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Published Date: 09 July 2008
WORLD leaders at the G8 summit came under fierce attack from environmental campaigners last night despite committing themselves to cut global emissions in half by 2050.
Green groups said the target – a slight toughening of last year's pledge – was now redundant and cuts of 80 to 95 per cent were needed to prevent global warming becoming life-threatening.

Eilidh Whiteford, campaigns manager for Oxfam Scotland, said: "At this rate, by 2050 the world will be cooked and the G8 leaders will be long forgotten. The G8's endorsement of a tepid '50 by 50' climate goal leaves us with a 50/50 chance of a climate meltdown."

G8 nations, meeting in Japan, yesterday vowed to "consider and adopt" the goal of reducing by 50 per cent emissions "from all major economies". Previously they had promised to "seriously consider" hitting the target.

Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, said there had been "major progress" beyond what was thought feasible only a few months ago. "Countries which previously objected to setting overall targets have accepted these targets subject to there being an international agreement," he said.

And Nigel Griffiths, Labour MP for Edinburgh South, said: "It's remarkable that Gordon Brown has achieved this consensus to get even to 50 per cent. Can you imagine the Texan, George Bush, agreeing to this even two, three or four years ago?"

But environmentalists raised concerns that there were no interim international targets for countries to hit, despite the need for global emissions to peak no later than 2015.

There was also confusion about which year the 50 per cent target would be measured from. Campaigners want it to refer to 1990 emissions but the Japanese prime minister, Yasuo Fukuda, said it should be from current – and higher – rates.

Campaigners warned that it could cost more than £40 billion a year to help developing nations avoid damaging the environment as their economies grow. Hundreds of coal-fired power stations are being built in China as it moves from an nation based primarily on agriculture.

There was also alarm that money being allocated to tackle climate change would come out of aid budgets – meaning less would be spent on food, education and health measures.

Greenpeace's executive director, John Sauven, said: "The G8 could and should have ruled out the scores of new coal-fired power stations set to be built across the industrialised world, threatening any hope we have of beating climate change. Instead, we got a festival of vacuous back-slapping that bore no relation to the scientific reality."

Tom Picken, Friends of the Earth's international climate campaigner, accused G8 leaders of an "elaborate smokescreen" to try to fool the world they were showing leadership on global warming. "Setting a vague target for 42 years' time is utterly ineffectual in the face of the global catastrophe we all face," he said.

Yesterday the Commons environmental audit committee said politicians must act upon scientific advice, which requires emissions cuts in the UK and developed countries of 25-40 per cent by 2020 and 80-95 per cent by 2050. It also warned them not to undermine world efforts by backing airport expansions.

Edinburgh North and Leith Labour MP Mark Lazarowicz, who sits on the committee, told The Scotsman: "The agreement is some progress. Nevertheless, it's by no means enough if the world is going to meet the much bigger figure needed if we are going to have any hope of reversing serious climate change."

Meanwhile, all airlines flying in and out of the EU countries will face pollution limits from 2012 – and this will mean higher ticket prices. By 2020, a levy of up to £31.40 may have to be added, according to a European Commission report.

WHAT NEXT

HOUSEHOLDERS are to be encouraged to switch to energy-efficient lightbulbs, stop leaving electrical appliances on stand-by and consider purchasing "hybrid" electric cars under moves to reduce energy dependency.

The G8 yesterday unveiled 25 ideas to cut energy, with Gordon Brown saying he hoped one consequence of soaring oil and petrol prices would be the encouragement of vehicle manufacturers to build cheaper "greener" cars, which are exempt from road tax.

The Prime Minister said: "The combination of the car licence and petrol prices could, if we develop new technology, be to the benefit of car drivers... These hybrid cars... are not just for a few but cars that the ordinary family would think of buying."

Brown uses grisly photo to win Mugabe sanctions

A SHOCKING image of the mutilated body of an opponent of Robert Mugabe was yesterday shown to G8 leaders by Gordon Brown, to convince them to back sanctions against Zimbabwe.

And last night, Mr Mugabe was said to be ready to form a government with the opposition, only hours after the G8 stated they would seek the targeted sanctions against him.

Earlier, Mr Brown, the Prime Minister, circulated pictures of the body of Joshua Bakacheza, an activist for the opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) who was seized by Mr Mugabe's henchmen last month.

