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Scotland begins to feel the chill of housing slump



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Published Date: 16 April 2008
SCOTLAND will not escape the housing-market slump, with prices falling within six months, a leading economist has warned. Property values will decline amid the current lending crunch, Professor David Bell said, despite figures yesterday which showed prices north of the Border are at present the fastest-growing in Britain.
A snapshot survey by The Scotsman yesterday also showed that although some sellers were already feeling the pinch in Scotland, opting for fixed-price sales or lower starting prices, many said they were still confident of a good deal. Even as the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, held talks with bankers in Downing Street, estate agents north of the Border insisted they were "quietly confident".

They even claimed that Scotland, and Edinburgh in particular, could benefit from the downturn in the south of England, as Scots working in London might be lured home by cheaper prices. Such a phenomenon was seen in the recession of the early 1990s.

They spoke out as government figures showed prices across Britain fell by 1.6 per cent in February, with annual growth slowing to its lowest level for 19 months. But Scotland saw gains of 9.7 per cent during the same month.

Research from the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) showed that, although a record number of surveyors reported falls in property values in March, Scotland had been sheltered from the storm.

However, Prof Bell, a leading economic adviser based at Stirling University, said it was only a matter of time before the slowdown "rippled out" from London, although values were unlikely to fall far.

He said: "I think we are looking for a period of (something] between stability and mild decline (in value]. I suspect it will be towards the decline, but not something that's going to dramatically affect the value of people's houses that they have built up over the years.

"If there is a decline, it would not be a very marked decline. We might get a decline from June to July, but we are not looking at a substantial decline in value over, say, what the prices were a year ago."

He went on: "I would be very surprised if Scottish house prices were still rising three months from now."

He said the country was not exempt from the lending problems which had affected the rest of the country, as buyers have to borrow from the same banks offering the same deals.

Yesterday's reports from the RICS and Westminster government showed growth had reached a new low, and commentators laid the blame squarely at the door of the credit crunch.

A record 78.5 per cent of surveyors reported a drop in the value of property during March, overtaking figures set during the 1990s house-price crash.

Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrats' Treasury spokesman, said: "It is clear we are now seeing a major and long-overdue correction in the housing market. However, there is a real danger that, with rising personal debt and high inflation, this correction may become a crash. The government must act to ensure we do not end up with mass repossessions."

Yesterday's figures were the latest in a string of downbeat economic reports. The Halifax has said property prices fell by 2.5 per cent in March – the biggest monthly drop since September 2002.

The housing market has been under increasing pressure in recent months due to a combination of problems in the mortgage market and affordability worries after previous strong growth.

The credit crunch has caused mortgage lenders to increase rates and demand ever higher deposits. There is little sign that last week's interest-rate cut has done much to ease the problems, with only a handful of lenders passing on the quarter-point reduction to borrowers on their standard variable rate.

Year-on-year growth was recorded at a sluggish 1.1 per cent – meaning that prices were falling in real terms on an annual basis.

The Edinburgh Solicitors Property Centre said there was evidence that the slowdown had hit the capital, with annual house-price inflation falling to its lowest level since the crash of 1993 and properties typically taking nine weeks to sell.

Peter Lyell, a director of estate agent Savills, said of Scotland's experience in the 1990s slowdown: "We saw a bit of a resurgence because, if you have a professional couple down south who have done very well for years and that dries up, they think perhaps it's time to go home. It did happen. Edinburgh prices still look low compared with London's. It would not surprise me if we saw a few people do it this time. That's my hope."

He also said he did not believe there had been a decrease in property values at the top end of the market so far this year. However, he added: "The next three months will tell us exactly what the market is doing.

"This is the time when people will normally put their house on the market and this will be quite telling."

What's happening in the market

SOLID INTEREST TAILED OFF BUT HOPEFUL OF SALE

Ferniebrae
Aberchirder
Aberdeenshire
Offers over £285,000


Julia McKay and her husband, Walter, are selling up to start a property business overseas.

She said: "We had solid bookings for viewing for the first couple of weeks. Thereafter, it tailed away to nothing.

