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Huge rise in methadone treatment



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Published Date: 19 December 2007
THE number of drug addicts in Scotland receiving prescriptions for methadone has risen by 35 per cent over the past five years, according to new figures.
Campaigners said the statistics reflected the huge rise in people addicted to heroin as a result of its easy availability.

The Class A drug is currently available for about £30-£100 a gram depending on quality, with supplies from Afghanistan flooding the market.

Nearly a third – about 20,000 – of Scotland's addict population are on methadone.

Last year the number of prescriptions for methadone reached almost half a million and the cost of prescribing the heroin substitute was £12,683,660 for 2006-7.

Researchers at the Scottish Drugs Misuse database said 12,222 "new individuals" had been reported in the past year. Heroin remains the most common drug among those seeking treatment for addiction, with 68 per cent reporting using it.

The report shows that major gaps still exist in drug treatment services with nearly half of those reporting problem cocaine use – 44 per cent – being resident in the NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde area, which does not have a cocaine treatment centre.

The latest quarterly figures showing how long addicts waited for appointments and treatment were also released. These revealed that on 30 September, there were 3,410 people waiting for an assessment, with 731 waiting for more than a year.

There were 1,247 people waiting for an appointment for treatment after their care plan had been drawn up. Some 375 people had been waiting for this for more than 12 months.

Tam Hendry, the chief executive of Streetwork UK, which campaigns for homeless people, said: "There has been a dramatic increase in the use of heroin over the past five years, with the number of people injecting trebling. Eight years ago two out of ten young homeless people you might see begging were injecting heroin, but now it is about nine out of ten. This is down to the sheer volume and availability of heroin which is much greater than it has ever been. The main reason is down to the supply from Afghanistan, which seems impossible to halt."

But Professor Neil McKeganey, director of the Centre for Drug Misuse at Glasgow University, disputed the link between cheap heroin and the rise in addicts seeking methadone prescriptions. He said: "All the Scottish Government statements talk about having a 'balanced array of polices' yet what we have is an over-prescribing of methadone for adults. We have no way of getting them off methadone and have created another addiction problem on top of heroin. What we do have is a desperate imbalance."

Fergus Ewing, the community safety minister, said the Scottish Government was launching a new drugs strategy next year.

Mr Ewing said: "These statistics present a stark snapshot of the challenges Scotland faces in endeavouring to tackle the scourge of drugs.

That is why this government is taking a fresh look at how we tackle drug misuse. We want to build on what has worked in the past, and build a new consensus on what could work in the future."

But the Tory leader Annabel Goldie called for a zero-tolerance attitude, with more investment in rehabilitation as well as harsher penalties for dealers.

She said: "Scottish Conservatives want an extra £100 million a year spent on rehabilitation as part of our biggest assault on drugs and crime ever seen in Scotland."

METHADONE: WHAT IT DOES

• METHADONE is a long-acting synthetic painkiller which mimics the effects of heroin but is less addictive. It is used as a substitute to try to wean addicts off heroin.

• Like heroin, it produces feelings of euphoria and sedation, but to a lesser extent.

• When taken in large amounts it produces side-effects similar to heroin including drowsiness, apathy and suppression of breathing reflexes.

• In excessive quantities, it will lead to coma and eventually to death.

• The first step in a methadone programme is a doctor issuing a prescription specifying the amount, the days it is to be administered, and restricting the person who can collect it to the addict only.

• Initially, a drug abuser is prescribed slowly increasing amounts of methadone to increase tolerance to the drug. The amount is then slowly decreased until they are cured of the need for the drug altogether.

• Some addicts remain on a steady dose to avoid them returning to heroin when the dosage drops. Some have created an alternative black market, selling their methadone doses for £2 a time.

The full article contains 765 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 18 December 2007 11:57 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Drugs policy
 
1

Archie, Gourock,

19/12/2007 01:41:06
Anyone else notice that the participation in these forums has gone gone through the floor since the introduction of this appalling, ill-constructed "new" website?

C'mon, hootsman. Review this. Your online presence is leaving in droves.
2

MacAlba: The Coming Independence (c2007).,

19/12/2007 01:49:15
Someone needs to mention that the world did not actually have a heroin or opioid problem until it was prohibited. The use of opioids was prolific until the prior half of the twentieth century, and few people had major health, financial or legal problems because of it.

