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Brown puts education at forefront of 'people party' fightback against SNP



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Published Date: 28 March 2008
GORDON BROWN will today try to reclaim the political initiative from the Nationalists by urging Labour's Scottish activists to unite behind the party's plans for education.
The Prime Minister, in his first speech to the Scottish Labour Conference since he took over from Tony Blair last year, will claim the "people's party" is the only one able to prepare the country for the economic challenges of the 21st century.

He will contrast that with the SNP's record on investment since taking power last May, claiming it had failed to commission a single new school building.

Mr Brown will also give his strong personal backing to Wendy Alexander, the party's embattled Scottish leader – and have a dig at the Scottish Government by referring to it by its old title of "Executive".

He is set to say: "Scotland stands on the brink of unprecedented prosperity, but is held back by an Executive that doesn't understand the modern world and has no plan except to retreat from it. While Labour had built or refurbished 328 schools and were promising to build 250 more, the SNP have commissioned not a single new school building in the last ten months.

"They said they would match our historic investment in schools brick for brick – tell that to pupils at Elgin High or Dumbarton Academy whose developments have been cancelled, or to parents at so many other schools facing delayed investment.

"And while Labour got record numbers of young people into higher and further education, the SNP have cut the budgets of colleges, universities and enterprise agencies – precisely the institutions which could equip our people to prosper in the decades to come.

"Labour will fight on the side of our communities, with parents, pupils, tenants, patients, pensioners. We will be their last line of defence, the people's party." The conference at Aviemore is the first since devolution to find Scottish Labour in opposition. Much of the agenda will focus on Ms Alexander's three key themes of "reform, reconnect and renew" – some of which deals with the way the party operates on the ground.

She has already driven through changes to the way the party finds and targets likely voters by putting the whole system online. However, agents and candidates will also be looking for ways to increase the number of members and activists, a worsening problem for Labour in Scotland over the last few years.

Part of the conference will deal with new policy ideas, particularly in education, the one area which Ms Alexander feels Labour has to make its own ahead of the election of 2011.

Last night, Ms Alexander said she was "relishing" her first conference as leader.

Douglas Alexander, the International Development Secretary and Ms Alexander's brother, is due to address the conference today while Des Browne, the Scottish Secretary, will close the conference with a speech on Sunday.

THE SIX STEPS LABOUR MUST TAKE
WHAT Labour needs to do in Aviemore this week.

• 1. Wendy Alexander needs to assert her authority over the party, following six months of problems and stuttering performances. She needs to emerge from conference energised by the full backing of her party.

• 2. The Scottish Labour Party needs to be galvanised to prepare it for three years of battles with the SNP. Activists need to leave determined to harry the government from opposition.

• 3. Gordon Brown has to inspire the delegates. He has to show his Scottish party, particularly those who felt let down by Tony Blair, that he really has been worth waiting for.

• 4. The leadership has to get backing for its "renew, reform and reconnect" agenda. Party managers have set much store on the internal reforms to streamline campaigning.

• 5. Labour has to set the political agenda. By the end of the weekend, no-one should be in any doubt what the party's message is and what it stands for.

• 6. The party has to patch up its differences with local government. Party leaders need to take time on the fringes of conference to make up with Labour councillors. They will need their support in the future.

The full article contains 698 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

Richardinho,

28/03/2008 00:08:15
'Labour's Scottish activists '

Who are these people?
2

Jimmy the Pie,

28/03/2008 00:12:26
It's a bit rich describing New Labour Sleaze and Corruption as 'the people's party'. Cash for honours, PFI/PPP, illegal wars, no European referendum, shambolic immigration/asylum policies, education and health services in disarray. The North British branch led by a complete idiot, surrounded by complete idiots and advised by complete idiots. Face up to it Broon - you've blown it north and south of the border.
3

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28/03/2008 00:13:34
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oder,

Scotland 28/03/2008 00:13:41
"Scotland stands on the brink of unprecedented prosperity,"

this will get howls of laughter! from anyone with commonsense! so as long as he says it to party members! it should be OK Gordy!
5

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28/03/2008 00:13:52
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6

TommyKaye,

UK 28/03/2008 00:13:56
Same Circus different tent
7

Jimmy the Pie,

28/03/2008 00:16:24
#2 Continued.

Billions poured into Northern Rock, gold flogged off for a pittance, ID cards, oath of loyalty, Peter Hain, Harriet Harmon, Mike Watson, Lard Foolkes, Michael Martin, Blunkett, Prescott, Mandleson.
8

Anonym,

on three different pages 28/03/2008 00:17:56
Why is this story on three different pages...

uk... politics... and 'breaking news'...
9

Wardog,

Buckie 28/03/2008 00:17:57

The headline says it all, Wendy move over

10

ptdoug,

28/03/2008 00:21:10
"GORDON BROWN will today try to reclaim the political initiative from the Nationalists by urging Labour's Scottish activists to unite behind the party's plans for education"

They only have 3 activists left. The rest have come over from the darkside and joined Scotlands party... The SNP.