"I don't know if people are sitting tight or what, but the ones who came earlier on were very keen so that solved our problems and we have three noted interests. We are hopeful of securing a sale tomorrow."

'I THINK IT MIGHT BE LEVELLING OUT'

India Street
Edinburgh
Offers over £370,000


Russell and Nicki Bain are selling their two-bedroom flat and are have confidence in the market. Mr Bain runs the moving firm Clockwork Removals & Storage and has seen bookings increase year on year.

He said: "I understand what's happening at the moment, but I'm quite confident. The market has certainly grown a lot in the last three years, since we last bought.

"It might be levelling out at the moment – I think that's probably what we are seeing – but I don't necessarily think it's dropping."

'I THINK WE ARE AT A SLOW POINT'

Clearview
Windsole, Auchterarder
Offers over £385,000


Neil Docherty has been living with his wife and three daughters in the new-build property in Auchterarder for four years.

The transport firm owner has found a new plot where he want to build a larger home. His property went on the market four weeks ago and had 12 viewings in the first fortnight. He said: "We had quite a lot of views the first week and a half, but it's tailed off. I don't know why but I think we are at a slow point, or the mortgages are too high. It's when I have to pay the bill for the new one I have to worry."

'IT'S A BUYERS' MARKET'

Glendale House
Strachur, Cairdow, Argyll
Offers over £480,000


Iain and Sheila Mackenzie's home on the banks of Loch Fyne was built in 1860 and has been a doctor's house and a small hotel. They have been there for six and a half years.

He said: "We have now got a grandaughter and they live in Clydebank and my wife wants to move closer. I definitely think it's a buyers' market. Depending on your circumstances, there's a lot of choice out there."

The couple were "quite surprised and extremely impressed" by the interest they had received.

EARLY INTEREST IN MORNINGSIDE VILLA

14B Churchhill
Morningside, Edinburgh
Offers over £465,000


Gillian Kidd and her partner, Henry Whalen, are selling their property because he has secured a new job in Glasgow. They have been living in their stone villa for only ten months, and it had just been refurbished to how they wanted it when the unmissable job came up.

They put out a "for sale" sign earlier in the week, before the property was even listed, and have already had three requests for viewings. Miss Kidd said: "It's fantastic. It's a big lift to hear we have so much interest just on that basis. I think that's just the location."

'PEOPLE BUY BECAUSE THEY WANT A HOUSE'

Port Laing Wynd
North Queensferry
Offers over £895,000


Allan and Isobel McGhee are selling their property, which sits in extensive grounds.

He said: "We put it on the market a month ago and have been initially surprised at the amount of interest we were getting, but latterly delighted at the level.

"We had about eight or nine interested parties, with five formally noting interest, so from my point of view, the market is buoyant. I think as you move up the market, people are buying because they want a house, not just an investment."

POTENTIAL DEALS ALL FELL THROUGH

Jubilee Court
Aboyne, Aberdeenshire
Fixed price: £152,000


The Rev Kate Gibson wants to return home to the US and she put her flat

on the market in late February, at offers over £125,000.

After initial interest, two potential purchasers were unable to go ahead with a deal and in late March, the price was fixed at £155,000. Another offer at that level was accepted – but then the potential purchaser had to pull out after their financing fell apart. It is now fixed at £152,000. She said: "It's very difficult because people are being influenced by what's happening elsewhere."

'MARKET IS STILL THRIVING'

Botanic Views
Inverleith Place, Edinburgh
From £499,000-£1.4 million


Life PD Homes, which renovates historic properties, opened its marketing suite for Botanic Views less than three months ago. It has had more than 200 potential buyers registering interest. Apartments are priced from £559,000 to £1.4 million and mews properties from £499,000.

So far, two mews cottages have been reserved and two three-bedroom apartments have been sold.

Viv Sutherland, director, said: "The property market is still thriving in the city."

PM 'ready to be unpopular to save economy'

DANIEL BENTLEY

GORDON Brown yesterday insisted he was ready to be "unpopular" in order to steer Britain away from economic disaster after an unprecedented Downing Street summit with banks struggling through the credit crunch.

The Prime Minister accepted that families were facing tough conditions, but stressed the long-term interests of the country had to come first.

