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Published Date: 07 November 2008
BANKS were under growing pressure last night to pass on dramatic savings to borrowers after the Bank of England slashed interest rates by 1.5 percentage points.
Only Lloyds TSB confirmed it would adjust mortgage rates immediately, despite demands from consumer groups and politicians, including Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, for others to act. The government was keen that its views be heeded by the banks, as part of the £500 billion Treasury bail-out of the sector.

The announcement by the Bank's monetary policy committee (MPC) – which brought interest rates to a half-century low of 3 per cent – shocked and delighted commentators, who had been hoping for a one-point cut to try to stave off a prolonged recession. It means there has been a reduction of two full points in less than a month and analysts believe it could lead to a 1.5 per cent rate some time next year.

The European Central Bank also cut its rate yesterday, by half a percentage point to 3.25 per cent, and signalled another reduction was possible this year.

The moves came amid depressing international and domestic data. The International Monetary Fund predicted the world would slide into recession next year, the Halifax reported yet another UK house-price slump – of 15 per cent in the past year, an average fall of £30,000 – and it emerged sales of new cars had hit a new low.

In the wake of previous interest rate cuts, the government called on banks to pass on the savings to borrowers. This time, Westminster has further leverage because of its rescue agreement with some of the banks. The scheme means that HBOS, Lloyds TSB, Royal Bank of Scotland and five others that have signed up for government funds must keep their lending rates "competitive".

The Treasury said yesterday this was not meant to be a "scientific" term, but "it would not be competitive if you left (the rates] as they are". A spokesman said it was "not about forcing the banks" but "if interest rates were to change, (banks] would be expected to respond instead of doing nothing".

He added: "The way we hold them to act is we will hold preference and ordinary shares and, potentially, will have several directors on their boards."

Yvette Cooper, the Treasury Secretary, said UK Financial Investments Ltd – the new holding company set up by Alistair Darling, the Chancellor, to manage the taxpayers' share in the banks – would also make sure the agreement conditions were met. Mr Darling said: "I think it's essential that the banks do pass on the benefit of lower interest rates to people and to businesses."

But the British Bankers Association warned consumers might not immediately see a benefit because the rate at which the banks lend to one another, the Libor, would have to change first.

And the Council of Mortgage Lenders said: "The real cost of funds to lenders is determined not by the Bank base rate, but by their own cost of borrowing.

"So it does not make commercial sense to insist or expect that lenders automatically 'pass on' cuts in the Bank rate to borrowers – other than those with Bank-rate tracker mortgages – unless and until the cut flows through to an equivalent reduction in their own funding costs."

If mortgage lenders did pass on the 1.5-point cut in full, it would slash the monthly cost of a typical £150,000 mortgage by £138 to £887, based on a new rate of 6 per cent.

Lloyds TSB, which also lends under the Cheltenham & Gloucester brand, said it was passing on the full cut to its variable-rate mortgage customers. But others were slower to respond, with all the main groups, including the UK's biggest lender, Halifax, saying only that their rates were under review.

Jonathan Fair, chief executive of the industry group Homes for Scotland, said: "Lenders must be persuaded to pass this substantial reduction on at the earliest opportunity.

"Homebuyers, and the housing industry, can take heart from today's announcement, the latest in a series of positive measures aimed at bringing stability back into the economy."

Announcing news of the rate cut to MPs, Harriet Harman, the Leader of the Commons, said there would be a "strong expectation" that it would be passed on to those who have mortgages and who run small businesses.

She said a government minister was meeting chief executives of banks and building societies and would make it "very, very clear" that the interest rate cut should be passed on to borrowers.

Ms Harman said: "The government has put in a considerable amount of public money – both directly £37 billion by way of capitalisation of banks, and through guarantees a further £250 billion – and we expect there to be some response from banks and building societies… (to] make sure that the interest rate cut is passed on, not only to mortgage holders but also to small businesses."

Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman, said: "The government-appointed directors of these semi-nationalised banks will now have to ensure that they continue to supply credit and pass on interest rate cuts."

The Bank said it had cut the rate so drastically because of the "substantial risk" of undershooting its 2 per cent inflation target as a sharp recession looms.

