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Recorded crime rate falls to 25-year-low



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Published Date: 30 September 2008
JUSTICE secretary Kenny MacAskill today welcomed a fall in recorded crime in Scotland to its lowest level in a quarter of a century.
Official figures today showed there were almost 34,000 fewer crimes recorded last year – down 8% on the previous year's figures.

Violent crime, including murder and attempted murder, is down along with drugs offences.

All eight police forces sh
owed a decrease in the number of crimes recorded in 2007/08 compared to 2006/07.

"I welcome this evidence that there were tens of thousands fewer crimes and so tens of thousands fewer victims during our first year in government," Mr MacAskill said today.

"However, we're committed to taking the action needed to drive down crime for the long term, not just for one year.

"We now have more police officers in Scotland than ever before and are directly funding 1,000 additional police officers with the first 150 already hitting the beat across the country."

The figures today showed that the number of recorded crimes dropped by 8% across the country to 385,509 in 2007/08 – the lowest number recorded since 1980.

The number of non-sexual violent crimes dropped by 9% to 12,874, with crimes of dishonesty falling for the ninth consecutive year to stand at 166,718 cases in 2007/08 – a 9% drop on the previous year.

Recorded cases of vandalism, which includes fire-raising, fell by 9% to 118,025 last year.

The number of sexual crimes fell 3% to 6,726, with rape and attempted rape down 6% to 1,053.

Drugs offences were down 4% to 40,746, while crimes of handling an offensive weapon were down 11% to 8,989.

The introduction of legislation last year making it illegal to solicit for the purposes of prostitution has seen crimes in this area more than double from 77 to 187.

Drunkenness has also increased marginally.

Mr MacAskill also said there would be no let up in the Government's "blitz on bevvy and blades" with investment of nearly £200,000 to tackle gang culture.

He added: "We're also tackling the underlying causes of crime – drink, drugs and deprivation – and I recently outlined bold plans to tackle alcohol misuse, while Parliament endorsed our new drugs strategy.
"We are supporting police in tackling illegal drug supplies and smashing criminal gangs through the Serious Organised Crime Taskforce that I set up to ensure co-ordinated action is taken against those who prey on our communities."

Today's figures also indicate the clear-up rate for all recorded crimes in 2007/08 is up slightly at 48%.

The clear-up rate in 2007/08 for non-sexual crimes of violence is higher than in 2006/07, increasing from 60% to 62%.



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  • Last Updated: 30 September 2008 1:36 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Upandunder,

30/09/2008 14:54:56
What a joke!

The other year some ned tw*t took his key or some sharp object to my car bonnet. Thanks, pal.

I didn't bother calling the police - because a previous time some local wasters were messing with parked cars I phoned the police and they didn't even bother to send anyone round.

I don't blame the police - it's the fault of trendy left politicians who have turned sentencing into a meaningless charade.

Sentencing for youths and jobless offenders is so soft these days it's not even worth hoping for a conviction.
Only the other day some waster was in court for "breach of a community order". His sentence? Another community order! How he must have laughed.

But a skint pensioner not paying her council tax? Prison!!!!

GET THIS MR POLITICIAN: If some drunk ned scumbag threw a bottle at me, I'd duck and carry on my journey. Why? Because going through all the legal hassle before seeing him smirk at me in a courtroom at a meaningless sentence like a community order would make me feel even worse. If, however, he was to get five years hard labour I'd be much happier.

But "Oh no no no, you can't dooo that" says little Mr and Miss drippy-nose Guardian reader.
2

The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

30/09/2008 14:55:18
These sorts of figures get derided no matter who is in government.

For many people crime is a reality not the fabricated statistics that the police and politicians manipulate.
3

The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

30/09/2008 14:57:02
#6 I understand exactly wher you are coming from -. I was subject to an assault in the street a number of years back but was told by the police that there was nothing they could do because there were no witnesses - even though I knew who had committed the crime.
4

Brad,

Glasgow 30/09/2008 15:24:18
I think the British Crime Survey (based on interviews of people - not polis stats) has been saying similar things.
5

Alan B,

30/09/2008 15:46:51
#6 Agree.

Petty crime is rife. Had my car vandalised 3 times over the last few yrs just sitting outside the house. Once they stole the stearing wheel. The last time a few months ago someone decided to smash the wing side mirror (payment side so no car) off.