He said: "I'm not complacent and I will always be vigilant. I wake up thinking what can we do to help homeowners, to help those people who have got small businesses, people looking for jobs, people wanting opportunities so they can have better jobs for the future."

But he added: "People would not thank me for taking the wrong long-term decisions. The right long-term decisions are to keep inflation low and keep interest rates low."

Mr Brown's defiant comments came after he held talks in No 10 with bosses from Lloyds, Barclays, HSBC, Royal Bank of Scotland and Nationwide over how to minimise fall-out from the global credit crunch.

Downing Street officials said they discussed the "next steps" in securing the financial system amid evidence that property prices were slumping sharply and borrowing costs rising.

Mr Brown, who has described stabilising the economy as his "sole focus", is believed to have urged the City leaders to ease the strain on householders by passing on last week's quarter-point interest rate cut. Among those yet to do so is the nationalised bank, Northern Rock.

The government is also under pressure to help people deal with rising prices for key commodities – such as food and fuel.

There was slightly better news for Mr Brown yesterday when inflation figures showed that the official rate held steady at 2.5 per cent last month, rather than rising as many had expected.

However, David Cameron, the Tory leader, launched a searing attack on the Prime Minister for being "arrogant" and "out of touch" with ordinary people's difficulties. He said the government had wasted money "on a gargantuan scale" in the past decade on issues such as the creation of regional assemblies, when it should have been preparing for leaner times.

Meanwhile, the Bank of England pumped an extra £15 billion into the financial markets in a bid to improve liquidity.

The economic gloom, poor opinion poll ratings and likely Labour rebellions over plans for the 42-day detention without charge of terror suspects and the abolition of the 10p tax rate have led to speculation over Mr Brown's position. But, asked about his future, the Prime Minister insisted: "I'm starting a job I mean to continue."

The full article contains 2113 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

Vivas,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 00:18:37
More house price stories = very very very boring.

And Scotland will be impacted .. well I never...
2

indune1,

Canada 16/04/2008 00:20:57
1- Vivas -
And Scotland will be affected (vice impacted)
3

Vivas,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 00:44:11
I bow to your superior wordsmithing indune1.

Regardless... the hootsman and others endlessly regurgitating these endless house price (ahem) stories... will fill endless column inches for weeks and months to come it seems. Saves them digging up actual news I 'spose.
4

Edward,

16/04/2008 01:05:23
Very weird!
On the BBC news today they stated thats Scotland was bucking the trend with house prices going up
yet the Scotsmans says the prices are going down
Which is it?
5

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16/04/2008 01:44:30
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1745,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 07:31:41
Did the Scotsman neglect to watch last night's programme where it is clearly shown that Scotland is not experiencing the trend south of the border.?
7

rancid brown,

Corrupt EU 16/04/2008 07:35:33
Batten down the hatches and prepare for global economic depression. I'm so glad that I paid my mortgage off after moving back up to Scotland from England. I've no intention of moving, so price drops won't affect me. Stayed out of debt too. Only the wise will get through these times. I feel totally secure because I didn't remortgage in order to squander money on holidays, cars etc.
8

Brian M,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 07:40:58
a 'slump' in the housing market and house prices will have no effect on the vast majority of homeowners who intend to stay in their home for the long term.
9

gus1940,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 07:46:13
If the Scottish housing market does indeed go into a slump it will be interesting to see how the Scotsman manages to twist it so that it is the fault of The SNP.
10

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 16/04/2008 07:59:22
Low home prices benefit new buyers and harm only those who have to sell. Falling house prices are not a massive problem: inflation is.
11

Hermitage,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 08:02:35
## 9 ##

The SNP will manage to twist it so that it is all the fault of the English.

So much for the canny Scot at the helm.
12

PJ Walker,

East Lothian 16/04/2008 08:09:21
Talking about property prices in 'Scotland' is over simplistic t the point of being almost futile. What is meant by it, Balloch, Invernes, Ayr, Hawick,Craigmillar, Morningside?