And that is the main reason they will lose the next election... too many (incompetent) chiefs... and their indians have all ran away.
11

Jimmy the Pie,

28/03/2008 00:24:10
#2 Continued

Armed services starved of resources, service personnel treated worse than prisoners, Millenium Dome, nepotism and cronyism on a grand scale. Yes the 'people's party'!!!!!!!
12

blueguru,

US 28/03/2008 00:25:04
Six things that Labour need to do?

1) Wendy Alexander? What authority?

2) Galvanized? You need steel for galvanizing. They don't have any.

3) Gordon Broon inspirational? What are you guys on?

4) Backing for empty rhetoric. From whom?

5) Set the political agenda? Have they forgotten that they are up against Salmond, the wiliest operator of them all!

6) Patch of their differences with local government? Aye, restoring ring fencing will certainly do that.

I just hope that the last member to leave the party remembers to put out the light.

Not rest in peace, but gie' us peace!
13

DaveK,

Edinburgh 28/03/2008 00:31:43
Well perhaps we can have a debate about public services and the issues that really matter to the people of this country, rather than the usual rhetoric and jingoism that seems to spout forth from the SNP. Rather than a smudge and fudge over a "converstion" the lets talk about what impacts on peoples lives and what people really voted on - you only had to be at the football the other night to hear the jeering directed at the First Minister to realise that his honeymoon is over. Time to run the country, not spend most of your time trying to realise your childhood dream, if you want to play world politics Alex, get a PC there are plenty of simulation games out there - please now deal with the teachers, nurses, doctors etc
14

oder,

Scotand 28/03/2008 00:32:14
8 Anonym,on three different pages

because if you say it often enough! people will start to believe it!...... Gordy hopes!
15

Hen Mc Stoorie,

Port William 28/03/2008 00:38:28
Looks like AM2 is in Aviemore. Gone to see THE GREAT ONE..NO! NOT G BROON....Jackie Bailie.
16

ptdoug,

28/03/2008 00:39:07
davek

I was at the game... and I cheered.

I heard some (faint) booing... had no idea what it was about. A group somewhere booed about something... could've been anything. Who knows.

It's convenient, and a bit of fun, no more, for Labour to claim it was directed at AS. They wont know, anymore than I do, what the booing was about.

17

Anonym,

:-) 28/03/2008 00:40:34
THE SIX STEPS LABOUR MUST TAKE

1) Wendy must put on a good performance at the conference thingy, completely unlike her performance over the last six months.

2) The Scottish Labour Party must stick the boot into the SNP at every opportunity over the next three years.

3) Gordon Broon must inspire the delegates, especially the ones who've been waiting aboot for ages.

4) The leadership has to get backing for its "renew, reform and reconnect" agenda, and also for its less catchy, "rejuvenate, re-hash, and reiterate" agenda.

5) Labour must set the political agenda... blah blah blah, sorry this is beyond parody now.

6) Get chummy with the councillors, because the party needs help.

7) ehm... that's it!
18

Richardinho,

28/03/2008 00:44:50
More speeches on flashy stage sets.
19

Matt there,

somewhere 28/03/2008 00:46:28
"Mr Brown will also give his strong personal backing to Wendy Alexander..."

That's it then. Poor Wendy may as well get her coat now...
20

The Daleks,

Longmen 28/03/2008 00:52:16
Labour has had a huge chunk of the 20th century and most of the 21st to get things right in Scotland.

Something they very obviously failed to do.

If they think that after a breath of fresh air under the SNP we will once again rally round Broon the Balloon and Wee Wendy Caterpillar, they are sadly deluded.
21

Ard Righ,

The Rock Of Edinburgh 28/03/2008 00:53:12
Labours idea of education? The unionist version.....


Brown. TRAITOR.

Anyone who champions the idea of some foreign power running your affairs from afar is no right in the heid.
22

subrosa,

28/03/2008 00:58:23
'And while Labour got record numbers of young people into higher and further education,'

And even then many weren't equipped for the job market. Just putting youngsters into further education isn't good enough - well it is for labour because it's bums on seats. Doesn't say anything about the quality of the courses some do or if they find work at the end of it.

Enough Mr Brown, be gone with you, back to your establishment in the south.
23

Samoyed,

Costa del Menie 28/03/2008 00:59:16
Hey! ptdoug @ # 10, aren't they Pish to be Sprayed, High(on something)Mighty and AM2(D2)? What a Trinity! The best three assets that AS has to bring independence to Scotland.

Indians 3, Chiefs millions, ( of £, O'course)
24

Jwil,

28/03/2008 00:59:59
Come on the Sunday Herald. Please pull another Labour party scandal out of the hat on Sunday.
25

Sanny,

Portugal 28/03/2008 01:00:00
Sorry Gordon but your predecessor, Teflon Tony, has exhausted the mileage on Education - Education - Education. You've sold all our Gold at a fraction of its worth. During a very strong economic period you have managed to run up the biggest debt in our history and complemented this with additional debts through PFI's and PPP's that will bear down on us for the next thirty years.

