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Published Date: 08 June 2009
GORDON Brown sent a defiant message yesterday that he would not capitulate to the clamour for him to go – saying the British public would not forgive him for turning his back on the country in difficult times.
In a speech to party faithful in London, the Prime Minister issued a coded warning that there would have to be a general election if he was replaced by a new leader now.

"What would they (the public] think of us if ever we walked away from them a
t a time of need? We are sticking with them," he said. His warning came hours after Lord Falconer, the former Lord Chancellor, said it was time for a change of leader.

Meanwhile, Lord Mandelson, who is now effectively propping up Mr Brown as a de facto deputy prime minister, called on rebels to "stop taking shots" at the Prime Minister. They now privately concede that without the support of key Cabinet ministers – and with Labour MPs fearing a Conservative landslide that an autumn election could bring if it was triggered by a change of leader now – it is difficult to oust the Prime Minister.

In the face of a further election drubbing, they still plan to confront Mr Brown at a meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party meeting tonight.

The plotters are threatening to revive their plans for a coup in the autumn, which would allow a new leader to hold off calling an election until next May.

Lord Falconer, a former flatmate of Tony Blair, yesterday issued a rallying cry to disgruntled MPs and Labour Party members. "I think we are moving moderately quickly towards the need for a change, and that change may be a change in leadership," he said.

"We need unity above all. Can we get unity under the current leadership? I am not sure that we can and we need to debate it urgently, and I think probably it will need a change in leader."

Hours after Lord Falconer issued his call for change, Mr Brown was being well received at the largely stage-managed London event with Labour Party activists. He sprinkled his speech with jokes, telling the audience that his wife, Sarah, was not there, but that she fortunately had "not resigned".

Mr Brown, stung by charges from the former Europe minister, Caroline Flint, that he was sexist, started by praising Ms Harman for bringing in the equalities bill. He then took questions from the hand-picked audience. The event was designed to send a stern warning to plotters that he was resilient in the face of criticism and could rally party activists behind him.

Tessa Jowell, who held on to her Olympics role and took over as minister for the Cabinet Office in the reshuffle, also broke cover yesterday to suggest the Prime Minister could stand aside if it were for the good of the party.

Asked if Mr Brown would resign if his senior colleagues told him it was time to go, Ms Jowell said: "Gordon Brown loves the Labour Party; he is Labour through and through.

"If Gordon Brown were to reach a conclusion that he personally was an obstacle to Labour's recovery and achievement, then of course."

Her admission came as details emerged of an e-mail sent by Lord Mandelson to Derek Draper, his former researcher and spin doctor, describing Mr Brown's character.

Lord Mandelson, then the EU trade commissioner, had summarised Mr Brown as "insecure, self-conscious … and angry". The message had been sent before Lord Mandelson returned to government and ended the feud with Mr Brown that lasted more than a decade.

In the e-mail, sent in January last year, Lord Mandelson also complained that none of Mr Brown's advisers had spelled out his defects to him, or told him how to put them right.

Yesterday, he dismissed the e-mail, saying it had been written more than a year ago.

He also played down the prospects of a change of leader, saying: "It would require somebody to stand against (Mr Brown], somebody who is raising their standard and saying that they could do a better job, and we don't have that person."

He told the rebels they faced the prospect of an immediate general election if Mr Brown went: "If we were to have a third leader in a single parliament it would mean irresistible pressure to hold a general election."

Mr Brown's potential challenger, Alan Johnson, the new Home Secretary, said: "I don't agree that regicide gives you a unified party."





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1

Stephen Maturin,

, HMS Surprise at sea , 08/06/2009 01:27:21
Gordon Brown said: "The electorate will never forgive me, even though I resigned." LOL

Saor Alba, Erin agus Catalonia!
2

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08/06/2009 01:30:03
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3

Alan B,

08/06/2009 01:34:30
Brown is an ego maniac.

The public will not forgive him for:
1)not holding an election after becoming pm
2)ruining the economy
3)dithering over corruption within labour party and not publishing expenses but supporting martin trying to hide the corruption.
4

Alan B,

08/06/2009 01:55:17
#4 lol
5

MadJockMacMad,

Edinburgh 08/06/2009 01:56:04
And this man says he is not arrogant?
6

Stephen Maturin,

, HMS Surprise at sea , 08/06/2009 02:08:59
#6 Love the moniker, made me laugh, Blackadder is a work of genius. I hear that Broon is considering making his acting debut in the next series as
Wee Jock Poo Plop McPlop.

Saor Alba
7

Wisnaeme,

08/06/2009 02:17:26
.