A Downing Street source said: "The Prime Minister was telling other world leaders that … every day we wait to act, more innocent people will suffer."

Later Simbarashe Mumbengegwi, Zimbabwe's foreign minister, said the way forward was for Mr Mugabe to form "an all-inclusive government where all the political parties take part". However, he remained vague on the role that Morgan Tsvangirai, the leader of the MDC, could take.

Mr Brown had also announced that the G8 countries were agreed over the need to press the United Nations to impose fresh sanctions on Mr Mugabe and his regime.

The UK is already signed up to EU sanctions, but the G8's own agreement removes the threat of Russia vetoing UN action.

The UN is to send a peace envoy to the Zimbabwean capital city, Harare, in a sign of the lack of progress achieved by the South African leader, Thabo Mbeki, and the African Union wants to force Mr Mugabe to rescind his claim on the presidency after losing one election and fixing another.

Mr Brown plans to hold talks with Mr Mbeki today.

Promises to double aid will be kept

A PROMISE to double annual aid to Africa by £12.5 billion by 2010 was agreed by the G8 yesterday, but campaigners warned time is running out the wealthy nations to honour their pledge.

The commitment, made at the G8 summit at Gleneagles in 2005, was thought to be at risk as a result of the global economic crisis. Poverty campaigners feared that aid to Africa – and the £12.5 billion promised to the rest of the developing world – would be jettisoned as governments concentrated on domestic issues.

But Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, said he was delighted the Gleneagles pledges had been retained, with the members also agreeing to supply 100 million malaria nets – potentially saving 600,000 lives – and to spend £10 billion on promoting agriculture, £1 billion on providing school places and £60 billion on combating infectious diseases.

Mr Brown also insisted he was the right man to lead the UK through the global credit crunch. "I believe the British economy is in a better position than most, so I am going to take the British economy through these difficulties," he said.

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  • Last Updated: 08 July 2008 11:24 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: The G8
 
1

The Great Deception,

09/07/2008 00:04:03
Why isn't Alex Salmond going along to this G8 thing? Sounds too important to ignore.
2

Brian Howes,

West Lothian 09/07/2008 02:43:47
Hello,

My Wife and I are in the same position but have both spent 214 days on remand for something we have not done. We have four young girls and they and my wife have suffered enough at the hands of the 2003 extradition act. No evidence is needed and the parents of four young children will be left in care when we are extradited to Arizona were we have never been for up to 3 years on remand there. where
is the justice if you loose before you even come to trial? If we are remanded or extradited we for crimes we have not done we will die for sure as we live for our children and each other and we have lost this for 214 days already without crime or evidence. Without our children we have nothing without each other we are no longer here.

http://www.petition.co.uk/howes_family_extradition_fight_please_help

Thank you,

The Howes Family
3

!Ya basta!,

09/07/2008 03:44:31
I would be believe Oxfam sooner than anybody from the G8. Better to ignore G8 and agitate from below. After all, when did any really significant and positive chnage come from top-down sham democarcy government?
4

yockel,

09/07/2008 06:12:08
That picture needs a caption competition.
5

Itchy,

09/07/2008 07:50:07
"G8 'fails to dig deep' on emission cuts"

Good. Climate change is a con.
6

Media 1,

cape town 09/07/2008 08:27:57
The G8 has done well, all the negativity is a joke. Climate change is a natural phenomena and our impact is miniscule.
There are more important things to concentrate on right now and climate change is not one of them...

I salute the G8, they do what they can within a very difficult atmosphere. They cannot please everyone!
7

Senga Jean,

09/07/2008 08:34:20
#1 If Scotland liberated its thinking our First Minister would be in the G8. Think about it!
8

Nikostratos,

09/07/2008 08:59:36
#13

silly Billy......Scotland on its own will just be rolled over by the big boys.
9

M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State......... Coatbridge 09/07/2008 09:16:51
Climate change ? Emission cuts ? Anything at all ?...... What the f were they doing there anyway ?
Ah, they got some resolution to resolve Mugabe if it gets resolved at the UN,where the hope to get a resolution and then finally resolve the situation
10

Unimpressed one,

09/07/2008 09:23:32
All the usual suspects pronouncing on the crisis that never will be. Of course what they really want is to de-construct our capitalist society and stop all economic growth because it offends their version of reality. Naturally the G8 leaders signed up. for a start none of them will be alive when this insanity is due to come into effect. Just imagine the world's great and good signing a pledge in 1918 dictating their policies for 1960! It's sheer insanity at its greenie best. Pulp the greens - compost the lot of them - that way at least they might do some good.
11