Edinburgh alone has upwards of 10 very distinct regions and sub regions where prices vary by huge amounts. To lump all postcodes in the country together is almost worthless.
THere is plenty of first-hand evidence to show that several postcodes are stil experiencing healthy growth. I've witnessed gains of 30% in 2 years in parts of the capital.
13

Scotish Exile,

16/04/2008 08:12:32
#10
lower prices only benefit buyers, if they can get their hands on a mortgage, that is proving to be increasingly more difficult
14

Blindscout,

Fife 16/04/2008 08:24:28
Over the last 10 years, house prices have far than exceeded inflation, leading to the issue that one cannot afford a mortgage on the 2.5 x salary + spouse with a 5% deposit. Did the money lenders object, no. They kept lending more and more, throwing more money at the market, that kept prices rising and rising as many tried to get on the 'home' ladder. House prices have been overinflated for years, with lenders offering crazy deals of 125% mortgages and up to 6x salary. If the original rules had been maintained prices would not have jumped up so high.

Shortage of housing? Then ban all these tv programmes that encourage buy-to-let and stop second holiday homes that lie empty most of the year, while in the renting market encourage families to stay at home longer with their parents, rather that getting a council house that is then subsidised with housing benefit, and stop imigration until we have a stock of houses available. The ones bleating are those who make their living at our expense, the estate agents and banks/money lenders. Poor angels are having a cut in their commissions (lower sales prices), while us in the real working world have struggled with below inflation increases or in many cases, redundancy, that invariable lead to an even lower paid job, sometimes even part time.
15

Abby on line,

waiheke island..auckland NZ 16/04/2008 08:33:13
I think you are for more heartbreak with your prices going down... our prices started to go down around Christmas, and some sellers have dropped their asking price from $50.000 to $60,000 already. I think if you HAVE to sell ,do it now and take what you can get...best bet by far is to hold on to your little golden egg, polish it brightly and bide your time. It IS going to get worse! Sorry....
16

Jay Kay,

16/04/2008 08:46:58
I have to agree with all the posters here, the house market is about to go pop and the poor Estate Agents and Banks are the ones who are going to be left propping up the market, has anyone checked to see the rising number of reposessions, its increasing dramatically, so just wait until the banks start to loose money and see if Interest rates stay at 7% I seriously doubt it.

Im a)glad I have no mortguage and b) No need to ever have one, plus I have ISA's which have begun to show an increase in the Interest rate so I get more for my money, those who chose to accept a 125% mortguage just to keep up with the Jones's and there are a lot of them out there are going to be hit hard, I predict the number of reposessions are going to Rocket through the roof, but hey the Bonk of Engerland can always throw another 15 Billion into the Pot right after all they and every other greedy banks made record profit last year to the tune of Billions.
17

Bewildered,

Glasgow 16/04/2008 09:19:30
It is comments like this from "experts" which fuel a panic reaction and partly cause the price reductions anticipated. Hysterical and extensive media also influence the market.
18

gus1940,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 09:22:00
It benefits sellers as well as most will be buying and moving upmarket.

If you sell at £100K and buy at £200k and have to borrow the difference you borrow £100K.

If prices go down 20% you sell at £80K and only have to borrow £80K.

Is that not a benefit.
19

Phil C,

16/04/2008 09:34:18

The even split between those who can't be bothered with property 'stories' and those infatuated with them is quite a good thing. Homes (whether rented or owned) should never be seen as investments. That has been the main problem in the UK, as compared to our European neighbours.

There is a myth doing the rounds that 125% mortgages and high income multiple loans have caused the crisis. These are the result of an inflated market. Most people who took out these loans did so just to purchase a basic property. In any case, these were not 125% mortgages. They were 95% mortgages with a 30% unsecured top-up.

If you invest in property, you buy to let or are a developer. Those who BTL take property off the natural first-time buyers' market and they have slowly destroyed the housing market for easy personal gain. While the trigger for the current unrest is undoubtedly bad credit lending in the States, which has damaged global money markets, much of the blame for the UK's current state must lie with the buy-to let brigade and the government's reluctance to control the growth in the activities of these greedy people.
They have pushed up the prices at the low end of the market, with a rippling effect upwards.