Business leaders and unions immediately, and warmly, welcomed the move, with "bold" being the favoured adjective. It is the biggest single cut since a two-point drop in March 1981 – when the country was gripped by recession in the early years of Margaret Thatcher's government – and brings rates to their lowest level since early 1955.

However, it did nothing to calm the turbulent markets, with the FTSE 100 ending 6 per cent down, wiping more than £62 billion off the value of Britain's top companies and surrendering a large slice of gains seen in previous sessions.

David Kern, an adviser to the British Chambers of Commerce, said the MPC should move much more "steadily and deliberately". "Emergency measures have the undesirable affect of unsettling the markets," he warned. "Using up all their bullets prematurely will leave the MPC with little scope to inject confidence through continued rate cuts when the recession deepens."

Analysts expect more aggressive cuts to come. Howard Archer, of Global Insight, said it was possible rates could fall to 1.5 per cent by mid-2009.


FACT BOX

SAVERS, already seeing the real value of their money eroded by inflation, will take a further hit from the rate cut. Current best buy deals of more than 6.5 per cent on savings accounts and 7 per cent on bonds are likely to be short lived. Moneyfacts.co.uk said yesterday it had seen an "influx" of savings providers pulling their fixed rate bonds following the MPC announcement.

Michelle Slade of the firm said: "We expect people to cut rates, but a lot should stave off cutting them by the full 1.5 per cent as they still want the custom because they are struggling to get funding for mortgages."


The last times rates were so low …

May, 1954: Roger Bannister, a 25-year-old British medical student, becomes the first man to run a mile in less than four minutes.

July, 1954: Fourteen years of food rationing in Britain is ended when restrictions on the sale and purchase of meat and bacon are lifted.

September, 1954: The National Trust for Scotland takes control of Fair Isle, situated between Shetland and Orkney, famous for its bird life and knitted sweaters.

November, 1954: Winston Churchill celebrates his 80th birthday.

December, 1954: Rock and roll becomes a valid genre as the first single hits the British charts, in the form of Bill Haley and his Comets' Shake, Rattle, and Roll.

January, 1955: Britain is hit by freezing temperatures that brings parts of the country to a halt, as snow blocks more than 70 roads, forcing the RAF to drop food and medical supplies to affected areas.

January, 1955: Fourteen people are killed and dozens injured when an express train travelling from York to Bristol derails and overturns at Sutton Coldfield station.


Analysis: 'With only 47 shopping days left to Christmas, key issue is whether move will fill Britain's shoppers with Yuletide cheer'

DAVID BELL

EXTRAORDINARY times call for extraordinary actions. Yesterday, the Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee finally got the message. It made its boldest move since it was set up, cutting the base rate by 1.5 per cent.

This was the deepest cut since 1981, when the UK was similarly poised on the edge of recession. The size of yesterday's cut wrong-footed City analysts, accustomed to a gradualist approach from a cautious MPC. Such a dramatic change in sentiment has rarely been witnessed since Paul visited Damascus. Two months ago, only one member of the committee, David Blanchflower of Stirling University, voted for a cut. Last month there was unanimity among all nine members on a cut of 0.5 per cent. Yesterday, they agreed to reduce base rate to 3 per cent, its lowest for 50 years.

Three developments have changed the collective mind of the MPC. First, it now realises that the Bank's forecasting models, which had predicted modest growth during 2008 and 2009, are incapable of dealing with monetary shocks, such as the tightening of credit conditions following the collapse of the US subprime market. Second, a flurry of adverse indicators suggests that the health of the British economy has changed rapidly from seeming robust health to being in need of intensive care.

Reports from construction, manufacturing, transport, financial services, retail and other services all suggest output is contracting. Following their near collapse, the deleveraging of major banks is strangling the supply of credit to consumers, housebuyers and businesses.

Third, the threat of inflation driven by higher oil, energy, commodity and food prices has vanished as rapidly as the proverbial snow off a dyke as prices have fallen.

As the economy is in largely uncharted territory, the Bank does not know what effect this latest move will have. Its move must reflect an expectation that, next year, inflation could be so far below its 2 per cent target that the Governor will again have to write an apologetic letter to the Chancellor – only this time to explain why it is below target.

