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Islamists killed my husband because he had converted to Christianity – widow



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Published Date: 16 April 2008
A BRITISH teacher killed in Somalia was targeted because he had converted from Islam to Christianity, his widow claimed yesterday.
Daud Hassan Ali, 64, was shot in the early hours of Monday outside a school his charity had just finished building.

A British colleague, Rehana Ahmed, 33, and two Kenyan teachers were also killed in the attack on Hiran English School, in Beled-Wey
ne, central Somalia, about 190 miles north-west of the capital, Mogadishu. All four were reportedly shot in the head.

The Islamist al-Shabab Movement, the armed youth-wing of the Council of Islamic Courts movement, has admitted attacking the town, but it has not accepted responsibility for the killings.

Mr Ali's widow, Margaret, 64, said her husband had been targeted by Islamists who, she said, "believe it is OK to kill any man who was born into Islam and left the faith".

She said her husband knew it was a risk going back to Somalia as a Christian, but said he was there to teach, not convert others to his faith. "He was a teacher. He never made any attempt to convert anyone to Christianity, and only practised his faith in private," she said. "I just hope they died quickly and didn't suffer too much. But I hear their bodies are riddled with bullet holes."





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  • Last Updated: 15 April 2008 9:49 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Somalia & Somaliland
 
1

truthsleuth,

16/04/2008 00:52:56
Just what asre these Islamists.
Do they believe their religion/faith is so weak they have to take such drastic measures to be sure they keep the faithfull.
2

truthsleuth,

16/04/2008 00:53:37
Will they be suing the Somali government for compensation.
3

Harry Schell,

CA USA 16/04/2008 02:29:58
Well, this surely is the work of the tolerant and peaceful emissaries of Allah the merciful and peaceful.

Islam is the religion of peace because so many know true peace through its works...they are dead.

Hint to the killers: look in a dictionary for the word "irony".

Personally, I don't think your ultimate meeting with Allah is going to be anything like what you expect, you slimeballs. A murderer is a murderer is a murderer.
4

Dáithí,

San Jose 16/04/2008 05:34:34
Hey, where is all of the BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) posters at? Defending the Chinese? Where are all of the radical Islam apologists?

Is there a Worker's Party Meeting somewhere tonight that has taken them away from their keyboards? Is there a junior communist club meeting at college? A Pol Pot fan club reunion? A Chairman Mao memorial club meeting?

I'm sure they are avoiding this story like the plague, just like they usually do. Pathetic lot, really.
5

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16/04/2008 05:55:38
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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta; . CA.....a place in the Sun 16/04/2008 06:00:51
#5 contd:

in this country.

They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and good Americans.

Call it what you wish; it's still the truth.

You had better believe it.

The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.

And Barack Hussein Obama, a child Muslim, wants to be our President?

You HAVE to be kidding?! Wake up America!

Obama even says if he wins the election, he will
be sworn in on the Quran (Koran)---not the Bible!


So ponder my shroom words of wisdom of non-wisdom; copied

Happy Stupidity Day dudes and dudesses

GC
7

Conan,

Honduras 16/04/2008 07:41:05
Islam started as, continued as, and will remain a dangerous and manipulative movement (it is not a religion). It has resulted in great damage and misery everywhere it has taken root. The killing of this man is but one daily manifestatin of the need to ban this movement - just as the Germans so wisely banned Nazism after WW2. Tell me of another 'religion' these days that sanctions the murder of 'non-believers', or or people whose only crime was to think for themselves?
8

Iain's,

16/04/2008 08:30:42
The Koran makes no bones about it.

Apostates must be killed.

(Not a lot of Christian charity in Islam is there?)
9

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 08:43:29
Just to remind the usual suspects on here that folk were being murdered in Northern Ireland for being Catholic or Protestant. And some folk fae the US even raised funds to encourage it.

5

So what is a good American these days then ya wee fakey septic?? a White Anglo Saxon protestant neocon??
Or a beer swilling red necked gun totting station waggon driving bacca chewing brain dead follower of Christian extremism??
Or even a manipulative zionist extremist Islamaphobe??

Would any of these fit the bill??
10

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16/04/2008 08:45:16
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11

Conan,

Honduras 16/04/2008 08:55:54
Take of the mask #9 - we all know you're Guga.
12

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 09:33:34
10

Unlike Christianity Judaism Hindi Buddism eh??

Religion works and is positive for those who believe in it not for those who dont.

Ignorance= Evil.

