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Published Date: 27 July 2007
A PALESTINIAN strongman who was the linchpin of American policy towards Gaza for more than a decade had to step down in disgrace yesterday over last month's victory by Hamas over his troops.
Hamas hailed the resignation of Mohammed Dahlan from his post as President Mahmoud Abbas's national security adviser as the consummation of its seizure of the Strip from Fatah and a setback for US plans.

Islam Shawan, a Hamas militia spokesman, s
aid: "This is proof of the failure of the American project."

Mr Dahlan's resignation came in advance of a report on last month's fighting in Gaza that is expected largely to blame him for Fatah's defeat. Some Fatah troops in Gaza were trained and advised by the US, which continues to play the role in the West Bank.

Mr Dahlan, 46, was once seen as a possible successor to Mr Abbas and had been trying to establish a power base.

He oversaw a hard-hitting crackdown against Hamas in 1996 that included the shaving off of beards of Hamas prisoners and, allegedly, torture of detainees.

During a 2003 press conference at the White House, President George Bush called Mr Dahlan a "fine young man".

In Washington's view, Mr. Dahlan was the only person with the toughness and command capability to check the Islamic movement in Gaza.

Mr Abbas is expected to emerge from the report unscathed.



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1

sandy,

USA Pennsylvania 27/07/2007 00:12:18

he probably is "a fine young man"....

2

Muskrat,

27/07/2007 00:57:34

Too bad Hamas don't have the same enthusiasm for the welfare of the people in the Gaza Strip. But, they're probably too occupied looking for people to shoot in the kneecaps or throw off roofs.

3

Guga II,

Rockall 27/07/2007 01:44:51

#2 I thought that was the Israelis.

4

Tikun,

Nashville, TN 27/07/2007 02:04:44

Any lie to hate, huh Guga?

Dont read the news? During Hamas' coup they did exactly what Muskrat wrote.

Peace will now come to the West Bank and the murderers in Gaza and the fools that voted for them will have to wait.

Finally some Palestinians might actually miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

5

American,

USA 27/07/2007 06:14:39

How long will it be before hamas criticizes us for not sending them $$$ support or aide for their poor fellow palestinians?

6

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 27/07/2007 07:44:38

Hamas was elected. and Fatah with funding & military hardware provided by US/Israel are the ones that overthrew Hamas with violence. Then Hamas pushed back & took back some of the government offices (in gaza), but not all the offices. so it would be incorrect to describe the coup as being Hamas'. It was Fatah's coup.

7

Turkey Jerky,

27/07/2007 09:20:42

Sandy,

Your opinion of men may indicate psychological problems. You obviously view torture, murder, and cruelty as your top 3 requisites for fine attributes then?

ooooo, wasn't saddam just dishy then?

Think before you speak. Wait, I forgot, you wanna be just like Bush.

8

Tikun,

Nashville, TN 27/07/2007 10:05:34

#46 Wally,

In fact, while Hamas had a majority of the Parliment, they did not win all the seats.

Their violent overthrow of the other members of Parliment and their taking absolute control can be seen as nothing else BUT a Coup.

9

Homo Sapiens,

27/07/2007 10:18:35

(6) Wally, you got it wrong. Hamas won a larger share of the vote than Fatah did in the elections, but it won far short of an overall majority. Hamas failed to establish a government on its own, or in coalition with other islamist "rejectionist" parties, that reject any negotiations with Israel, and are sworn to the destruction and anhiliation of Israel. Hamas and Fatah tried forming a coalition government, with Hamas renouncing every commitment enetered into by previous Palestinian Authority governments. This rejection of previous international agreement brought about the boycott of the Hamas led government.

Palestinian internal power struggles, especially for control over foreign aid, and its use (guns V butter) saw Hamas trying to wrest control over the running of institutions (and security forces). The Coup was most decidedly a Hamas coup.

Where Hamas failed in its calculations was the fact that neither the Arab states, nor the world community at large supports their coup (in spite of their fake effort to claim having had a role in the release of Johnstone - in whose detention they surely did have a role, as it emerged).

The fact is that with Hamas out of the picture, and greater direct involvment in "nation building" effort focused on improving the quality of Palestinian life, the Palestinians and Israelis stand a better chance to resolve their differences and implement a two state solution. However, with Syria, backed by Iran, Hizzbolah and Hamas trying to bring mattres to a boil, it is very possible that the region will see another conflict, driven by Syria/Iran, that will yet again delay any solution for the Palestinians.