Jist wan wurd wull dae tae describe ra eeejit.


.... Delusional.

Ah sincerely hope he's taking something for his condition.

Like a walk away from it all, for instance.

.
8

Evia,

08/06/2009 02:33:01
How big is this monster's head? He spews out more verbal manure than has been spewed out by any other politician that I can remember. His education is seriously lacking because he doesn't understand a simple sentence that says "Please go, Gordon." All Gordon understands is money flowing into his own pocket i.e. the £millions he earned through ratifying the Lisbon Treaty that will give the EU total control over this once proud country. Not only does Brown think this is good for us but Salmond also thinks it's good to be in the EU.

I know very few people who want to be in the EU and yet Brown refused us the promised referendum and that is why many of the voters turned from Labour. It was not just about the expenses scandal, it was about what it is costing us to be in the EU and yet have very little say in what happens to us. The MEPs in the EU and the MPs here have not read the Lisbon Treaty and just vote the way they are told, on this and other matters, unless they have the guts to vote for what they believe in. The majority of the British people have no idea of what the Lisbon Treaty is about but, still, many just complain about what it costs us. If only they had made the effort to become clued up on what it stands for, I am sure many would have voted differently. Wait until the whole horrendous reality kicks in and they will wonder what has happened to them.

Gordon Brown, Britain's weapon of mass destruction.
9

redcliffe62,

08/06/2009 02:33:29
21% all up for labour including greater glasgow. the game is up.
the total votes for labour outside benefit city as a percentage will be well below 20%.
roll on the next election.
10

donald,

glasgow 08/06/2009 03:52:35
Brown: 'Britain wouldn't forgive me if I resigned'

Scotland would not forgive him if he doesn't.
11

steve 1511,

aberdeen 08/06/2009 05:39:45
straight jacket for broon the man is a loon
12

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 08/06/2009 06:22:33
It's starting to look like some sad parody of the film Downfall, about the last days of Hitler.

As things get worse, Mandelson surrounds him with an ever dwindling circle of sycophants.

This helps feed his delusions of a comeback.

I can imagine Brown in Downing Street hunched over a big map of the UK moving pieces round the board planning his counter attack only to be told "Sorry my Fuhrer but he has already resigned" or "He has already been deselected".
13

McNasty,

Edinburgh 08/06/2009 07:18:51
Gorgon Broon is Psycho. All he needs is a toothbrush moustache and comb his hair in the right direction and there would be little difference between him and Adolf.

But, he should stay. It is great fun watching the liar party rip its poisonous guts out in full public view. Soon they will all end up in a hell of their own making.
14

Phil C,

08/06/2009 07:29:06
Don't be too hard on Gordon. He's no' very weel! Just as well he has Mandy, that tower of honesty and honour, to help him.

Britain won't forgive Brown if he slips out the back door without facing a general election. That election needs to be now, but Labour are playing for time.
15

Jimmy Le Pie,

08/06/2009 07:32:00
Sad thing is I think Comrade Broon actually believes his own spin??

A bit like Paddy O'Poison, Lard Foolkes and Rufus.

Everyone of them demented, deluded and deranged!!!!!!!!!


WELL DONE SNP
16

David Chapman,

Aberdeen 08/06/2009 07:34:55
#12 - don't be so provincial. Nobody's going to forgive Brown whether he resigns or not.
17

alanh,

08/06/2009 08:01:59
"What would they (the public] think of us if ever we walked away from them at a time of need?"

I think the answer most people would come up with would be "thank goodness you'v gone". Its a bit like those uninvited relatives that wont leave after a party.
As was said last night......JUST GO GORDON GO
18

Boy Wonder,

08/06/2009 08:12:59
Brown: 'Britain wouldn't forgive me if I resigned'

Well Gordy ... you got THAT wrong as well!!!
19

C. Mantic,

Edinburgh 08/06/2009 08:15:12
All I hear from the pundits is about the timing of a general election, and how it would affect Labour’s prospects of a win. That seems to me to indicate that GB is having to listen to a range of sycophantic underlings and advisers anxious to try and maintain the status quo, i.e. considering their own good and not the good of the country.

GB would appear more statesmanlike if he called an early general election and let the public have their say. Isn’t that what democracy is all about? I bet Vlad the Impaler didn’t listen to a number of polls and advisers before action.
20

paulr,

edinburgh 08/06/2009 08:25:04
"Ms Jowell said: Gordon Brown loves the Labour Party; "If Gordon Brown were to reach a conclusion that he personally was an obstacle to Labour's recovery and achievement, then of course."
Ms Jowell is also delusional, gordon browns ego is so huge and his arrogance limitless that the only way he will leave no10 is dragged out kicking and screaming!!
21

gus1940,

Edinburgh 08/06/2009 08:36:44
Listening to the utterances of Brown over the last few days it would appear that he is so deluded as to imagine that people will actually think that his staying in office is an act of personal sacrifice.