Over 116 independent physicians and general practitioners submitted reports to the United States Federal Congress in 1914 just prior to the passage of the Harrison Act 1914, (the American act of congress banning the use of opioids in the US, stating in concurrence that pure heroin can be used for up to 25 years or longer without causing significant health problems to the user.

Can the same be said for that legally available and abundant drug, alcohol?

The current problems associated with opioid use occur due to the poor quality of "street manufactured" heroin that is of inferior and varying quality to the pharmaceutically manufactured pure heroin that is available in Switzerland. Simply, users do not know what they are using each time they shoot up - often resulting in overdose and rapid damage to the organs and blood vessels.

The restricted and illicit availability of heroin makes the prices too difficult for many addicts to meet - resulting in criminal activity to acquire the huge sums of money that are necessary to sustain a typical habit.

I trust that I am not the only one who sees how current prohibitive anti-drug legislation does more harm than good. Don't get me started on the copious amounts of money and public resources that are wasted on the futile "war against drugs."
3

W Smith,

Middle East 19/12/2007 06:31:52
The truth is the methadone programme in Scotland has been a disaster engineered by liberal minded folks who have their heads up their a£$%!

Fergus Ewing's prattling on about a "fresh look".

Aye, we all know what that means.

We should all know the routine by now.

More millions spent on the drug addicts including social workers and drug counsellors and their cars, petrol allowance and pensions.

Of course the muslim farmers, whose 'faith' allows them to grow and sell opium but not take the drug, never have to take personal responsiblity.

Any comments from Osama Saeed on his muslim 'brothers' trading in the most evil durg on the planet?

Any 'anger' from the muslim community in Scotland over this?

NAH!

Didn't think so!
4

Xena - Warrior Princess,

Edinburgh 19/12/2007 07:10:33
It's the Men and Women who take it not the Kids that I can't understand. Methadone is not working! I don't know what the answer is but to feed them another drug to wean them off heroin and keep them in a perpetual zombie like state is scary. They don't take responsibility for their lives or what they do "Cos I'm a junkie man".
5

clarry,

balmedie 19/12/2007 07:52:14
Methodone is as addictive as heroin and more destructive to the mind and body. Often addicts get methodone and then take heroin. That is the cause of many overdoses and death.

Better to reach rock bottom AND get properly supervised, professional help.

Safer to legalise heroin if the proper services are not put in place. Cheaper for services - safer for addicts.

Proper provided services best answer. Big problem.
Life and death situation. Graveyards full of young addicts who have overdosed. Disgrace. Just go and look.
6

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 19/12/2007 08:02:33
Time to legalise hard drugs through NHS clinics. Plenty of evidence from trials that this works.

Methadone is acceptable if it reduces crime and social costs.
7

Peter McCann,

west linton 19/12/2007 08:06:13
Fact: Methadone is more addictive than heroine and takes longer to detox from.
8

eric,

Lothian 19/12/2007 08:30:10
7 I agree it is more addictive .When i watch a live interveiw on tv in the 80s between Top cop in new York and Top cop in Strathclyde,The NY cop warned about cities becoming no go areas,The Strathclyde cop refused to acknowledge him direcectly,WOW was that NY cop wised up and we were so wrong ,The Scots cop said it woyuld never Happen in Scotland hahahahaha,My mate in NY cant believe we give free drugs (methasdone ) to junkies,NY city cant afford it with 9 million folk How can we!
9

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19/12/2007 08:35:17
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sam the god,

19/12/2007 08:37:18
just put all junkie on a deserted island with food and water and let them detox that way it will save a fortune on methadone
11

eric,

Lothian 19/12/2007 08:38:23
1 Your right mate.This site will be bodyswerved like most big companies are doing to Edinburgh,NAFF,
12

thinking,

Scotland 19/12/2007 08:54:37
What I want to know is why do people take drugs in the first place?
Life is too short to waste on something so destructive and there are so many things to do that can be so enjoyable.
13

Freshford Fresh,

Scotland 19/12/2007 09:08:02
#1 You're right. What is the point of constructing a new website when it is clearly inferior to the last?