Despite all this you still believe that the Scots are too thick to notice! You still believe the voting fodder will continue 'to vote as their da did and his da afore him'. With absolutely no apology I say the the Scots are waking up to the way they have been used and abused. The scales are off our eyes we can see you and the socialist travesty of New Labour for what it is - A LIE!!

26

ratzo,

28/03/2008 01:02:25
The legacy to the the SNP of Brown's educational policy in Scotland, from todays Herald:

"Fewer pupils from deprived backgrounds are going to university in Scotland despite a raft of initiatives to widen participation, according to a new report.

In 2006-07, just 14% of school-leavers from secondaries in the lowest participation areas for higher education went to university compared to 19% in 2002-03."

27

ratzo,

28/03/2008 01:09:32
Likewise:

"One of the aspirations of the government expansion of higher education in the mid-1980s, and then again in 1992, was to allow wider participation, but the main beneficiaries have been the middle classes."

Brown financed the widening social and economic division of Scottish society and was praised to the skies for it by a grovelling Scottish media. Why should anyone be interested now?
28

Sanny,

Portugal 28/03/2008 01:18:33
26 ratzo
What is the point of waiting four years to obtain a worthless degree, from a glorified tech college, that is useless in getting you a job.

These colleges once issued highly respected C&G's; HNC's and HND's. Qualifications that were much sought after by employers. These Cert's and Diploma's were hard won. I know because after I took my HNC in the 50's I found taking my Engineering degree a piece of cake.

Both Tory's and Labour (Old & New) have destroyed what was once the most envied education system in the world.

29

Venachar,

28/03/2008 01:27:40
Sanny

You got it exactly right!

30

Castaway,

28/03/2008 02:31:57
A "Wendy Bounce" in the opinion polls after the conference in Aviemore ?
It would awkward for any Scottish Labour activist to answer questions on the Iraq war, illegal donations, trident, nuclear power stations, cash for honours,why no £5,000 extra tax per Scottish household every year now that the SNP are in power, Northern Rock, no European referendum etc
Labour plans to make its team sign contracts - Scottish Labour election candidates will be regularly checked to see they are meeting party and public expectations, under plans being put to its conference in Aviemore this weekend. Herald - March 28 2008
31

Itchy,

28/03/2008 02:32:58
"He is set to say: "Scotland stands on the brink of unprecedented prosperity"

Translation: "Scotland is on the brink of prosperity so I'd better tax it all away, just like I did with everybody's pensions."

He's also got a bloody cheek to describe anyone as holding Scotland back. What on earth has he done but hold everyone in Britain back with all his tax rises and regulations?
32

MacAlba: The Coming Independence (c2007).,

28/03/2008 03:10:05
This brings to mind a line from a movie that I saw a long time ago - 'Rob Roy', (featuring Liam Neeson and Jessica Lang). The line from that particular production that this grubby little quisling b@stard, Brown brings to mind is when Archibald Cunningham, (played by Tim Roth), said to The Marquis of Montrose, (John Hurt), "desperate words from a desperate man."

Brown-(nose) is desperate, because he sees clearly the success that is being enjoyed by Salmond's government, the unprecedented good that they are doing for Scotland and the axiomatic support that they have from the Scots people.

Read it and weap, Brown - you f(_)cking traitor! You're on the decline while we continue to rise from power to power. The momentum of the SNP, and hence, Scotland, is not diminishing as you and your colleagues would have hoped. This response from Brown-(nose) under the guise of an educational policy platform is nothing more than a knee-jerk response made out of uneasiness, insecurity and the knowledge that he is standing on very rapidly shifting sands.

Get used to it, Brown! (Fabian Socialist trash)!


33

MacAlba: The Coming Independence (c2007).,

28/03/2008 03:25:57
#12 Blueguru,
Six things that New Labour need to do!

1). Disband.

2). Disband.

3). Disband.

4). Disband.

5). Disband.

6). Disband!
34

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 28/03/2008 06:13:00
Putting education at the front, eh? If that happens then SNP will get the skitters. Who will support SNP once the Scots are taught their history fully and properly?

That Scotland is already a nation? That a majority vote carried Scotland into the Union? That all indigenous residents here are Britons, just the same group as in England and Wales, and so on?

The real enemy are those who want to break up this island nation state.
35

pencildick,

the herald 28/03/2008 06:15:49
What this so called newspaper and its so called journalists need to realise is that the electorate are increasingly becoming sick and tired of nu labour.
The Labour party are ROTTEN to the core with corrupt councillors sticking their hands in the tax payers pockets and awarding themselves vast wage increases and claiming huge expenses, some or one in particular negotiating a vast redundancy payment of £150,000 just six weeks or so before he retired with another little nest egg in the region of another £150,000 once he did officially retire.
They have second homes furnished buy the tax payer,
They nave been caught continuously with their fingers in the till at the tax payers expense,
They operate a "jobs for the boys" policy hence Gordon Broons promotion unelected in London ,or Wendy Alexander promotion unelected in Scotland.
They have placemen and yes men in all prominant positions in Scotland to ensure their survival.
However finally at last SCOTLAND is wakening up and seeing nu labour for what they are .

