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Published Date: 25 November 2008
TO buy, or not to buy: that is the question. Is this a toaster I see before me? It's a £39.95 Krupps Expert two-slicer, with the label "VAT slashed!"
Do I kick-start the economy and purchase? The VAT saving is 90p.

Enter Left, attractive shop assistant with silver tongue: "If you want to save the economy, sir, why not go for the Delonghi Iconn four-slice model, down from £68 to £59.95. It's a
real bargain."

At that price, so it should be. The VAT saving is £1.50. If I buy this could I really save us from Japanese deflation and a lost decade? But if I wait a bit, it might be lower still in the January sales.

Enter Right, passer-by: "That's the paradox of thrift, mate."

But if I don't buy now and the pound slumps, the price could soar by the spring.

Assistant: "If you're looking to maximise your VAT saving, sir, why not go for the Dualit DCT3 conveyor belt toaster? The family will love it. At £799.95 you'll be Gordon Brown's best friend. The VAT saving is £20."

Mmm. That would certainly register in the John Lewis weekly sales figures. Might send the economy into inflationary overdrive.

Here's the toaster I'm after. It's a white Morphy Richards two-slicer, just the job at £12.99. But the VAT saving is a measly 33p. Is that really a buying trigger?

Voice of Darling: "Just buy the bloody toaster."

Mmmm. I suppose could buy it on easy terms on the in-store credit card with an APR of 32 per cent.

Assistant: "Can I wrap it for you, sir?"

Not today, thank you.


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Queen D,

Glasgow 25/11/2008 08:48:28
Yep , it is unlikely to kick start anything other than the number of small businesses hitting the buffers.
Time and money changing the set up that adds/subtracts vat obviously is of no interest to the Govt.
They are doing the smoke and mirrors trick all over again, must have something to do with the recall of the evil spinners of the past.
2

Fred Quimby,

25/11/2008 11:06:39
After the initial flurry the stores etc will absorb the 2.5% drop and boost their margins, just like the banks with their bailout.

Plain on the nose of Gordon's ugly face.

Naieve and incompetent, the Labour Party and oh, I forgot, corrupt to the core.

Brown is certifiably mad.
3

Observer. 1,

Glasgow 25/11/2008 12:54:27
There won't even be an initial flurry. Most stores are discounting things 10, 15, 20 % to boost christmas sales. No one will even notice 2.5 %. All the idiot Darling has done is give away revenue.
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25/11/2008 13:35:24
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Miss H,

25/11/2008 14:26:11
I am expecting huge savings in the Christmas/New Year sales.

I couldn't care less about a small reduction in VAT. Whether it will make any difference to businesses remains to be seen but it will mean hee haw for consumers who will be waiting for the massive discounts in the sales.
6

The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

25/11/2008 15:50:15
#5 My own view is that the VAT cut will have an effect on businesses themselves but not consumers.

Although we see the big job loss figures it is the 5, 10 and 20 jobs in these small to medium businesses that are the real reason for rising unemployment. The cut in VAT is primarily aimed at keeping SMEs in business not at stimulating consumer spending. Labour is trying to reduce the chances of mass layoffs due to these sorts of business closure. There were also other measures that would assist in this aim, particulalry in improving business cash flow:

* The planned increase in the small companies' rate of corporation tax - worth £400m - has been deferred for a year

• Empty properties will be exempt from business rates over 2009/10, as long as they have a rateable value of less than £15,000 - which counts for around 70% of empty properties

• Legislation is planned to give businesses more time to pay certain backdated business rates bills issued before 31 March 2010

• UK small businesses will also get around £4bn of lending from the European Investment Bank (EIB) between 2008 and 2011, with £1bn before the end of this year

* A Small Business Finance Scheme is to be set up to support up to £1bn of bank lending, together with another guarantee facility for up to £1bn of bank support to small exporters

• Businesses in financial difficulty will be able to spread payment of their tax bills over an indefinite time period

Labour wants the SMEs to stay in business so it avoids the substantial job losses that their closure would bring. The move (along with other SME-related measures) has been done not only for economic reasons but for political survival.
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Miss H,

25/11/2008 17:06:08
6 That is fair enough. If it is something to help businesses then that is sensible but it will have no effect on consumers.

The other measures also seem sensible - though I think that there is rates relief on empty properties in Scotland already.
8

Alan B,

25/11/2008 19:48:40
I doubt it will help business. Firstly to help them at all they will have to effectively not pass on the reduction in vat.

But it will be an adminstrative nightmare for some companies introducing this change for a short time.

They would have been far better reducing business rates for business than reducing vat. Reducing employer national insurance.

VAT is just silly and headline grabbing.

The other problem small business will have is getting paid. The government have not done anything about that before.

Fed question for you then: Will this not hit small business that are vat registered but are registered for 13.5% VAT and not 17.5%. Normally small business that operate in that way keep the 4%. Closing the gap will hit small business unless that 13.5% rate has also been changed.
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mike3,

25/11/2008 20:49:32
Presumably if people continue to buy as and when they have the free cash, as before, then the VAT change will just mean a loss of revenue.
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