What motivation do junkies have to start taking any responsibility for their own lives when the authorities are only too willing to let them roll over and rub their bellies.

Leave them to get on with it. If they're so determined to make no contribution to society reward them with exactly the same. Nothing. See how willing they are to lie around in a catatonic state all day then. If they turn to crime increase sentences for drug related crimes. Please don't reply that this will increase the prison population and there are too many drugs in prisons already, deal with that too. There should be absolutely no drugs in prison and no excuses.
14

IanW,

Ottobrunn 19/12/2007 10:13:00
Don't provide this treatment for junkies who have chaosen to breal the law. Cold Turkey the lot of them and stop nannying them.
15

\seasider,

Saltcoats 19/12/2007 11:18:45
#9 That sounds good to me. There are plenty of large uninhabited islands in Scotland which would serve the purpose. I am a pensioner and am fed up when visiting my local pharmacy to be jostled by those dossers waiting on their daily fix. Alcholics do not receive prescriptions for drink so why should junkies get drugs.
16

Robb,

19/12/2007 11:21:59
Methadone is NOT less addictive than heroin. It is at least as addictive, and probably more addictive. It has its place, and can be an effective means of treating heroin addiction in a small number of cases. By treating, I mean that the outcome would be that the addict becomes drug free at the end of treatment. It would appear though, that in the majority of cases, it is used purely as a maintenance tool, instead of a real attempt towards abstinence. There is no one solution to the problem. A combination of measures, via both the health and criminal justice systems are required. It would be sheer madness to make no attempt to deal with it as some suggest. As for stopping drugs in prisons, the authorities would much prefer to have addicts drugged up, quiet and comliant, than drug free, angry, and rioting. it suits the prisons to turn a blind eye to a degree, so that's exactly what they do.

As for the new Scotsman comments board - please change it back to the way it was before. It's awful, and as has already been said, regular posters are conspicuous by their absence. The rest will follow if the editors don't take note of peoples' opinions. Off to The Herald now....
17

sam the god,

19/12/2007 11:45:58
#15 seasider
yes i have notice that these scum think they should be first in line at the pharmacy the only thing they should be first for is public flogging but the pc brigade will think i am a right bad ba@tard for decrying these poor junkies my they all rot in hell
18

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 19/12/2007 12:17:31
So far I'm seriously glad that many posters to this item don't form the government even if they are mostly SNP devotees. Down there with the junkies go, but for the grace of goodness, most of us. Compassion is not out of place, you know. Even at this time of year.
19

IanW,

Ottobrunn 19/12/2007 12:34:15
Rulesbutnotrulers #18 - I understand your sentiment about compassion. However many in Scotland are increasingly concerned about the perceived growth in lawlessness in our society.

Drug addicts in general do not contribute their fair share to society, rather they are a drain on resources following a self inflicted addiction.

I have no problem with helping them if they are prepared to put in the hard work of comining off drugs however most of them, as far as I am concerned, seem only to want to take and not to give.

Compassion yes, but not at any price.
20

\seasider,

Saltcoats 19/12/2007 12:38:45
#18 please do not include me in your 'grace of goodness' statement. Firstly I am not a SNP devotee and secondly I,of my own choosing, did not involve myself in drugs. Nothing to do with 'grace of goodness' just common sense. These addicts chose to experiment of their own freewill and now expect the rest of us to pick up the pieces. Read up on China's policy on drug tafficking and abuse, they do not mess about, not like the do gooders,social workers etc. we are lumped with.
21

\seasider,

Saltcoats 19/12/2007 12:41:02
#19 Well said.
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tim1leg,

saltcoats 19/12/2007 15:17:15
shame on you saltcoats, i too am from the lovely town but as you will see have a different opinion,People take drugs for many reasons: peer pressure, relief of stress, increased energy, to relax, to relieve pain, to escape reality, to feel more self-esteem, and for recreation.Millions of pounds may be spent on policing the drugs industry from the poppy fields of Pashtun farmers to argyle or dockhead Street, but I could still wander out of my front door right now and score within minutes. there are a few things that you
should know about drug treatment in the UK.