11

No mask I only ever post with one name at a time.
13

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 09:38:48
4

Daithi you are a prime example of a BDS poster.
Apparently the symtoms apply more to the supporters of Bush than it does to his opponants.
14

Stu_R_20,

16/04/2008 10:05:14
#12
I couldn't care less about other religions, I'm talking explicitly about Islam. Other religions have modernised Islam has not!
15

Moreen,

Scotsdale, AZ 16/04/2008 10:42:27
#13 Foulkes Off the CyberNat

Looks like you have been eating GC's mushrooms, they cause hate and paranoia.
16

oder,

Scotland 16/04/2008 11:06:07
"Let there be no compulsion in religion, for truth stands out from error"

Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:
Narrated 'Ikrima:

Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

Bukhari (83:37) - "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."

Bukhari (84:57) - "[In the words of] Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

9 Foulkes Off the CyberNat,Edinburgh

was the killing in Northern Ireland ordained by Jesus or any of his Apostles? what "Christian" scripture could you refer me to other than the Old Testement (not Christian) or the Torah! that is similar to the above!

like all fundamental atheists who play down the excesses of Islam ,and use the argument all "religions are the same" you imply in your post @9 this is the case,is this then your assumption? or have you studied all the different religions to reach this conclusion?
17

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 11:07:58
14

Modernised?? the catholic church disnae allow safe sex Female priests gay marriage nor abortion. I dont know how the other religions feel about modern issues but I remember the response given to the gay rights parade in Israel recently by the "Moderate" Jewish faith.
How does the Jewish Hindu and Buddist faiths deal with contraception abortion and female members???

15

Speaking from experiance no doubt.
18

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 11:14:05
16

I dont know I wasnt involved with the killings myself.

There are a sh*t load of texts in the New testaments that make yer quotes from above look like they were written by an 8 year old girl guide.

Why have you exempted the Old Testament both the Torah and the Bible are fundamentally based on it.
You obviously know how bad it is even compared to the Quaran.

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/BibleQuotes.htm
19

oder,

Scotland 16/04/2008 13:33:06
18 Foulkes Off the CyberNat,Edinburgh 16

you said

There are a sh*t load of texts in the New testaments that make yer quotes from above look like they were written by an 8 year old girl guide.

my quotes? you do not recognise the Koran? the Hadith the sura`s?, obviously little point in trying serious debate with you!




20

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 14:03:13
19

Why do folk like you insist on dragging all of this religious quotation crap out every time there is a hint of an Islamic story to comment on???
The Quaran is no better nor worse than the Bible and Torah for inflamatory religious statements. What possible point is it you think yer making??
Islamic extremist politicians hijack Islam to further their own ends our politicians hijack democracy and capitalism to further theirs.
None of them represent anything other than themselves.
Its all meaningless dogma.
But I suspect you already know this youre just dragging all this p*sh up to feed yer own sick biggotry.
21

Black Beard,

16/04/2008 14:54:41
Enlighten us with quotes from the New Testament that sanction murder in any way please.
22

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 15:01:00
21

Why are you incapable of googling fur answers yersell??
try typing something like new testament murderous quotations or murderous quotations found in the new testament or new testament encourages murder etc etc.
23

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 15:01:57
22

Or better still try reading the phucking thing.
24

Hickory,

US 16/04/2008 15:22:27
Well now, Obama converted. What do the Islamists have to say about that? Or, did he really convert?
25

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 15:40:14
24

Who cares?? Bush converted from a drunken junkie to a born again muppet and he won 2 terms.
If this moron can make president then I am sure its possible even for you or an Islamic Obama.
26

P.K,

16/04/2008 15:58:16
GC, oder

Terrific quotes! Truth coming out from the Islamic verses itself, what have been taught centuries ago as printed in the Koran and the old age past practice have still been carried on to this day by the Islamists. On the other hand, the Old Testament has long been considered outdated; irrelevant to the Christian's way of life and no longer accepted by its followers in practice today.
27

mike - across the pond,

foulkes.... 16/04/2008 16:19:23
why would we drag out ISLAMIC scripture when MUSLIMS commit what in any other context would be a CRIME, and in most of the world a CAPITAL crime????

gee I wonder... because the MUSLIMS that commit these crimes run for the cover of their ISLAMIC SCRIPTURE... sharia law... and the uber-left want to defend that protection.... and sycophants like YOU are all too ready to pick up the standard in some misguided attempt to defend those who would "put you to the question" without remorse...

please cite a single MODERN judeo-christian example where a crime of any sort was successfully defended in a court of law with the defense was "it says (blah-blah-blah) in the (bible/koran/torah)" you see... WE have become "modernized"... that doesnt mean we will not have disagreements and discourse over such matters as abortion & lifestyle choices. our legal systems are, for the most part, insulated from our THEOLOGIES.

oh and I will not attempt to defend the judicial actions of 3rd world judges... I have a hard enough time defending the uber-left judges here in america.....