SCOTLAND WAKEN UP AND GET RID OFF THIS PI*SH.
36

Dane Bramage SNP Insider,

SNP HQ 28/03/2008 06:22:47
MacAlba: 32

God help Scotland if it ever falls into the hands of "f(_)cking" scum like you. You are axiomatic of the support that Salmond attracts; fascist creatures with a violent world view. The Scotsman should be complimented for allowing creatures like you the opportunity to expose your vicious natures and agendas. That is the best way to ensure that your unscrupulous agendas are never realised; oily, fascist Salmond's agendas never realised.
Why was an Irishman playing a Scottish character anyway?
37

pencildick,

28/03/2008 06:26:19
no34
We are NO enemy of Scotland


We want Scotland to stand up and be counted

IN every other country in the World it is called national pride

You are a pr*ick
38

steve 1511,

aberdeen 28/03/2008 06:53:37
labour built schools and hospitals on the tick that this and the next generations will pay through the nose for,a party corrupt a every level, of government,labour have squandered this countrys wealth they are like lemmings,the only trouble they have is finding the cliff to go over
39

eric,

Lothian 28/03/2008 07:07:35
Hilarious,Is this the best labour can come up with,If tory party became Pro-scots they would get more votes than labour.
40

Bob Christie,

28/03/2008 07:11:00
Education -mtop of Labour's agenda???

Don't know whether to laugh or cry. Education (x3) has been their mantra for ten years +, and what has changed?
Zilch!
If the Labour Party were to cease its penchant for waging illegal wars then perhaps there would be money to really do something about education.

By still banging on about education after ten years of opportunity (and totally failing) to do something positive Brown, Alexander(s) & co are admitting their governments have been abject failures.

Perhaps Browne will tell us that the Labour Party is going to withdraw from its warring mission in Iraq? Not.
41

Reckless,

lying new labour scum 28/03/2008 07:27:20
Hubris, hubris, hubris.
42

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 28/03/2008 07:35:00
#37 pencildick

Your nom de plume and your bad language further discredit both yourself and the SNP you support.

How about wooing the 85% of us who did NOT support SNP last time round, instead of insulting us?
43

Conan the Librarian™,

28/03/2008 07:42:33
42
Alright then Rules.
Vote SNP.
C'moan.
Please.
You can be the Brythonic wing of the party:-)
44

John S,

28/03/2008 07:50:11
Education spending will continue to increase if the government wins a second term, said the Prime Minister Tony Blair, reiterating his commitment to education as an election priority.Mr Blair promised that his "government's passion" would be "education, education and education. Then, now and in the future." - September, 2000.
April 2007 - Scottish Labour has used its Holyrood election manifesto launch to put education at the heart of its plans for the next parliament.
April 2011 - Scottish Labour has used its Holyrood election manifesto launch to put education at the heart of its plans for the next parliament.
45

Non!!,

East Britain 28/03/2008 07:52:35
"The people's princess" (Blair)
"The peoples party" (Brown)

The wheel has gone full circle. Recycling?
46

NBJT,

North Berwick 28/03/2008 07:52:44
'Peoples Party'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oor Gordon and Wendy just cant give up telling jokes!!!!

Gordon............stop patronising the Scottish people!

You will have to accept that a growing large number of people in Scotland (not all scots) wish to make decisions for themselves and not continue to be pupets for Westminster.

Gordon....I trust you are wearing your England strip again in Aviemore, just as you did a few years ago. On a more serious note this is not advisable in a town like Aviemore!!!
47

Iain fae Elgin,

28/03/2008 07:58:26
"He will contrast that with the SNP's record on investment since taking power last May, claiming it had failed to commission a single new school building."

I'd rather no new schools than the new Academies. And given the treatment of teachers by the new academies, I'm sure they feel the same.
48

NBJT,

North Berwick 28/03/2008 07:59:24
No 42

I believe only 2 out of 20 voters, voted for Labour at the last election!!!

The days are now past when if a monkey was standing as a Labour representitive in some west coast parliamentary seats they would be elected. This at the very least is a major victory for the SNP.

As you are so interested in stats can you tell me exactly how many people in Scotland are members of the Scottish (unionist) Labour party. A percentage will suffice. After all the Labour (unionist) party is so big after all. NOT.
49

Iain fae Elgin,

28/03/2008 07:59:56
#46...."Gordon....I trust you are wearing your England strip again in Aviemore, just as you did a few years ago. On a more serious note this is not advisable in a town like Aviemore!!!"