If you go to see a doctor, a social worker or a probation officer, the person that you see will have received some training for the job. If you go to a
drugs agency, there worker that you see is unlikely to have been trained as a drugs worker. They may have trained in another discipline but the amount that they actually know about drugs or drug problems varies
immensely.This lack of knowledge will often permeate the whole of the agency. If the boss has very little drug-specific knowledge it is unlikely that he or she
will insist on it in his staff. As a consequence, Britain has drug services that are typified by their lack of professionalism. The unstated position that
is implicit here is, 'they're only drug addicts, anybody can deal with their problems', when in fact, too many drugs workers are unable to identify the
issues even when they are spelled out for them.
The expansion of drugs agencies over the last ten years or so has been fueled by political pressures and the availability of money, rather than any proven success at addressing a particular problem. Much of what drug services do is about justifying their existance or building empires and securing salaries, rather than addressing problems effectively. That said, there are many good, committed workers out there who will do their best to help you, and even the ones who aren't can be useful if you learn how to work the system and pla
23

tim1leg,

saltcoats 19/12/2007 15:20:12
who will do their best to help you, and even the ones who aren't can be useful if you learn how to work the system and play the game. while the predominant position in britain today is that treatment and prevention of drug abuse ought to take place within a medical framework, drug use is still punished under the law; and while it is argued that legal deterrence is necessary due to the dangers of drug use, more people die every year from tobacco and alcohol use which are not illegal. The mainstream approach to substance use (prohibition), treatment (according to the disease model), and prevention (through education) is an utter disaster, yet it continues to flourish. This is because of two factors: first, there is a lot of money to be made in this 'industry,' and second, there is a complex underlying psychopathology in society. Society suffers from the failings within education (children are taught to work hard for external rewards; education does not make better jobs available), consumerism (the degradation of work; ownership is the ('British dream'), politics and morality ("we have a history of lawlessness in international matters;" "the leaders we elect are immoral and alienated from themselves" and the environment (a pervasive use of problem denial; the alliance of government regulatory bodies and industry), leaving it at the level of a poorly functioning, self-centered one- to three-year-old. This pervasive self-serving attitude is one of the factors which, maintains the incredibly profitable "war against drugs," and the lucrative but ineffective mainstream substance abuse industry.
The approach to substance abuse has been superficial at best because it has avoided dealing adequately with the "underlying cultural pathology, oedipal and preoedipal" "if one wished to bring about sound, stable changes in the drug abuse situation, the basic pathology of our culture should be addressed" But this will not and cannot happen by means of the convention
24

Drumme,

19/12/2007 15:21:00
you seem to miss the point, or awareness, that many of of the current addicts in Scotland today are young people, who became addicts in their teens, when common sense doesn't always abound - that's not an excuse or a defence - but a fact. You also need to be aware of the manipulative, deviant strategies dealers adopt in cultivating their patch and their "customers". Most heroin addicts road to addiction does not begin with injection but smoking heroin. Ask them and the majority will tell you that they did not believe addiction could occurr through smoking. Once hooked they'll be "advised" by their dealers, that injection in "better" because its more "effective" and therefore "better value". Yes, heroin use in the first instance is a choice, but more often than not, not an informed choice, certainly not when the information is supplied by dealers, who purpose in life is to increase their market as big and as fast as they can.

As for China's policy to on drug abuse......are you suggesting that we adopt their policies and maybe their other "humanitarian" practices as well
25

Drumme,

Glasgow 19/12/2007 15:21:23
you seem to miss the point, or awareness, that many of of the current addicts in Scotland today are young people, who became addicts in their teens, when common sense doesn't always abound - that's not an excuse or a defence - but a fact. You also need to be aware of the manipulative, deviant strategies dealers adopt in cultivating their patch and their "customers". Most heroin addicts road to addiction does not begin with injection but smoking heroin. Ask them and the majority will tell you that they did not believe addiction could occurr through smoking. Once hooked they'll be "advised" by their dealers, that injection in "better" because its more "effective" and therefore "better value". Yes, heroin use in the first instance is a choice, but more often than not, not an informed choice, certainly not when the information is supplied by dealers, who purpose in life is to increase their market as big and as fast as they can.