Queen D,

Glasgow 09/07/2008 10:00:38
I have just had a post rejected, accusing me of using a word which I have never used.
Has anyone else had this experience?
I said before I was so rudely ibterrupted that I thought the G8 was set up to allow the leaders some privacy , with NO media circus , to discuss problems in private.
280 million quid later we have the media circus and people munching enormous meals discussing poverty .
Mugabe faces sanctions , while the UK government builds a 10 million quid NEW Embassy in Harare.
12

Queen D,

Glasgow 09/07/2008 10:03:14
Acyually , thats the second time that has happened to me.
Call me paranoid if you like , but is it possible that they are trying to stifle comment?
And they don't like what certain people say?
13

Countryman,

09/07/2008 10:08:44
Not a word at the G8 Summit about the paramount need for Africa to curb its rampant population growth.
Aid in whatever form to the peoples of the Sub Saharan region only results in the population rising and thus back to starving stage 1.
Aid of any sort to Africa should have the condition of birth restraint attached, otherwise no go.
14

Eddie the Eagle,

Aberdeen 09/07/2008 10:37:35
No.11 - I totally agree. Most of the media seems to push it being fact that climate change is driven by increased greenhouse gas levels due to human influence, when no one has produced reasonable research to back it up and in reality it isn't even a plausible theory. Krakatoa realased more CO2 to the atmosphere in 1 day than humans did throughout the entire industrial revolution. The sea level of the med rose 50 meters 200 years ago, I don't remember learning about roman coal burning power stations and greek gas guzzlers in history class.

The earth has been heating and cooling for 4 billion years. Mostly this is due to our relative proximity to the sun changing which is cyclic, at least 3 separate cycles, and can be clearly seen throughout the rock record.

Research coming from Norway and Denmark has shown that the temperature changes we have seen recently can be matched almost exactly to changes in the levels of solar activity.

Too much time is devoted in politics to dealing with CO2 emissions. It you want to legistlate over emissions try cutting out poisons.
15

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 11:44:36
"...despite committing themselves to cut global emissions in half by 2050."

They could achieve this by just shutting up. I'm convinced that the amount of hot air spouted by these ineffective, do-gooders is more than enough to create Armageddon by "global warming" by the year 2050.
16

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 09/07/2008 11:56:54
So - £500,000 of jet later for Broon and a giant beano while they discuss global warming and the starving. What's the outcome?

Reduce "greenhouse gases" by 50% by 2050. Bold target - unrealistic and unachievable and not one of those present can be held accountable for it, because they won't be on Planet Earth. So it's just a sham, as there are no interim targets to track progress. Then the Greenies, sensing victory start baying for an even more unrealistic 80%. Whenever you set targets it's a good idea to cailbrate the baseline you start from but even that's not been done. Recycling greens into normal people would help a great deal or at least ignoring their emissions. Dangerous people trying to stop economic activity with a sinister agenda of their own but gaining the ear of too many in power.

Then there's Mugabe amd I'm sure Thabo Mbeki is quaking at the prospect of being given a wigging by Gordon today. Hard though it may be my own view is that the African state themselves must see this through. The UN as usual will do nothing of any importance. It is though a useful smokescreen for Brown's own poor performance and unwillingness to give a referendum on the EU.

Finally the aid to Africa situation, desperately promoted by St. Bob (since when was he democratically elected to represent us?) and enthusiastically promotoed by Brown, but note, not many of the other G8 participants since their own economies like ours can hardly stand further billions to be pumped into the African quagmire. Aid of this magnitude will normally find itself channeled into Swiss accounts, or be hijacked for the favoured, or result in more uncontrolled population growth, which is the major factor in starvation. He thinks he's being magnanimous but fails to reckon with the truth of the situation and that this largesse is not going down well with the UK domestic population.
17

Richard Lionheart,

09/07/2008 12:00:29
The climate has always changed. The computer model used by the IPCC has been shown to be flawed and the real information on climate change is being suppressed by Government. Scientists are being threatened with loss of funding if they refute the governments stance.

It is time that we all stopped being conned by this.