In any case, I doubt you can find one....

And WHERE are the Iranian sycophants? I so feel like rapping a few of their knuckles over this kind of stuff...
28

Geomac 1,

16/04/2008 16:35:17
Sad and SICK - if I were a Muslim I'd be ashamed at what is being done in the name of their precious religion.
How dare they demand that we alter our laws to suit their needs when they allow this sort of thing to be done in the name of Allah
29

Andyq,

16/04/2008 17:16:40
Geomac, 28, These murderers are the true believers, in that they take their religious texts literally. Moderates are people who find large parts of their own precious religion, ie what is written in the Koran, Bible etc, so abhorrent, that they choose to ignore large parts of the texts.
Thomas Jefferson, one of the American Founding Fathers, produced the "Jefferson Bible", the bible with all the nasty bits removed, a considerably smaller tome than the original!
Religion poisons everything.
30

Dave Scott,

St Albans 16/04/2008 17:22:00
If we seem to be reaching an impasse when it comes to varieties of justice according to religions then why don't we try killers according to the faith they espouse. If they people no mercy why should they expect it?

Most Christians I know are saddened when someone 'leaves the faith' but that's the nature of love and free will.
It appears that there is some very heavy 'policing' within some branches of Islam with an automatic death penalty.

I think we're mugs when we confuse liberty with licence and let people get away with murder. Liberty is (was?) a hard-fought prize and it needs a certain discipline to sustain it. Sad really, looks like we're throwing it away.

#6: Is that true about Obama and the Q'ran?
31

Dave Scott,

St Albans 16/04/2008 17:24:42
typo: If people show no mercy why should they expect it
32

Dave Scott,

St Albans 16/04/2008 17:26:07
from http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_Obama_sworn_into_office_with_a_Koran


Was Obama sworn into office with a Koran?
In: Islam, Urban Legends, Political Office Holders

Barack Obama Swore in on a Bible

In an attempt to smear Barack Obama it has been reported that he swore in on a Quran. This has been part of a larger attempt to demonize Obama among those who fear Muslims. The story is a complete fabrication.

Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison is the congressman who swore in on the Koran. Barack Obama is a Christian, and he took the Oath of Office on a Bible.
33

John Blackley,

Florida 16/04/2008 18:03:40
I know a couple - and correspond with many - Muslims who are sad, sick and weary of what is done in the name of their religion. They're also fearful of the number of people who are unable to distinguish between those who abuse Islam for their political ends and those who quietly practice its teachings in their everyday lives.

I hope that more people become educated on the difference between these two categories because, if not, then many innocent, well-meaning and good people of the Muslim faith are going to suffer.
34

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 16/04/2008 18:11:41
Dáithí,San Jose ..#4

You didn't have to wait long. He crawled out of the woodwork.
35

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16/04/2008 18:36:58
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oder,

Scotland 16/04/2008 19:26:25
you said

"But I suspect you already know this youre just dragging all this p*sh up to feed yer own sick biggotry"

Now what you need to do is look at the headline of the article! it says

Islamists killed my husband because he had converted to Christianity – widow

leaving the faith of Islam is to be apostate a death sentence! justifying any Muslim taking the life of human being because of his religious belief!

the Muslims who killed this teacher were only carrying out God`s command as handed down through his prophet Mohammed in the Qua`ran (would suggest that if your actually going discuss Islam take the time to learn about it.)

if being opposed to a dogma/religion that sanctions killing a person because of his preference to choose his own faith! makes me a bigot, then what else can I be? and by your own argument that makes you an excuser/ apologist for these criminals that carried out this crime no matter how deluded they are, they have an excuse.....as commanded by God!....whats yours?


37

oder,

Scotland 16/04/2008 19:33:15
35 Infidel,Dar ul harb

yes! they have last couple of weeks prevented posters
commenting on anything Islamic/Israeli, PC more important to this rag than freedom of expression.
38

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 20:01:21
Phuq me have I stumbled onto the full moon Irgun rabid zionist islamaphobe cult site or are we still on the Scotsman forum??

27

What the phuq are you slavering about?? just because some headjob commits a crime in the name of a religion doesnt implicate the whole religion in that crime does it??
Crimes are committed by individuals not by institutions.
Are any of you responsible for the crimes committed by the Stern gang or Irgun??? how about the IRA or the UDA.
Is it to be guilt by association then?? in that case the whole world is guilty of criminal behaviour.
Phuqing morons!!!
39

57Nomad,

california 16/04/2008 21:36:17
#27 Foff

Foff said:

"Modernised?? the catholic church disnae allow safe sex Female priests gay marriage nor abortion."