As for China's policy to on drug abuse......are you suggesting that we adopt their policies and maybe their other "humanitarian" practices as well
26

tim1leg,

mcdowall avenue 19/12/2007 15:23:43
conventional approaches because mainstream substance abuse counsellors are not sufficiently educated and trained to work at any but the most superficial levels. I doubt much progress would be made in the "war on drugs" as it was being fought in the pathological US/UK society of the early 90's and present that even if it were successful, "the current official 'enemy number one' would be succeeded and replaced by some other suitable 'enemy,' perhaps terrorism, nuclear war or other"

27

Seaforth,

19/12/2007 15:27:29
Rise of drug, fall in popularity of local fishmongers....coincidence?
28

Drumme,

19/12/2007 15:27:42
Seasider #20

you seem to miss the point, or awareness, that many of of the current addicts in Scotland today are young people, who became addicts in their teens, when "common sense" doesn't always abound - that's not an excuse or a defence - but a fact. You also need to be aware of the manipulative, deviant strategies dealers adopt in cultivating their patch and their "customers". Most heroin addicts road to addiction does not begin with injection but smoking heroin. Ask them and the majority will tell you that they did not believe addiction could occurr through smoking. Once hooked they'll be "advised" by their dealers, that injection in "better" because its more "effective" and therefore "better value". Yes, heroin use in the first instance is a choice, but more often than not, not an informed choice, certainly not when the information is supplied by dealers, who purpose in life is to increase their market as big and as fast as they can.

As for China's policy to on drug abuse......are you suggesting that we adopt their policies and maybe their other "humanitarian" practices as well
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 19/12/2007 16:12:14
#25 A better comparison would be the number of hard core afgan refugee claimants being dumped in Scotland by Westminster.

http://news.scotsman.com/glasgow/Afghan-man-held-hostage-.3598640.jp

These people would like the police and the press to think this was about "gambling" not about the real reason why this incident took place. It was all about heroin and the money it creates.

Methadone is like the "patch" for smokers.
You don't really want to quit but it's something just to get you over the hump.

Why don't we try a new approach to heroin addiction. By opium directly from Afgan farmers and supply it 100% pure at cost to the addicts who have created this major industry. Let them get used to a cheap and plentiful supply provided through a series of goverment sponsored "Health Clinics" and drive all the dealers out of business by destroying any chance to profit of other peoples misery. And then suddenly cut it off. Make sure even your Gran coming back from Majorca, can't get in to Scotland without a cavity search. When the dealers rush in again to flood the Scottish market then you meet them with another blast of Goverment subsidised Heroin. After a couple cycles the dealers(faced with huge loses) will quit the Scottish market for good. A large number of the junkies will also quit using because they cant live with the yoyo of feast or famine.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 19/12/2007 16:28:21
What a miserable revamp of your website. I have been placing provactive comments all day and can still not find a single soul to jump to the bait. The only thing the Hootsman had going for it was the comments section. Certainly not its editorialising masquerading as journalism. Now it has screwed up even that. Good luck to any hope of longevity for the Hootsman, its readership is plummeting faster than Wendy Alexanders credibility.
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Media 1,

cape town 19/12/2007 17:02:03
John Pilinger wrote enough about drugs to convince me that the pendemic will never die whilst governments stand to make millions from the drug industry.
He reminded us in his book "hidden agenda" that America flooded Colombia with more military assistance than any other nation in the world during the Reagan administration. The sale of arms is essential, and America invented a war on drugs. (There will always be a war on something) the new enemy was identified as "narcoguerrilla" They lumped together drug traffickers and nationalist guerrillas and then WASHINGTON dispatched Special Forces on the pretext of fighting the one whilst jailing the other(Britain lended their assistance by sending strategic air services)DRUGS were a very convenient satan for the American war machine, thus they could once again invade Latin America and generate billions in arm sales. Once the American war machine was in full swing, it was followed by contracts, money, new market opportunities and "HEY PRESTO" a wee war to fill the coughers. Whilst all this was happening, the United States remained the largest consumer of illicit drugs in the world, with some 20 million addicts and absolutely NO domestic campaigns against corrupt American authorities and leading traffickers.
The war on drugs was somewhat paradoxical. Whilst Nancy Reagan shouted "just say no" the secret agencies and her husbandS government was saying "YES"
Nothing has changed, and addicts all over the world have no support from their governments. At least, not the sort of help they should be getting~and it will never end
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\seasider,