But I can wear my Scotland strip with impunity down here in London. Sad really.
50

Phil C,

28/03/2008 08:02:46
Guff, guff, guff! Lies, lies, lies!

The sad thing is that lots of 'dyed in the wool' Labour sheep will go to Aviemore this week and fawn over their dopey and corrupt leaders!

The stupid Gordon doesn't even know that the 'Executive' has a new name. The man talks pesh!
51

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 28/03/2008 08:04:59
#34

"Who will support SNP once the Scots are taught their history fully and properly?"

I think if people realize that the Union only came about because the Lairds had all gone Bankrupt over the Darien Adventure and only voted for the act of Union because it promised to compensate their loses.(Article 15 of the Act of Union.)

In addition many received bribes to secure their support. The final vote of 110 to 69 was just another example of politicians putting self interest above public interest. Something that the Labour party has taken to heart.

The treaty itself had to be signed in secret, in the cellar of a building opposite the Tron Church. This was because the citizenry where out raged and on the streets looking for politicians who had voted for this treachory to hang them.

Yes I agree Scots need to know more about their history, I however don't believe it will translate into more unionist support.


52

Saoghal Beag,

28/03/2008 08:05:07
who was it that said "Education, education, education?"
53

bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 28/03/2008 08:05:21
In order to advance the education of all secondary school children, compulsory viewing of the forthcoming Labourtory conference should be advocated.

The true nature of these semi-literate, self-seeking, forelock touching, cringing, scrounging, spiteful, corrupt apologies for human beings should be exposed at every opportunity.

Let the children see them for what they are.
Listen closely as they spout their bile, their hatred, and their jealously of the emerging Scottish nation.

Marvel at the gall of the remnants of the British establishment who will attempt to lay the blame of the failure of fifty years of Labour hegemony to progress the well being of our people on 10 months of Scottish government.

Admire the openness and inclusiveness of a party prepared to debate the issues of illegal wars, WMD, nuclear power, poverty taxation, Northern Rock, ID cards, referenda on the Scottish and EU constitution, cash for honours, dodgy donations, expenses scams,…………………………

Teach the children how to identify those who would impede their progress.

Monkeys with red rosettes.
54

Brian M,

Edinburgh 28/03/2008 08:11:00
they should change their slogan to 'We are the people', it might catch on
55

Carlung,

Haddington 28/03/2008 08:12:48
GORDON BROWN will today try to reclaim the political initiative from the Nationalists by urging Labour's Scottish activists to unite behind the party's plans for education, education, education.

What a brilliant idea! Why didn't Tony Bliar think of that?

Next, Scottish Labour will want to do away with the Council Tax and scrap bridge tolls.

Might even get around to liking the Scottish people.
56

HughB,

Edinburgh 28/03/2008 08:17:46
Labour are always talking about fighting this or that, or fighting the SNP.

They should stop all fighting and move into the present day and start working for Scotland. These people are elected to work for Scotland after all, and not to fight each other.

It's a bit rich coming from the man who destroyed pension schemes, gave billions of Scottish money to a failed English bank, rakes in more and more profits from Scottish oil, and cuts back on the money that Scotland is given back, to say that the SNP are making cuts everywhere. If GB wants the Scottish Government to be able to splash out on more and more projects, then he should either give us a better financial settlement, or give us full autonomy.

Talking about the settlement for Universities in particular, it would be a good idea if GB and WA got knew about the facts: The percentage of the overall budget that the Universities got this year is bigger than at any time under the previous administration. If GB and WA don't understand that, then you really have to question their ability to understand numbers in general.

I don't think WA needs to worry about short term popularity!!! Ha Ha

57

OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 28/03/2008 08:22:54
‘Reform, Renew and Reconnect’ or in WENDY speak:

'Wefom, Wenew and Weconnect'

Welease Wodewick, Wendy.
58

morris,

edinburgh 28/03/2008 08:23:06
Things the Labour Party needs to do.
1) Apologise for betraying Scotland over suppression of the McCrone Report.
2) Apologise for replacing it with a pack of lies and deception.(Albania etc)
3)Apologise for claiming to be a left of centre party when in fact the poverty gap has widened,and government taxation policy (removal of the 10p band for a start) is responsible.
4) Resurrect the Scottish Justice System and prosecute WENDY same as everybody else would be.
5)Devolve within their own party and allow genuine decision making by their Scottish leader who is just a Muppet controlled by Westmonster.
6) Apologise for trying to use Devolution Mk II to remove the powers of the Scottish parliament to oppose nuclear installations in Scotland.
7) Resign from the corrupt Labour Party which no longer serves anybody except the gravy train passengers.
8) Waken up and realise that there is NO LABOUR PARTY!It was replaced by a watered down Tory party called NEW LABOUR,(and if you cannot differentiate between the two then apologise for being THICK AS MINCE)
That is what anybody with any integrity would do!
That is not what anything in the Labour Party will do !
Not fit for purpose.
Not fit for opposition.
LIARS AND WARMONGERS the lot. Blair was NOT ALONE !
59

Jay Kay,

28/03/2008 08:24:05
Is there anyone barring AM2 and his various disguises that actually listens to a word this criminal says anymore.