Its fervent hope that credit conditions will ease depends on the extent to which rate cuts are passed on. Even if not fully reflected in the rates banks charge, the cut will almost certainly reduce the cost of borrowing. Relative recent calm in the markets helped edge the critical Libor rate down, even before yesterday's cut.

Hopefully, further easing will also lead to a rise in the supply of credit. Savers will lose – though with inflation coming down rapidly, the real value of their assets will be maintained. Over the next few weeks, there will be more bad news. But attention will gradually switch to the high street as Christmas approaches. With only 47 shopping days left, the key issue will be whether yesterday's cut will restore enough confidence to fill Britain's shoppers with Yuletide cheer, offsetting the gloom hanging over the economy.

• David Bell is professor of economics, Stirling University.


Number of Scots going bankrupt could hit 20,000 by end of year

JEFF SALWAY

RECORD numbers of Scots are going bust, according to figures released today .

There were 5,998 personal insolvencies in Scotland in the three months to the end of September, a 26.7 per cent hike on the previous quarter and 70.1 per cent more than in the same period last year.

A total of 14,008 Scots were made bankrupt in the first three-quarters of this year, more than in the whole of 2007, said accountants and business advisers PKF, who analysed the new government insolvency figures.

If the current rate of increase continues, the number of Scots made bankrupt in 2008 could reach 20,000. In 1998, just 4,465 Scots were made bankrupt.

The last three months have seen a similar increase in the number of Scottish companies going bust. There was 30 per cent hike to 289 in the number of Scots companies going into liquidation or receivership in the third quarter, said PKF, a 43 per cent increase on the corresponding quarter last year.

Among the Scots firms to have gone to the wall since July are the Edinburgh-based housebuilder Gregor Shore and the coffee house chain Beanscene.

The personal insolvency figures include both protected trust deeds (effectively voluntary bankruptcies) and sequestration, the Scottish term for formal bankruptcy.

The rise is partly due to a rule change introduced in April this year that makes it easier for those on low incomes to declare themselves bankrupt.

But easy availability of credit in recent years remains the chief reason for the rise in insolvencies, said Anne Buchanan, corporate recovery partner with PKF.

She said: "At the root of all of this personal insolvency is many years of unrestrained credit, resulting in thousands of individuals extending themselves beyond the possibility of repayment and ultimately resulting in their bankruptcy."

Yesterday's interest rate cut to 3 per cent was too late for those already struggling with debt, she added. "The drop in interest rates will take some months to filter through and benefit individuals, and there will be many people teetering on the brink of insolvency."


Crunch in brief

Steel giant Corus to cut 400 jobs

THE economic downturn yesterday claimed more jobs as steel giant Corus announced plans to cut 400 posts from its distribution business.

The proposed cuts will be spread across the UK, including 100 in the West Midlands, almost 150 in Wales and 50 in Leeds.

Meanwhile, historic china manufacturer Royal Worcester & Spode Ltd last night announced it had gone into administration.

The Midlands-based firm, that dates back to 1751, employs 388 people.

Car sales crashto 17-year low

NEW car sales in October suffered their biggest monthly year-on-year fall for more than 17 years. Motor industry leaders predicted that annual sales in 2009 would dip below the two million mark for the first time since 1995.

The number of new UK registrations in October 2008 totalled 128,352 – a 23 per cent drop on the October 2007 figure, the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders announced. The decline was the steepest since June 1991.

Jitters set to hit the art market

SERIOUS jitters took hold in the international art market yesterday as auction houses struggled to find buyers for works from Manet and Renoir to Rothko. Two private art collections, owned by the Hillman and Lawrence families in New York, were expected to fetch more than $100 million (£63 million).

But the total sale at Christie's in Manhattan was less than half that, with 17 out of 58 works failing to sell and others bringing much lower prices than predicted.

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Vaccav,

Sydney and Edinburgh 07/11/2008 03:55:51
This rate cut has the potential to make buy to let an interesting proposition ...........

Rental yields can be obtained in some parts of Edinburgh at 6% - 7%. If the banks end up making mortgages available at, say, 4% then that leaves 200 - 300 pts of profit available to the investor. That's a lot of margin to repay the principal with and maybe even make a small profit.

True, property prices will fall further and this will make most of us BTL-ers quite cautious ......... but nonetheless, BTL is going to get interesting if rates keep falling. Eventually, the yield, could be 7%, the mortgage could be 2% and that leaves 5% to repay the principal.