As to the resignantion of Dahlan, an opportunist who knew how to deal with the Israelis as well as the many Palestinian factions, while helping himself generously to the foreign aid... he no doubt will resurface, unless of course he will chose to retire on the millions that he stole fro

10

sandy,

USA Pennsylvania 27/07/2007 11:48:55

#7--turkey---""you obviously view torture,murder,& cruelty as your top 3 requisites for fine attributes then?""

if in fact that were true, i would then enjoy reading your posts...but alas!!

11

sandy,

USA Pennsylvania 27/07/2007 12:14:40

#10--Reading Public----mornin'...""as far as the money is concerned we need to find a way to make them more accountable for the funds so the people receive the benefits""

a most important point you made...oversight of the taxpayer money, should be a given, but is not & usually ends up in the pocket of those who don't care about the lives of their citizens.....are the Palestinian people not aware of the international funds they receive??

12

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27/07/2007 14:55:35
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13

mike - across the pond,

wally.... 27/07/2007 18:42:51

and the LA times would never put forth the ideology they want.... would they....

no never....

wanna swap links?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah

rather interesting characterization of hamas and fatah isnt it...

bet you're all twisted to find out that hamas is widely regarded as a terrorist organization and fatah is not.... all zionist lies?

where's your giant pile of thermite now pal..... would you like some salt with that?

snicker snicker snicker....

14

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 27/07/2007 18:46:55

some Americans at least are developing more understanding, sympathy & empathy for muslims in the middle east. and that is a positive step.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/study_iraqis_may_exp...

15

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 27/07/2007 19:05:56

Mike in 14:

I found some links about anti-semites. I think the root of all problems in the Middle East are anti-semites.

Here are some zionists in Israel beating up orthodox jews.

http://www.aztlan.net/jews_against_zionism.htm

If that's not anti-semitic, I don't know what is.

and on Tuesday of this week they had the annual anti-Israel protest among New York City orthodox jews. Here is a link to that. This article doesn't say, but I read about it elsewhere - I think 3,000 people marched.

http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Demonstrations/20070724.cfm

and if that's not anti-semitism, then I don't know what is.

And when the Israel Defense Force drops a bomb on a house full of a family in Palestine and kills them all that is also anti-semitism.

Because not just the Palestinians, but the Egyptians, the Syrians, the Lebanese and the Israelis too are all Semites. as the Israelis kill more Semitic people and persecute such people the most, then it is clear that they are the most anti-semitic in the region as well.

The orthodox jews cling to the original Torah scriptures where god made a Covenant with them and also gave them a set of god's laws and elaborate rules to live by. That is why they dress in an unusual manner and are very meticulous about following certain customs. They believe that they are set aside by god to do these things and they are loyal to that original Covenant given to them.

I respect the orthodox jews.

16

Stefan,

NYC 27/07/2007 19:26:43

#15 Wally. Please tell me that you know The Onion is satire.

17

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 27/07/2007 19:45:51

http://www.israelversusjudaism.org/oppression/200708Sign/...

I think it is horrible when the Israeli soldiers arrest and molest Semitic people. Read this link.

18

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 27/07/2007 19:49:05

Stefan, you shouldn't have let it out of the bag. There are people across the ocean who don't know that The Onion (#15) does nothing but satire. But all the other links are very serious.

Though that link in #15 is satire, it is also good commentary as many Americans do not really think of Muslim people as being human. All of the arabic people are semitic just as the Israelis are. Therefore, the Americans who hate the arabic muslims are anti-semitic.

And what I'm telling you is that the root of all the problems in the middle east is anti-semitism.

19

Dick "puller" Cheney,

27/07/2007 19:51:16

#14 mike - across the pond

You trust anything thats on wikipedia, you must be the first right wing/neocon on these boards to do so.
If any liberal posts a wikipedia link all the right wingers decry it as not official/biased/etc.

20

Dick "puller" Cheney,

27/07/2007 19:57:31

#8 Tinkun

"In fact, while Hamas had a majority of the Parliment, they did not win all the seats."

Stunning, truly stunning observation.

So that's like saying "while the rebublicans had the majority of the senate they did not win all the seats"

So by your reckoning, if Hamas has a majority but no right to rule, the rebublican majority in the senate who voted for bush to attack Iraq had no right to do it.

Nice one, so now you are saying the Iraq war is illegal and bush can be impeached??

21

Listen Ear,

28/07/2007 13:52:32

#4. Tikun, Nashville, TN / 3:04am 27 Jul 2007

But you know Hamas is the Legitimate Government so how could they stage a coup..

You know it is very much the opposite...

Abbas, by illegally attempting to disolve the government and replace them with unelected fatah supporters is the one that has staged a coup.

Do you get paid to post lies and mistruths?


 

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