All he is interested in is power and the retention of it.

It cannot be long now until a van containing men in white coats will drive up to No. 10 and enter carrying a straitjacket.

In the meantime I hope he is being kept well away from the nuclear button in case he does an Adolph. I think the political media should be listening out for the strains of Wagner coming from No. 10.
22

Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 08/06/2009 08:44:22
What is Broon's alternative? Carry on being an MP in Fife?

Wouldn't that be the ultimat humiliation for him? After all, last time I looked, Fife was in Scotland but Broon hails fae "North Britian".

Basically, he'd no longer be a player, just a son o the manse loon fae Fife so no wonder he's hanging on to the bitter end.
23

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 08/06/2009 09:01:04
Quite a number of observations on here about Brown's mental state characterised by delusions of power and influence and immense hubris, disregard for the feelings of others (D-day, Queen?) and the overwhelming need for personal approval.

If you had a plumber to repair a leak and the leak was just getting worse despite his best efforts, you would not wear "just getting on with the job". You could certainly forgive him for walking away from the job so that you could quickly get someone competent to reinstate your plumbing confidence!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
may shed some light.
24

Marian,

08/06/2009 09:23:12
Quote from Guido Fawkes blog:-

"Nick Griffin (BNP) will be thanking Gordon Brown tonight. He could not have done it without him. Brown has achieved one policy goal, he got a British job for one British worker, the British National Party candidate who is going to Brussels. Labour MPs should reflect on that, do they fear losing their jobs in an election more than they loathe the BNP. As long as they keep a Scot who can’t connect with English working class voters as leader, the stronger the BNP becomes."
25

Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 08/06/2009 09:26:46
The BNP MEP post is the only post where the MEP is literally trying to work himself out of a job!
26

Tartan Viking,

08/06/2009 09:29:25
"Brown: 'Britain wouldn't forgive me if I resigned'"

Big headed clown.

Get out now. You and Bliar before you have ruined this country.

Go now man.
27

Canny Mann,

The Kingdom 08/06/2009 09:52:15
#14 Kampung Highlander.
It's starting to look like some sad parody of the film Downfall, about the last days of Hitler.

I too see the similarities you mention.
I too would like to quote from a political programme from saturday night.
"MPs fiddled while Gordon Brown burned.".

In 1997 when 'Teflon Tony and Comrade Brown' lead "New Labour" to power in a landslide General Election win. The electorate were told, New Labour were tied in to the tory spending for the first few years.
This would suggest that New Labour have in 10 years smashed the UK into the ground, raised taxes, raided the pensions, took britain to war illegaly twice, presided over the expenses scandal, Mandelsons in-out-in-out-in to the cabinet, matrimonial infadelity, affairs, Scantily clad ladies being photographed around the HoC on rememrance day, and the Economic Disaster (a child born today will be in its late 20s by the time this new debt is payed off).

The UK require Gordon to resign from his office, as at the moment there is no way other than at the ballot box that the people can fire him.

Possibly if Brown didnt do an "Admiral Nelson" taking the telescope from the blind eye, he may just be able to see the writting on the wall.

Vote SNP, It is time.

Alba gu brath...

28

Queen D,

08/06/2009 09:55:42
Forgiven you already!
Now for goodness sake go and take the rest with you!
29

Mallory,

Edinburgh 08/06/2009 09:57:28
What is Broon's alternative? Carry on being an MP in Fife?

No.

Brown will probably expect, and get, either a seat in the HOL or an opportunity to create further chaos at the European Commission, as he stuffs his pockets like Kinnock. If all else fails there might be an opening as Speaker at Holyrood.

The way the political class look after their own puts ex-bankers to shame.
30

Number 6,

Germany 08/06/2009 10:12:50
Is it possible to be more delusional ?.

Surely we now have cast iron grounds for removing this wretch under the Mental Health Act .
31

AJ Fife,

08/06/2009 10:14:37
After all this, Broon will be sectioned. He's demonstrating all the signs of delusional disorder!
32

The Scotchman,

08/06/2009 10:14:40
Go!
33

AJ Fife,

08/06/2009 10:15:31
Number 6,

Wow, that was a bit spooky! :)
34

hoblar,

08/06/2009 10:21:06
Not only would Brown be forgiven for resigning, but he'd get a latte and a tunnocks tea cake (or even two) if he took the rest of 'new' labour with him.
35

Flabskin,

08/06/2009 10:28:45
"Britain wouldn't forgive me if I resigned..."

