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The view from Capitol Hill: Tears, pleas, revenge and claims of betrayal

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Published Date: 30 September 2008
THE turbulence on Wall Street moved south to Washington yesterday.
It was, in some respects, an old-fashioned day in Washington as each party struggled to whip their members into line; a day that recalled an age in which party unity was less fixed than it has been in recent years.

Steny Hoyer, the Democratic maj
ority leader from Maryland, quoted Spiro Agnew, Richard Nixon's vice-president, who in another age warned: "The cost of our failure will far exceed the price of our progress."

Thus conservative Republicans who hated the bill on account of its "socialism" praised and voted with liberal Democrats who felt US Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson's modified plan did too much for Wall Street and not enough for ordinary Americans.

Earlier, Congressman John Boehner's voice had choked as he urged his colleagues to "think about what happens if we don't pass this bill".

The Republican minority leader was close to tears as he asked members to "think about your friends, your neighbours, your constituents.

"Think about those retired people who live near you, whose income will shrivel to zero".

But Mr Boehner failed to move his party. No fewer than 133 Republicans joined 95 Democrats in voting against the plan.

Only 65 Republicans and 140 Democrats supported the bill, leaving it defeated by 228 votes to 205.

Predictably, each party blamed the other for the impasse.

Republicans blamed speaker Nancy Pelosi for the failure to pass the bill.

Nonsense, said Democrats, who felt "totally" betrayed by the Republican leadership. "They promised us 80 to 90 votes," said a Democratic leadership source, "but these guys only care about themselves."

"Are Republicans really saying, 'Somebody hurt my feelings so I will punish the country?'," asked Barney Frank, the Democratic chairman of the House financial services committee.

The truth was that a majority of members wanted a bill to pass but fewer wanted to vote for it themselves.

In the end, too many members voted "No" while hoping their colleagues would vote "Yes".

The political cost of voting "Yes" proved more persuasive than the unknown cost of voting "No."

The Democratic leadership had hoped to treat the bail-out plan as though it were a vote to award Congress an unpopular pay rise.

According to a Democratic aide, the theory was: "We put up 110, GOP (a nickname for the Republicans – God's Own Party] puts up 110 of their guys, and we hold hands and we jump together.

"This thing is a flaming pile of s***, but we have to do it."

But GOP blinked. The political reasons for opposing the bill are clear: earlier this week, calls and e-mails to congressional offices were running 200 to one against the bail-out plan.

"The American public hates this deal," said the Democratic leadership aide.

The bill's failure is also a stunning political defeat for the White House, which had lobbied hard for its passage, and it underlines the extent to which Mr Bush is now a lame-duck president.





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  • Last Updated: 30 September 2008 1:26 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Obama Mama,

Edinburgh 30/09/2008 06:24:35
"The G. O. P." stands not for "The God's Own Party," but "The Grand Old Party." However, since the melding of The Republican Party and the Christian Right in the fairly recent past, perhaps the writer of this article is not so far off the mark...at least in the view of most ultra-conservative Christian Right party members.
2

Madbagpypr,

STEORNABHAGH,LEODHAS,NA h-EILEAN SIAR 30/09/2008 07:34:52
What's funny is they are against gays and abortion...who has less abortions than gays? They should be natural allies.

Republicans want live babies so they can turn them into dead soldiers.
3

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 30/09/2008 11:33:11
These vile, verminous Republicans are shedding crocodile tears and the sheer hypocrisy of that doomed political party is breathtaking.

May they go to hell in a handbasket and stay OUT of power for a long, long time.

They have messed things up royally and George W. Bush is the devil incarnate.
4

britfreee,

camelon 30/09/2008 12:25:07
3 TimW1234

I'll ask again, why are you gays so hostile against republicans?
5

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30/09/2008 13:11:01
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30/09/2008 13:36:10
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Kelvino,

- NY 30/09/2008 17:31:26
The Bush Legacy -

A baseless war, the encouragement of world jihad, domestic financial collapse, protection of the super-rich, disdain for the working person, denial of
citizen's legitimate health and education requirements, some 600,000 needless Iraqi deaths and the destruction of their country, horrific war-related debt, encouragement of divisive "faith-driven" domestic ideology for political gain, created the need to turn our capitalistic sysyem into rampant CORPORATE socialism overnight, leaving us holding the bag. . . .

WHAT A COMPLETE AND UTTER DISASTER THIS MAN HAS BEEN FOR OUR COUNTRY.

It will most likely take a decade or more to recover from the endless errors in judgement cause by this incompetent little man with the big Texas (Yale) attitude. We are all acccomplices to this ravaging of our country . . . we LET IT HAPPEN !

He's the kind of guy you could "have a beer with,"
as long as you pick up the tab and drive him home !

PLEASE. . . . .pass the guy a pretzel!
8

Mcsnagpile,

30/09/2008 18:11:25
Maggie could soon sort out all these lame ducks.
9

Nellie,

Liverpool 30/09/2008 18:33:14
#6 Well said.