Saltcoats 19/12/2007 17:24:38
#22
It says a lot for the 'Lovely wee town' when you can in your own words "wander out your front door and score within minutes". I would suggest it would be better if you wandered out to a phone box and reported what you know to the appropriate authorities.
The poppy fields of Afghanistan should be Agent Oranged out of existence. The farmers there existed all right before drugs were in such demand and I daresay the will survive again.
33

Rednose Harry,

Wallasey 19/12/2007 17:25:30
#1 Re new website."If it ain't broke don't fixit!!"Who forgot the adage??
34

Warden An' All, Reborn,

19/12/2007 18:01:51
It is the fact we have such a dependent population, be it on drugs or alcohol, that Scotland hasn't a hope in hell of being able to look after itself outside of the UK. Scots are born dependent, and are only freed from it in death, which is much earlier than our English brothers and sisters.
Btw, as a Scot myself, can I say thank you to the huge number of English voters who helped our Leon to win the X-factor on Saturday night, if the reverse situation had come about I wish I could believe Scotland had grown up enough to have done the same for you, but I couldn't.
35

glaswegian at heart,

U S A 19/12/2007 18:56:57
Iam all for treatment BUT not feeding the habit .I'm sure no one woke up one morning and decided to become a druggie. They made the choice to ''try it''.I made the choice to smoke cigarettes and it took many years and many tries but I did it cold turkey.Like Mark Twain said''quitting smoking is easy I've done it 200 times'' COLD TURKEY IS THE ONLY WAY 'LOCK THEM AWAY SOMEWHERE ANYWHERE .They are criminals!!!
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 19/12/2007 19:04:17
Warden An' All, Reborn: (modified by the censors)I agree we Scots show an unusual propensity towards servile behaior and need, perhaps that is from nuzzeling the socially deprived Barnett nipple for a long, long time creating an establishment of buddy's and boot polishers like yourself. Who cares about who came in first place in the X-factor you boiled meat cerebrum, television watching Jim Henson character.
(Big Brother is that sufficiently toned down for your free speech crushing boot! I am filing a complaint with the European Human Right Commission for your suppresion of free speech. My speech had an opinion and it was provacitive. But i did not break a single moral dictate that has come down from the European Courts. So you will here from my lawyers shortly.)
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Helen,

19/12/2007 19:05:28
I think one of the positives about Methadone is that it isn't injected and is therefore safer to use. Yes we all know that people shouldn't take drugs and while I can understand the lack of sympathy, we need to ask ourselves why people are still taking drugs when they know all the risks. Drug taking needs to become as socially unacceptable as drink driving. I know so many people who think it's ok to have a 'wee smoke'.
Lengthy prison sentences with cold turkey is the only way to go for people who take drugs. They know it's illegal but they do it because they can get away with it. Let's make sure getting away with it isn't an option any more.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 19/12/2007 19:11:52
The Scotsman is home to, C*NTL*CK*RS, A*SEF**KERS and other assorted E*NGLI*HMAN. Why anyone would want to read such a pile of regurgitated bog roll is beyond me.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 19/12/2007 19:17:23
What is offensive is the opinions of boiled cabbages like Warden An' All, Reborn,going unchallenged you pack of Vegimite eating panty waists.
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zenith,

USA 19/12/2007 22:39:44
Methadone maintenance treatment was not intended by it's founders to be a quick fix for heroin addiction. Many people seem to think that the idea behind it is that you go in, take methadone for a few days or weeks in decreasing doses, avoid withdrawals, become drug free, and live a wonderful, drug free life. This is NOT the case. Many people who are addicted to opiates have done permanent damage to their own natural opiate producing system (endorphins). These are the natural chemicals that make us feel good, enable us to enjoy life and feel pleasure, and moderate pain when injured. Without them, we are depressed, we are unable to enjoy anything, we are anxious, restless and exhausted. It is a truly miserable way to live, and most addicts will relapse repeatedly in an effort to stop the agony of such a life. While some addicts ARE able to resume making endorphins after a time, many are not, no matter how long they wait--the damage is permanent and counseling and abstinence do not fix a physical, biochemical problem. Antidepressant medications are not effective against this type of problem--they target different chemicals. For these patients, methadone must be long term--it is not curing the imbalance but merely correcting it, just as insulin replaces chemicals no longer made by a defective pancreas. When it is discontinued, the imbalance returns and the patient relapses, at a rate of about 90% within the first year. So, judging the efficacy of a methadone program by how many people are OFF methadone is like judging the effectiveness of insulin by how many diabetics are off it! Some can get by with just exercise and diet, others have poorer function and need oral diabetic meds, and still others in the worst shape need injectable insulin to control the insufficiency. Like insulin, opiates are a naturally occurring substance in the human body--our brains have specific opiate receptor sites for this reason. In this sense, everyone is "dependent" on natural opiates to
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celticsnowdrop,