15% of the vote, on a 35% turnout, represents the support of only just over 5% of the eligible electorate of 40 million people.

How low can you go, Gogo?
36

Alec M,

Falkirk 08/06/2009 10:48:25
Re the comparisons of Broon with Hitler (above), I watched enough of him on TV on Saturday to notice that when he folded his arms and stuck out his chins he could pass as a Mussolini impersonator.

Frightening ... or what??
37

Arfur,

08/06/2009 10:48:57
"What would they (the public] think of us if ever we walked away from them aADVERTISEMENTt a time of need?" - Thank F**k they are gone.

"Britain wouldn't forgive me if I resigned" - we forgive you now s0d off.
38

For Scotlands Future,

08/06/2009 10:56:37
"David Martin, Labour's lead candidate in Scotland, conceded a bad night for his party. He said: "It's a disappointing night for Labour but if we can take any comfort, it is the fact that our initial analysis suggests that the Labour vote stayed at home, as opposed to coming out and voting against us"

That's one hell of a strategy Labour has.

Still, to the Labour voters in Fife. When Maggie Brown comes up to thank you for the support, and stand a round the pub as he usually does. Ask him if he's going to claim it back on expenses. If he is, make sure you get two drinks, because that the most you'll see of Scotland's Oil money until we become Independent.
39

David55,

08/06/2009 11:02:34
He waited 10 years to get the PM gig, there's no danger he is going to up sticks and leave of his own accord. The only reason he'll be leaving is if his party get rid or of him or if he tries to force through an unpopular policy and people riot. ID cards springs to mind.
40

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 08/06/2009 11:11:22
Fife still votes for Labour.

Well that's the best argument yet I've heard for NOT building another bridge, and putting the toll up to a hundred pounds.
41

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 08/06/2009 11:24:33
This is what happens when you surround yourselves with "yes-men". It has been illustrated throughout history. You become dillusional and believe that only you have the answers to solve all the problems, and if anyone else were in power it would be a disaster for the nation. You are the saviour of the nation and the people love you.

The reaction of the rest of the Labour Party should be noted and remembered. No one will stand up against him, because they all are looking to their future positions in the Party.

History has also shown that the one who puts the knife in never goes far.
42

Number 6,

Germany 08/06/2009 11:42:29
#36 AJ Fife:

For the sake of the country, it should be considered.

Were not the only ones who think he is now clinically insane.
43

Starkravingsane,

Edinburgh 08/06/2009 11:58:41
Britain WOULD pay him to go.
Oh, there I'm forgetting the expenses row and the relocation fees.
Britain WILL pay him to go, irrespective of how long it takes for him to do that.
44

Starkravingsane,

Edinburgh 08/06/2009 12:00:23
#42
Brits don't riot. We moan and complain and then don't vote to do anything about it.
That's why we're not taken seriously by our 'political elite'.
45

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 08/06/2009 12:31:47
Oh no Gordon! Don't whatever you do resign. You are doing an excellent job of pursuading some of the plebs in this country to vote for a party that has at least a sporting chance of being able to run it.

Don't whatever you do, go until well after the next election!
46

ebbi,

spain 08/06/2009 12:50:14
i honestly and sincerely would forgive you. please resign now.
47

bluehead,

edinburgh 08/06/2009 12:57:30
the British public would forgive Brown if he resigned ,
in fact they would be delighted to be rid of a useless prime minister,and an even worse cabinet in the following election,
brown and his mob have been a disaster from the word go,
this labour goverment has done more damage to this country with pen and paper than Hitler did with bombs and bullets,
the smaller parties should be brought more into things ,
for it must be obvious to all and sundry that the labour are hopeless and the Tories would be just as bad,with them ,all you would get is a change of accent
to brown I say ,please feel free to resign,i can assure him most people would be delighted
48

IainGlasgow,

08/06/2009 13:58:55
He really is delusional then. Never mind the PLP ousting him, it ought to be men in white coats.
49

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 08/06/2009 14:56:23
My god, he truly is delusional !
50

Kate,

Zurich 08/06/2009 14:58:27
totally blinkered comment from our "beloved leader"! What's also very funny in a sad way, is that he complains that Alistair Darling can't run the economy properly... Darling took over Brown's own job and is trying to clear up Brown's own messes! Pots and very black kettles...
51

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 08/06/2009 15:22:02
Actually, Brown is right. I would never forgive him if he left now. He has done such sterling work for the SNP.
52

Jason Scorne,

08/06/2009 15:29:35
"the British public would not forgive him for turning his back on the country in difficult times."