Roll on Independance so we can get shot of Westmonster and start to take Scotland forward as an Independant nation.
60

brownlie,

glasgow 28/03/2008 08:25:32
36 Dane

"axiomatic of the support that Salmond attracts; fascist creatures with a violent world view" - Salmond has consistently and coherently opposed war and, in particular, illegal wars. Gordon Brown, on the other hand, had used your tax money, and mine, to foster the murder and maiming of innocent Iragis. This will be a "don't mention the war" conference in the vain hope that the electorate will forgive and/or forget. Well, we will not forget and, sadly and tragically, the Iraqi people can not forget. Can I suggest to you that you find out what fascism is all about before you use words that you clearly do not understand. Your charmless and nonsenical contribution illustrates that you are obviously a product of the excellent Labour party's education system.
61

Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 28/03/2008 08:30:12
Before the May election we were told that if an SNP government was elected it would cost us £3,000 per head.
We got that from Gordon and Alistair in the bail out of Northern Rock.
We have also had the smallest increase in the Scottish block grant since devolution so maybe Gordon should not get all that enthusiastic about knocking the SNP.
We've seen more action and an incredible devolution of authority to local level with the ending of ring fencing.
Soon local authorities will begin to deliver services instead of spending pre-allocated money. The transition will take some time but is worth waiting on.
62

OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 28/03/2008 08:35:02
Former Labour Minister has put the boot into the WENDY's Review/Commision/Spoiler saying she was following a "nationalist agenda" and that "the beneficiaries will be the nationalists". He further says "I'd rather have a referendum"!


Three minutes in.

http://www.stv.tv/content/news/Politics_new/
63

Florence,

Edinburgh 28/03/2008 08:35:29
"Gordon Brown will today try to reclaim the initiative from the Nationalists" and he will be given every assistance by The Scotman, The Herald, The Daily Mail etc., and the Labour Broadcasting Corporation,Glenn Campbell, Brian Taylor, Gordon Brewer et al. No shortage of media friends has Scottish Labour.
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OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 28/03/2008 08:36:22
#62 Sorry that should read Former Labour Minister Brian "They keep on making the same mistakes" Wilson.
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John S,

28/03/2008 08:42:01
Much of the agenda will focus on Ms Alexander's three key themes of "reform, reconnect and renew"
We will reform education,reconnect with education and renew our education comment.
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Colin Allcars,

Fettes Avenue 28/03/2008 08:45:32
First let me say that, I did not vote for the SNP last May as I assumed that they would be the same as the others - a waste of space!

That said, they are doing a good job. Some things I do not like but what I do like is that they seem to be working for Scotland. A first in a devolved set up.

Wendy Alexander heads a branch of a London party that has had 50 years of almost uninterrupted rule in Scotland and managed to do sweet FA to make people's living standards match those in comparable parts of Europe - this despite them claiming that they received more than their fair share of money from London via the Barnett Formula. She is in no place to tell anyone about how bad the SNP or any other party is doing. Physician, heal thyself, Wendy!

As for Gordon Brown, a man who has had 11 bloody years to introduce real social justice - 10 of those years being the most prosperous for the Treasury in living times - and yet he betrayed the people for the sake of getting the job of Prime Minister so that he could do what?

Gordon Brown is a pathetic man who will one day many years from now sit back with a tear in his eye as he reflects on how he sold out to get the top job and in the process achieved absolutely nothing!

They really are a sad bunch of human beings. The worst kind!
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John S,

28/03/2008 08:46:14
#65 - should be comment = commitment
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JimC,

Kilmarnock 28/03/2008 08:46:59
Scotland stands on the brink of unprecedented prosperity – Heard that one 10 years ago, same old spin and rose tinted glasses. As for Elgin High or Dumbarton Academy – Well you did choose a new tram system instead. Then he talks about the “people's party” does he mean like the people's party in China? Regarding Des Browne, the Scottish Secretary, closing the conference with a speech on Sunday. I personally look forward to the next election here in Killie where we will close Des Browne.
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puskas,

East kilbride 28/03/2008 08:51:06
No 60.

Spot on.

No36 Dane is just another NuLiebour Education, Education, Education failure.

Oh! it shows. A good dictionary being available before No36 posts such rubbish might be helpfull. Maybe not?.


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jj veritas,

28/03/2008 08:52:07
I'll bet Brown doesn't say judge me by my education record over 10 years. I know many employers who simply will not offer jobs to much of the output of our schools and universities.


