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Hopes for independence do not signify regression but 21st-century progression



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Gordon Brown claims that independence would mean "retreat into 19th-century nationalism" (your report, 25 March).
This is odd, from someone who supports the independence of Kosovo. May I remind him that 16 European countries have gained their independence since 1991.

He states that there are no Scotland-Wales-England-only solutions to transnational challenge
s. Well how does the Republic of Ireland or any other independent country cope?

Mr Brown claims there are advantages of our economic union. How does he explain the fact, that Ireland has a far greater GDP per capita and far greater ranking on the quality of life index?

Furthermore, he states that within the UK; we share common values. How do the values of western Europe or those of Australia, New Zealand and Canada differ from the UK?

He claims that the Union is not about partnership at the expense of pride. Though it results in Scotland being seen as a region and not a country, around the world.

THOMAS MURRAY, Cairns Crescent, Perth

Gordon Brown talks of retreating into 19th-century nationalism. I would remind him that Scotland has been in retreat for the last 300 years in a provincial backwater from which it is showing signs of desiring to emerge into 21st-century national independence.

The so-called unionist parties are getting together to talk of surveying devolution with, among other things, greater powers to raise its own finance. How they expect to reach that goal without independence I cannot see.

(REV) JAMES McL RITCHIE, Croft-an-Righ, Edinburgh

"A parcel of rogues" is the expression that is brought to mind by the picture of the three members of the London-based political parties as they prepared to sit down and decide, effectively, to carve up Scotland, just as their London masters have instructed them (your report, 26 March).

What an impertinence. If they really had the future of our country at heart then the SNP should have been invited, even if they are considered to be the enemy. Remember, as Churchill said, "Jaw jaw not war war is the best option".

CHARLES BROWN, Greenend Road, Killearn, Stirlingshire

It's a bit rich for Annabel Goldie to attack the SNP's "left-wing agenda" (your report, 24 March). She had her chance to influence the SNP's agenda when they brought forward their Budget.

At no point did I hear Ms Goldie or any of her MSPs bemoaning the left-wing tendencies of the SNP as they flirted their way through the Budget process.

Perhaps that's understandable as "I hate your left-wing agenda" isn't the best chat up line.

The Tories had their chance to influence the SNP agenda and they blew it, spectacularly.

CARON LINDSAY, Buchanan Crescent, Livingston, West Lothian

I was astonished when I heard the Scottish Conservative leader's comments about the SNP's agenda for Scotland's public services. I am in no way supporting the SNP, but I do feel that the Tories are being more than a little two-faced about this.

They were the only opposition party to vote for the SNP Budget. Is it not a little late for them to turn around now and bemoan the "left wing" nats?

KAREN UTTING, Dalgety Road, Edinburgh





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  • Last Updated: 26 March 2008 8:26 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

CRAGman,

27/03/2008 01:28:59
The real question is which parts of Scotland might become independent. I guess that some parts would opt to remain within the UK. Like the referendum which established the Scottish Parliament we would surely see large differences in views across various regions of Scotland. Would Edinburgh and the south-east opt to stay in the UK while Glasgow would want to be independent, for instance? Inverness might also be an interesting situation.

The parallel with Kosovo and Macedonia is of some relevance here.

Finally, SNP claims on Berwick add further complexity to the whole question - I guess the referendum would have to be held there as well as within Scotland proper.
2

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 27/03/2008 08:05:07
#1,

Independence would be for Scotland as a whole, not regions. All of Scotland would vote for the country as a whole to be taken out of the union; I think that's been understood for some time. On your logic, if we voted to see if people wish to remain in the EU, some regions would be and others wouldn't. That's just plain daft. There is absolutely no parallel with Kosovo or Macedonia. It would be up to Westminster whether Berwick was allowed to take part in a referendum that would let it 'join' Scotland but I seriously doubt this would happen. Independence will be for Scotland 'as is'. If you're anticipating a blood bath you may be disappointed.
3

Gdgy,

27/03/2008 08:07:56
Right then - lets forget the national conversation (which Slamond is having with himself - as the rest of the SNPites do what he says) If you want independence lets have a referendum.....
4

StuartAD,

West Lothian 27/03/2008 08:58:29
Bring on the referendum, there are work forces in Rosyth & Glasgow awaiting decisions on new builds for the Royal Navy of the United Kingdom.
5

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 09:04:43
Re. the childish argument over Berwick-upon-Tweed?

Have the posters still not realised that the Nationalists had their loquacious tongues in their cheeks and everyone, including the media, rose to
the bait, and simply gave them another platform for their political views!

Instead, of the Nationalists so successfully manipulating the media its time the ineffectual Scots Unionists used their imaginations to grab the headlines.
6

Linda,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 09:34:54
Gdgy repeats his nonsence about the National Conversation which considers all the options including more powers. I suggest he reads it first.

Over 300,000 web hits for National Conversation.

Public not asked about Gordon Brown's unionist review / commission?
7

bill-alba,

fife 27/03/2008 16:51:48
Linda...Gdgy just repeats nonsence.
8

Steve,

27/03/2008 19:55:58
4, stuart, the Rosyth workforce has halved under Labour, and the dockyard is now full of Romanians on temporary contracts! Well done Gordon Brown!
9

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27/03/2008 20:58:02
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