So that's why we voted his party down to its worst electoral defeat for 50 years - so he could arrogantly ignore the result and continue wrecking our economy. Robert Mugabe would be proud of him.

Our only hope now is that the New Iraqi Army will invade the UK and restore democracy...
53

IainGlasgow,

08/06/2009 15:58:27
#54

Ever since March 2007 there have been rumours of a very high profile defection of an MP from Labour to the SNP. Such a defector could probably do more damage to the Labour party from within rather than giving the SNP an extra MP.

Maybe it is just rumour but if it was me undermining the Labour party from within then Gordon Brown has done a better job of destroying Labour than any plan I could concoct.
54

Iainbroch,

08/06/2009 16:00:43
Is someone in 10 Downing street slipping Broonie Hallucinogenics in his tea?
55

sicasapig,

turra 08/06/2009 16:22:21
personally i can not see why any scot would want brown to go.he is the best thing that ever happend for the snp and scotland.the man should be be rewarded for breaking up the union
something nobody else has been able to do,a statue should be erected to him as a scottish hero the man who gave scotland back to the scots
56

Reekin' Lum,

08/06/2009 16:29:31
#54-so right. The North Britisher has become so anglicized it's like watching Richard III all over again. Olivier's death throes were nothing compared to this.
And ,yet, it would indeed be preferable that he remains since he is doing much good to SNP. He has been quite an ally. Therefore, everything must be done to keep him in.

57

Jimmy Le Pie,

08/06/2009 16:49:19
I just wish to take the opportunity, on these boards to wish Our Dear Leader, Comrade Broon, every success at his meeting of the PLP.

We owe it to Our Dear Leader to support him in his courageous duty to save the world and abolish boom and bust (again).

His leadership(along with Comrade Gray) have shattered the SNP into also rans, winning everything in sight!

So I wish Our Dear Leader all the best and hope he continues to lead the Sleaze Party to glory.

Onwards the onion!!!
58

Jimmy Le Pie,

08/06/2009 17:00:36
I see the rebels are still whining,

From The Mail,

"Gordon Brown was today branded 'inept' by a Labour backbencher and his allies accused of bullying rebels just hours before the Prime Minister faced a showdown with his party's MPs.

Former minister Frank Field declared the European election results 'pitiful' and warned the party had no hope of winning another term under the current leader.

And although he admitted he was not a fan of Mr Brown, he said even he had not expected him to be quite so bad at leading the country when he took over in 2007."

Sack him Comrade Broon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








59

Herry Oaksters,

08/06/2009 18:50:31
Brown: 'Britain wouldn't forgive me if I resigned'.
The words of a raving nutter.
Just go Gordon.
60

Vivas,

Edinburgh 08/06/2009 19:51:43
Gary Gibbon from Channel4 News, reporting that in the PLP meeting, Lord Kinnock compared Brown to a prophet misunderstood in his own land...

LMFAO !
61

Alex the wandering flanker,

Perth 08/06/2009 20:24:02
we're not going to forgive you ever.
62

Iainbroch,

08/06/2009 21:15:46
You are forgiven! Now pull the trigger and put an end to it!
63

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 08/06/2009 22:53:37
Tony Blair better have a word with Naggie Broon about the doctrine of infallibility, what with him declaring himself to be fallible.

Now, he never did say that he makes mistakes: "I have my strengths and I have my weaknesses. I know there are some things I do well, some things not so well. I've learned that you need to keep learning all the time."

What a load of tripe. And guess what, most of the idiot Labour MP's didn't have the balls to go against him.

And these are the type of people that the West of Scotland and Fife keep voting for.
64

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 08/06/2009 22:55:43
Good sub-Headline in the Telegraph.

"The weakness of Gordon Brown and his government is only surpassed by the weakness of those who seek to oust him"
65

Steve A.,

08/06/2009 23:28:44
Just discovered that 1000 is the maximum of printable posts on the threads ! see labour trounced by SNP thread !


:o)

Not a lot of people know that !
66

Peripatetic Pensioner,

GWN 09/06/2009 06:42:55
someone is f*"cking up my life living on a miniscule, but at least I have one, pension it's not me so who is it. Maybe the big boys did it and ran away. Ars@holes all.
67

Jo Flo,

10/06/2009 02:02:27
"Britain wouldn't forgive me if I resigned"

OH YES WE WILL

Sorry to hear your trouble Peri Pensh.

 

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