Mankind has adapted to the changing climate through the millennia and we will continue to do so, unless we are taxed out of existence to prevent the climate from changing. Trying to stop the climate changing is futile.

The continued fervour to reduce co2 emissions will do nothing but make the poor of the world poorer and the co2 market traders richer. (ie Al Gore and his pals)
18

Sedov,

Scotland 09/07/2008 12:25:27
The summit cost £285 million which would buy 100 million mosquito nets. After much hand wringing about world food prices causing hunger and death our esteemed leaders sat down to an 18 course dinner. This followed the 7 course lunch gobbled down earlier. The meals were washed down by plentiful glasses of a wide selection of the most expensive wine money can buy. Leading by example - naw!





19

Gulliver,

Harare 09/07/2008 13:08:06
I am convinced that being hasty to come up with laws concerning CO2 emmissions is not the way forward, however, I think it would not be wise to dismiss concerns raised because we might have certain suspicions that nature would override any efforts made at minimizing the potential that can be attributed to human activity. # 20 pointed to Krakatoa and that's quite interesting. Following the huge eruption of Krakatoa in 1883, enough reflective volcanic aerosols and debris were ejected into the atmosphere that the following year, 1884, was known as the year without a summer. After that, the debris induced an oceanic cooling that lowered the earth's temperature. I think it's important to invest time and effort to fully appreciate the facts, understand the similarities and the differences with many other events then perhaps take it from there.
20

Griffe,

09/07/2008 13:17:33
The G8 leaders refusal to do more is a disgrace!
21

Citylocal Fife,

Fife News 09/07/2008 13:55:38
Gordon Brown will support any endeavour he can - if he thinks he can use it to raise taxes! Help to vote him out at the Glasgow by-election - anything but Labour!
22

wattie>x 1,

PLYMOUTH 09/07/2008 13:56:33
Can one wonder why when this shower off political impostors shown pictured in the heading above posing with a spade in their hands, which I am certain, not one off them has ever used in earnest?
The Green groups; most off whom have a personal vested interest in there campaign off opposition, wre right to attack the hypocrites but, in my opinion, for all the wrong reasons!
23

Citylocal Fife,

Fife News 09/07/2008 13:59:17
Caption:

"If we keep digging until 2050 we might just reach Gordon Brown's popularity rating."


24

Lochiel,

West o'Glasgow 09/07/2008 14:26:29
Caption (shamelessly ripped off from the movie Caddyshack):

"The world needs ditch diggers, too"
25

truthsleuth,

09/07/2008 14:27:20
#20 Eddie the Eagle,

Get back on your skis you made more sense then.
26

georgia,

somewhere outside chicago 09/07/2008 14:28:13
If you'll notice, Angela Merkel and others are kind of getting out of Bushie's way while he slings that shovel. He has been known to wreak havoc on unsuspecting people with mountain bikes and, most recently, with his big strong brush-cutting arms (the infamous massage he gave to Ms. Merkel during another one of these G8 so-called conferences). Come to think of it, Bushie looks a bit tired, as if his best digging days are over....could it be his brush-cutting on his Texas "ranch" were just photo ops??? Heaven forbid!! Our press says he is among the 5% fittest men in America!!

All kidding aside, the only reason any of these well-fed people is agreeing to anything is that they won't be around much longer so they can say anything they want. For Bush to "accept" climate change criteria is simply ridiculous, because time and time again he has said he doesn't believe it's happening. Since he cannot be re-elected, everything he promises now, espouses, and pretends to agree with is just His Majesty, King George, whiling away the time until he can escape to the 20,000 acres of prime Hawaiian paradise he has set aside as a retreat for himself and all his cohorts when they finally resign as vultures and flit back down to earth as rich fat cats, retired and raking in the spoils of their war against the middle and lower classes.
27

truthsleuth,

09/07/2008 14:30:54
All you petrolheads and motormouths want to think about your criticism of the G8 mob.
They are the most serious defenders of your way of life and it is they that continually try to delay the inevitable.