20

ccc,

16/04/2008 09:42:08
#17 "It is comments like this from "experts" which fuel a panic reaction and partly cause the price reductions anticipated. Hysterical and extensive media also influence the market."

And just what do you think has been 'fueling' the ridiculous prices that we see today in the property market.....

Hysteria on the way up. No-one will deny that. SO PLLEASE TELL ME WHY THERE SHOULD NOT BE THE SAME HYSTERIA ON THE WAY DOWN TO TAKE PROPERTIES BACK TO THE LEVELS NORMAL PEOPLE CAN REALLY AFFORD..

I won't hold my breath for an answer.

PS. Good to see the papers are preparing people for the shock of price drops in Edinburgh come July. I have been predicted this for over 6 months. And I am not an economist... Maybe I should charge for my predictions :)
21

C,

Glasgow 16/04/2008 09:43:53
Further definitive comment from Prof Bell - It might rain soon, but it might not.
22

Shaken,

16/04/2008 09:48:03
#7

Your quite self satisfied I hope your house burns down.

As the the article - complete nonsense from this rag there is a slow down in general but Scotland has largely bucked the UK trend as per every other news source. There will be slump in the not too distant future, So Mr Smug @ #7 can look out his pedestal and sniff at his neighbours as their houses get repossesed. Good for you ya Southern dafty!
23

Mcsnagpile,

16/04/2008 09:59:34
Awe very weel bit whit aboot the burd flu an ra fower punters oin hoarses on the hill cried the Apocalypse boiz. Time fur the learned tae cast the bones.
24

Privateman,

Anywhere but here 16/04/2008 10:04:00
Headline
"Scotland begins to feel the chill of housing slump"

What Prof actually said:

"(something] between stability and mild decline (in value]. I suspect it will be towards the decline, but not something that's going to dramatically affect the value of people's houses that they have built up over the years."

"not be a very marked decline."

"surprised if Scottish house prices were still rising three months from now."

None of these comments make good headlines, but then this isn't a good story without a sensational panic headline is it?

Imagine:

"Scottish housing market begins to feel something between stability and mild decline"

We wouldn't be reading that now would we?
25

Memyself&I,

16/04/2008 10:49:19
Yawnnn.

#24 Agree completley.
26

ccc,

16/04/2008 11:15:23
So many people just don't get it....

Obviously they are not going to be publishing stories now with 'Market about to collapse' etc....

The very fact that they are talking about falls is enough. 6 months ago this was unheard of. It will pick up from hear. How about you ask people in the US how the property stories started there....

I would bet you every penny I have they started in excatly the same way. The financial turmoil has barely touched these shores yet. What do you think will happen when we REALLY start to feel its effects....

Such a lacking of common sense in the general population - it amazes me.
27

Bewildered,

Glasgow 16/04/2008 11:38:42
Comment 20 ccc: You can breath again- I entirely agree with you; the media always enjoy a good hype story.
28

Liz,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 11:38:45
There are an awful lot of people here in Scotland who will soon be regretting having borrowed so much money to buy poxy horrible overpriced flats and houses.

Seriously, prices are so far out of step with any measure of local earnings that what is coming is inevitable.

What are the prices of that Springside development in Edinburgh? Offers over £200,000 for horrible little one-bedroom flats?! I wonder how many they have 'sold' and how many 'investors' are now thinking better of it?

29

Encephalon,

16/04/2008 11:44:30
The situation in the UK is similar to the US-although if anything it is actually worse in the UK. The economic growth has been built on the back of consumer demand attributable to the massive bubble in property values (positive equity) engineered by the fiscal-(favourable tax treatment of buy-to lets) and monetary (prolonged era of low real interest rates) policies of Brown and The Fed on the other side of the pond.

A veritable house of cards has been built on moving sands -all aided by a complicit financial sector that only had eyes for this years's bonus!

Like ever bubble in history it will pop.

Anyone who imagines they will be unaffected is living in Lalaland eg the impact on the whole economy will be massive-job losses in the financial sector will spread throughout the economy, inflation will rise, negative equity created will lead to reduction in demand creating more unemployment-a vicious circle.

