everyman invoked on the stump alongside "hockey moms" in speeches made by vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin as the ordinary guy chasing the American Dream, has been replaced by Joe the Plumber.

This real-life character has be
en catapulted into the centre of what remains of the campaign season.

John McCain badly needed a "game-changer" at the third and final presidential debate with Barack Obama yesterday, and an Ohio plumber, Joe Wurzelbacher, 34, may have stepped up to the plate.

Mr Wurzelbacher was captured on film last Sunday, sporting a grey T-shirt and confronting Mr Obama during an impromptu campaign stop in Holland, Ohio, to ask him about his tax plan.

The plumber informed Mr Obama that he was on the point of buying a business valued at more than $250,000, and demanded to know why he would now be paying more tax as a result.

Mr Obama was forced to admit that, under his tax plans, the plumber, like 184,000 other small businesses across the United States, may well end up shouldering a greater tax burden, and that was just the opening Mr McCain needed to score a few hits.

The two candidates mentioned Joe no fewer than 26 times. By contrast, Iraq was mentioned just six times during their 90 minutes of debate at New York's Hofstra University.

Mr McCain said: "I would like to mention that a couple of days ago Senator Obama was out in Ohio and he had an encounter with a guy who's a plumber, his name is Joe Wurzelbacher. You were going to put him in a higher tax bracket."

Cornered after the debate to see if he had been convinced by any of Mr Obama's rhetoric, Mr Wurzelbacher seemed taken aback by the sudden avalanche of publicity.

He told reporters: "I was just really surprised that my name was mentioned. I think it helped them get their points across, so I was happy about that."

During the debate, Mr McCain was unable to make much more progress by returning to the character attacks of recent days to make headway with voters.

Joe the Plumber, on the other hand, may now give Mr McCain something to work with.

Karl Rove, the architect of George Bush's two election victories, told the Wall Street Journal: "Mr Obama hasn't closed the sale."

However, others question how potent the Wurzelbacher issue can become. Bill McPherson, a political analyst said: "I don't think that Joe the Plumber is going to get any traction, and the reason is that most Americans don't make anywhere near $250,000 a year, so they are not going to worry about paying an extra 3 per cent."

Viewers seemed to agree. Snap polls after the debate showed that most thought Mr Obama had won the debate, with CNN giving Mr Obama 58 per cent to Mr McCain's 31 per cent.

For McCain supporters, the Joe the Plumber line of attack injected something new into the presidential debates, which have started to become dull .

A CNN poll yesterday found that 67 per cent of voters don't want to see more before election day, 4 November.

And with Mr McCain languishing in the polls, he had no choice but to go on the attack.

However, there were barbs from Mr Obama, too, including one about those cries of "kill him" and "terrorist" aimed at the Democrat candidate that have been heard at recent McCain rallies.

Mr McCain responded: "Let me say categorically that I am proud of the people who come to my rallies. I am not going to stand for anybody saying that the people who come to our rallies are anything other than patriotic citizens."

Mr Obama failed to press the point further, reverting to his own tactics of pounding away on the theme that Mr McCain represents four more years of the policies of the hugely unpopular Bush administration.

He said: "I don't mind being attacked for the next three weeks. What the American people can't afford is four more years of failed economic policies."

With the debates over and the two candidates now heading for the final straights of their respective campaigns, Mr McCain and his campaign supporters have it all to do.

Even if he wins the six remaining toss-up states – those where polls oscillate between the two candidates – Mr Obama will still win the White House.





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  • Last Updated: 16 October 2008 11:16 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: John McCain
 
1

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

17/10/2008 00:34:14

Re: Joe the Plumber ( ABC News)

In typical fashion, McCain runs rampant with delusion
and Joe is the latest victim. . .

"There is a judgment lien against him for nonpayment of income tax," Barb Losie, deputy clerk of the Lucas County Court of Common Pleas, told ABCNews.com. "The state files hundreds of liens a day. It means he owes that money."

Losie said Wurzelbacher owes $1,182 from January 2007, but no action has been taken against him outside of filing the lien.

A second lien has been filed in the courhouse against Wurzelbacher for $1,261 that he apparently owes St. Charles Mercy Hospital. That lien was filed in March 2007.

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Poor Joe can't even pay for his health care, much less consider buying a business. He is EXACTLY the guy who would benefit from the Obama tax plan, as well as health care for working folks like himself.

2

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

17/10/2008 01:03:27
( Assoc. Press)

"On Thursday in New Hampshire, Obama said McCain was misleading voters by proposing tax plans that favor the rich while criticizing an Obama tax plan that would raise taxes only on people making more than $250,000 a year, just 5 percent of all taxpayers.

"He's trying to suggest that a plumber is the guy he's fighting for," Obama said. "How many plumbers you know that are making a quarter-million dollars a year?"

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McCain is old and feeble-minded and now "Joe the Plumber" will live in infamy as a right-wing-manipulated fool who shot his AM radio mouth off about
the "socialist" stifling of free enterprise.

The guy needs some tax relief and proper health care !




