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Brown to take Cabinet out of Westminster but 'SNP had the idea first'



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Published Date: 05 August 2008
GORDON Brown is to hold a Cabinet meeting in the West Midlands as part of an effort to reconnect with the public – the first time the group of senior ministers will have met outside Westminster in more than 80 years.
The meeting is scheduled for 8 September. The exact location has yet to be decided.

The exercise is likely to be repeated at least once at another location, with ministers being sent on fact-finding missions around the chosen regions to "listen an
d learn" from voters.

However, Mr Brown was accused yesterday of stealing the ideas of the Scottish Government – Alex Salmond's Cabinet met last week in Dumfries and will meet today in Inverness.

The UK Cabinet last met outwith London in 1921, when the Liberal prime minister David Lloyd George summoned ministers in his coalition government to Inverness to discuss a crisis in Ireland.

He chose Inverness because he was holidaying nearby at Gairloch, while King George V was shooting at Moy.

The emergency Cabinet meeting, which was also attended by future Tory prime ministers Stanley Baldwin and Winston Churchill, was held at Inverness Town House – the same location that Mr Salmond has chosen for his Cabinet meeting today.

It resulted in the "Inverness Formula", which paved the way for the creation of the Irish Free State.

When Mr Brown became Prime Minister last year, he moved the weekly Cabinet meeting from Thursday to Tuesday to prevent discussions clashing with parliamentary business, as the Commons normally starts later on a Tuesday.

However, the West Midlands meeting will be held on a Monday.

Mr Brown's spokesman said yesterday: "There will also be a range of events where ministers will engage with the people of the region, and that is consistent with the government's approach towards engagement and consultation. The Prime Minister has always made it clear he wants to listen and learn from the experience of people and the challenges they face in their daily lives."

Mr Brown's senior Cabinet colleagues vowed to learn from a series of embarrassing by-election defeats and the loss of hundreds of councillors in England and Wales, in an effort to restore government popularity.

The SNP decided to hold four Cabinet meetings outside Edinburgh to take government "closer to the people". Pitlochry and Skye are the remaining venues, on 19 and 26 August respectively.

Brian Adam, the SNP MSP and chief whip, said: "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Gordon Brown is listening, learning and stealing ideas from the SNP."

The cabinet meetings will be accompanied with the hosting of "good causes" receptions and meetings to promote the SNP's controversial "national conversation" debate on the country's constitutional future.

At Westminster, Alistair Darling, the Chancellor, was starting his week standing in for Mr Brown, replacing Harriet Harman, Labour's deputy leader.

But Mr Brown's spokesman said: "The Prime Minister remains in charge while he is on holiday. He continues to remain closely involved in all the issues."

Mr Brown is expected to conclude his holiday in Suffolk with several days in Scotland, before heading to Beijing for the closing ceremony of the Olympic Games.

The idea of holding Cabinet meetings around the country was previously suggested by Hazel Blears, the Communities Secretary.

The SNP yesterday said that, following Labour's defeat in last month's Glasgow East by-election, Mr Brown should adopt more of its policies.

Top of its list were moves to tackle soaring energy prices, impose a windfall tax on energy firms and reduce the levy on petrol at a time when the soaring price of oil had produced a £6 billion bonus to the Treasury.

SNP roadshow heads north

ALEX Salmond, the First Minister, rolled into Inverness yesterday with the latest push to persuade voters on the benefits of independence.

The visit, which continues today, is part of the SNP's National Conversation to further the cause of independence and will see the cabinet holding a formal meeting in the city as a commitment to taking government "outside the Holyrood village".

This follows a similar trip to Dumfries last week, and Pitlochry and Skye are the next destinations.

Yesterday, Mr Salmond took a tour of the site of the Battle of Culloden to promote the 2009 Homecoming.

Today, the cabinet will have a formal meeting before taking part in a question-and-answer session with locals. This will be followed by ministers spending the afternoon meeting local groups and businesses, including visits by Mr Salmond to Raigmore Hospital and John Swinney, the finance secretary, to Inverness High School.