I don't think you're catching the important point here. If you are a Catholic and you: get divorced, have an abortion, use a condom, etc., the priest gives you absolution and some prayers to say for penance.

Contrast this with the people with whom you are trying to create a moral equivalence. In one, the Christian faith, you sin, you repent, you are forgiven (over and over again). In the other, you sin, you are killed.

One forgives, the other kills. Is this equivalent?
40

oder,

scotland 16/04/2008 21:38:48
38 Foulkes Off the CyberNat,Edinburgh

"Irgun rabid zionist islamaphobe cult site or are we still on the Scotsman forum??"

you were say about slavering?

"some headjob commits a crime in the name of a religion doesnt implicate the whole religion"

its not the headjob that's the problem its the instruction manual (the Koran) the headjob reads and obeys it thats the problem,and it does implicate the whole religion, terrorist extremists and moderates all read from the same hymn sheet,how can all three read it differently,suggest you take time to read it.


So youre excuse is you are a moron?...OKAY if you say so!

41

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Gina Gibson,

Wales 18/04/2008 11:23:50
Religion is a boil on the A R S E of humanity!
43

SeriouslyAmused,

Ayr 18/04/2008 12:12:03
6 GalacticCannibal,Murrieta

You really do come out with some p'sh sometimes. Obama isn't even Muslim, FFS. He's a Christian, you dopehead.
44

Silence of the Yams,

18/04/2008 13:44:53
42. Islam is the boil. A festering boil at that!
45

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 18/04/2008 19:09:19
Islam seems to attract all the nutters!

What an utterly horrible and violent religion - I hope all followers of this trouble making movement hang their heads in shame about the disruption, death and inequality they are supporting.
46

CombatVet68,

New Babylon 18/04/2008 23:13:33
For many centuries now, historically speaking, blind men, desiring to further their own desires, have used many diffeent religions and God, the great "I AM", as their justification or authority to kill their fellow man. The crusaders did it when they murdered both Jews and muslims! The Catholics did it during the great inquisition! The Ku Klux Klan used the cloak of their religion to murder and subjegate (sic) helpless blacks. And of course, the illiterate and poorly educated majority of those who follow the 'Quran do it in the name of their false god.

In Somalia, the blind "demon" leades who follow the prince of this world (Satan), recruit young boys, give them weapons, drugs, and modest training, to go about slaughtering people by the thousands in the name of Allah, the god of the underworld. Sadly, the jaws of Hell enlarges itself in preparation of their arrival, as it has done with those who commit murder in the name of their god.

The world will continue to endure the slaughter of the innocents by these zealous and blind servants of the evil one, for but a short time longer. For just as a fish is drawn into the boat by the hook of the fisherman, so too will these evil men be drawn by the hundreds of thousands into the vlley of slaughter by the Lord of Hosts. It it then that HE will utterly destroy them. The blood of the slain will stand so deep that it will rise to the height of a horse's bridle! The birds and beasts of the fields will feast upon their rotting flesh. It will take seven months just to bury the dead. In all of this, the One True God, the Lord God Jehovah, will be glorified, for He will make war against them. May all glory and praise be His!
47

CombatVet68,

New Babylon 18/04/2008 23:19:33
For many centuries now, historically speaking, blind men, desiring to further their own desires, have used many diffeent religions and God, the great "I AM", as their justification or authority to kill their fellow man. The crusaders did it when they murdered both Jews and muslims! The Catholics did it during the great inquisition! The Ku Klux Klan used the cloak of their religion to murder and subjegate (sic) helpless blacks. And of course, the illiterate and poorly educated majority of those who follow the 'Quran do it in the name of their false god.

In Somalia, the blind "demon" leaders who follow the prince of this world (Satan), recruit young boys, give them weapons, drugs, and modest training, to go about slaughtering people by the thousands in the name of Allah, the god of the underworld. Sadly, the jaws of Hell enlarges itself in preparation of their arrival, as it has done with those who commit murder in the name of their god.

The world will continue to endure the slaughter of the innocents by these zealous and blind servants of the evil one, for but a short time longer. For just as a fish is drawn into the boat by the hook of the fisherman, so too will these evil men be drawn by the hundreds of thousands into the vlley of slaughter by the Lord of Hosts. It is then that HE will utterly destroy them. The blood of the slain will stand so deep that it will rise to the height of a horse's bridle! The birds and beasts of the fields will feast upon their rotting flesh. It will take seven months just to bury the dead. In all of this, the One True God, the Lord God Jehovah, will be glorified, for He will make war against them. May all glory and praise be His!

 

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