There is little point in reporting anything as little will and can be done.
6

edimck,

Edinburgh 30/09/2008 15:47:15
So how come we have such a problem with overcrowded prisons then? Surely the pressure on them should be reducing?
7

Alan B,

30/09/2008 15:47:29
#Independent like everyone else,

Are you for real.
8

Vincent-W,

30/09/2008 15:47:50
The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON)& Upandunder,

You are both right, up to a point. Most of us can cite crimes which have occurred but not been reported, but the reality is that the proportions of non-reported to reported crime are relatively stable, with a significant correlation. There a drop in recorded crime is typically representative of a drop in all crime.

A big problem I have is that the media distort crime figures and can create a climate of fear. This has been proven recently with the massively increased reporting on knife crime which has been remarkably stable for years. But now everyone is feared of knofe crime. Equally we hear many reports of the relatively few number of cases where members of the public get hurt intervening - but what the media doesn't publicize is the thousands of instances where such intervention has been successful - again they create a climate of fear. It's like the way the media has frightened older people into their homes over the past 30 years. Papers only want the 'juicey' stories - unless you work for the Sunday Post.

The reason the crime stats are down are complex and due to the time lag between action and results are probably attributable to actions taken over the past 3 to 5 years, naturally we are all pleased that the new administration are continuing the good work and honing the tactics.

Upandunder - this is where I believe your analysis to be so wrong - sentencing has indeed been harsher or at least more consistent - why do you think that our prisons are so overcrowded when recorded crime is going down? I think even you can be be convinced that the perpetrators of un-recorded crime are not being jailed for their unrecorded crimes? No, given that there is less recorded crime and yet more prisoners there is only one conclusion - that the average sentence served is increasing.

Brad's point underlines that things are improving.
9

Allan(handofgod137),

30/09/2008 15:50:09
#1,3,4 ect You really are a nugget aren't you, this would be the same Canna McHalfwit who was on radio Scotland last week praising himself despite the fact that the sherrif in perth was critical of the fact that he couldn't send a convicted fraudster to jail because of prison over crowding. I would however put my support firmly behind any bill which disenfranchised idiots like yourself.
10

Alan B,

30/09/2008 15:54:31
#Vincent-W

"but the reality is that the proportions of non-reported to reported crime are relatively stable"

How can you say that. The fact it is unreported means no one will know whether it is stable or not.

As for sentencing. Sentencing in Scotland is alot less in Scotland under labour than down south. The snp are unlikely to reverse that.
11

Alan B,

30/09/2008 16:00:12
#Vincent-W

The thing you have overlooked in your analsys regarding sentencing is what sentences the public want for specific crimes. Yes the media highlight things. But the underlying issue is many of public do not feel serious crimes are punished hard enough.

The whole concept of a life sentence has become a lie. It is not a life sentence at all. Probation used to mean that you got out early for showing that you had reformed eg good behaviour. Now it is simple an autonatic early release system so that headline sentencing times are nothing like the time someone will actually serve.

The fact that the media can highlight people getting short sentences for murder or attempted murder etc make the public just no believe in the system.
12

Vincent-W,

30/09/2008 16:01:27
Alan B,

Simple - the British Crime Survey is an example of how unrecorded crime is measured. You then compare that figure with the recorded crime and - bingo! - correlation!!!

Sorry but I don't understand your second point - can you help me?
13

Vincent-W,

30/09/2008 16:17:02
Alan,

"The fact that the media can highlight people getting short sentences for murder or attempted murder etc make the public just no believe in the system."

The key phrase is "that the media can highlight" that's my point the media highlight certain instances when it can make a story. 'Undersentencing' is nothing new.

Scottish figures:-

1989 - prison pop. 5000 - rec. crimes 478,000
2008 - prison pop. 8000 - rec. crimes 400,000

So that's your theory blown out the water - 60% more prisoners from 16% less recorded crimes.
14

Alan B,

30/09/2008 16:39:30
#21 Vincent-W

Do not really understand what you are trying to prove.

How does it blow my theory out the water?

My point is some people believe sentences are too short for serious crimes.

Lets put it this way. How many people that get a life sentence serve a life sentence? (life meaning life).

What do the poeple should be considered the appropriate punishment for murder, for attempted murder, for serious drug dealers, for rape, for armed robbery, for organised crime etc. And what sentences are actually served.