3

Carolyn 1,

17/10/2008 03:12:24
Joe is gonna need some of these Obama Bucks when the dems get finished with him:
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_buck16.3d67d4a.html

4

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia - God's Country 17/10/2008 04:04:11
Joe Wurzelbacher, the plumber namechecked more than a dozen times in the debate, appears on a number of media outlets; media inquiries into his background reveal that he is a registered Republican, without an Ohio plumber's licence, who was accused of failure to pay state taxes in 2007.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7675150.stm

Desperation sets in as Obama annihilates the squirming republicans once and for all

Strike 3 for the republicans
5

Postmark-55,

China, 17/10/2008 06:21:58
It seems anybody can get their 15 minutes of fame in the US. I mean a plumber, come on, only two things he needs to know. Payday is on Friday and sh!t doesn't run uphill.
Who's next, the undertaker, oh wait, he's already famous.
6

Bigwull,

edinburgh 17/10/2008 08:31:30
I'm sure if you earn $300000 you can afford to pay a bit more tax, mind you it's America we're talking about, greed is good
7

Douglas,

Bathgate 17/10/2008 08:38:24
As Rod @ #5 notes, the plumber is unlicenced so in effect is "Joe the handyman who'll do you a good price for cash so no receipt ok?" Should have no problems fitting in with politicians at all.
8

Globetrotter_scot,

17/10/2008 09:26:15
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7675278.stm

Samuel the "plumber"
9

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 17/10/2008 10:52:23
McCains' efforts just get funnier by the day. Can't the election be brought forward to save him any more embarassment.
10

SouthernGent,

17/10/2008 15:05:38
Once again, the media and posters here have sunk to a new low when they feel the need to get as much dirt as they can on "Joe the Plumber". High road? Low road? You choose.
11

Sandi,

San Diego 17/10/2008 16:17:54
#1,

Joe is not the only person to hav tax liens. The treasurer of Obama's campaign also has tax liens and so do his companies. Which is more relevant to the US - Joe the plumber or the treasurer of Obama's campaign, who is a potential candidate for US treasurer should Obama be elected?

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/17/guess-who-else-has-tax-liens/

Keep on boasting about how Obama made fun of Joe the plumber, and all plumbers. Any candidate with any intelligence at all knows you do not make jokes at the expense of potential voters.
12

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

17/10/2008 17:23:22

Sandi:

Joe the Plumber is an average guy asking a legitimate question. Since it was unclear whether or not the business was valued at $250,000. or he was stating that he expected to earn $250,000. , Obam'a response was very general.

The hubbub about all of this is the way that McCain seized upon this poor guy, repeating his name over and over again, making an annoying symbol of him for all to hear.

McCain held him up at the epitome of the American entrepreneurial spirit, which turned out to be somewhat different in reality.

McCain apologized to him last night for throwing him under the "bus" of scrutiny by the press.

It's a shame that Joe walked right into something that he was unaware of, but the real fault lies in McCains exploitation of this working guy, only to have it humiliate both of them.

McCain's judgement is so far off the mark. . .
13

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta CA for more WAR VOTE McCain 17/10/2008 17:36:58
Dudes .

This "Spread the wealth" take, from Obama 's answer to a lying GOP supporter ,Joe NOT Plumber, is used in isolation by the geriatric McCain's attack dogs .

I mean how low can the GOP GO.

Obama a youger intelligent American man, has made a giant step forward in American politic in less than 5 years .

McCain the geriatric, has been in politics most of his life and has attempted to run for US Pres. for past 10 years and so far FAILED.

Now it looks like the evil Bush inherited his stupidity genes from his Dad.

here is a statement made by this dad in 1987

George H.W. Bush, as presidential nominee for the Republican party; 1987-AUG-27: "No, I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God.

No wonder my country is in the mess its in, with such angry , evil GOP leaders at the helm, living in their world of crowd control magic (Religion) and squawking about "in DOG we trust"


Chill Dudes...Chill

GC
14

Sandi,

San Diego 17/10/2008 17:39:10
#14,

No, the "hubbub" of all this is the way the media and Obama-supporting blogs have behaved. Why should any citizen of this country have to deal with any of that for asking a presidential candidate a question and voicing a political opinion, not an insult, just an opinion?

Do not deflect the abysmal behavior of the Obama campaign and it supporters on to McCain. His campaign has NEVERT treated any of Obama's supporters this way. NEVER! NOT ONCE! Not even the choice pieces of work who "proudly" wear those tee shirts that say "Sarah Palin is a c***".

This is all becoming more obvious to ordinary Americans, and it will affect the outcome of this election.
15

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

17/10/2008 17:52:59

#16 - Sandi ( Your question below)

"Why should any citizen of this country have to deal with any of that for asking a presidential candidate a question and voicing a political opinion, not an insult, just an opinion?"

I agree completely - WHY ?

Because McCain repeated and repeated and repeated this
guy's name, over and over in the debate, some 26 times, or so. McCain ran him through the political mill.

McCain and ONLY McCain was responsible for this utter nonsense. Do you expect the world press to overlook yet another example of his poor judgement ?