Good move by the BoE. Let's hope the banks pass most of it on to us.

Vaccav
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School Inspector,

07/11/2008 06:46:57
Errr No Vaccav, Buy-to-let mortgages comes in at between 1.5% and 2.0% above base-rate i.e. even now after this reduction, about 5% and Edinburgh yields are between 4% and 6% less running costs of about 15% to 20% of the expected rental i.e. you will get between 3.5% and 5.2% yield gross ........... then you pay tax on that ............. and then you can start to repay the principal. Unless you are expecting capital growth it is still not clever in Edinburgh. This is not desigined to keep greedy little Edinburgh 2nd home owners happy - it is for the millions of in-hock voters who were stupid enough to borrow beyond their means to pay for a holiday / night out on the razz and now the Government has to bail them out instead of letting them sink!
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madrab,

Edinburgh 07/11/2008 06:53:39
All this does is increase the profits made by banks by reducing the rates given to savers. Without supporting legislation this is another yet another con by Brown.
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Ugly George,

Edinburgh 07/11/2008 07:52:02
I have just applied to remortgage on a "tracker" of base rate +1.2%. That means I should get a mortgage at 4.2% - sounds like a good deal.
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Douglas,

Bathgate 07/11/2008 08:20:00
Banks eh? Take with one hand and keep with the other.
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Vaccav,

Sydney and Edinburgh 07/11/2008 08:41:30
School Inspector,

I think we might have a difference of view based upon the minutei of the mathematics here. Even if I use your figures of BTL's costing 1.5% more than base ie 4.5% in total then with yields of 6% to 7%, the property will still be cash flow positive on a month to month basis.

I think we may differ on our view of yields. 6% - 7% is achievable so long as you look hard enough and know what you're after. Obviously with a 4% yield (eg Marchmont or Bruntsfield) the maths don't work.

But with 6.5% in, say, Dalry and a 4.5% interest cost then the there's a profit of 200 pts. Sure - there's running costs, but even at 15% (your figures) that's a net rent of 5.5% and an interest cost of 4.5%. This would make a BTL-er 100pts ahead each month. You mentioned tax - but remember that you get a tax deduction for the 4.5% interest and the running costs. So the tax is only on the 'profit'.

BUT, as you rightly point out (as i mentioned too) falling prices have I'm sure got some way to run. This makes it a brave investment at the moment.

Nonetheless, my point was that as the rates fall (and more seem to be on the cards) the BTL investment becomes a more intersting proposition. The 100pts of profit mentioned above will increase if rates fall further - but only if the banks pass the reductions on.

Here's hoping they do.

Vaccav




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Plodjfriss, Hammer of the Numpties,

Edinburgh 07/11/2008 09:14:46
The effect of this seems to be to reward debtors and punish savers. There's not a great deal of incentive to save your money for a rainy day nowadays. Unfortunately, given the way the economy's going it looks as if rainy days are going to become increasingly frequent.
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ccc,

07/11/2008 09:26:49
Vaccav.

A few points.

There is a MASSIVE glut of rental properties in Edinburgh just now.

Renatal yields of 6-7% ? This is of course assuming you have the 25%+ deposit required for the flats you are talking about. If you are talking about Marchmont etc.. then we are looking at 50k plus. Also when calculating true yield you must take off the amount you would get from your deposit simply sitting in a bank account at zero effort or maintenence to yourself.

So yes. For someone with tens of thousands of pounds sitting around. That can be bothered with the hassle of looking after and worrying about a flat. That doesn't mind that the capital value of the flat is likely to fall up to 50% over the next few years. That doesn't mind void periods due to the glut of rental properties on the market right now....

Yes for someone like that BTL in Edinburgh looks great just now....

Property is dead as an investment for at least 5 years. I simply don't understand why people can't see this.

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Isonomia,

Lenzie 07/11/2008 09:42:18
The banking sector got into a mess because it massively overlent to people who are not going to be able to pay back their loans. The bank's nearly went under because they had massively overlent and were not making sufficient money to cover the risk of their lendings.

And now, at a time when those lendings are their most risky, at a time when bank earnings are lowest, what do people want the banks to do ... become lending charities increasing lending to those who won't be able to aford to pay it back.