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  • Last Updated: 05 August 2008 12:14 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 05/08/2008 00:01:25
G: “Mum, Alex took my toy.”
A: “Mummy, Gordon’s on my side.”

M: “Oh, grow up the both of you!”

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ThomasP,

05/08/2008 00:16:03
Labour stealing Nationlist ideas...

Well if Salmond was Leader of Labour least Labour would not be in such a problem now.
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Chris.J,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 00:24:38
I trust that the noble Lord Foulkes will be providing the Scotsman with a soundbite decrying the waste of taxpayers money on Brown's travelling cabinet?? After all, our favourite village idiot didn't waste any time in getting his usual frothing-at-the-mouth views into the Scotsman with regards the Scottish Government's similar exercise.
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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 05/08/2008 08:44:56
Mobile parliaments are not of SNP's invention. Pharoah Ahkenaten tried this some years ago!
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Lesley McDade,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 08:54:08
Wow so many comments removed by Administrator with a reason - freedom of expression is obviously not one of them then.

Anyway, good idea - a bit of diversity is not a bad thing, possibly even equality. A bit of statistical data as feedback would be useful concerning this exercise - anticipating it has a substantive reason over a PR stunt: like for instance using Westminster as the English Parliament and West Midlands as a potential UK Parliament - under devolution England sort of never got devolved - could this be an equality measure for the English on a line management structure - European Parliament; UK Parliament; England, N Ireland, Scotland, Wales devolved parliaments - it needs to happen - to be fair.
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Steve_HMFC,

05/08/2008 09:25:32
Lol the administrator has been busy today
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Dancer,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 10:00:45
What is the removed Comment. I take it must have been important to warrant posting so many times.
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Alan B,

05/08/2008 10:06:47
Is Gordy going to steal the idea for LIT next?
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Porky,

Socialist Republic of Walsall 05/08/2008 10:32:36
Administrator on piece-work then - but he's only removed 996 comments - I hope his bonus didn't depend on 1000.
Re the story - the last thing we want in the West Midlands is this pretence of democracy. "Closer to the people".
B#ll#x. I'll bet they don't meet one English person. They will meet a few "community leaders" (all dark skinned foreigners) and scoot back to our wonderful multicultural metropolis to claim the travel expenses
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Benedict Arnold,

Paris 05/08/2008 11:46:20
As reported above, the pro-independence Scottish Cabinet is meeting today in Inverness, where the only UK Cabinet meeting so far held outside London took place on August 6th 1921, chaired by David Lloyd George. The historic significance of this, of course, is that it was at that UK Cabinet meeting that the Inverness Formula was devised and agreed upon, which led to the Anglo-Irish Treaty of the same year, which resulted in independent dominion status for the entity which later evolved from the Irish Free State into the Republic of Ireland.

The current UK PM is reported to be planning to take his Cabinet on tour around the UK later in the summer. One hopes that he will include Inverness in the itinerary. The significance of such an infelicitous choice of meeting place for a UK Cabinet will be apparent to the Scottish public, not least because First Minister Salmond is busy drawing attention to it, although, naturally, it will be entirely un-noticed in England and, if noticed, not understood.
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FLUB,

a rocky outcrop in eastern central Scotland 05/08/2008 14:21:11
Rather a lot of 'claret' on this thread!! Is the administrator on bonus or something? Perhaps an '18' certificate would be appropriate :-)
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megz,

glasgow 05/08/2008 14:30:20
whats up here?
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Happy H,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 14:33:30
If this has happened before, albeit 80 years ago, how is it be a new idea to be stolen?
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Ctinj,

Alloa 05/08/2008 16:39:30
mmm this story seems to have created contraversy
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Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 05/08/2008 16:39:57
Has the Scotsman flipped?
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Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 05/08/2008 17:30:30
I can just see them now, A cabinet meeting on a park bench eating sandwiches in a quiet deserted park, probably in scunthorpe, And they will spend the whole day cursing Alex salmond and his party. lol.
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puskas,

East kilbride 05/08/2008 20:46:03
A sad time for democratic debate...
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Daveunderwater,

05/08/2008 23:39:06
why bother?

 

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