Wasn't Sarah enough of a laughing stock ? Now McCain picks on an average working guy and holds him up to public scrutiny to score some desperate political advantage, with predictable failure.

Another embarrassment, another reason to put McCain out to pasture.







16

Sandi,

San Diego 17/10/2008 18:15:19
#17,

So anyone McCain mentions is fair game for this type of character assassination? No, it is not right and the people who do it need to stop blaming other people for their own actions.

"He made me do it" doesn't work for eight year olds, from supposed adults it is worse than pathetic.
17

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

17/10/2008 18:40:56

ANYONE associated with anyone in the public eye is
subject to scrutiny, you know that !

When it involves high political office, you can bet that all people, whether they be Wm. Ayres, Rev. Wright, or "Joe" will be looked at from every possible perspective and dealt with in the left, right and center media. All of this information is eventually digested by the public and worked into the political "mix."

How has it EVER been otherwise ?
18

Sandi,

San Diego 17/10/2008 18:46:45
It has been otherwise this entire election cycle as far as the major media and Obama and his buddies are concerned.

Are you seriously suggesting that Joe, who has had maybe two days of very slight connection with McCain's campaign and none that we know of with McCain himself, is comparable to Ayers (at least fifteen years friendship with Obama) or Wright (twenty years of Obama sitting in a pew listening to hate "sermons" and black liberation theology. Obama called him "uncle", he married the Obamas and baptised their children)? Is that the best the emails offered today?
19

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

17/10/2008 18:55:25
#20 -

Let's stick to the point, eh ?

In no way am I comparing the personal histories of Wright or Ayers to "Joe." I responded to your concern for the media frenzy regarding McCain's use of this man as a political marketing tool, and the subsequent media sideshow.

As to any judgement of Ayers or Wright, that would be your own personal assessment of each man, based on what news sources you wished to believe.
20

Laurette,

Carlsbad, California 17/10/2008 19:00:35
#20 I think I'd be more concerned about McCain's connection with G Gordon Liddy who still, along with Michael Savage, Michelle Malkin et al practice their hate speech every day on Right Wing talk radio - and lets not forget Rick Roberts and Rush Limbaugh.
I have never seen a more hateful, divisive campaign since Palin was brought on the ticket
Palin's association with Pastor Thomas Muthee might be questioned since he wants only Born Agains in government. Palin's husband may not be able to get a Security Clearance because of his relationship with the AIP. She carries a lot of baggage and she is the one whipping up the hate at her rallies.
21

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 17/10/2008 20:31:50
Laurette... if Obama went for a gov't job with the CIA or FBI, or the hundreds of other departments of the alphabet, he would not have gotten a job with them because he is a security risk.
So, at the highest Gov't job in the country, he is no longer a security risk?
22

SouthernGent,

17/10/2008 20:42:02
"ANYONE associated with anyone in the public eye is
subject to scrutiny, you know that !"


Must be time to run background checks and smear campaigns on every baby and child hugged or kissed by either candidate over the last 4 years.

What a ridiculous comment.
23

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

17/10/2008 22:44:38

#24- Southern Gent-

All of your repetitive, am radio postings can be summed up in two words:

Racial Paranoia -


When Obama is elected, you will be furious, as you are now.

After a while, you'll merely grumble a bit, maybe kick a cat or two !

After a while, you will be happy that we have a thinking person in the White House, but will never admit it to anyone, especially your family, I suspect.
Can't be a "flip-flopper, you know !

24

SouthernGent,

17/10/2008 23:20:26
Must be missing something, I guess I need my own show.

I made peace with myself long ago, adversity makes us stronger. I'll adapt to whatever outcome, but don't count your chickens too soon, it may bite you.
25

SouthernGent,

17/10/2008 23:24:24
And as far as "racial paranoia" is concerned. I don't have a "race" problem, I have a "party" problem. And just in case you did not know, there are people of color that don't vote for democrats. I guess they get tied of working for those that won't too.
26

Virginian,

USA 18/10/2008 00:37:26
327 SouthernGent

Quote: "And just in case you did not know, there are people of color that don't vote for democrats."

Answer: SG, so true.

It is just as likely that the Bradley Effect is due to the many intelligent black people voting for the white candidate when it is assumed that they voted for the black one.

Unfortunately, black voters could be open to radicals' taunts of being "Uncle Toms" if they admitted to voting for a white candidate rather than a black one.

"Racial paranoia" taunts are transparent attempts at reverse psychology to pressure weak-minded voters to vote based on race rather than merit.

How can the many white voters who encouraged Colin Powell to run for President but wouldn't consider voting for Obama be called racist?

Race-baiting radicals will not answer that question but will immediately attack the character or record of Powell to deflect the argument away from their charge of racism.

What about those black people who complained that Obama "wasn't black enough?" After all, Obama is only half white by his mother and half American from his Kenyan father.

Assuming that all black voters will choose Obama insults the intelligence and ability of all black Americans to decide for themselves who to vote for.

Perhaps the poll takers should consider that possibility.
27

SouthernGent,

18/10/2008 01:40:06
#28

Its a shame that one would even have that tool in their bag. If in doubt, play the race card.

 

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