The hypocracy of politicians is eyewatering. They claimed they were singlehandedly creating an economic boom when they encouraged everyone to borrow-to-spend, now when that borrowing needs to be repaid, it is the politicians who are pinning the blaim on the banks who were just carrying out government ecnomic policy.
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Vaccav,

Sydney and Edinburgh 07/11/2008 09:55:06
ccc at #8,

Thanks for your comments - but I'm afraid I'm not convinced. Rents have risen over the last year or so and most landlords are experiencing reasonable occupancy rates in city centre flats - especially in areas like Dalry. Certain times of the year traditionally have higher vacancy rates than exist during peak season (May - Sept). My own experience is that good properties in good areas are renting satisfactorily. If you're renting out property at the bottom of Leith then I suspect you might be right about a glut down there, though.

Turning to your anticipated drop of 50% - that's quite a gloomy predication compared to other predictions out there. Most predictions are of a drop of about 20% - 40% as an AVERAGE drop across the UK. Edinburgh has, historically, tended to have price fluctuations that are below the UK average - it hasn't gone up as much as, London, for example and might not go down so much. Mind you, the past isn't always right ...... and I think a further drop will occur (as mentioned in my previous two posts). But - but I suspect 15 - 25% might be closer to the mark.

You mentioned that you prefer to calculate rental yields differently. Rental yields are, in the industry, calculated by taking the gross rent over the property's value. It's not normal practice to make any deduction for the opportunity cost associated with how deposit monies might otherwise be invested. Most people would then compare the overall return on investment with other alternatives (eg placing investment monies on deposit, as you mention).

I think you and I might both agree that BTL is not currently the most attractive investment. Where we disagree, I suspect, is in the strength of that view - you appear to think a further 50% fall and 5 years is the minimum time before a recovery.

My own view, is that falling interest rates have made BTL more attractive (or, ok, less unattractive). I think the turning point (in terms of level of intere
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Vaccav,

Sydney and Edinburgh 07/11/2008 09:59:23
Continued....

My own view, is that falling interest rates have made BTL more attractive (or, ok, less unattractive). I think the turning point (in terms of level of interest rates) will be reached long before 5 years and a 50% drop.

But that all depends on further interest rate cuts and whether the banks pass on those cuts to us. Here's hoping.

Vaccav
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The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

07/11/2008 10:12:24
Abbey Santander and LTSB have passed on the full cut - the others are going to have to do something or they will lose business. I'd expect announcements today from the other banks.
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ccc,

07/11/2008 10:18:40
Interesting comments Vaccav.

"Rental yields are, in the industry, calculated by taking the gross rent over the property's value"

Can I ask how this is worked out ? I don't get it.

As for predictions of prices yes my predictions are 'gloomier' (Gloom for one person is cheer for another) than many others however that is backed up by long term trends. You say prices in Edinburgh have not peaked and troughed as much as other areas ? That was maybe true until 2000 but not anymore.

I have to tell you Edinburgh is one of the most overpriced place in the UK in my opinion. It all comes down to affordability in the end. Long term average, for everywhere in the UK is average house = average salary X 3 or 4. Until 2003ish Edinburgh had always stayed within this range (Give or take)

Last year at the peak in Edinburgh it was over 8 times !! Hence prices have to fall about 50% (In real terms) for them simply to reach the average. THEY STILL WILL NOT EVEN BE HISTORICALL CHEAP ONCE THEY REACH THIS LEVEL.

As for real or nominal falls it all depends on wage inflation. The likelyhood of that surging up anytime soon is close to zero. Hence I think most of the falls over the next 2 years will be nominal.

Even you think prices will drop by up to 25% here. So why would you pay a huge deposit now for something that you expect to drop in value over the next few years ? Put your deposit in a 2 year bond. Get about 4-5% interest for each year. Then buy a place and your deposit will cover far far more of the vaue of the house. Your LTV will be lower and your interest rate will therefore be lower. I simply do not see the point of buying anytime soon.

Still I do not think capital values will recover for a long long time. History tells us that the trough of a bubble like this lasts for many years. So based on all that I dont reckon property is a good investment for a number of years.