And we aren't fooled by a few new brick buildings called schools. These have done nothing to improve teaching. On the contrary the high debt to fund these has ruined the value of the £ for many years to come, consequently the economy will be in a worse position to address Labour failures in education.
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DaveK,

Education 28/03/2008 08:55:45
I wonder if all those parents who are facing the closure of their nurseries were thankful to Alex when they met him that he could offer little more than a quick shift of blame to the Lib dems - aye, what next, out of the union and then when the standard of living drops dramatically - which it will, blame everyone else. Perhaps he has done a deal with Trump for funding, or just asked the Iranians for cash for compliments. I can't wait for Mugabe to be appointed the last last king of Scotland under the SNP.
I wish I had two jobs that paid a fortune to do nothing, I would have no problem giving up a salary for one, if I knew I had a massive expense account instead. A little hypocritical relying so heavily on Westminster when you are trying to be autonomous - not exactly leading by example.
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Calum Crubag,

28/03/2008 08:56:33
Brown's idea of education is forcing Scottish kids to salute the Union Jack and sing God Save the Queen. Like a kind of 'Labour Jugend'.

This will, like the poll tax, be a huge vote winner for these sad right-wing Brit Nats.
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OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 28/03/2008 08:57:06
#66 Well said Colin.

I think your comments represent the huge numbers in the country who are quite simply hacked off with the Labour Party and the increasingly compliant BBC who seem hell bent on keeping them in power.

The fact that the SNP, despite a minority administration have managed to place key components of their positive manifesto hopes into place via consensus politics will only help to increase their votes at the subsequent by-elections and next Scottish and General elections.
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puskas,

East kilbride 28/03/2008 08:57:13
No68,

Not just 10 years ago Jim. we have heard this same rhetoric for generations.

Hopefully you get your wish regards that other imposter Des Browne. Very high on the list must be Brown and hopefully the Fifers do the needful with this renegade to his people.
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puskas,

East kilbride 28/03/2008 08:59:54
No73,

I agree.
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westview,

singing in the rain 28/03/2008 09:03:35
Brown ,the pension plunderer, would do better in education if he first of all taught weird Wendy to stop slagging off the proposed 1-2-3 choises referendum voting system. That is the system my Labour suporting trade union uses to elect its leaders.
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Chris.J,

Edinburgh 28/03/2008 09:08:38
Is it just me, or does anyone else find Gordon Brown's insistence that Scottish Labour focus on Education just a wee bit patronising and possibly an insight into the role he sees for devolved government: ie stick to the parochial issues in yer wee parly building and leave the important stuff to us big Westminster boys. Remember how he also forced "educashun" on Jack McConnell as the primary issue for last year's election?

Now I'm not belittling the needs of education, but if we cooly and rationally think about it is the rebuilding or schools for the sake of rebuilding of schools really our number one priority as a nation? I contend not - we already have an excellent education system that stands head and shoulders above England. However, we do have other problems; areas in Glasgow that have third world life expectancies, structural issues in attracting inward investment, a deadly serious problem of violence and drink in some estates, a weakened NHS left behind by Labour, important strategic questions to ask about the effect of the common fisheries and agriculture policy on Scotland, renewable energy.... the list is not just confined to education. And yes, some of those problem areas do need Scotland to stand up at a European and international level.

And we won't even get started on picking out the smoke and mirrors tactics in Brown's wee rant - his love of PFI in school's programmes to burden the nation with expensive debt, the inflexibility and expense in the "outsourcing" arrangements that underpin his plans and his tokenistic rebuilding of perfectly good schools just cos new labour loves modern almost as much as it loves selling playing fields to developers..

No, individual school building projects are the remit of councils, not national parliaments. Brown knows this and the subtext of this speech is very much "don't get above yourselves" to both Scotland and Scottish Labour. The irony is that we all know Scottish Labour has a great many nationalists wit
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Mr Scotland,

28/03/2008 09:08:50
Anyone notice AM2 is silent? could it be after his disgraceful anti islam rant here http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Minority-vote-could-take-Scotland.3918206.jp?CommentPage=1&CommentPageLength=1000#2646851

and then he attempted to excuse the rant as the doings of someone else.

Nuts
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Chris.J,

Edinburgh 28/03/2008 09:10:23
..... The irony is that we all know Scottish Labour has a great many nationalists within its ranks - and I would argue that in an independent Scotland the party could flourish. Its just that Ma Broon would be out of a Westminster job along with the rest of the west coast mafia - and from where I'm sitting that's all that he cares about.

He's also showing how inept he is at setting the campaign agenda. Prattling on about schools (again) is uninspiring and is just a crude "kidney machine gambit" (as Sir Humphrey called it): If all else fails try to play sentimental politics in the hope that voters don't realise how incompetent your government actually is.
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11+failed,

28/03/2008 09:11:54
The SNP are not Labour's only problem in Scotland. Here and more generally the attitude is increasingly, anything but Labour. Reminiscent of the last days of the Major government.
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qohldr,

28/03/2008 09:15:31
It has been insinuated by the nats on here that the type of people who have supported Labour in Scotland are the equivalent of lowest of the low (and that is me being polite) for a long time now.
They are certainly not the type (if what they have been called is true) that any organization would want to admit they had anything to do with.
Yet these are the type that #10 declares openly have started supporting the SNP.
Doesn't say much for the nats if they are ready to welcome with open arms into their ranks the very type of people they insist Labour supporters are.
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The Strategist,

28/03/2008 09:17:38
Next week corporation tax for small companies in Scotland goes up. It will affect well over 90% of all Scottish companies.