Is probation seriously about time of for showing you have been rehabilitated and not just an automatic early release? I do not think so.

How can someone who takes drugs inside then get early release? Why are drugs reportedly widely available inside?

On petty crime. I do not know if it is higher or lower now that say a decade ago. However it does not seem like it is lower as from personal experience my car has been vandalised 3 times on the last few yrs in an area that seems pretty good.

As such while it may be marginally better or worse it just seem pretty bad.



15

Alan B,

30/09/2008 16:44:59
#22

Labour have been claiming reduced crime too for ages.

I quite like KM but you cannot seriously attribute a lowering of crime to a 25yr low to one yr in power.

The fact is many people now will not bother to report petty crime. If you do report crime little seems to happen.
16

Vincent-W,

30/09/2008 16:53:14
Alan,

Sorry wrong target - but correct weapon!!

Check out the Scottish Government Publications - Life Sentence Prisoners in Scotland. There are some startling FACTS on sentencing rather than the garbage we get fed in the press.
17

Bejjy,

30/09/2008 16:53:42
#22 Independent like everyone else,

Have you not come across the old adage; lies, damned lies and statistics? My guess is that these figures are not a true reflection of actual crime in Scotland but are purely the number of crimes that have been recorded by the police. I think most people know of someone who has been a victim of crime but has not reported the crime to the police for one reason or another.
18

Vincent-W,

30/09/2008 16:59:49
Bejjy,

Statistics never lie - it's how they are interpreted.

Independant statisticians correlate recorded and non recorded crime and tell us it's going down. How the politicians claim credit for it or try to establish bogus 'causal links' is different.

FACT - RECORDED CRIME IS DOWN.

Keep up with the thread will you?
19

Brad,

Glasgow 30/09/2008 17:24:50
#27, as is all crime reported to researchers who ask actual people' about actual crime. The BCS isn't affected by non-reporting to the police - but the downward trend is the same. See: http://tinyurl.com/6evkvc (only for E&W but I doubt it's much different in Scotland).

Too many people must be reading the Daily Mail. Still, keeps them off the streets, causing trouble...
20

Media 1,

cape town 30/09/2008 18:25:09
Under the act of union it will be possible to continue reducing the crime rate.
21

Dogandgoldfish,

30/09/2008 18:54:41

WHY O WHY have people stopped reporting crime??

Is it to make politicians look good?? I think not

Is it because it is a waste of a phone call??
because nothing is done about it I think so
22

Eric D,

Scotland 30/09/2008 19:29:27
Crime is always lower during times of economic growth ,as for the stats the affirmative word here is RECORDED.

For several reasons police statistics do not provide a good indicator of actual crime.

1. Victims may not report or be aware of the crime, in addition reporting might be self incriminating.

2. Research suggests rape and assault is under reported.

3. Even when a crime is reported it might not be recorded. This occurs after police enquiries have deemed a crime was not committed.

4. Certain petty offences are not recorded.

I suspect the black arts of spin doctoring here.

Of course , Rape , murder and assault are amongst the highest in Europe as is all violent crime.

Source : European Source book of crime and criminal justice statistics - 2006

http://www.europeansourcebook.org/esb3_Full.pdf (pp25)
23

Vincent-W,

30/09/2008 21:29:26
Eric D,

I'll make the point again - the British Crime Survey is an example of how unrecorded crime is measured. You then compare that figure with the recorded crime and - bingo! - correlation!!! the indicator is actually rather good - not an accurate measure of actual crime committed - but a fairly constant proportion of crime committed. And when we are talking about a fall from about 480,000 to 380,000 that's not just down to folk not bothering!

answering your questions:-

1. was ever so - no change from the past to now.
2. was ever so - but the indicators are that the proportion is up slightly
3. so if Eric D the halucinating human goes in to report a non existant crime - the police are duty bound to record it as a crime?
4. no change from before

apples are being compared to apples.

Scotland is a violent country and always has been - cultural you know - but it's going down!


24

somerferg,

perth 01/10/2008 00:43:21

Interesting and good news - indicates a country that now has something to look forward to i.e. having an SNP government who are working their best to sort out the systemic social/economic/cultural/political problems that have held Scotland back. The sooner Wasteminster is given its marching orders the better the news will become.
25

Brad,

Glasgow 01/10/2008 10:30:57
#33, the trend is the same in England.

 

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