#18 even those with no mortgage will find that if they wish to move then that they will be unable to sell their house quickly and will end up with bridging loans and paying massive interest charges.
30

MoragtheToerag,

Argyll 16/04/2008 12:23:18
Who cares? Live in a caravan - get rid of all but what you need and find out what it means to be free and not enslaved to debt.
31

Boab,

Glasgow 16/04/2008 12:44:55
At the risk of repeating myself, I'll offer anyone £120K for a one-bedroom in the West End or City Centre. A fat 33% profit if you bought it for £90K.

OK, it's not the 100% you might have expected, but it'll let you cut your losses.

It's kind of amazing that Labour, not the Tories, have denied home ownership to anyone but the very affluent.
32

Proximaking,

Dundee 16/04/2008 12:46:45
If prices fall to say 50% of what they are now anyone who bought a house in the last 6 years will be in negative equity if they started out in that house with a 100% mortgage. In reality most people who bought in the last 6 years had some unearned capital gains from previous house sales so in reality anyone who bought in perhaps the last 8 or 9 years will be completely unaffected in terms of losing money they EARNED even if house prices fall to 35 - 40% of what they are now. The only losers will be first-time buyers in the last 5 or 6 years who entered the market with no unearned capital. In other words for most people, even those millions who feel hard done to, they won't be losing a single penny of EARNED capital. So the question arises ........ "What's the problem?" Now if you were stupid enough to use unearned capital gains as a basis for an expensive lifestyle then more fool you. The sooner house prices collapse the better and the sooner people stop buying Wendy-houses too small to swing a cat in from "developers" (thieves more like) the better for all of us. And do we really need an economist to tell us what we can all see by looking in the property centre pages? The prices on the Dundee site have been 50/50 offers over/fixed price for at least the last two months, a classic sign of a market stall prior to a complete crash. Houses are for making homes out of not money and after this crash I don't think anyone will be forgetting it. llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
33

Memyself&I,

16/04/2008 13:39:10
#28 Just aslong as people can afford to buy, prices will be sustained.
#20, The reason there won't be the same hysteria on the way down is because people don't want to talk down the value of their property. They just won't sell if they can't get the price they want. And in turn there will be no buyers as the first time buyers won;t be able to get a mortgage.
34

Adso,

16/04/2008 13:45:54
# 20 R u having a laugh?

You've been predicting the crash for 6 months? The crash has been predicted for about the past 4 - 5 years. I did a search a while ago and got a thread exactly like this one...dated 2003. The market may crash as some people seem to be hoping. On the other hand it may chill out for a year or so and then growth will kick in again.

Question to all doomsayers - can you show me a decade in the last 50 where house prices did not double?
35

Bob M,

16/04/2008 13:56:45
#32 "The only losers will be first-time buyers in the last 5 or 6 years who entered the market with no unearned capital"

Anybody who has used saved cash to move up the ladder in recent years would lose out too. A boat I'm in unfortunately.
36

JoeMcT,

BlairsFantasyIsland 16/04/2008 14:32:40
Gee, whatever happened to New Labour's boats to have beaten the "boom and bust" cycle?

The reality is that Prudence Brown's policies during 10 years as Chancellor lead to the biggest Debt bubble in our history........and now we reap what Gordon and Tony sowed.........
37

Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 16/04/2008 15:05:14
And it's all been so good up til now. I suppose something had to give after the huge flurry of affluence to hit the nation.
38

rancid brown,

16/04/2008 15:27:02
How thrilling it must be. The Pope (a former Hitler Youth) meets President Bush, the grandson of a Nazi sympathiser. They should get Arnold (the son of an SS officer) over, then the party can really begin!

Gordon Brown, Tony Blair et al?

"At the age of 14, he joined the Hitler Youth..."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4445279.stm

"How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

"The son of an SS nazi officer, Schwarzenegger has publicly stated that he has dreamed of being a dictator and that he admires Hitler."
http://www.arnoldexposed.com/
39

HughB,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 16:11:19
Notice that all the examples given are sellers.

Maybe they couldn't find any buyers to use them as examples!!!
40

ccc,

16/04/2008 16:25:00
#36. I have been predicting the crash for years. What I was pointing out is that I have been predicting that JULY will be THE big month - especially for Edinburgh. The figures that I ACTUALLY INVESTIGTAED MYSELF spell it out very clearly.