Thanks Gordon.

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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 28/03/2008 09:19:09
#43 Conan

You tempter, you! Problem is that so many SNP supporters are, if posters are typical, unpleasant people. I've no wish to ally myself with foul-mouthed extremists.

The fact is that a united Britain is our shared history. A murderer by the name of Robert of Bruges (a foreigner admittedly) murdered his friend Comyn (another foreigner) and then claimed to be king of Scotland! No voting there!

The Union merely returned matters to where they had been for ten thousand years: collaborating nations. Sadly the SNP, blinded by emotion and ignorance, can't see that.
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John south of Soutra,

28/03/2008 09:19:14
Interesting comment about Trump, Dave especially considering that it wee Jack who rushed over to the states to court him for this project initially, but that was ok as it would be if labour had held onto to power, then it would have been great investment for Scotland. As for yuor comments about Iran & Mugabe most poeple will just dismiss those as rantings because no-one is unnder any illusions that Salmond wants anything to do with them.
It's also a bit rich that a labour supporter should mention expense accounts, whose expenses is Michael Martin trying to stop from being published, oh I know Tony Blair and Gordon Brown
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jdships,

28/03/2008 09:19:43
66 Colin Allcars,

Like you I did not vote SNP but accepted the democratic process and was happy to give them four years to prove their worth.
To be honest I have been pleasantly surprised with the way things are progressing although I still stick to my original thought "give it four years"
One thing I would lioke to happen is AS resigning as an MP . Cannot see how he can give two important jobs his full undeveided attention .
As to the "Peoples Party" !
Brown is surely "havin' a laff"
He/Wendy/They are unelectable given their track record over at least the last three years ( at leas).
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donald,

glasgow 28/03/2008 09:22:10
Hammy and Ross should be put out to grass with their beloved Labour numpties.
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Number 6,

Germany 28/03/2008 09:22:40
BROWN, YOU ARE A SICK JOKE. UNDER YOUR USELESS PARTY
EDUCATION IN THE UK HAS BEEN REDUCED TO ASHES.
CHILDREN LEAVING SCHOOL BARELY ABLE TO READ OR COUNT
BECAUSE OF THE STUPID POLITICALLY CORRECT METHODS INTRODUCED BY YOUR HOPLESS PARTY. EXAMS REDUCED TO A PATHETIC JOKE IN ORDER TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION OF IMPROVING RESULTS. THE NO WINNERS NO LOSERS ENVIROMENT
YOU HAVE FOSTERED HAS DONE UNTOLD DAMAGE TO AMBITION
AND LEADERSHIP THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.

WE ALL REMEMBER YOUR PATHETIC MANTRA :

EDUCATION EDUCATION EDUCATION, AND JUST LOOK WHAT YOU
HAVE DONE TO IT IN THIS COUNTRY. KEEP SPEWING OUT YOUR
USELESS PC POLICIES IN ENGLANDSHIRE, THEY DON'T SEEM TO MIND, BUT KEEP YOUR GRUBBY HANDS AWAY FROM SCOTLAND, WE
WILL LOOK AFTER OUR OWN CHILDREN'S FUTURE THANKYOU, NOT
LEAVE IT FOR YOU AND YOUR MOB TO RUIN.
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The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

28/03/2008 09:23:46
#84 I have to agree - some of the posts here have to be the most bitter twisted crap ever.

An dyou are right about the history - some Nats need a lesson.

It's not the English whop have shafted the Scots.

It's the ruling classes, nobles and royalty who have shafted the working man for countless years both in Scotland and England. The Scottish nobility have only ever rallied to the nationalist cause if theer were something in it for themselves.
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Alastair the First,

28/03/2008 09:24:02
Labour has had 50 years to sort out education and they failed miserably. Why on earth should they get another chance?

I suspect their conference will have a lot of empty seats at it.
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The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

28/03/2008 09:25:10
#85 I don't agree with McConnell's actions over Trump either. This brown-nosing by our politcians wants to make me puke.
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OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 28/03/2008 09:26:30
#68 JimC

"I personally look forward to the next election here in Killie where we will close Des Browne."

Join your local branch and get out and knock the doors in New Farm Loch, Bellfield, Riccarton etcetera. You're up against decades of, "Ma da voted for thems".

Last time I was in Killie it was looking chuffing awful, The Kings Theatre just looked derelict. I remember campaigning 20 years ago to stop the then Labour cooncil destroy the beautiful Walker Buildings on what is now probably the Morrisons/Tescos site. We invaded council chambers off John Finnie street and the council brought in the cops to drag us out of the public forum!
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Number 6,

GERMANY 28/03/2008 09:30:31