greenock 19/12/2007 22:44:31
lets be clear about this, without the so called junkies we would have mass unemployment as the social work,drug teams,community halls,doctors nurses, carers, taxi drivers, drug barons, govement etc would all be out of work. Now we all know that when everything is not well with goverment they bring up a discussion about the pros and cons of the poor wee drug addict.....personally we first need to sterilise them, making sure that we do not continue with the pain of addiction....( me being compassionate ) secondly put them in a place to get them off drugs....say for 3 months.......all the money saved could pay for the patients with Alzheimers or even give the carers a rise on their big 48 pounds a week or......pay them the same rate of money paid to junkies , alcoholics etc......I have seen families destroyed through drugs......stop this ......OH POOR ME SYNDROME.........they had a choice and we as tax payers also have a choice.......bloody nanny state......decent people are trying so hard to stop another generation of addicts and the holier than thou numpties are making the job harder........I truly dispair of Scotland........pay junkies to stay on illegal drugs and force smokers outside in the cold for a wee puff of a legal substance.....PLEASE TELL ME THERE IS SENSE IN ALL OF THIS......oh and I dont smoke.....cant afford to............and as for a wee ISLAND ,I AM SURE DONALD TRUMP WILL FIND A PLACE AND WORK FOR THEM ALL AS A TRIBUTE TO HIS ANCESTERS......
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zenith,

USA 19/12/2007 22:45:05
Oh, and by the way--we have "lengthy prison sentences with cold turkey" here in the states. It doesn't work. Our drug use is higher than ever. Addiction is a chemical disease of the brain--you cannot "scare" or "punish" someone out of having it. Addicted people relapse, even after horrible experineces, losing things dear to them, being imprisoned, etc, because the misery and desperation of feeling the way they do with this horribly screwed up brain chemistry is even worse than all those other things. Many commit suicide rather than face the alternative. It is a MEDICAL problem, not a criminal one.

In addition, we have had quite a few folks die recently in our jails from this great "cold turkey" you speak of. That'll teach 'em, huh?
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zenith,

USA 19/12/2007 22:51:33
And that "wee puff" of a legal substance has killed far more people than heroin, methadone, or any other drug mentioned here. It causes respiratory problems in children exposed to it, and would never be approved for use today had it just been discovered, but because such a huge number of people are addicted to it, the government is afraid to take it away from the addicts who depend on that "wee puff" to stay sane themselves.

How anyone can justify THAT deadly drug is beyond me. DStopping cigarette use is far easier than stopping heroin use, and kills far more people every year than all illicit drugs combined, and does harm to those exposed to it. Prisoners in prisons that do not allow it do desperate things for just a single ciggarette. Yet these people feel free to look down their noses at those with illicit drug habits, because their deadly, obnoxious, disgusting, foul habit is LEGAL. Please.
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celticsnowdrop,

19/12/2007 23:07:15
well Zenith, as you say those poor people may commit suicide....that may be so in the great USA but let me tell you I personally know loads of addicts and I wish I was as well looked after by the state.....sorry but throwing good money at them only encourages them.....I have seen young mothers walk because they cant afford a bus and drug addict getting taxis......and another thing their families are more liable to commit suicide. Every day where I live you see the zombies all walk down the road for their methadone ....easily recognised by the tracksuit( most expensive on the market ) no teeth in their heads hardly a piece of fat on their body and walking the usual staffie dog to protect them........and.......I watch the pain in their mother and fathers faces as each look at their children and wish they were dead so that the misery at both ends stop.........how hard must it be to love your kids enough to wish them dead..........I KNOW HOW MANY WOULD WISH THAT THEIR KIDS SMOKED CIGARETTES..at least they are legal and as too date i know of no one who has killed for a cig
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zenith,