ESPC Edinburgh sale prices last 5 quarters:

208
228
222
215
210

Have a think about the next figures and when they are out. Then have a think about what figures they are going to be compared to on their 'Year to year' basis...

I will give you a clue. July & 228k.

What are the chances the Edinburgh market is about to shoot up in the next 3 months to beat it's all time record of July last year ? Pretty close to zero.

So we will have the announcement that Edinburgh house prices have fallen. This will shcok your average person as they have no idea that this was possible. What is that going to do to the market ?

As I said before, maybe I should charge for my work. I seem to know a lot more than most 'experts'...

;)
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Dekester,

Canada's westcoast 16/04/2008 16:46:19
The obsession with homeownership appears to be a sickness back home in Scotland and here too in the Vancouver area.

Easy money has been made for many. ( ourselves included.) however it looks like the party, at least for the next little while may be over.

Quality real estate will always enjoy an ample number of potential purchasers.

However the cheap flats (condos here.) will become a millstone. That inventory of cheap flats will likely be the undoing of many.

Over time we all know folks will do well holding quality real estate. However the "junk" that some folks are buying will cripple them. As property taxes and interest charges take there toll. Never mind the hard costs.

When in doubt do the math. compare the cost of renting to buying.

The estate agents and lenders are the one's worried and of course the greedy or foolish.

Life is as normal for everyone else.

All the best.
42

MoragtheToerag,

Argyll 16/04/2008 17:38:10
#34, Nah, I think I'd rather live in a tent than in Cumbernauld! LOL.
43

MoragtheToerag,

Argyll 16/04/2008 17:39:05
Anyone who borrowed irresponsibly deserves that they get. But of course, the taxpayer will be expected to bail them out whether we own a home or not.
44

Redhat,

Morayshire 16/04/2008 19:00:43
"They spoke out as government figures showed prices across Britain fell by 1.6 per cent in February, with annual growth slowing to its lowest level for 19 months. But Scotland saw gains of 9.7 per cent during the same month"

Here we go again. Who is this newspaper trying to fool?

Once again they are comparing the monthly change in the UK to a longer term change in Scotland. If prices were going up 9.7% a month in Scotland that represents an annual increase of 116%.
45

Vincent-W,

16/04/2008 21:49:40
Poor quality journalism yet again from the Scotsman.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 16/04/2008 23:02:06
The whole scenario of housing has been the equivalent of buying bread at Christmas. Shelves empty for no reason.

Let the price fall to what it was a few years ago. Why should I care? I never panicked.

It says quite clearly that the value of your property may go down as well as up. So, if you have overstretched yourself and do end up in negative equity I have no sympathy for you. As much as I would like to.

My matchbox is too small for me and my son but we have to live in it for the moment.

Too many first time buyers had unrealistic dreams of what a first home should be. Better luck next time.

This kind of mass blindness happens every 10 or so years these days.

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scully,

Colchester 30/04/2008 08:40:34
LIKE No 7

My Morgage is paid.and I am not in any debt. But I do want to return to Scotland at some time. But as an old age pensioner, and Now being taxed on my state pension at £13.00 per week . This will make it harder for me.I Think it is the sheer greed of the Government and those that surround them are destroying our Country.And David Cameron is not going to be any different from Gordon Brown.. The MPs greed is astonishing. . I know there are some good ones. But how do you.sererate the wheat from the chaff. so that the people of this country can have some hope. for the future and there children.. I Have voted always since I was 21 years old. But this Year I will not be voting for anyone. it is time for MPs to start proving that they desrve our vote
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Ugly George,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 00:35:59
48 Jock Tamson
You and your son live in a matchbox - sheer luxury.
Me and my 83 brothers live in a paper bag.
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SianB,

London and Edinburgh 03/06/2008 15:09:50
So Scotland begins to feel the chill of a housing slump as it posts 9.7% annual house price inflation vs a drop of 1.7% in the rest of the UK.

Looks like journalism went the same way as jute and jam.

 

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