28

little scouse on the prarie,

Spring, Texas 09/07/2008 15:00:33
Leave the poor wee greenhouse gases alone, (water vapour is the largest volume), think possitive, how can a concentration of 0.00038% carbon dioxide matter. It's just a con that man is changing the climate, and if it is changing naturally - adapt. Just think of it - Perth, capitol of the banana belt, sugarcane on the banks of the Clyde and Aberdeen - peach mecca of Europe. Don't let these polititians cheat you out of tax money to fund this boondoggle. I can see it now "Come to the tropical paradise of Oban for your next holidy"
29

Eddie the Eagle,

Aberdeen 09/07/2008 16:03:11
#32 Truthsleuth

If you feel a scientific, rather than hysterical, approach to looking at climate change doesn't make sense, then perhaps this isn't really the most appropriate topic for you to be commenting on. Perhaps Big Brother would be more manageable for you.
30

Geomac 1,

Scotland 09/07/2008 16:41:34
#27 Griffe says "The G8 leaders refusal to do more is a disgrace!"
These guys haven't a scooby how to achieve 50% reduction never mind any more - and neither does Oxfam!! Why do you think they select a date so far away as to be meaningless?
Now that the earth is cooling (seems to have escaped politicians attention) since 1998, we should have little to worry about from global warming - maybe they should be dealing with real and important issues - poverty, economy etc!!
31

John Cameron,

Broughty Ferry 09/07/2008 16:53:39
Surely there are more pressing problems than the wearisome and idiotic Global Warming Obsession. The notion that a process as complicated as climate change is mainly driven by industrial carbon is one of the loopiest ideas dreamed up by even the Monster Raving Loony Green Party.
32

Eve,

Scotland Bonnie Scotland 09/07/2008 21:00:00
Thats what I like to see the so called world leaders serving the plant. Shame it's just for the two mins or so for photos and vidio futage could be gavered.
33

Buckfastleigh,

Buckfast 09/07/2008 21:31:10
38. Are you on Buckfast? Well done, keep drinking. Do you not realize with all the material and media coverage not least the care with which the UK government is introducing legislation on "carbon trading" that if we all continue as is we will tip the climate so far out of kilter that it will be impossible to recover the current situation FOR the NEXT 500 years.

I despair of the cynical attitudes in some sectors of our community that exist towards Government, the EU the G8 the UN on such a serious subject. The irony is that no matter what is presented by scientists and governments as hard evidence there are still folk that prefer to believe that smoking is safe, the car can continue to run on oil for ever and finally that the world is flat.

We all need to take climate change issues seriously and, to start, we all need to be following a real lead from Government which is inclined instead to extol the virtues of individual action and shirks from taking effective national and international measures that would really help including ensuring the US, China and India do the necessary.
34

Euan,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 21:43:10
The whole 'global warming' thing is nothing more than a complete scam, designed to fleece the average western citizen of even more of their hard-earned cash.

I'm all for making cars, power stations etc. more efficient, but the hype surrounding 'climate change' has to stop.

The fact is, countries like China and India are not even going to try and curb their emissions, especially at a time when global economies are struggling with the credit crunch and high oil prices - I mean why should they?, if it were us, we wouldn't.

The sooner people understand that this 'climate change' nonsense exists for the sole reason for keeping certain people around the world in a job, the better for all of us.






35

Buckfastleigh,

09/07/2008 22:16:27
Euan 41. How can you be so certain? A certain amount of cynicism is acceptable and I admire your realism about India and China; but the scientific evidence on global warming and the Carbon emissions are quantifiable. No doubt there are carpet baggers around making a tidy little industry of the concern. That does not negate that the problem exists and that we are moving like lemmings into the predictable end of humanity far quicker than we could be.
36

Mr A Roy,

09/07/2008 23:10:54
40* wheres the proof ? i really would like to agree with you but without any evidence except for glorified speak and spell machines. Show us the evidence please !
37

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 09/07/2008 23:39:27
#40 Buck

It is clear to me that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Another sheep..............baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
38

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 09/07/2008 23:42:26
The mis-placed obsession with Global Warming and CO2 is causing untold damage to hundreds of millions of people (starvation)and is sucking up research funds that should be more evenly spread amongst other climate research. We will look back at this with anger and regret.
39