USA 20/12/2007 04:16:38
That's the POINT, though--they do not HAVE to kill for a cigg because it is LEGAL. In prison, where it is ILLEGAL to smoke, people actually have died over tobacco. Are you truly telling me that as a parent you would prefer your child die of lung cancer or emphysema than be a functional, law abiding, healthy, employed, bill paying citizen who happens to take methadone, because this FAR more dangerous drug, tobacco, which is FAR more likely to kill them (opiates are basically a benign drug outside of the danger of overdose), is LEGAL? I have watched three of my close family members die of lung cancer. One of them, after being diagnosed, wept bitterly--we thought it was because of her diagnosis and impending death. But no--she was worried that the doctor would not allow her to smoke in the hospital. She smoked right up until she died--saying "It relaxes me". Certainly no irrational behaviors associated with smoking, now, are there?

Even saying that, the great majority of addicts would not murder to get their drugs. I was addicted to opiates for twenty years and I never murdered or physically hurt anyone, never robbed anyone, never prostituted myself, etc.

And again, in the USA most clinics are private pay--the patients have JOBS--they work and pay their bills themselves. No one is paying for their taxicabs or anything else.

Where do you get this "zombie" fantasy of yours? Do they lumber along with arms outstretched yelling "Brains! Must eat more brains!"? Are they drooling? Incapable of human speech? What? And if so, how do you explain the discrepancy between your local zombies and the people at my clinic who work all day, tend their families, pay their bills, and buy their own "track suits"?
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PurpleFairy,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 13:48:24
42. Zenith

"And again, in the USA most clinics are private pay--the patients have JOBS--they work and pay their bills themselves. No one is paying for their taxicabs or anything else."

So would you agree then that being addicted to Methadone is no reason to be signed off work and handed money / housing / other benefits? I am sure that if we the taxpayers did not have to pay for the up keep of these addicts the annoyance of people like those who comment on this board would drop significantly.

I don't know exactly how it works in the US , but in Scotland addiction is grounds to be medically signed off work indefinitely, which entitles the addict to various benefits and an entourage of Social Workers. It is the medical profession who make the decision that someone on Methadone is not fit to work. So either the medical profession is right and they are not fit to work, which makes your statement redundant or you are right and they are fit to work. If it is the latter then perhaps you should understand that you are looking at the situation from a US point of view and the situation is very different in Scotland. If they are fit to work then they should work, here they do not.

Having come from the North East of Scotland I have known several prescription Methadone users . . . I have never known of a single one paying a penny towards their treatment.

As a footnote the smoking argument is pointless (though I realise you did not "start it") - yes smoking is stupid and kills more people than heroin . . . however more people smoke cigarettes than take heroin. Perhaps a statistic that shows the actual perecentage of smokers who die from smoking v's the percentage of heroin users who die from heroin. Added to the fact that most of those who die from overdoses are a lot younger . . . I would rather have my child die in their 60's from lung cancer than in their teens through an overdose (though of course neither would be desirable!)
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PurpleFairy,

Edinburgh 20/12/2007 14:39:30
46 was meant to be a reply to 45 not 42.
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Roy Robertson,

Edinburgh University 21/12/2007 09:06:36
It is extemely disappointing to read this article which so seriously misrepresents an important treatment. Not only is methadone a valuable and life saving treatment but it repreents a critical public health strategy for preventing the spread of blood borne viruses. It is perhaps one of the best evaluated treatments used in General Practice and hospital medicine and contrary to the messages in the Scotsman, on this and other occasions, is a safe treatment when used properly. It is not, as the author suggests primarily used to wean patients off heroin but a very effective measure which is used instead of heroin over a long period of rehabilitation and lifestyle improvement. there is essentially no need for individuals to stop taking this cheap effective substitue unless there is absolutely no chance of relapse. The new drugs strtaegy will, hopefully recognise the many strengths of this approach to treatment and the relatively poor results from other non pharmacological interventions.

 

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