Pity we can't turn the tables by bailing out the US with our own version of a "Marshall Plan", turning the tables so they become "our bitch" for a change, all the while they pay back the loan with big interest over the next 40 years!)
10

mike - across the pond,

just doin the math.... 30/09/2008 18:40:29
of the DNC
pelosi told 16 freshman congressmen to vote NO...
of the 32 dems on the various finance committees 10 voted no
there were 5 other DNC chairmen of other committes who voted no

oh... and if it was "strict party lines"... the dem's hold a majority, so they dont need ANY GOP votes...

pelosi took a giant deuce in the pool, then wondered why it didnt pass...
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mike - across the pond,

brage.... 30/09/2008 18:46:26
before you take another cup of the pelosi kooliad...

read a little something

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

this is the little JEWEL that created Fannie & Freddie in 1977... by JIMMIE CARTER and THE DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED CONGRESS...

pay special attention to 1989... & 2005.... and where "regulations" were increased...

pay some more attention to 1995 where regulations were DECREASED...

care to rethink some of the venom?
12

Pilrig,

Livingston 30/09/2008 18:53:02
8 - au contraire, they're her kind of people
13

Al Sharpton Jr,

30/09/2008 19:09:13
5 TimW1234

Are you back in the closet?
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30/09/2008 19:23:13
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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta CA for more WAR VOTE McCain 30/09/2008 19:25:05
#14 cont'd...

Couric was again focused and forceful in her questioning:
"Gov. Palin, since our last interview, you have gotten a lot of flak. Some Republicans have said you are not prepared, you're not ready for prime time... And I'm curious to hear your reaction."

"Well, not only am I ready but willing and able to serve as vice president with Sen. McCain if Americans so bless us and privilege us with the opportunity of serving them -- ready with my executive experience as a city mayor and manager, as a governor, as a commissioner, a regulator of oil and gas,

And again, McCain stepped in to defend his running mate.

"This is not the first time I've seen a governor being questioned by some quote expert," he said making qotation marks with his fingers.
"I remember that Ronald Reagan was a 'cowboy'. President Clinton was a governor of a very small state that had 'no experience' either. I remember how easy it was going to be for Bush I to defeat him.

I still recall, whoops, that one. But the point is that I've seen underestimation before. I'm very proud of the excitement that Gov. Palin has ignited with this party around this country."

Adios GC
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30/09/2008 19:27:31
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 30/09/2008 20:01:40
16 Longshanks

I was being ironic and not serious at all. It was what they call a "red herring" and you fell for it. Sad, really.

I had not known that you had returned from the dead, Edward the First.
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Kelvino,

- NY 30/09/2008 21:04:41

Further brilliance from America's formost economic genius, flip-flopper and market-maker -

"I shouldn't say this, but I'm going to say it anyway. Screw the market! .... OK, I'LL TAKE THAT BACK, not screw the market, but let me tell you something," conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh said as part of his analysis of Monday's events.

"When the government fails to pass a socialism bill and the market goes south, LET IT GO SOUTH. I don't want to pass a socialism bill just to protect the stock market," said Limbaugh, by far the most popular host on U.S. radio.

IS THAT OK WITH YOUR 401-K ?

WITH YOUR KID'S
COLLEGE SAVINGS FUND ?

You can bet that Rush is hoping to drive the market DOWN , only to scoop up those depressed stocks, along with his profiteering commrades. Many of his listeners are still physically alive and worried about their life-savings, which he would be happy to accumulate on the down-side, I am certain.

Of course, this was yesterdays's news and the sought-after profits have been banked, until the process resumes later in the week. You think NOT ?




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2dogs in D.C.,

30/09/2008 21:21:58
#7-Kelvino-pretzil,absolutely great. Loved it and am still laughing.
20

2dogs in D.C.,

30/09/2008 21:24:30
G.C.-Hey,bub, what's up? You're REALLY starting to make sense. Something must be in the air...:/
21

GalacticCannibal,

MurrietaCA for more WAR VOTE McCain 01/10/2008 01:05:20
Ok Dudes .
I see that the "control or stifle free speech" mob are alive and kicking on this thread .

So why was the first part of my post #14 removed and the second #15 not.

Why was #5 post removed .

People who stifle freedom of expression , be it verbal or written are no better than the CCP Chinese Communist Party , or the Nazi Third Reich..

how pathetic how sad these people are.

GC
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GalacticCannibal,

MurrietaCA for more WAR VOTE McCain 01/10/2008 01:12:08
20
2dogs in D.C.

Hey Dude what's in the air !!!! not marijuana.

No Sir so Sireeee.

Just a wild natural shroom with scramble eggs and veggies.

Me am brave Apache warrior .
Me strong like Lion.
Me swift as wind or Greyhound bus.
Me ride white pony.
Me know the Spirits.
Me drink fire water.
Me screw squaw girl friend.

Relax dude
GC
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mike - across the pond,

GC.... 01/10/2008 15:08:49
you are implying that Katie Couric is "fair"?

you are aware that Couric and her "today" show crew wore black (mourning attire) for nearly the entire months of Nov & Dec 2000... and again in 2004... in 2000 it got to be a running joke, what "funeral attire" would she wear today... the only time Couric deviated from that was the days following the Florida Supreme court legislatiing from the bench... being an observational kind of guy... these things catch my eye...

you are aware that Couric has ridden CBS news into the ground... after NBC found her "lacking" the requisite "chops" for a "primetime news anchor" job... and CBS was DESPARATE after Dan Rather went completely off the rails...

so katie's hatchet job on Palin... lacks objectivity... and should have been expected from the GOP crowd...

in Katie's defense, she did give Obama his toughest interview (this side of O'Rielly)... but remember Katie is a Clinton/Gore sycophant, so a couple tough questions for BO were probably to be expected...
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mike - across the pond,

kelvino... 01/10/2008 15:34:20
does history mean anything to you?

or are you too busy drinking from the DNC Kool_Aid bowl?

cause the punch in that bowl doesnt match up with the FACTS of history too well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

 

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