11+failed,

the pans 10/07/2008 09:42:33
For a perfect example of what is meant by "gesture politics" - an empty pledge given solely for effect, which the politician has no hope of honouring - one could not do better than this week's commitment by the G8 leaders on how they want us to fight climate change.
Sitting on their cloud-wreathed Japanese mountain top, they solemnly agreed that, to halt global warming, their countries would aim by 2050 to halve their emissions of carbon dioxide.
If the G8's leaders genuinely wanted to cut carbon emissions by 50 per cent over the next 40 years, this would mean taking steps they haven't even begun to contemplate
A tiny indication of the fact that they didn't really have a clue what they were talking about was a slip by Japan's prime minister, Yasuo Fukuda, when he had to be corrected for announcing that the CO2 cut would be measured from "1990 levels".
Even when he amended this to "present-day levels", he was merely spouting empty words into the oriental air.
Three things make this aspiration by the leaders of the world's "eight richest countries" not just vainglorious grandstanding, but positively dangerous.
The first is that, as well as having no idea how they could achieve such an absurdly ambitious target, they may inflict immeasurable damage on their economies just by trying to do so.
One after another, it is becoming clear that all the costly measures so far proposed to cut carbon emissions are pie-in-the-sky.
40

Unimpressed one,

10/07/2008 09:43:01
#34, OOOOHHHH - the sky's falling, the sky's falling!!
41

11+failed,

the pans 10/07/2008 09:56:48
With global temperatures now around their lowest since 1992 I am surprised by all these climate change deniers! However, I am grateful that like last year the dry warm summer consistent with global warming theory is with us this year again. Excuse the smudges seems my roof is leaking again.
42

drew 33,

10/07/2008 10:42:02
One picture is worth a thousand words! There we have George Bush contemplating which of the two European leaders on his left he should empty his spade on. Angela a step behind but following George, Brown indecisive but belatedly following George and Angela. The two Europeans completely lost on how to use their spades and one looking to the other for inspiration.
43

Harbinger,

10/07/2008 11:20:11
One of the main promoters of the global warming myth is the Tyndall Centre at the University of East Anglia in conjunction with the main NGO's. They have pushed for a 60% emissions reduction, now 80%, they want carbon credit cards and are responsible for the airline taxes. They have a constant feed in to MP's.

These comments are from a working paper in 2004:

Global warming (or climate change) is, without elaboration, a much debated and contested issue. Not only is it contested among scientists, but also among all those with vested interests.

We suggest that, in the realm of the public, forces act to maintain or denounce a perceived reality which has already been constructed. That is, an issue introduced by science (or media for that matter) needs continual expression of confirmation if it is to be maintained as an issue.

To endorse policy change people must ‘believe’ that global warming will become a reality some time in the future.

Only the experience of positive temperature anomalies will be registered as indication of change if the issue is framed as global warming.

Both positive and negative temperature anomalies will be registered in experience as indication of change if the issue is framed as climate change.

We propose that in those countries where climate change has become the predominant popular term for the phenomenon, unseasonably cold temperatures, for example, are also interpreted to reflect climate change/global warming.

This theme was picked up by the government: David Miliband (former Environment Minister, now Foreign Secretary), was a one time researcher at IPPR, (Institute for Public Policy Research).

This is from their paper "Warm Words", in 2006.

Treating climate change as beyond argument:

"Much of the noise in the climate change discourse comes from argument and counter-argument, and it is our recommendation that, at least for popular communications, interested agencies now need to treat the argument as havin
44

Harbinger,

10/07/2008 11:23:43
The last bit got cut off, here it is again

David Miliband was a one time researcher at IPPR, (Institute for Public Policy Research).

This is from their paper "Warm Words", last year.

Treating climate change as beyond argument
"Much of the noise in the climate change discourse comes from argument and counter-argument, and it is our recommendation that, at least for popular communications, interested agencies now need to treat the argument as having been won.

This means simply behaving as if climate change exists and is real, and that individual actions are effective. The ‘facts’ need to be treated as being so taken-for-granted that they need not be spoken.

The certainty of the Government’s new climate-change slogan – ‘Together this generation will tackle climate change’ (Defra 2006) – gives an example of this approach. It constructs, rather than claims, its own factuality."

So come on everyone repeat after me, I believe that every day in every way it's getting hotter, hotter and hotter.
45

Billy Boy,

Sherman Oaks California 11/07/2008 14:00:48
#5 Yocket, very good idea, How About Bush saying; "are you sure ( Putin;Mugabe;Obama;etc) is under here"
46

Billy Boy,

Sherman Oaks 11/07/2008 14:06:39
#26 Wattie; Sorry to dissappoint you but Mr Bush has lots of expeience shovelling dirt and covering things up!

 

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