Anyway I plan to buy a place to live in. Not to make money off. That is what got us i
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ccc,

07/11/2008 10:21:22
Cont..

Anyway I plan to buy a place to live in. Not to make money off. That is what got us in this mess in the first place. I have no problem with the odd person being a landlord. That is perfectly reasonable and necessary. However in the last few years half this country thought they would make millions by becoming 'property developers'.

It was not difficult to see this would all end in tears.

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Brian Ferrari,

07/11/2008 10:24:35
My tracker buy to let rates are now:

2.74% (Birmingham Midshires)
2.99% Ditto
4% Dunfermline BS

Up until yesterday I thought prices would drop but if liquidity comes back and interest rates on new mortgages fall to around 5% then I can see prices going back up again. Just in time for the next electiion.

PS Given about 40% of Birmingham Midshires loans are trackers, this will lead to a serious reduction in their owner HBOS's income. Most of their trackers revert to 2% over base when initial rate expires, which is still a hell of a good deal.
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Alan B,

07/11/2008 10:40:55
Problem with banks cutting rates are:

1)they need depositors. The whole idea behind government bail outs is they do not have enough money.

2)the inter bank lending rates are not low enough. If banks finance much of their lending via inter bank lending if that has not come down and is too high then banks cannot cut rates.

Apparently the plan labour to pump money into the credit markets has not been put into action fully yet. Vince Cable was pretty good on tv explaining it. This needs to be done to get the credit markets working before anything can happen.

3)what seriously is the merit in bringing down rates. the problem for banks is they are too exposed the credit markets. The problems for business is they cannot refinance loans not that the existing loan rates were too high. Similarly for house owners. Alhough those who based their mortgage on the initial discounted rate will have problems if they cannot remortgage.

At the end of the day banks that are making loses and in trouble are hardly profiteering by not passing on rate cuts.
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Vaccav,

Edinburgh and Sydney 07/11/2008 10:42:29
ccc at 14,

The normal calculation for yield is the gross annual rental divided by the market value. For example, rent of 900 per month x 12 = 10,800 per annum. If the flat cost 170,000 to buy then the yield would be 6.35%.

Anyway, I suspect that you and I should agree to disagree. We both agree on the direction of Edinburgh property prices, it's just the extent of the reduction that we disagree on.

Interestingly, in Sydney the property bubble came to an end in 2003. The 'average' property price in Sydney has been fairly flat for about 4 years - the government succeeded in , effectively, engineering a gentle deflation of the property bubble. That is to say that nominal prices didn't really fally but wage inflation and general inflation meant that real property prices fell. And indeed, the price/income ratio reduced from about 9 to 6.5.

The great benefit is that because nominal prices didn't fall, the incidence of negative equity was a lot worse than it could've been. (Although I should say that these generalisations mask some more significant falls in some areas of Sydney where the bubble became enormous - a bit like new builds in Leith).

Unfortunately, I don't think they Sydney experience will recurr in Edinburgh as the falls are already occuring in Scotland.

Hopefully, though, the interest rate reductions will make property more attractive and prevent a 50% price reduction. I don't think many people would be pleased with 50% price reductions as the negative equity that would result for large swathes of the population would be awful for families and homeowners.

Vaccav




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Vaccav,

Sydney and Edinburgh 07/11/2008 10:45:48
Sorry - I meant to say that in Sydney the incidence of negative equity was a lot LESS than it could've been.

Vaccav
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fritigern,

Inverness 07/11/2008 11:51:58
The present financial crisis was caused by lending large sums of money at low interest rates, so that when interest rates went up alittle people could no longer afford their loans. So what does that financial genius Brown do? Lowers interst rates so the cycle can start again!!!!

How can people be expected to save when interest rates are way below the inflation rate? The prudent are once again be punished by this Socialist regime, which really does hate anyone who tries to better or look after themselves.
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ccc,

07/11/2008 12:33:41
Vaccav,

Cheers for that. I have always seen 'yields' worked out in terms of monthly incomings vs outgoings. Suppose there are different ways of doing it.

As for what will happen here or in Oz we will have to beg to differ. I reckon your property crash over there has maybe only just begun. Even if your Government is using taxpayers money to bribe FTB's into the market. Pretty shocking ploy IMO !!

 

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